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EPISODE 10: Christmas at the Andersons
What kind of birthday celebration pairs perfectly with a spooky Friday the 13th? Join us as we raise a toast to Jesse's birthday with a unique mix of mystery, merriment, and a little bit of mayhem. We're diving headfirst into the astonishing case of the Anderson family, offering our thoughts and inviting yours, while sipping on our chosen elixirs—White Claws for Lindsey and Honey Jack for Jesse, perfect for battling stubborn colds. The mood is festive as we're whipping up a traditional birthday lasagna and tackling the challenge of a new bourbon bible that promises to elevate our spirits (pun intended).
But that's not all—our conversation is peppered with tales of wardrobe wonders, from Grinch outfits to skull Santa shirts, and a debatable stash of mango White Claws that even Jesse can't seem to conquer. We sprinkle in some holiday cheer with a nod to "The Muppet Christmas Carol," all while balancing the everyday chaos of parenting a sick child. So, grab your drink of choice and settle in for an episode brimming with laughter, holiday spirit, and a celebration of life's quirkiest traditions along with the horror of a family member that took things way too far!
Hey Jesse, hello Lindsay and happy birthday almost.
Speaker 2:Thank you, yeah, it's Monday.
Speaker 1:Well, today is Friday, the 13th Friday, the 13th for us. We're recording on Friday the 13th and today. Our case on Jessica McCarty just came out. Let us know what you think about that.
Speaker 2:That was wild. What are you drinking? Hang on, wait, wait, you go first, you get to go first. Let us know what you think about that. That was wild. What are you drinking? Hang on, wait, wait, you go first, you get to go first. What?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:drinking. No, no, you go first.
Speaker 1:Well, I have polished off a watermelon and a tangerine white claw, and now I'm on peach.
Speaker 2:So you're just clawing up the world.
Speaker 1:Clawing it up, that's cool and cooking you a birthday lasagna my favorite it's tradition and she got me this bourbon book I just opened.
Speaker 2:Yes, I had him open his presents. It's got all the bourbons in it and this cool like.
Speaker 1:Grinch outfit. It's called the.
Speaker 2:Bourbon Bible. I'm going to wear, like this whole Grinch outfit you know, every day from now on until like.
Speaker 1:New Year's. It has a complete lowdown on the spirit of America 140 bourbons tried and tested and includes bourbon cocktail recipes.
Speaker 2:So also I consider that a challenge. I want to mark off the ones I've already had, but the rest of them it's a challenge If I can afford it.
Speaker 1:We're going to find them. We're going to find them. It's on, listen, if I can get you a bottle of Whistle Pig, or is it Pig, whistle or Whistle Pig?
Speaker 2:No, there's a pig whistle. That's way more expensive than whistle pig.
Speaker 1:No one I got you was very expensive, yeah there's one of them that's like $1,500 a bottle or something. Oh, I don't know if we can go that high on some alky $200, probably my max.
Speaker 2:Yeah, max, yeah, that'll be for special occasions I'm excited, and so I got me this Sil charm necklace thing With some skulls and you're wearing a skull Santa shirt. I am festived and you got your pink shirt on with your phenomenal, phenomenal phenomenal, phenomenal, pants on.
Speaker 1:They're very cool, they got some stockings and some mittens and some snowflakes. I like them and I got my buffalo plaid bedroom slippers on. I like them. I like looking at them and I got my Buffalo Plaid bedroom slippers on.
Speaker 2:I like them, I like looking at them.
Speaker 1:No makeup freshly washed. Hair, freshly shaved legs.
Speaker 2:I'm a smooth criminal, annie, are you okay? No, no, no, you're a smooth criminal. Yeah, and, by the way, I am drinking a White Claw also, because all the ones you don't like that's what I drink.
Speaker 1:Jesse gets the mangoes. I don't like the mangoes, so he has a whole shelf of mango.
Speaker 2:I got to tighten up. I guess I don't know, I don't drink enough. No, there is a shitload of mangoes. Anybody wants a mango white claw, come over. Holla at your boy.
Speaker 1:Holla at your boy. But actually I did discover that the peach one you know, when I fill up my big cup.
Speaker 2:You like that, it's good together.
Speaker 1:Mango and peach together are amazing.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite. Celsius, as we would say from one of our favorite movies lower the surplus population.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I love that movie.
Speaker 1:Yes, the Muppet Christmas Carol, that's our jam and I'm drinking.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm drinking.
Speaker 1:Hello, Mr Humbug.
Speaker 2:I'm drinking Honey, jack.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah because, We've been sick. I've been sick all week.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take a sip on that one. Our child is now sick. Let's talk a little bit. He woke up, flushed, he was.
Speaker 1:And eyes were all swollen from snot. He looked at me like this. This is not a visual outlet here. Anyway, he was flushed with fever and swollen from snot.
Speaker 2:This morning, poor fella and you were, you were sickly. You're finally coming over it too, and I shook most of it, but I'm kind of feeling it.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just sympathy and I heard it in my voice. I don't feel my head when I was listening. I might be a little.
Speaker 2:You're a little warm, you're not dangerous, though just a little pissy, not too bad. So I got four fingers of this Jack Honey to help me out.
Speaker 1:Four fingers.
Speaker 2:Cool story about Jack Honey. We went to a piano bar one time, oh God, and it was our first endeavor on Jack Honey, first endeavor, and our first visit to the piano bar in Gainesville. That is no longer there. That was very cool. Keys, was it keys? Nope, that's the new one. What was the old one called oh?
Speaker 1:shit, it was just on the top. Was it something with an R, wasn't it Not?
Speaker 2:Roy, no, I thought it was Keys, rockies, Rockies, rockies. Yes, it was very, very cool. The talent there is amazing.
Speaker 1:That was so much fun and I was so proud, because Gainesville is a college town.
Speaker 2:That's where the university of florida is. Florida gators that's jesse's team. I'm a knolls fan, so we were over there. We were on a date night.
Speaker 1:We had harry's seafood one of our favorite spots, harry's. The crab yes, the, not crab cake. The grit cake, fried grit cake oh, it's a drip, yeah I'll leave the honey on my beard honey for later. But yeah, we had had some Harry's for dinner and we ventured over to the piano bar where we were fit, we were sick and this was before COVID, this is before. It was unacceptable to go out in public when you didn't feel good.
Speaker 2:But I think we actually had COVID.
Speaker 1:It was this. No, it wasn't. No, it was a year before, that's right?
Speaker 2:No, the COVID that I had was at Universal. Anyhow, go on to the piano bar.
Speaker 1:But so we go to the piano bar. We had a blast. I was so proud of the college kids for picking amazing old school songs.
Speaker 2:They were like our DNA. Yeah, I was like 20 years younger. They had to have been at least 20 years younger.
Speaker 1:I was getting rum buckets and you were getting Jack and Honey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I stopped drinking about two hours before we left, where Jesse did not.
Speaker 2:No, I was like no, it's all you.
Speaker 1:He literally it was what half a mile walk back to our car.
Speaker 2:You had to help me, I had to somehow tote you back to the car.
Speaker 1:I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 2:You was driving Miss Daisy and Miss Daisy had some lovely ass spaghetti legs and I had water in the car and stopped at the store and got some nosh and a coffee and we trekked back home. I didn't come out for like a day and a half afterwards. It was nuts. It was great, great times. No, I didn't overdo it too bad, but I do remember you were no longer sick. Yeah, it beat it out, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:And honey knocked out your sickness. It was good.
Speaker 2:It was so good to me and Jessica McCartney, mccarty McCarty or who we talked about last week.
Speaker 1:That's who we talked about, and it was that was an adventure. That episode is actually out today, on Friday, yeah.
Speaker 2:So check that out and this one will be out next week. And a huge, and I don't know what the date is A huge one of these, real quick. A huge one of these. You ready, you ready for one of these here? Here it comes.
Speaker 1:You already gave me one of those.
Speaker 2:No it, it's for everybody that's listening. We just broke 250 downloads today. Oh my God, 250.
Speaker 1:We need to listen. I was, I'm texting one of my friends with one of my friends and she's going. Her birthday is also in December. December, we just need to change our Christmas account to December account.
Speaker 2:There's so much more. There's so much more than just.
Speaker 1:Christmas, Because we have Silas's birthday, your birthday, our grandbaby's birthday my second child's birthday Christmas Things we want to do, like TSO.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to do TSO next year, I want to go back to TSO, and there's just so much. It really is.
Speaker 1:One of my friends was just texting me that she is going to the Margaritaville Beach Hotel and it was only $150 for Ocean View this time of year. Yeah, it's perfect Right now. Yes, yeah, I would go. I would just sit in the room and get fucked up.
Speaker 2:No, I mean I would go walk on the beach. Yes, absolutely. I mean it's a little cool. Yeah, we'll wear clothes and walk on the beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and a meteor shower tonight too. We're going to check that out later on.
Speaker 1:I'm texting her back, but that is amazing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, definitely recap about the McCarty thing Mental health Mental health is important.
Speaker 1:That's 99% of most of the cases that we will cover. Yeah, Because even though, like I said, we do not sympathize with the actual crime, but the psychosis and the mental health that has been ignored she had prior problems.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she could have done better for her mental health and everybody, I mean her mother her ex-husband, even the boyfriend that she was with at the time.
Speaker 1:they knew something was wrong with her, but they turned a blind eye.
Speaker 2:And you've seen the picture that I posted of the police officer laying little things next to the spot, the marker there. That's just so sad, you know, and don't let it get that way. But sometimes you can't see it. You know like if there's somebody else that's going through it and they get depressed or they're at the point they just let it succumb them like completely.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's hard to see that in other people because they can play that, you know, honestly, another tragic story with your mom, your biological mother, you know she was into that kind of psychosis where she was just in closet, alcoholic probably didn't.
Speaker 1:She was a closet alcoholic. She would have one to two martinis with the family per night.
Speaker 2:Little did they know that she was drinking all day Hiding it, so there's a lot of things that people hide and and with my background, my father was an alcoholic as well, and that's why we partake.
Speaker 1:And that was after Vietnam. I mean he had, he had a lot of shit on his mind, yeah, PTSD from that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, partake, but do it responsibly. We always look back at that. I'm like I'm not ever going to get into where it takes away from anything you know. So mental health is a big thing, so that was the key thing for the last one pretty much Something to gather and have a sip and think.
Speaker 1:I mean because even the things she was doing, like going under false accounts to text that other woman and shit, that's mental too. I mean, okay, so I've been in a relationship before where I was cheated on a lot and it was crazy because the other women would harass me and even though I was the one that was the wife and the mother of the children, but I didn't do things like that to them and it was things that I shouldn't have forgave and let happen, but they harassed me. You know what I'm saying? It was, it was almost the same thing.
Speaker 2:It was probably because of the trash. He was talking behind your back.
Speaker 1:Well, no, because they felt like that they had ownership to him in some way, and I was the one that was in the way. Oh, yeah, I mean I have, I had one tell me that that was her house and I needed to get out and I had actually put the down payment on that home with my money, yeah. So I mean, yeah, it was just shit like that.
Speaker 1:So two wows yeah, there's a lot there's. Oh god, I went through some shit. Y'all don't even want to know, um, but yeah, I had one literally call my home and tell me that I needed to get out that was her house on my landline that was in my name.
Speaker 2:And I haven't been all that great in spots to myself, so I continue to apologize. You can never apologize enough when you're a shitty dude at times, you know. So I'm sorry Once again, publicly public. Put it all in public.
Speaker 1:All right, cue the intro Right now.
Speaker 2:You want me to play it like right?
Speaker 1:now Happy Friday the 13th.
Speaker 2:Oh, happy Friday. Happy Friday, which would be after Friday the 13th.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this will actually be next Friday, which I don't even know what that date is.
Speaker 2:But we're getting off into it, here we go.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey. You have dug up another one again, and this one's got a Christmas theme to it. It has something.
Speaker 1:Christmassy. Our next two this one and then the one we'll be releasing. So this one will come out on the 20th and then we're going to make it to where we do the next one on Christmas day yeah, so welcome drink about something.
Speaker 2:Here we are, here, we are, here we are. I'm excited and, hey, I got this really cool ass band that I want to play later on from Curtain Call Records.
Speaker 1:You gotta stop saying I'm excited. I mean, I know you're excited for the story, but it's but you're excited for the band you're going to announce later on.
Speaker 2:Well, actually I'm excited for the story because I know nothing about it, Right? So it's bad. It's bad and I'm not excited like in a happy way. I'm excited to hear the fucked up, crazy ass story that you're going to tell.
Speaker 1:I know what you mean.
Speaker 2:Exactly. So no, honestly, the people that listen to this, I swear they get excited too.
Speaker 1:I do too so you are excited, I follow several different podcasters on Spotify, and when I get an alert that they have a new episode out, I'm plugging in, see, so I am excited.
Speaker 2:I'm going to continue to say that. And we'll take another sip of my nice honey jack.
Speaker 1:Honey and jack, all right.
Speaker 2:Are you ready? I'm going to let you fly All right, I'm going to let you fly.
Speaker 1:I'm going to let you fly, all right. So this story takes place in the small farming town of Carnation, washington, which is a little over 30 minute drive from Seattle. This is a small community where everyone knows each other and most people have many acre farms, and this is actually one of the biggest agriculture producers in the northwest region. Most families in this area have known each other for many generations. Crime was almost non-existent in this area. It was just. You know, it's a nice little community. Wayne scott anderson and judy anderson owned around 10 acres in the Carnation area, the Andersons, and it's in, I think, monroe County. It's not really considered a town, but it is a town. It's, I don't know, it's one of those weird it's a town but it's not a town type thing. Okay, so Wayne was an engineer for Boeing and he was 60. And his wife, judy, was 61, who was a poster worker and she had been with the post office for a long time.
Speaker 2:Is this one of those going postal things?
Speaker 1:No, oh, it would actually be better if it was. I was hoping.
Speaker 2:I was like we're going postal.
Speaker 1:We're going postal finally. We're going postal finally. So they had been married for 31 years and had three children, mary Scott and Michelle, whom were all grown at this time.
Speaker 2:Okay, please don't put them in it Go.
Speaker 1:Just let me tell the story.
Speaker 2:The children of three. Please let them be.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure how old Mary was, but Scott was 32 and Michelle was 29 at this time, so they grown. Scott was married to a woman named Erica, who was also 32, and they had two kids Olivia, who was five, and Nathan, who was three. Michelle lived with her boyfriend, Joe McEnroe I don't know if it's McEnroe or McEnroe.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's going to be McEnroe for sure, because you gotta say McEnroe, I don't know if it's McEnroe or McEnroe, oh, it's going to be McEnroe for sure, cause you gotta Johnny McEnroe, mcenroe. They lived in a trailer on the family property. The Andersons planned a family get together on Christmas Eve of 2007 at Wayne and Judy's house. Everything was decorated festively. Judy had a roast beast. Everything was decorated festively. Judy had a roast beast. I can't even say roast beef anymore since my entire life because of the Grinch it's roast beast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when his heart grew bigger, he got to cut it.
Speaker 1:She had a roast beast going and was wrapping gifts in anticipation of the kids and grandkids. And Wayne was watching some TV. Typical dude, you know. He's watching TV, while she's watching, while she's wrapping all the presents.
Speaker 2:But you my darling love Next Saturday.
Speaker 1:Yes, you love to wrap the presents with me. I do all the wrapping and you hold the tape down. Well, it's like rap about something and we drink yes, we drink and rap about something. And we drink yes, we drink and rap about something and we play rap music. Oh yeah, we'll have everybody's kicked out of the garage and we are in there rapping away Goofing with the speaker on Bluetoothing. So Michelle and Joe were the first to arrive. Are you ready? It's about to get heavy. This fast, this fast.
Speaker 2:Hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm not ready, I'm claw, I'm claw. Cheers on the claw, cheers on the claw. Holy shit, hold on, here we go. Poo-poo with a dashie, poo-poo with a dashie.
Speaker 1:So Michelle and Joe were the first to arrive, but instead of Merry Christmas hugs and kisses and presents to exchange, they were armed with guns. What? Joe distracted Judy as Michelle aimed the gun at her dad and fired, but it jammed. But a second later Joe aimed his gun and shot Wayne and then Judy, and then quickly cleaned the room up and moved Wayne and Judy's bodies to the shed out back. What?
Speaker 3:the fuck.
Speaker 2:Simply having a murderous Christmas time. What the fuck Hatfields and McCoys on?
Speaker 1:Christmas. Yeah, so they went back inside to wait for Scott and Erica to arrive. About an hour later, scott and his family got there, took off their shoes and made themselves comfortable on the couch.
Speaker 2:So they just moved the bodies out.
Speaker 1:They moved the bodies out. Smoke's still in the air. Roast beef is still in the oven. The beast is still cooking. Christmas music's still playing in the background.
Speaker 2:I really don't know if it was or not. And more siblings show up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they sat and talked with Michelle and Joe for a while. Some sources say it was like two hours. What?
Speaker 2:the hell kind of story you got me into here.
Speaker 1:And then Scott was like okay, where's mom and dad? Then Michelle opened fire on her brother, shooting him four times.
Speaker 2:What? This is some end time shit, isn't it.
Speaker 1:No, just let me tell the story, sir, Okay okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, but I'm not.
Speaker 1:Erica runs to the landline phone to call 911 after being shot herself. The 911 call was cut short by Joe, who grabbed the phone and hung it up, but the dispatcher heard some loud noises. By Joe, who grabbed the phone and hung it up, but the dispatcher heard some loud noises and Erica saying not the kids.
Speaker 2:No, Lindsay, you're not fixing to Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Michelle had shot Erica twice but then ran out of bullets. She tells Joe that he has to be the one to shoot the kids who are screaming and clinging to their mother and Joe shoots both kids, lindsay and. With a total of 14 bullets, joe and Michelle had killed six members of the family.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh my.
Speaker 1:God. The older sister, Mary, wasn't able to make the gathering due to being sick.
Speaker 2:Luckily.
Speaker 1:Yes. So then Erica and Joe take off, as saying they were going to get married in Vegas was going to be their alibi for all of this. Don't worry, I'm going to explain everything. We're right at the beginning.
Speaker 2:I'm still like in, I know I'm shocked. I mean they wh right at the beginning. I'm still like in, I know I'm shocked. I mean they whacked the whole family, the whole family.
Speaker 1:Now, 911 does send officers to the area, but the gate was locked and it was about a quarter mile walk up to the actual home from the gate so they just they left, trumping it up to an accidental call. Wow, or I don't know. Some sources say that, like the 911 call that I heard to me I would find alarming. But I know this case. I've known this case for a few years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they heard other shit going on in the background, not the kids, right?
Speaker 1:Their excuse was it sounded like a party was going on. I don't know, but when I hear kids I'm running. I don't know. I have listened to so many cases covered and there are so many 911 calls that just could have went differently.
Speaker 2:Is this some bullshit insurance scheme or something? No, no, no, let me get there.
Speaker 3:What the?
Speaker 1:hell causes you to do this.
Speaker 2:I promise you.
Speaker 1:I'm going to explain everything. Okay, I mean, I'm just okay so on December 26th that year was a regular work day at the post office, but of course Judy didn't show up, no show yeah. And this was very unlike her, I mean, and they actually were supposed to show up early the day after Christmas. Yeah, you had a lot of extra shit to do yeah, so her best friend slash co-worker Linda Thiele I think that's how you pronounce it was suspicious immediately.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's probably been like a workhorse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they probably worked in the post because that's a long term job, that's not a high turnover job.
Speaker 2:You know what I want to do after Christmas? I want to do Packing Day one time.
Speaker 1:Boxing Day.
Speaker 2:Boxing Day.
Speaker 1:This is when all this was discovered. Oh, and a couple of I have newfound Canadian podcasters that I started following Right, they celebrate this day.
Speaker 2:And Hello Canada, yes, hello Canada, yes, hello Canada. I think we have a couple of listeners there, yeah, so the two that I have, discovered are one is Wicked and Grim, uh-huh and Buried Motives, buried Motives I highly suggest both of them Check them out. Yeah, and you get to hear them say sorry and a boot. Sorry and a boot, sorry and a boot. Whatever we got going on a boot, that's really cool and Buried Motives.
Speaker 1:Their little catchphrase is dirt big, I want more Canadian listeners.
Speaker 2:I love these so cool. You know what? We're almost as big in California as we are in Florida. You know that?
Speaker 1:Our next one is going to take place in California.
Speaker 2:California. I love it. I love it. Okay, so Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Linda couldn't get Judy on the phone so she left immediately To go and check on her right away. She also saw that the gate was locked. But she made that quarter mile walk up to the house. Didn't get an answer at the door, but it was unlocked so she went in. That's the best friend you need right there. That's the bestie.
Speaker 2:You gotta have one, that's the bestie. You gotta have one at least.
Speaker 1:So she saw Scott laying on the ground and thought that he had been succumbed to like a carbon monoxide poisoning situation, and but then there's carnage in there.
Speaker 1:There's gotta be carnage still in there, like just so then she just then discovers that he has been shot. Then she sees Erica and the kids and she's fucking frantic. At this point she actually thought that Erica may have been Judy those babies. So she found a phone in the master bedroom and called 911. She was terrified at this point, and not only that there were bodies everywhere, but that the killer may still be in there. So she was on the phone with 911 for about 30 minutes and she did say that Michelle lived on the property and had been upset with Wayne and Judy over money, because best friends know the tea. Okay, my girls, they know all the fucking tea in the family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So your besties for sure, girls, they know all the fucking tea in the family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Your besties for sure my besties know the deep, dark thoughts that I don't feel comfortable sharing with anybody.
Speaker 2:See me, I hold it all in, but my best friend's a female and she probably would like for me to be like that.
Speaker 1:She gets mad. When I bring her, she's like why didn't you fucking tell me?
Speaker 1:And I'm just like I don'm, just like she's your bussy, she should. And, by the way, folks, I have no problem with this. I love this woman just as dear as he does, and just like you love my friends as much as I do, where, yes, everybody, we're all good. Linda was like you know what this may be, michelle, this may have been her doing and, uh, the police so she had suspicions already of that, because of what she's told her, because obviously Judy's already told her some problems which I'm going to get to here in a minute.
Speaker 2:My daughter's coming over, but she's wanting all this yeah.
Speaker 1:So the police came and eventually found the bodies of Wayne and Judy as well, and at three hours after investigation was in progress. Cops are everywhere. You know they're at the property getting all the shit done. Michelle and Joe just show up and they act like they were just now seeing what's happening, like we're back from Vegas. But they never asked what's happening. They never asked the police one time what's going on. They came in and was like oh wow, but they never said what happened.
Speaker 2:They were just like oh wow, oh wow.
Speaker 1:So the police knew. I mean, of course, because her best friend came investigated and already knew all the family tea and had already spilled it to the police.
Speaker 2:They knew I mean I have no thoughts of murder, but I wouldn't come back, scripted, you know, and be like oh wow, oh, look here, oh wow.
Speaker 1:So the police knew that they lived on the property and asked if they knew anything and they said well, we were going to Vegas to get married but got lost on the way and actually they had went north.
Speaker 3:So they never got to.
Speaker 1:Vegas. They're in Washington. That's north of California, so that's quite a fucking drive.
Speaker 2:If you go north, you're in Canada.
Speaker 1:Right. So obviously they're like we ain't got no passport. So they turn around and they start going to Vegas and they use that.
Speaker 2:They're going to try to use that as their alibi, that's some dumb and dumber shit, isn't it that John Denver is full of shit?
Speaker 1:man, and so they say they got lost along the way and decided to come home, and the last time they had seen their parents was on Christmas Eve to tell them of their wedding plans. So Michelle and Joe's original plan was to come back and pretend to find the bodies and call the police themselves, but they underestimated Linda being a badass.
Speaker 2:She got it Come on.
Speaker 1:So, and I guess they also didn't count on the fact that family members in most cases are the first to be investigated. Anytime if a wife gets murdered, the husband gets investigated.
Speaker 2:You better have a badass alibi.
Speaker 1:The husband gets murdered, the wife gets investigated. That is usually 99% of the time. Family members and people that are close to you.
Speaker 2:You keep telling me this yeah, are the first, okay, so it's like this is a common denominator. No matter what, we're going to go there.
Speaker 1:So when the police asked Michelle, why do you think we're here? Michelle immediately broke down and said it's not Joe's fault, it's all mine. As soon as I shot the gun, I felt so bad. What the hell have I done?
Speaker 2:I'm a monster. Yeah, she's spilling it right then Just couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't understand. This is two days later. You've annihilated your whole family, yeah.
Speaker 2:All but the sixes.
Speaker 1:Now you're saying that you felt bad as soon as you shot the gun. Her gun jammed. She had an opportunity to be like never mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like God or somebody just said uh-uh. And then you were like no, let me put some more bullets in this and whack everybody.
Speaker 1:I mean, and what made Joe do most of the killing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean she whacked some people too. So it's like yeah, I mean she whacked, some people too.
Speaker 1:So it's like, yeah, I mean she shot her brother fucking four times Right and Erica so. And the police asked you know why? The kids girl why? And she answered by saying that she didn't want them scarred for life by the death of their parents and what had happened right in front of them. So in her mind it was a mercy kill, I mean a mercy kill, though so in her mind it was a mercy kill.
Speaker 2:I mean a mercy kill, though. Like how are you considering anything Mercy just to kill everybody down there, everybody in your whole family?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to get to her motive here shortly.
Speaker 2:It better be a damn good one, because I'm not understanding that there's no good there is no good motive for that one and any movie.
Speaker 1:I've ever seen in my life. The only murderer that I support is Dexter, motherfucking Morgan Dexter, and luckily that is a fictional show. That's my wake up call too, though. Yes, we are re-watching Dexter together, because Jesse has apparently watched some seasons with me that I don't remember and I'm calling it out because when we met, it was in the last two seasons yeah, I'm calling it out before it happens and you're like no way.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yes, way, I've watched this.
Speaker 1:Like it's so funny and he is so infatuated with the theme song. It is now his alarm clock and it fucking freaked me out the first morning.
Speaker 2:You did it. I looked over because I was like I'm so excited to play it.
Speaker 1:And Lindsay. It's 4.30 in the morning when his alarm goes off.
Speaker 2:And Lindsay's eyes, like I looked over, it went off and I looked to my left, because she sleeps on my left, and her eyes were like oh my.
Speaker 1:God, my left and her eyes were what? Oh my god, it scared the shit out of her. She thought she was dreaming and I love that shit, but it was. I was like am I dreaming about a dexter?
Speaker 2:episode.
Speaker 1:That was really good, though, because that's normally, because all of my alarms are all of our favorite artists at 15 minute increments.
Speaker 2:So in my head I'm at concert. She has 15 alarms, every 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:In my dreams, I'm at their concerts and I'm hearing the song.
Speaker 2:And you keep going to sleep when yours went off.
Speaker 1:I was like what is happening?
Speaker 2:It was good, I love doing that. I do a lot of stuff like that to her. I mean, it's just subtle.
Speaker 1:Thank God we moved on from that one alien one you had when we first got together.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Well, I had an old crappy phone. It didn't have much on it.
Speaker 1:You had what the iPhone 4? It had that old. Now we just set our alarms to. I set mine to my Spotify.
Speaker 2:I play bluegrass and punk rock.
Speaker 1:Well, I've got everything from Wage War. Ice Nine Kills Elton John, the Beatles.
Speaker 2:Zeal and Ardor. I love jazz music, so I play jazz music. Yeah, love it all.
Speaker 1:All right, go ahead, fly, fly, all right.
Speaker 2:Fly, little bird fly.
Speaker 1:So now Michelle and Joe had met online a few years before. Michelle was older than Joe and pretty much controlled him. Joe says he actually loved her family very much, calling Wayne and Judy mom and dad. Holy shit.
Speaker 2:She really has her shit together enough to where she can have another human being do her dirty work.
Speaker 1:So he was actually going to take the Anderson name when he got married. Instead of the traditional wife takes the husband's name Very Jack White of him. We just was talking about this the other day. So Jesse has for years even though I've told him that this is not true thought that Jack White and Meg White were brother and sister. I said no, they were married and Jack took her last name.
Speaker 2:I mean that's cute, but it would have been cuter if it was his sister.
Speaker 1:But Would you be?
Speaker 2:jamming with your sister.
Speaker 1:But you know what? Two of my favorite people on earth are Jack White and Jack Black. I think that is awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they have the little black and white thing going on.
Speaker 1:Now.
Speaker 2:I just need to find a Jack Yellow, a Jack Brown, a.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, a clockwork orange.
Speaker 2:Fuck it, I don't want to name myself Jack Daniels.
Speaker 1:Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2:I drink enough of it. I should have stock in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we love the white stripes in this house. I do love it. We both do. I miss Silas's obsession with them. I really do. I do too.
Speaker 2:I do too, and the whole peppermint thing that they were going to be called before that. Remember that when you talked about.
Speaker 1:They were going to be called the candy stripes. I think Peppermint stripes or candy stripes or oh fuck, I just read about this the other day. I thought it was just peppermint.
Speaker 2:And then it was like stripes, and then it became.
Speaker 3:Or maybe it was the candy canes or something we don't know.
Speaker 2:But they have the video with the peppermints and stuff.
Speaker 1:That's her drum set was the peppermint, that's her whole thing. Yeah, I love me some peppermints too. What is our child doing?
Speaker 2:Suspect on the other side of the house, our 11-year-old is trying to keep himself occupied in our room. With most of the Christmas presents, with all the Christmas presents and all the snacks. As we get quiet because he looks at us. Go watch TV the suspect has fake tattoos all over his body, as as any 11 year old that likes too much metal music. Okay, good night. Yeah, go on. Si, this is an 18 and up.
Speaker 1:Type show 21 and up. He's not feeling great either. He's still in his pajamas. Yeah, his baby Yoda, pajamas, his baby Yoda pajamas, his Grogu.
Speaker 2:He's excited Grogu and I'm not going to tell him, but I got him a cool guitar for Christmas.
Speaker 1:I'm going to finish with this story or not finish. I'm going to keep going, go, go, go. So Michelle was unemployed and Joe worked at Target, so they did not have a lot of income. Wayne and Judy had let them live on the property rent free for a year, but had told them that they were going to have to start paying rent in the in in the upcoming year, starting 2008.
Speaker 2:This is a lifestyle twist for money y'all gonna have to pay rent she couldn't control it and she needed more.
Speaker 1:Go ahead so michelle also claims that scott owed $40,000 and that she was quote tired of everybody stepping all over her unquote.
Speaker 1:So she was probably the black sheep of the family that was felt entitled to everything yeah, money was the whole motive and, just as Linda mentioned in the 911 call, so there is nothing really out there. If Scott did owe her this amount of money, but I don't know where she would ever gotten this amount of money to lend him, because she wasn't a very successful person and she was unemployed at the time. She was a really good artist, that's all I heard. So maybe she painted and, would you know, sell paints on commission, shit like that, but she didn't have a steady income Like from Beetlejuice. Those are my sculptures Delia, delia Dietz.
Speaker 2:You know what Delia?
Speaker 1:I would have all your sculptures in my house. I actually you know they're in our DNA, but that's actually Tim Burton and Tim Burton my goal is to have either an entire house or at least a room dedicated to your style of art. I love it very much. I love Tim Burton art so much. We love Tim Burton everything.
Speaker 2:Everything, everything, and he's done so much for everybody, everybody. You might not even know it, but look it up. Look up Tim Burton stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:It's insane. And the musicians that he's hired too God, mm-hmm. They did such a great job, danny. Elfman, he's the tux, he is, he is.
Speaker 1:There's a TikTok collab of all of his.
Speaker 2:I've seen it? Yes, that I shared to you. That's why I'm knowledgeable enough.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I've been following Danny Elfman for years, ever since I got obsessed with Nightmare Before Christmas and shit like that. Nightmare Before Christmas and shit like that.
Speaker 2:And they call him for every damn thing. Yes, because he's talented.
Speaker 1:He's the goat. He is the singing voice of Jack Skellington in A Nightmare Before Christmas. That too, which is what today is.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's A Nightmare Before Christmas. It is A.
Speaker 2:Nightmare Before Christmas. This whole thing is a nightmare.
Speaker 1:This episode will come out on the 20th, but the day that we're recording is Friday, the 13th. Yeah, because we have an eventful day planned tomorrow for Jesse's 43rd birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're usually a week ahead of everybody. Yeah. Which is you know, it's really good because it gives me time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's too much to try to do it on the same day. Okay, so she had actually been planning the murders for about two weeks. So this was not an impulse, you know, had too much to drink, whatever. No, no girl Girl had been planning, she was focused, yes. So after two hours of confessing, michelle and Joe were arrested and led police to where they had discarded the guns, which were a Smith Wesson Model 19. You're the gun guy no 19, a Model 19, .357 Magnum revolver .357 revolver.
Speaker 1:And a 9mm semi-automatic pistol in the hold on. Let me try and pronounce this Stillaguamish, stillaguamish River. There's a lot of native named rivers up there, and so it's.
Speaker 2:I'm really drawn to the natives. Still a Guamish river.
Speaker 1:Cool We'll say that Like it. So on December 28th 2007, michelle and Joe were charged with six counts of aggravated murder. In an interview in 2008, michelle said that she wanted the most severe punishment, which was the death penalty, because she did not deserve to live.
Speaker 2:She couldn't live with it. Yeah, she had broke down when she got there, it all came out when you're in the middle of it.
Speaker 1:Yes, it all comes out, so she wanted to waive her trial In October 2008,. King County Prosecutor Dan Strattonburg said that he would in fact seek the death penalty for Michelle and Joe, but he got pushback from Judge Jeffrey Ramsdell who ruled against it. The governor of Washington at the time, jay Inslee, said no one would be executed while he was in office.
Speaker 2:They didn't want them stats. Right. Oh man, she deserved a bullet right out of that gun. My opinion, I mean, it's harsh on me, but the kids man, the kids, the kids, I mean just imagine I don't want to.
Speaker 1:You're welcoming your family, your daughter and your son-in-law, who calls you fucking mom and dad your son-in-law. I ain't even going to go into our situation, but they walk in and you're expecting hugs and kisses and presents.
Speaker 2:Merry Christmas, Happiness and bliss, you get a gun to your fucking head Right off and then jams.
Speaker 1:And then the other motherfucker walks in and just shoots you. Yeah, how manipulative.
Speaker 2:I mean she had him on lock. That thing must have been good. I mean she had him on lock.
Speaker 1:That thing must have been good. So this trial went on for way too long for two people who confessed, and it cost the taxpayers millions of dollars. I forgot to look up exactly how much, but it was really expensive. This is literally an open and shut case.
Speaker 2:They needed a long drop and a sudden stop case. They needed a long drop and a sudden stop.
Speaker 1:So in September 5th of 2013, I have like three exclamation points behind that the state. So this happened in 2007, right 2007?
Speaker 2:or 2008.
Speaker 3:2007. Yes.
Speaker 1:This is now 2013. 13. Yes, the state of Washington Supreme Court. What are they going to find? What are they going to find?
Speaker 2:What are they going?
Speaker 3:to defend.
Speaker 1:So they overturned Judge Ramdale's ruling over the death penalty.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:They were tried separately and again the prosecution was seeking the death penalty, and then on January 20th 2015. So now we're two years.
Speaker 2:On, down, on down.
Speaker 1:Joe was tried and his defense tried to argue that he was mentally unstable and had been coerced and manipulated to carry out these murders by Michelle. Now I heard recordings of him on the stand and it was really fucking weird. You can tell he's heavily medicated and at one point he was laughing hysterically and then he actually broke down and started sobbing and rocking back and forth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, could you imagine hanging on to that for that long and just wishing it was just over with right?
Speaker 1:He was really soft-spoken like this, oh wow, and he had a very heavy speech impediment, Like it was really soft-spoken, like this oh wow, and he had a very heavy speech impediment, Like it was really heavy, but it was very. I almost thought that he had an accent like from another country because of how soft-spoken that he was. And he actually did address that. He's like I know that I sound weird and that my voice is terrible.
Speaker 2:He like he addresses that and everything. Yeah, he knew it, conscious. I don't think it's manipulation, though I think it's twat manipulation.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I just from the way that that man talked, I just felt like that he was very easily manipulated and overpowered.
Speaker 2:Okay yeah, Just the mannerisms and everything. I haven't seen anything about this.
Speaker 1:The only problem is okay, Michelle did not know how to load the guns, so Joe did do that for her and he did most of the shootings himself, making it very clear that the murders would most likely not have happened without him.
Speaker 2:It didn't look like a lot of the same thing happened with Gypsy too.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a whole different case. We're going to cover that later on, because you know how passionate I am about that and you are too.
Speaker 2:You are too, but it was similar to like she kind of talked him into doing all that. Right, so women be doing the work.
Speaker 1:But at the same time he wanted Gypsy to herself, and Dee Dee was never going to let that happen.
Speaker 2:Probably the same.
Speaker 1:Never.
Speaker 2:I mean he probably wanted her like to be happy and have everything she wanted. I mean just difference. I think this is a different, completely different.
Speaker 1:I get you, this is a woman that just she felt entitled to what her family had. She was pissed off that her parents were going to start charging her rent.
Speaker 2:She wanted it all.
Speaker 1:I really don't believe that Scott owed her $40,000 because he had a successful family with two kids. She didn't have nothing, she didn't have shit, and she lived in a because he had a successful family with two kids, she didn't have nothing, she didn't have shit, right, and she lived in a mobile home on her parents' property.
Speaker 2:I don't understand that, but I can't find anything on it, so I don't know. Yeah, just definitely entitled and everything.
Speaker 1:I definitely think that he was manipulated into this and was not a very strong person.
Speaker 1:Either way, he's definitely manipulated, the weak-minded can be made to do a lot of things that they normally wouldn't do without manipulation. So in Washington, for the jury to recommend the death penalty, all 12 members must be on board, and for Joe there were only eight. So on March 25th 2015,. Remember, this happened in 2007, and we're just now getting to the sentencing in 2015. The jury found him guilty duh of six counts of aggravated murder and in May he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
Speaker 2:And he was pleading guilty. They were both pleading guilty for that many years.
Speaker 1:But his defense, of course the defense attorney is always going to try to get them a better deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why would you want to be that attorney?
Speaker 1:At this point he probably just had public defender.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no money in it. You're going to lose.
Speaker 1:Because they obviously saw that there was something not right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're not defending anything.
Speaker 1:Like I said, if you hear, we'll find the recordings. I'll let you hear him later on. Okay, so in January of 2016, michelle's trial began. So that's what?
Speaker 2:Almost 10 years later, yeah, Fucking hell Almost 10 years later. Yeah, I'm not trying to math it, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need one more year to bring this in. Yeah, it's nine. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to math it, but yeah, yeah, we need one more year, nine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's nine. Yeah, okay. So it was said that her motives were out of pure greed, as she had mentioned money 35 times in her confessions. 35 times she did refer to herself as a monster and a bad person for her actions, but then would say that her mother, father and brother had abused her for years and she hated Erica and she hated that. Erica made her brother, scott, not really be a part of her life anymore, and some that covered this case also stated that Erica was in training at the post office with Judy, and Michelle was jealous of that so selfish. At the post office with Judy and Michelle was jealous of that so selfish. So, and if Scott was so abusive to you Michelle I'm talking to you why would you be mad at Erica for pushing him out of your life? Seriously? And this all had all of this just had the jury confused because it was like it was mixed signals. Yeah, okay. So was it about money or was it about abuse? You know what's going on here.
Speaker 2:Control greed selfish you know, all the good words.
Speaker 1:Right On March 4th 2016,. Michelle was also convicted. Fuck, I'm just thinking about how long that took. Sorry it just it just got like dawned on me like I typed all this up and I'm just thinking like so December would have been nine years.
Speaker 1:It would have been December yeah, march 4th 2016, michelle was also convicted of six counts of aggravated murder, and on April 21st, she was also sentenced to life in prison without parole. Now this is going to fucking hurt your heart a little bit. Michelle's older sister, mary the one that couldn't make it that fateful Christmas Eve because she was sick Right, she addressed Michelle by saying quote, quote it kills me. I loved you so much and just know that they loved you too.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine being that sibling the one that got away? Because it would have been her too. I mean right off the bat, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:She would have been right there with us.
Speaker 2:Did you say she had kids too?
Speaker 1:I'm really not sure. I didn't dive deep into Mary, but yes, I think that she did, but she was feeling ill, so the family wasn't going to go without her, just like you wouldn't if me and Silas were sick, luckily.
Speaker 1:So if you're feeling sick, don't go to the Christmas gathering and you know what, the next one I'm going to talk about something similar happens. Oh, I'm going to be quiet because I want, yeah, that one is a little worse than this one. So now I forgot to mention in the beginning which is what I meant to do when I was typing this up. But we're going to go back a little bit. So there was a tenant that lived in that mobile home on the Anderson property before Michelle moved in, that Wayne and Judy made move out so that her and Joe could stay there.
Speaker 2:Right, it's mine, everything's mine, everything is mine.
Speaker 1:I want to go they kind of inherited him as a tenant with the purchase of the property and he was paying them rent. He was paying faithfully every month.
Speaker 2:So how does she?
Speaker 1:think that her dad owes her money. No, it wasn't her dad. She said that her brother Scott. That was why she killed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, she said that her brother owed her $40,000.
Speaker 1:That's right, and you know I was kind of boggled because some people that I heard cover this said that's not a lot of money. That's a lot of money, yeah. I mean, you don't have anything If she doesn't have anything and see he supposedly owes her $40,000. That's a lot. Yeah, that's two or three years of rent. I mean with our mortgage what we pay about 15 grand a year. So that's at least two years of a mortgage. I mean that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1:It's not in the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't kill somebody over $40,000 for sure no no scheme of things, I wouldn't kill somebody over $40,000 for sure, but it's a lot of money to somebody that has nothing. The man who sold the Andersons the property his family said that he wasn't competent and actually protested against the selling of it. The man was actually deemed competent by the court and sold the Andersons the property and that's how they got the land. The old man's son, buck, who was the most angry. He refused to leave but he did pay them rent and he lived there for 10 years. He didn't like them, they didn't like him, but he was paying. He paid faithfully every month. They bought, like I said, they bought the property in 97 and lived there until they were murdered by their fucking daughter in 2006.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Pay no attention to the crotch of the old man, and he's still giving them money.
Speaker 1:They had the courts order this man to get out so Michelle could come in, and then she fucking kills them.
Speaker 2:So she's just spoilt too.
Speaker 1:What an ungrateful greedy ass bitch Spolt. And that concludes my story for today. Wow, merry Christmas, motherfuckers, merry Christmas.
Speaker 2:Merry Christmas. This is fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:This type of shit right here. It scares you, especially if you have any problems with your children whatsoever.
Speaker 2:But you can pick out that selfish person and want to squash them at Christmas. You can pick it out, you know what?
Speaker 1:No matter what we got fucking going on, we squash and want to squash them at Christmas.
Speaker 2:Some manipulation. You can pick it out. You're like you know what. No matter what we got fucking going on, we squash it, we squash it at Christmas and I don't even you know I can pull out some shit because I can be a dickhead at any second. I have that personality. I really do, and I don't apologize because some of it's rightfully so. 90, we'll give 90%, but we squash it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if anything happens, anybody shows up even if we've been, our grown kids still stay the night on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2:And they should.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love it, they cuddle up on the couch and we watch Christmas movies, we have charcuterie and hot chocolate and shit and I love it. We're goofbo With a big old pallet on the floor, me and Jesse, get up at 3 am and start the turkey and stuff the stockings we get to sneak out late at night, and that's really fun, yes.
Speaker 2:I'm so giddy about that.
Speaker 1:We never actually told our children that Santa doesn't exist. I forgot, we got one of those things, but I think they know. But we keep that magic alive. Yeah, they get to call them, we got.
Speaker 2:Santa's number. They got Santa on lock. Daddy knows Santa.
Speaker 1:I got his little. I got the face too, on my set under my phone.
Speaker 3:Like it's Santa's face.
Speaker 1:So when I call, Santa, his face is right there.
Speaker 2:And I'll be, like you want me to call.
Speaker 1:Santa.
Speaker 2:You want me to call him.
Speaker 4:No boy. You better be good.
Speaker 2:So that was. That was horrific, horrific, yeah. And then next week, who are you going to be talking about?
Speaker 1:The next one is the Covina Christmas Eve Massacre.
Speaker 2:So I have just enough time to slip in this cool song from Curtain Call Records. Who's the band? So this next band is called Death by Overkill.
Speaker 1:Death by Overkill. It's metal as fuck.
Speaker 4:It's metal, man, it's metal.
Speaker 2:Death by.
Speaker 1:Overkill. One of my favorite things about most of my podcasters actually not most of them. A third of them are actually metal enthusiasts also and Henry from last Podcast on the left anytime they say something metal he'll go beer-de-near-de-near and I always think that is so funny. Henry is the comic relief on Last Podcast on the left, that's really cool. And I love them so much because, no matter how fucked up the story is, he makes you laugh.
Speaker 2:All right, here we go. I'm going to play this song by death, by overkill, and then I'll tell you the name of it later, because I'm surprising Lindsay. Hey, lindsay, you did a great job, though, by the way. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I love you guys, love telling y'all stories.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I love telling you stories.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love it. From Curtain Call Records. This is Death by Overkill. And I just I'm excited, like I'm always. I keep saying excited. Maybe that's bothering you, because I'm like.
Speaker 1:I'm excited Okay, I get it. I get it. Excited at the suspense. Everything, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a journey.
Speaker 1:It's a journey.
Speaker 4:So, anyhow, Death by Overkill, Kill. Check this thing out. Here you come again talking all that nonsense, Lookin' for love fallin' out of your face. Wait till he speaks. I got such a headache and I can't wait for you to go away. That's real blah, blah, blah. Can't wait for you to go away. Ask me a problem.
Speaker 3:I suck at pretending to care. I'm small and sad. Get me the hell out of here. Who cares what you've got to say? The stairs lead into nowhere. I can't think about you today. You're just another empty head.
Speaker 4:Here you come again talking all that nonsense. Love is love, falling out of your face when I hear you speak, I got such a headache and I can't wait for you to go away. Ask me about love. I'll suck if it turns you care.
Speaker 3:I'll smile and say oh, get me the hell out of here. Who cares what? You've got to say? The stairs lead into nowhere. I can't think about you today. I've got to say the stairs lead into nowhere. I can't think about you today. You're just another empty head. Don't fall asleep. The day is feeling me and, as I don't know where, I'll sleep.
Speaker 4:Ask me about love.
Speaker 1:I'll suck at pretending to care no-transcript.
Speaker 3:I suck at pretending to care. I I can't think about you today. You're just another empty head who cares what you've got to say? The stairs lead to nowhere. I can't think about you today. You're just another empty head, empty head, empty head.
Speaker 2:I'll see it, I'll see it, I'll see it, lansi. What did you think about that?
Speaker 1:That was fucking fucking awesome. I was like mouthing to you. I'm like it's got a white stripes feel and we were just talking about it.
Speaker 2:Does muffin fluff?
Speaker 1:yes, muffin fluff, I love it, I really do they got a jack white style um musicianship in the back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, death by overkill really, really really, death by Overkill. Really, really, really cool Death by Overkill. Curtain Call Records. They're supporting sharing and labeling. I don't know what all they do there, but they got a lot of cool music on Curtain and you can check it out on anything and our Spotify Drink About Something. And what I loved is she was all like Muffy Fluff all over your face.
Speaker 1:It was so fucking cool, it was really awesome. And the name of that band was what again? So I can follow them.
Speaker 2:Death by Overkill.
Speaker 1:I'm following them right now. Yeah, follow them, like them, share them and share our podcast.
Speaker 2:So if you hear us and you hear this out of nowhere follow us too and drinkaboutsomethingsite.
Speaker 1:it's very easy to get to yes, you can follow us on instagram. Through there, send us a gmail yeah, everything is uh very easy, tell us about your um christmas debacles or if you know of any uh christmas cases, because we'll hold on to them yeah, yeah, we have a next Christmas coming up too, Sorry death by what? Tell me one more time 369 days, whatever. It's here before you fucking know it, I know it, it's like the older we get, it's like I still feel like yesterday was last Christmas.
Speaker 2:Period, though, follow Curtain Call.
Speaker 1:Records Last Christmas I gave you my heart. The next day I gave you my heart. It's a fantasy. Get that bitch away. Death by what?
Speaker 2:Death by Overkill, overkill. Yeah yeah, really cool. Follow Cart and Call Records Found them.
Speaker 1:Found them. Muffin Fluff is their number one.
Speaker 2:That's a number one song.
Speaker 1:I love their fucking artwork on there.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, the artwork on there was an if and I want.
Speaker 1:Oh, they got one. Come At Me, bro. I'm definitely going to listen to that later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe we'll play that one, if I get the mission hey Spotify wrapped.
Speaker 1:What was your number one band?
Speaker 2:I didn't look.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I'm pissed about?
Speaker 2:I've seen everybody else doing it. I didn't look.
Speaker 1:I looked, but do you didn't give me my podcast?
Speaker 2:You know what Sleep token? I did see it, sleep token.
Speaker 1:My number one was Wage War, because that's been my obsession this year. Y'all listen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have been on the Wage.
Speaker 1:War. Okay, so we've liked Wage War for how many years now?
Speaker 2:Since I showed them to you in 2016,.
Speaker 1:I think yeah, no, it was 2019.
Speaker 2:2019.
Speaker 1:That was a few years ago, 19. 19.
Speaker 2:It was before the pandemic, so I walked down this hill and I'm like, holy shit, wage war is fixing to go on, so I'm walking down the hill.
Speaker 1:I had never heard them. They're all sitting on top Because you're really selfish sometimes about your music. You don't share with me where I will share. I'm like listen to this fucking song. It's what I'm doing now, I know.
Speaker 2:I'm sharing the music now. No, I was, so actually I'm around a lot of Lindsay's not by any means, but I was at that time around some closed minded people about music. So I was like I'm a while down this hill, I'm just waddling down and and I heard. Yeah, and then the pit just opens up, slam.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I was like, and I heard when he heard, but you don't know, low like I do, and I was like motherfuckers, get up. We were hanging out by a tree, we were fucking drunk.
Speaker 2:I'm in the pit, like me and Kurt Rogers from Defy the Tyrant, we ran. I think Landon was down there with me. Yeah Right, so me and Landon.
Speaker 1:Brandon, my 19 year old Now. We started taking him to Rockville when he was 11. He was probably 13, 13.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's all right 13 or 14, opens up all the slam way across and it's probably 30 foot wide and it's like this big oval pit goes all the way across this stage, probably 150 foot long by 30 foot it opens up and then I see Kurt, kurt's short he's, he's like five, a little shorty.
Speaker 1:He's like I'm five three and we're like I love yeah, yeah. So really, we love Kurt, we love you.
Speaker 2:Kurt and um, they just offered me to play for defy the tyrant for Defy the Tyrant again.
Speaker 1:He's not stout, he's very, very fit. No, no.
Speaker 2:But he's short, not stout by any means.
Speaker 1:Stout means short and fat. Oh, it does. He's not at all.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:He's short and fit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is very fit.
Speaker 1:Yes, very fit he is muscular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I had him on my shoulders at one of the shows.
Speaker 1:One time, but yeah, kurt comes across.
Speaker 2:He's goofbooting and I'm like dude, we're going across this whole pit. I call him Curtis Curtis, so we grab hands and skip across the damn mosh pit, literally.
Speaker 1:Like they probably did, we did, we actually did. They are bros like that. We're pretty close yeah.
Speaker 2:We held hands and skipped across the mosh pit. And then we went all the way across, did a little toodaloo and came back.
Speaker 1:We all were right behind you. Literally as soon, as he said you don't know low like I do. And you found out, we came running you found out the low, but you know, when I really fell in love with them like I never and they've been on my rotation for years since then but when I really the deepness. When we saw them at Spook Halla last year, I walked you up to them and they played an acoustic set.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you fell all the way in love, oh God.
Speaker 1:Cody. Cody is my boyfriend, jesse is my husband, but Cody is my boyfriend and he doesn't know it. Cody Quistad, you are my boyfriend, just letting you know. Oh God, oh God. Or my boyfriend just letting you know I'm gone, I'm gone. And then we saw them at Louder Than Life, and then again at Rockville, and then we just saw them again in Orlando recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're catching up, we're catching up.
Speaker 1:I love you guys so much. Britton Bond, cody Quistad. I'm so sorry, I don't know the rest of the members of the band's name but Wage War. They're my number one this year and Ice Nine Kills is my number two.
Speaker 2:I don't remember any of the rest of them. I remember seeing Sleep Token on mine, because me and you had a few nights where we played Sleep Token and no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Sleep Token is on our love playlist we love Sleep Token.
Speaker 2:No Zill and Ardor, they were on mine.
Speaker 1:Aaron, our girl Aaron, would be so proud of you. They didn't make it to mine, I don't know why.
Speaker 2:That's because I was playing it off my phone while we were jamming.
Speaker 1:They weren't on my top five, so I had Wage War. I sang Kills and then Green Day because of our 11 year old, who is obsessed. Billy Joe, we're coming for you. We want you to recognize our boy. I'm going to start.
Speaker 2:He's got. He knows how to play several Green Day songs and I will be tagging you in all of them. He wants on stage with. Billy Joel Armstrong. So if you know them and him, share it to him, because Silas is coming.
Speaker 1:Yes, daddy even found him a book on their band and he is so excited. Yes, he can play y'all songs really good. And then I had the Beatles and Elton John, because those are some of my alarm clock sounds. But I love the Beatles and Elton John because those are some of my alarm clock sounds.
Speaker 2:I want to play some of the shitty Beatles. I like the shitty Beatles myself. I've never heard the shitty Beatles, but they're a real band.
Speaker 1:That's one of my wake up songs from the.
Speaker 4:Beatles and then Elton.
Speaker 1:John Yellow Brick Road. When are you going to come down?
Speaker 2:That's exactly what I hear.
Speaker 1:When are you going to come down? That's exactly what I hear. When are you going to land?
Speaker 2:On Sunday morning after the bender yes, after bending.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, when I have to wake up on Sunday and start waking up like I don't have to really wake up on Sunday until about 830. But I start my alarm still at their regular time 645.
Speaker 2:All 15 of them.
Speaker 1:There's more than that, every 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:It's like Groundhog Day, but it's a new song.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a different song. You get a new jam, yeah, but it's still.
Speaker 2:I wake up 15 times and then after she leaves I'm like go.
Speaker 1:But we love Elton John so much, we love the Beatles so much. We love the Beatles so much. We love so many bands, it's insane. We cannot. We have like a top 300. You ask us what our favorite band is and we can't tell you because we have a top 300. And then probably love over a thousand. We love music and, like I said, metal is our jam, but we love everything.
Speaker 2:We love Motown, swing, music, jazz, every genre and subgenre that you can think of, and I just shared the Flogging Molly thing for February, right.
Speaker 1:We're going to see motherfucking, flogging Molly, we're going to make it work. We're going to make it happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and if our boy's good enough, maybe he'll get flogged by Molly. Is that what he flogged by Molly, or just I don't know how that goes.
Speaker 1:Flogging is terrible, though. Have you seen a flogging? Yeah, we have. On Outlander, yeah, for sure, we need a. Outlander is out at eight o'clock tonight. Maybe that's what we'll be watching after dinner tonight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I want to see anything you can find on what we just talked about too. I'm going to let the jack flow, the jack honey, I'm going to let it flow.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to let it flow and I'm going to go get me another white claw, because the two in front of me are in fact going to see.
Speaker 2:I made like a four finger cut.
Speaker 1:We're going to have some lasagna, but I and then we're going to have a weekend of celebrating Jesse turning 43. Holy shit, he thought he was still 42. I said no, boo, you're going to be 43.
Speaker 2:They always told me my whole life 43 and a third. Yeah, 43 thirds and a third 43.999.
Speaker 1:That was a very snotty laugh, y'all. I'm so sick, I'm so sorry she did good, I thought she sounded good.
Speaker 2:She did good. I thought she sounded good.
Speaker 1:Thank you I think the audio is going to turn out good. The allergy medicine Dayquil didn't do it for me this go around. I've been fighting audio for the last three podcasts.
Speaker 3:And you sound good and snotty.
Speaker 1:Thank you, guys, you should always be snotty. Snotty by nature, yeah snotty by nature. Hip hop hooray.
Speaker 3:I knew you were coming.
Speaker 1:Hey hip hop Hooray. Thank you guys so much for listening. Keep loving, keep sharing.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we will see you guys next Friday right before Christmas.
Speaker 1:And no, we're going to, we're going to put this out on Christmas.
Speaker 2:We're going to put this out. This is we're going to. We're going to release this on.
Speaker 1:Wednesday, december 25th. The next one, not this one. This one will be on the 20th, yeah, and then we're going to post the next one on December 25th, that way, when you wake up and after you've opened all your presents, with your children or family members or doggos or whoever you've got in your house, yes, your aunts uncles.
Speaker 2:Grab your eggnog.
Speaker 1:Your own chosen family. Grab your eggnog, get your turkey started and plug us in and listen while your Christmas dinner cooks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can be like or microwaves.
Speaker 3:We don't judge.
Speaker 2:Or gets door dashed. I grab my drink about something and I Make up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I say a little prayer for you.
Speaker 2:We'll see you guys then Y'all have a good one. Yeah, I'll stay on that path for you. We'll see you guys then Y'all have a good one.
Speaker 3:Bye.
