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EPISODE 11: PSYCO SANTA
Picture this: we're sipping on some festive drinks, including a small batch Rebel Kentucky straight bourbon and a unique Bloody Mary mix with an unexpected twist of pickle juices, all while adorned in our coziest Christmas sweaters. We take a trip down memory lane, laughing about our past encounters with Fireball and Goldschlager, and sharing our peculiar wardrobe choices inspired by Bailey Sarian, like a skeleton Santa sweater. But amidst the chuckles, we find ourselves diving into a darker narrative, inviting you to join us in exploring how these lighter moments contrast with some unsettling tales.
As the season of joy unfolds, we can't ignore the shadows lurking in holiday history. Our conversation wanders into the chilling world of Dexter, connecting the show to the real-life unsolved murder of Linda Raulerson in our own town. We also delve into the tumultuous life of Bruce Pardo, whose story serves as a stark reminder of the complexities of human behavior. From financial irresponsibility and shattered relationships to tragic family events, Bruce's life is a cautionary tale of what happens when anger and selfishness collide with the festive backdrop of the holiday season.
On a more hopeful note, we celebrate resilience and the power of music. The remarkable story of Katrina, a gun violence survivor turned advocate, inspires us to acknowledge and address mental health issues. Meanwhile, the Ortega family's strength amid tragedy showcases the human spirit's perseverance. We wrap up with an upbeat look at Red Calling, a band with unforgettable performances and international flair. Plus, we're indulging in some amusing bourbon chatter, thumbing through the "bourbon Bible" for that one elusive favorite. Join us as we toast to the holiday season with fascinating stories, spirited discussions, and a promise of more exciting features in episodes to come.
Hey, Jesse.
Speaker 2:Happy Christmas, Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Happy Christmas. What you drinking today?
Speaker 2:I got me a bourbon and it's called Rebel and it's a small batch. Reserve Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey. Is it in?
Speaker 1:the Bible. I don't know the bourbon Bible Not.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I'm going to. I'm going to look King James, Not the King James Bible. This is the Bourbon Bible. Not, I don't know, but I'm going to. I'm going to look King James, not the King James Bible. This is my King James Bible. It's called the Bourbon Bible. I got it for my birthday and I'm going to look later on.
Speaker 1:Jack Morgan wrote no, not fucking Jack Morgan, jack.
Speaker 2:Jack.
Speaker 1:Jackie Onassis wrote that one that was my combination of jack daniels and captain morgan jack.
Speaker 2:Morgan jack daniels write this bible, bible of bourbon, I don't know, so I'm gonna look later on.
Speaker 1:While, while you're going along, and see if it's in there yeah, and I'm gonna let it because you've drank a lot of them that are in there I know, I know.
Speaker 2:I looked at it and I was like, damn, I'm pathetic. I've drank a shitload of bourbon in my life, is it? No, because you're like we're middle-aged oh yeah I guess, like if you were 25, yeah, maybe I'm still in high school and I drink all the fucking bourbon in this book knowing we wasn't drinking no sophisticated drinks back then.
Speaker 1:Gold.
Speaker 2:Schlager.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gold Schlager. Um, what was the other one? That tasted like that.
Speaker 2:Aftershock and Fireball.
Speaker 1:I didn't drink Fireball back then. I didn't even know what Fireball was until 10 years ago. Nah, so I'm going to check it out. My sister started bringing it around. That is her shit. Yeah, if a woman shows up with fireball, clutch your pearls. Every time she's got me to drink it, I have prayed to the porcelain gods.
Speaker 2:All of them, woo, all of them.
Speaker 1:Party all night long. Right, Should probably edit that out.
Speaker 2:Uh-uh, Not editing that one. We party like no. So what are you drinking? Tell me.
Speaker 1:Well, I had our delicious well okay, so we tried. You brought home a new bloody mary mix. We didn't really like it, so I made many ones with that one, just to see if we liked it, so added it with our zing zang regular and then the new zing zang that you brought home. That was blazing, it was hot blazing zing zang. You, would you love that the the spiciness plus our the plethora of our little pickle juices yes, and that's getting good too this is the first time you listen into our episode.
Speaker 1:We have this jar of collected um pickled juices, which ranges from pickles, jalapenos, banana peppers. What else is in there?
Speaker 2:pepperoncinis it's all. It's becoming okay. Like you know, you people make bread that they were using that 2 000 year old yeast. Our pickles sauce that we put in our bloody mary mix is going to be iconic. Like that. Be like, make sure you use the special pickle juice. Like what?
Speaker 1:was the doyle, the, the, the boil. I don't know why I said doil Boil from fucking Brisbane.
Speaker 2:Nine-Nine, that was old as shit. The boil family sourdough starter.
Speaker 1:Sourdough starter.
Speaker 2:It's going to be like that Our great grandparents are going to be like it's like this jar of this, not great grandparents, our great grandchildren are going to be grabbing it's our grandparents' phenomenal pickle juice. Yeah, the Genzy juice.
Speaker 1:From 2024. And it's like 2077.
Speaker 2:2077. And it's this crusty old bottle.
Speaker 1:You can only put a drop.
Speaker 2:Just one. It's potent. It makes it the Bloody Mary Potent seasoning.
Speaker 1:They've been adding juices with Penny, all the juices. Why did I go British? I always go British.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's in my roots. It makes it sound more sophisticated.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So we had the Bloody Mary and then I had a Tangerine White Claw, which is cold outside, so that outside fridge is extra cold, and they are nice and crispy. But now I'm on to a Blackberry.
Speaker 2:Bam-ba-lam, blackberry, bam-ba-lam-ba-lam, yeah, and I'm backing with a claw too, because I have to drink all these freaking ones you don't like. I'm back with the ones you don't like the rejected mangoes Rejection.
Speaker 1:But like I said, it is good mixed with a peach. I will drink it that way. Yeah, that's my last resort.
Speaker 2:And it's the holiday season.
Speaker 1:This is my last resort.
Speaker 2:A flippity-flop and blippity-blop and I'm going to drink all the shit that she put on the top shelf.
Speaker 1:And, like my tummy is so full of liquid, it's like sloshy.
Speaker 2:And I love your shower.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got a little Santa panda on here so fast. I've had this thing forever.
Speaker 2:I broke out a sweater. It was sweater weather, yeah, sweater weather, yes, and we had a fire in our little fireplace today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got that um sweater from the recommendation of bailey sarian queen bailey from uh, murder makeup and mystery mine. Yeah, I bought that. Well, it was her recommendation. I think it's wickedclothingcom oh, oh I love it. It was expensive Really. Yeah, to describe it for you guys, it is a skeleton in a Santa suit on a skeleton reindeer.
Speaker 2:That's very cool. It's very cool.
Speaker 1:I think it was Wicked Clothing. I got like two of them for you.
Speaker 2:One's Halloween and one's Christmas, if you're like. Nightmare Before Christmas and Tim Burton decided to blaze up Santa while he was on his way back from trying to save Christmas.
Speaker 1:It's like a mix of Tim Burton and whoever created. What's that? Fucking Ghost Rider Looks like Ghost Rider a little bit. Yeah, it's Ghost.
Speaker 2:Rider-ish. Yeah, love it, I love it. So I want to know what Lindsay's fixing to get off into here, because I don't know. Well, you want to cue the intro? No, I don't want to yet. No, I don't want to yet. I just wanted to know. Cue the intro and I'll tell you. So if I cue the intro, then I'll get to know. I'll let you know. I want to know. So here we go, guys. Happy Christmas Christmas.
Speaker 1:We're going to put this out on Christmas morning so you can listen while you're cooking your Christmas dinner. Yeah, or ordering from DoorDash or commuting to a family member's house yeah, yeah. Or ordering from DoorDash or commuting to a family member's house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let us know about your debacles and Merry Christmas, happy Holidays and all that good stuff. Here we go so. So, like I said, lindsey, I want to know what kind of Christmas debacle thing you have going on here.
Speaker 1:Well, first, I want to, I want to. We're rewatching Dexter. Yes, we have been, and our little town was mentioned in season seven, episode five, and this season actually features oh God, I had to pull up her name yvonne strahovski, I think that's how you say it which is our favorite woman that we love to hate.
Speaker 1:On the handmaid's tale also, oh, sabrina serena, serena, joy, yeah, serena but she's also in this season and it's one of my favorite seasons and I couldn't wait for it to come up so I can be like Jesse look Well, you know, when she popped up like we watch this really late, like she gets off of work and I'm half awake and she's like who's that?
Speaker 2:What did I say? I said I said something stupid.
Speaker 1:You said Laura Cleary.
Speaker 2:I was like is that me?
Speaker 1:Which kind of made sense when you first look at her. Since when you first look at her? Because when we see her in Handmaid's Tale, there's no makeup on because she's Serena Joy and they're in Gilead and she's like you slapped me.
Speaker 2:That's fucking Serena. I was like, oh, oh yeah, she does look good with makeup on. She's a whole different vibe too.
Speaker 1:She plays Hannah McKay, who went on a killing spree with her boyfriend at a young age. Who went on a killing spree with her boyfriend at a young age and she got immunity for telling the police about all her boyfriend's murders and she's out free. But there's a plot twist because she's still kind of a murderous bitch. But yeah, their killing spree started in Alabama and went on down to where they're at now, which is in Miami, and Lake City was mentioned.
Speaker 2:And they shot and killed somebody in. Lake City. So what I and?
Speaker 1:it was a gas station.
Speaker 2:Well, I think that was probably the idea to write that in, because in 2008, there was a woman that was murdered at a gas station. Her name was Linda Rollerson and, yeah, she was just working at a gas station and a guy showed up in the five points area lake city.
Speaker 1:That's where I went to school.
Speaker 2:You and I both went to school there yeah, we both went to school in five points area of lake city and, yeah, blasted her, got back on the road and dipped out.
Speaker 1:That was in 2008 in, uh, july and you said it was unsolved right unsolved yeah, that's I.
Speaker 2:I kind of noticed some of that because right before we started doing all of this podcast stuff.
Speaker 1:And she was a Rollerson.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of Rollersons and that's a big name here in our town, yeah, and I looked I was like I want to check out something that nobody's actually solved. But when you start looking into unsolved things, you get like three lines of stuff to unsolved things. You get like three lines of stuff, that's it.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot of stories that are unsolved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but most of the ones in our town.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, in our town, yeah.
Speaker 2:The good old boy town yeah because most of the shit in our town gets swept under that big old dusty rug Dude, there's a lot of knots under the rug here, yeah, but it was really cool because it triggered the whole. Like Lake City, holy shit, there was a chick that died right around that same time in a gas station. I guess he just showed up there and blasted her and dipped out, took some money, I guess, I don't know. Yeah, he doesn't really. He couldn't find shit. No, he left in a mid-.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you have to go deep into Google to find I have to go deep into Google for some of our cases. Around six foot tall you gotta look up, you gotta read all the newspaper articles from all over.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Gainesville Sun actually writes a lot of better articles for shit that happens in our town than our own newspaper does.
Speaker 2:Oh, here's the twist Linda was only like a few months away from retiring. Oh God, can you imagine working your whole life like and you just I'm fixing to retire? They just got like the. Anderson's right there at the gas station.
Speaker 1:The Anderson that we just talked about in last week's episode.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to retire early and I'm going to hide, yeah, I don't know, don't announce. Yeah, I won't tell anybody that we're retiring. We'll tell everybody we're retiring like two years from then and then just retire, yeah.
Speaker 1:We're retiring in 10 years and then be retired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going into hiding like tomorrow, but we're gonna tell everybody we're gonna retire in 10 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah I'm gonna go find a private island, but today we are going to california and we're going to be talking about bruce the douche.
Speaker 2:Bruce the douche.
Speaker 1:Yes, are you ready? I'm going to get started.
Speaker 2:What's the show where they talk about the douche? Oh, Parks and Rec, parks and Rec, the douche.
Speaker 1:Crazy Ira and the douche.
Speaker 2:The douche.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was their radio station there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't. I want to go listen to some more of that.
Speaker 1:There's so much cool content right there that we can just go over, and that would just be so amazing, absolutely. Bruce jeffrey pardo was born on march 23rd 1963 in la, la. La, the tacos are always better in la. That's from uhkenny. Watch it. Not sure what season or what episode, but it's a good one. Just look up LA, I love it. Letterkenny is so great Canadian comedy. Oh it's the best, it's a different.
Speaker 2:It's a different animal.
Speaker 1:Jared Kiso is an absolute genius. He plays Wayne on the show. He was the son of an engineer, and the apple didn't fall too far from the tree because Bruce showed early signs of being an amazing or being amazing with math, and became an engineer himself. He attended and graduated from the John H Francis Polytechnic High School in Sun Valley and then California State University, northridge. He was a big, loud goofball who liked to be the center of attention, the kind of dude who carried a blow-up doll across the stage as he graduated. He was your typical party guy in.
Speaker 2:California.
Speaker 1:So he went on to get a job at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada, I think Flint Tried, california. In La Canada, I think Flint Shride, california, la Canada, flint Shride, california. I think that's correct Now. Bruce had a brilliant mind, but his work ethic was shit, I mean, just a waste of fucking a good brain. He would use his brilliance to do shit like hack the work system to see what his coworkers were making.
Speaker 2:Oh, college was a joke.
Speaker 1:He was just way above that, right yeah so while working there he did have a relationship with a woman either named I've heard all three um delilah, delia or delia. Let's go with delilah. Oh, it's Christmas time and I want to hear all of your Christmas love problems. Give us a call at.
Speaker 2:Delilah, this is Jesse, and I got all kinds of problems here with all these kids coming over and hanging out.
Speaker 1:And I want to dedicate this song to him, called Simply Happy. Oh God, all right enough, we'll get sued, the Beatles they want all the money. Paul McCartney don't come for us. We love you, we just don't like that song. Okay, so they got engaged, Bruce and Delilah. We'll go with Delilah In 1988, and somehow he talked her into dipping into her own savings to pay for the wedding. What a beautiful wedding. What a beautiful wedding, says the bride's maid to the waiter.
Speaker 2:We were listening to that earlier. Yes, it was like shower time with panic. Yes, all right, shower time with panic. Yes, all right, go ahead go Okay.
Speaker 1:So he talked her into dipping into her savings to pay for the wedding at the San Fernando Mission, which I heard was really expensive. Like two other podcasters that I listened to, that are a couple. They were planning their wedding at the time. They recorded that episode at the same place and they only had 100 guests and they said it was outrageous and they were having 250. Oh, a big one, bruce and Delilah.
Speaker 2:Do they come from old money Like they had?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. I think she just worked hard and saved her money, which a lot of women do, because sometimes they're more responsible and sometimes men are more responsible to spend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In this situation. Bruce was not and she was.
Speaker 2:Oh, she had it Cool.
Speaker 1:Even though Bruce had a very high-paying job and lived at home with his mother, but Delilah had to pay Anyway. So they were going to have this wedding at the San Fernando Mission and a honeymoon in Tahiti. Like I said, the guest list was like 250 people, that's like a $30,000 adventure. At least yeah. So, like I said, bruce had a well-paying job. He still lived at home, but for some reason he talked her into paying for everything, and I don't know why Ladies don't do that. Make it at least 50-50.
Speaker 2:This bourbon is good, is it? Yeah, it's good, awesome.
Speaker 1:The wedding was set for June 15th 1989. Now I don't understand this. Why have June weddings in hot climates Like California and Florida?
Speaker 2:You know that's like wedding season, though it is. Everybody wants to sweat their ass off. It's hot as fuck.
Speaker 1:Now, if you're up in the northern states, or even Conadal, I can understand it, because it's probably beautiful weather, yeah, but down here and over there, you're dying. No, you're dying. No we had ours in March and that was nice. It was a nice day.
Speaker 2:So where geographically in California, you said? I mean, is that Southern California?
Speaker 1:I'm going to get there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, northern California it does get. I mean it's.
Speaker 1:Well, we're near, we're in West Covina.
Speaker 2:West Covina. Yeah, I have no idea it's near LA. Oh yeah, it's hot, it's near LA LA, yeah, it's hot, yeah.
Speaker 1:So or it's closer to LA than it is to Northern California.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're southern to central.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Delilah, delilah, it's.
Speaker 2:Delilah.
Speaker 1:There's not a lot about her, because she took herself out of this situation, and you'll see why later, but anyway, so we'll go with Delilah again. She was getting ready for her big day and Bruce the douche never shows up.
Speaker 2:The douche $30,000.
Speaker 1:endeavor and Delilah is stuck at the altar and nobody heard from him. Nobody heard from him for weeks.
Speaker 2:Cold ass feet.
Speaker 1:And he withdrew the remaining $3,000 from her savings her savings and partied it up in Palm Springs. Could you fucking imagine?
Speaker 2:So he came to Florida and partied up.
Speaker 1:Palm Springs is in California.
Speaker 2:Oh, palm Springs, California, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:We've got Palm Bay here.
Speaker 2:That's right, we did one on Palm Bay.
Speaker 1:We've got West Palm.
Speaker 2:Is there a Palm Springs in Florida? I don't know. Oh yeah, Told you.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is in Palm Springs, california, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Okay, but that would have been cool.
Speaker 1:Now you got me second guessing my research here.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, we're sticking to, taken to California $33,000. He is jacked and he took all her money.
Speaker 1:That's just my, all her money, my perception Of course the relationship ended and um Bruce would go on to live the batch life and was very immature for many, many years.
Speaker 2:So uh later on the douche.
Speaker 1:Later on, in 2001, he was around 39 at this point and he meets Elena, luciano, and they start a relationship, move in together and have a child named Bruce Matthews. I've heard just Matthew and then I've heard Bruce Matthews, but we'll just go with Matthew because that was most of the research I did. It just said Matthew. On New Year's, I think in 2002, matthew was 13 months old and Bruce was supposed to be watching him while Elena went out for a while I think she was like grocery shopping. So while Brucey was watching TV, matthew wandered off to the pool, fell in and drowned. What? Elena comes home to find Bruce screaming and crying and trying to resuscitate the baby. The ambulance arrives and the boy does survive and Bruce does sit by his side day after day in the hospital as he should. But little Matthew suffered from severe brain damage which left him paraplegic, and this is the time that Bruce checks the fuck out. Done Wash his hands of Elena and Matthew. Douche is out.
Speaker 2:Douche is right out, douche is wild. Elena and.
Speaker 1:Matthew. Douche is out. Douche is right out. Douche is wild. So Elena does sue Bruce for medical bills and ultimately gets awarded $100,000, which was set up as a trust for Matthew. Now, this was through his own homeowner's insurance. I mean, yeah, that still comes out of your pocket, but it was. You know, it's different, Like your rates go up, but it didn't come directly out of his pocket.
Speaker 2:Right, they want the money back somewhat yeah.
Speaker 1:Now, when Bruce was around 41 in 2004, he was still single after he abandoned his family and a co-worker offered to introduce him to his wife's sister, sylvia Orza, who was a divorcee with three kids. Her first husband had actually been killed in a car accident and she had two kids with him, and then the second husband whom she was divorced from, she shared a daughter with. The older. Two were grown at this point, and so the only one that lived with her was her little four-year-old Okay.
Speaker 1:The douche came in the douche came in. So Sylvia was down-to to earth, independent and had a really large, tight-knit family, the Ortegas. Sylvia and Bruce went on a date and hit it off and just two years later, in January of 2006, they were married.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we go again yeah.
Speaker 1:They bought a beautiful home in the neighborhood of Montrose. Like I said, sylvia had two grown kids, so the four-year-old was the only one that moved in with him, and then they adopted a dog named Socky.
Speaker 2:I hope they didn't have a pool.
Speaker 1:Well, for a while everything was great. They made friends in the area, they attended the local Catholic church where Bruce was an usher, and Bruce really felt like he was part of the big Ortega family. But after the honeymoon phase wore off, some things started coming to light.
Speaker 2:Ortega.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:It's so familiar to me.
Speaker 1:It's the taco company.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's what they owned, but Ortega.
Speaker 2:Tacos, was it Jenna Ortega too.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Jenna Ortega, that's our girl from Wednesday from the new Beetlejuice, yeah. Silas is obsessed with her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just hoping that this doesn't tie into that, right.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no. So they were fighting about money, mostly because Bruce refused to open a joint account with Sylvia for whatever reason. Sylvia had grown close to Nancy, bruce's mom, and it was revealed that Bruce had a child that he didn't have anything to do with. Oh the dirt. Yeah, Sylvia knew nothing about little Matthew.
Speaker 2:Or the ex-wife, the douche dirt.
Speaker 1:And that he had let the child drown. And now that child was disabled. Oh, she got all of that.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So this conversation happened in late 2007. So it had been about six years since Bruce had seen his child, and it also came to light that Bruce was still claiming his abandoned child for tax benefits.
Speaker 2:That's why she didn't get to see the account. Do she? Hello, do she?
Speaker 1:Where are you at? So Sylvia was obviously flabbergasted and realized she really didn't know Bruce at all.
Speaker 2:No, that's a lot of dirt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean good on his mother for being honest. Be like, yeah, that's my son.
Speaker 2:But he is in fact a douche. She spilled the beans and that's good Like yeah, douche has got some dirt up in it.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I had to take a sip to lubricate the vocals. Lub to lubricate the vocals Lubricational. Yes. So in March of 2008, the couple would separate, but Sylvia kindly asked if Bruce would allow her and her daughter to stay there until her daughter's kindergarten year was complete. Now, bruce agreed, but then one day, while they were at a birthday party, bruce threw all her and her daughter's shit out into the driveway.
Speaker 2:Douche gun showed out, showing his true ass colors. Threw the shit out.
Speaker 1:So he threw everything out and obviously kicking them out. So Sylvia filed for divorce and moved in with her sister.
Speaker 2:Run, girl run.
Speaker 1:Now, one month later, Bruce actually tried to reconcile but Sylvia was having none of it Good job girl Kind of and Bruce had really shown who he was and she didn't like it. She was done around. The same time, bruce up and quit his job at the jet propulsion laboratory and starts a new job at ITT radar system, still making absolute bank.
Speaker 2:So he was just his shit, don't stink, he can not untouchable yeah, like a lot, of a lot of research I he was just his shit, don't stink, he can be untouchable yeah.
Speaker 1:Like a lot of research that said he had the nicest shit a few cars, a boat, nice home. Completely smart, intelligent, just got all of his shit together but he has nothing to give, but he only cares about himself.
Speaker 2:That's it. See, I don't have that. People that have that and you're looking back like this dude is just completely amazing. But there's a lot of dirt on a lot of folks that you look up to and you're just like they have it all together. They got all this.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've been crushed by so many people that I thought were great Finding out who they really were over the years.
Speaker 2:Bam God, dirt, yes, douche dirt everywhere.
Speaker 1:So his average income was around $122,000 a year, and Sylvia's was only about $30,000.
Speaker 2:For the 80s, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:This was 2000s. The 80s is when we started our story when he married Delia. Sorry, I'm looking, delilah.
Speaker 2:I was looking at my Bible.
Speaker 1:At first he wanted Sylvia to pay him spousal support what the fuck. But of course that was denied and he was ordered to pay her 1700 a month. He made triple, more than triple, almost quadruple, what she made all right.
Speaker 2:so his cockiness and intelligence and everything is the epitome of the privilege that we don't understand, especially being a Caucasian too, I'm sure like he was just like basking in the doucheness of doucheville.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, um, now with a name like um Pardo. He might not have been completely Caucasian I didn't see what his nationality was but obviously his, his wife's family was Hispanic. Like I said, he wanted Sylvia to pay, but he was ordered to pay her 1700 a month in child support Starting in June of 2008,. The first check he sent it bounced, and then the second he just put a stop payment on it and then never sent anymore.
Speaker 2:Doucheville.
Speaker 1:And also in June of that same year he started a gun collection.
Speaker 2:Doucheville is going psycho, go ahead Sorry.
Speaker 1:So he started buying one a month until November, because in California that's the process, that's the law you can only get one a month. Now Google says four of them were nine millimeter. Sig Sauer Am I saying that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sig Sauer. Sig S saying that right, sig Sauer.
Speaker 1:Sig Sauer semi-automatic handguns In September 2008,. He ordered a custom Santa Claus outfit with extra room in pocket. Lindsay From Jerry's Costumes. Lindsay.
Speaker 2:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:In October.
Speaker 2:Don't laugh, I am reframing from saying this Reframing.
Speaker 1:Reframing, reframing, I am.
Speaker 2:I'm holding back the overflow of doucheville right now because I know I did not say I was going to say this, but I'm excited, no, okay.
Speaker 1:So in October he goes to visit a friend in Iowa that he had known since high school. While he's there he purchases 16 handgun magazines.
Speaker 2:What the actual fuck.
Speaker 1:That had 18 bullets each 16 times 18. That's a lot of bullets, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're getting strapped. The douche is strapped.
Speaker 1:On December 18th 2008.
Speaker 2:Well, it's 18 bullets Times, 18 guns Times, 18 six hours.
Speaker 1:Sylvia and Bruce go to divorce court for the dissolution of their marriage and everything was finalized. He was awarded the house and she got the dog Saki, but he was ordered to pay her a lump sum of $10,000. How does he get the fucking house? How does he? He made more money. I guess Maybe the mortgage on it was too much for her income to afford. You know they go into all that they itemize and all that shit. Why the?
Speaker 2:fuck does the douche get all the good shit? That's usually what comes out. That's nasty.
Speaker 1:I mean, like I said, most probably. I mean there was no joint anything, so probably everything was in his name and douche world. At $30,000 a year versus $122,000 a year, he could probably afford this home. It was a very nice, lavish home.
Speaker 2:If I was a judge, I'd have made him sell all that shit. That's what I would. If I was a judge.
Speaker 1:I'd have been like sell it, liquidate it, split it, yeah especially I mean any common ass judge would be like well, this guy doesn't even take care of the courtroom.
Speaker 2:She should have been.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I mean she was very close with the Ortegas. They considered her a part of their family as well. Like these were wonderful people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and who wants to support Richard Bruce Douche Perennial.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:Richard, I'm trying to put all the oh Dickhead.
Speaker 1:Dickhead.
Speaker 2:Dickhead, bruce Douche, caranium. Why, richard, I'm trying to put all the oh Dickhead, dickhead, dickhead, Bruce Douche. Yeah, all them, yeah, who wants to support that? He just, I mean, left his kid, doesn't even care about the, he neglected his kid.
Speaker 1:Complete like it was his fault.
Speaker 2:Paralysis. It was his motherfucking fault and his kid's still alive and he don't have nothing to do with it, but he was like oh, I don't want to deal with this.
Speaker 1:Ugh, let me get out right now.
Speaker 2:Dude. I'd have been like that's my buddy dude. I'm going to do everything I can with this kid.
Speaker 1:That's what a normal unselfish father would do.
Speaker 2:It would have made so shitty. How does that not eat you? Up for the rest of your life. People can drown, like children can drown. Within a couple of minutes, you just turn your back.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, we learned that from all those little people that would come to talk to you in class. You can drown in a tablespoon of water.
Speaker 2:Right, insane. I mean you look over and your kid, all of a sudden boom. Biggest fear, but his wife, his ex-wife, had showed up and she was resuscitating him. It's what you said, not him.
Speaker 1:No, he was, he was, he was a mess.
Speaker 2:He was great father up until the fact. Until the day he found out his kid was brain damaged and was going to be a parent.
Speaker 1:Left one. At the altar, mm-hmm Abandoned a child.
Speaker 2:Neglected a kid, left another.
Speaker 1:Now just threw out the third one with her daughter. The third one she couldn't even finish kindergarten in the same school she'd been in all year. Wow yeah, just started kindergarten.
Speaker 2:Ugh. Douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche Douche.
Speaker 1:Douche, douche, douche, douche.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:So after the divorce, Sylvia moves in with her parents, Joseph and Alicia Ortega, at 1129 East Norcross Drive in West Covina Crazy ex-girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Yes. West Covina and when I said like I wish Delilah was still her part of that, and when I said like I wish Delilah was still her part of that and if you haven't watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:It is a musical, but the plot is fantastic it's got everything yes it's great. It's a good bourbon so, on Christmas Eve 2008, this is where it's getting heavy. Y'all trigger warning. Oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2:Pearls are clutched.
Speaker 1:Yes, the family is having their annual get together and there are a lot of family members it's a huge family and neighbors. There was like 28 to 30, 30 people. So Joseph, who was 80, and Alicia, who was 70, had been married for 53 years and had moved to Cali from Mexico after starting their own business. They were a love at first sight situation and that's beautiful. They it lasted, they made it work 53 years and made an amazing life for themselves and a huge family around them for this gathering.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So sometime after 11 pm and I think it was down to just the family at this point the adults were playing a game of Texas Hold'em, some were getting ready to leave with their leftovers, their gifts, all that good stuff, and the kids were out back playing video games. I think it was in a pool house situation. I think some kids were swimming, because it's in California and it's fucking hot. 17 year old Michael Ortega was upstairs playing on the computer. He was the only one upstairs. Then there was a knock at the door Eight year old Katrina. She has a very difficult last name. I didn't even try to, so I'm just going to. It's just going to be Katrina.
Speaker 1:She answered the door and, to her absolute delight, santa was there carrying a giant present. Santa picked her up in an embrace and as soon as he put her down he pulls a gun out and shoots her in the face. Immediately the family starts panicking, running over, running and diving, diving under tables, and Santa starts shooting wildly. Charles Ortega recognized Santa and said it's Bruce and was shot and killed immediately. Other men in the family who had been shot actually got up and tried to take Bruce down. They put up. I mean, they put up a big fight.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm sitting here looking at Lindsay right now.
Speaker 1:He's blank as fuck. Alright, so Joseph, alicia, sylvia and two more of the daughters were hiding under the dining room table and were killed right there, execution style. Leticia, the mother of Katrina, was able to get out of the house because Katrina actually survived being shot in the face and somehow stumbled out of the home and Leticia I'm sure thoughtlessly, just whatever ran out of the house after her child and she survived as well.
Speaker 2:Somebody get him.
Speaker 1:So now, after he baby, did you not pay attention to how many magazines of fucking bullets he has? He's just flinging lead everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yes On Christmas.
Speaker 1:Now, after Bruce had shot all of his bullets all of them he's gone through all of them by now he was not finished. The big gift that he had was actually a homemade flamethrower.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I will have pictures of all of this. Lindsay yeah that.
Speaker 2:He unwrapped it.
Speaker 1:Lindsay, I know, I know it's going to get rough. He started setting the home ablaze. Michael, who was upstairs, had actually not been killed by gunshot, but was killed by the fire. Leticia was able to call 911. And, oh my God, I heard the call.
Speaker 2:So there's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then neighbors. Neighbors were calling because this house is going up in flames. There's been gunshots going on. Yeah, a minute neighbors.
Speaker 2:Neighbors were calling because this house is going up in flames. There's been gunshots going on for a minute now. The douche is on the loose.
Speaker 1:And there's pictures of the neighborhood. All the houses were kind of close together, so I mean the whole fucking neighborhood knew what was going on or heard what was going on. So she was in absolute shock and you know her daughter had been shot and let them know that Bruce Pardo was the suspect and he was still in the house and she could still hear shooting.
Speaker 2:Just slaying.
Speaker 1:It took 80 firefighters over an hour to put this fire out and in the end nine members of the Ortega family were dead Sylvia, joseph, alicia Charles, sherry Lynn Ortega. James Ortega, teresa Ortega. Alicia Ortega Ortiz so there was two Alicia's in the home and Michael Ortiz. Most of the bodies were so burned that dental records were required for identification. Two of the younger kids were shot but survived, and one had jumped from a two-story window and had broke their ankle, but they did survive. 13 surviving children were left as orphans, 13. There was a lot of children in that home.
Speaker 2:Where do you so the whole privilege thing of having intelligence has snapped and it snapped.
Speaker 1:And this was the first sign of violence he had ever shown Ever. Now, like I said, he was immature and selfish, you bet.
Speaker 2:But violence. We've seen the first sign of selfishness with the wedding that he left.
Speaker 1:What a beautiful wedding.
Speaker 2:He left Delilah at the altar and it all started there. Yes, what a story, lindsay. Goodness gracious.
Speaker 1:So Bruce got away before any. I guess authorities got there and drove off in his rental car but he was badly burned and some of his Santa suit was actually melted into his skin. But he does remove that Santa suit was actually melted into his skin, but he does remove that. He drives 40 miles to his brother's house who was not home, sits on the couch and shoots himself in the head, completing suicide. His brother arrives home at 3 am to find him. But this was not Bruce's initial plan. He had previously bought tickets to go see that friend in Iowa for Christmas. He had cocaine in his system, I guess, to get him all hyped up. But in my experience back in the day people that I've seen on that same substance they would get paranoid as fuck, like I don't know how. I guess it affects everybody differently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I don't know how you could go through something like that. He was hyper focused, you know, and the level of intelligence and everything that he has going on in his head, like he was.
Speaker 1:And then everything around him is crashing down Everything.
Speaker 2:His whole mother was against him Selfish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she had every right to be against him.
Speaker 2:Ugh, what a cod sack him. Oh, what a cod sack.
Speaker 1:He had 17 grand wrapped, wrapped in plastic, around his leg. They had found his rental car a ways down the road from his brothers with all the evidence, plus laptops, mats of Mexico, food, water, ammo. So his intentions were definitely to go on the run. And here's the kicker he. And here's the kicker he had rigged the costume to the ammo in the car, so when it was removed the car blew the fuck up.
Speaker 2:So if he got pulled, over or something he would, just it was going to get him.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess he had intentions of leaving it there, because I'm not done. Ok. Can you imagine, though, the rental car company be like?
Speaker 2:yeah, I paid my insurance, though like the police being like um.
Speaker 1:We have this car registered and uh it's a bomb it's no longer here, so sorry, file your claim but I paid. I paid the extra for the insurance and the rental car and then to let him know that, yeah, it was rigged with a Santa suit. Yeah, so, and I still can't believe that, with third degree burns all over him, that he was able to rig that shit up before taking his own life Like he did, that before he chose to go sit down.
Speaker 1:He was yayed up and put the gun in his mouth, yeah he's on that white girl. So at his home they basically found a bomb factory, like he had all the shit everywhere, and they found that he had another rental car staged near his ex now deceased wife's attorney's house and most likely had planned to kill him as well and and his own mother had been invited to the Ortega's that to the Christmas party that night. He was trying to get her to make it because she had the flu. The flu saved his mother.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Just like she was trying to call him out on his bullshit to begin with, like hey girl, let me tell you about him.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know, and all the all the remaining family members, they're wonderful, they're wonderful people. Um, they still love her and do not blame her at all.
Speaker 2:No, they shouldn't. She was right up front.
Speaker 1:So Katrina, who did survive that gunshot to her face, would go on to be an incredible young woman who actively speaks out about gun violence.
Speaker 2:I saw an interview with her and she's so beautiful being an advocate for things like that and then spreading everything I'm getting teary-eyed, oh because I'm just.
Speaker 2:I watched a little interview with her yesterday, but you know, the thing about all that is there is just so many people that are, you know, especially with intelligence, and they have the resources. Don't let them be them really make that a public thing. You know, I I feel like if you have people around you that are to that level and I felt like that, and me and Lindsay have looked at each other and we've been like, you know, we need to kind of keep an eye on this person, but usually it's a transitional thing and they'll move out of it. We have our eyes open just to people in general and we watch people and we talk. We'll have our own little sidebars and our conversations. We've both pointed out people in our lives.
Speaker 2:I think there's family members that I have that we'll both. We'll look at each other and be like let's see how this plays out, and all of them play out well. But people have stages in their life where they can go into that snap thing. You know, they can go into some kind of crazy psychosis for a little bit and then they'll come out of it and they'll grow, and so this is like a teaching thing. But with his intelligence and his selfishness and what he's done and just built all the way up into the point to where he was just going to gather up all this and give it all away because he didn't have his way.
Speaker 1:Well, getting more in depth into true crime over the last 10 years like I've done it my whole life Kind of my introduction to it was Unsolved Mysteries. That's when we were kids. What was the other show? Rescue 911. And then later on when I got cable Lifetime movie, that was like my jam. I watched those all the time and a lot of those are based on true stories. But then the last 10 years of really listening to people who are, you know, well-researched cases and talk about them, it has really opened my eyes to the mental health stigma and how it's just so ignored and it's, I mean, and a lot of times it's not even people's fault because they'll hold it in, you don't? You don't see the signs Right, but we're big vibe people Like we can feel, like they're holding it in.
Speaker 2:I am a big vibe person yes, if we feel like they're holding something in or you know, you and I like I'll kind of just elbow you and we'll kind of do like this little side conversation in the middle of whatever group and family gathering or whatever and I keep saying family because I've pointed that out to you a few times we're kind of closed circle, we don't really venture out. I mean, I do shows, we'll hang out.
Speaker 1:We got our friends and everything. We have a large metal family, but we only see them a few times a year.
Speaker 2:But like if I'm kind of over here talking to Lindsay on the side, I'm just like let's keep an eye out for this person. But every time they've moted through that you know they've, they've gone through but it's good, whatever watch over it to be able to keep watch over it, and that would, be honestly, that that would be the person that we're going to watch for a little while. You watch those signs and those vibes and, and, and we, just we, really we were really worried about.
Speaker 1:they are absolutely thriving now and doing a really good job, have a great relationship, going out and seeing the world, and I'm really happy to see that. Yeah, one that we were worried about as a teenager.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So as far as family goes, really keep an eye out for your family and people around you and if you have those weird vibes and those weird changes of emotions and where you, where you just like something's not right, you know, focus on that just for a little while, because people people move in and out of a bunch of different things in life. You got to watch it just in case it develops into something else and him buying all those guns and everything else.
Speaker 1:But he did all that secretly. Nobody knew he was doing that, except for his one friend. But he did all that secretly. Nobody knew he was doing that, except for his one friend. But he may have just been a douche himself and was like whatever, bro, she's taking you to the cleaners man.
Speaker 2:Their divorce was very public and it was very humiliating for him so I feel like that was a lot of keeping up with the joneses too, because everything on his part, it was just lavish. They, they have this money they're. They're to show he did, she didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1:She was actually just a down to earth laid back chick, sylvia was. She just wanted a home for her and her child.
Speaker 2:That's just.
Speaker 1:She was raised by a very good family and that wasn't a big deal to her To slap it on everybody else.
Speaker 2:That's what sucks about even the last few.
Speaker 1:Her family had money and they were humble. So Her family had money and they were humble. So that's what she was raised with. The last one that you talked about too, like so many innocent people, over nothing and just selfishness. I mean that last one was over rent and $40,000.
Speaker 2:Selfish ass fucking people, you know, and this guy here? He's just like I own the world, I can do whatever I want to and get away with it. Oh, didn't work out for you there, flamethrower Douche yeah.
Speaker 1:So now Leticia did have a hard time, when Katrina was younger, explaining to her that that was not the real Santa. I mean, she was eight years old, so that's still she had to survive that and still come to. And she's Alex. I've seen a video of her. She is this. She's so beautiful. I can't tell that that happened to her at all.
Speaker 2:I went to school with like a woman you know, she was my age, of course, so we were, we were children growing up together and she had burned up and she was just, and I was always real good friends with her. So that really hits home to me right now. I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah, and it, and then Todd, you know one of my best friends his family had burned up and it was just like, oh, Lindsay, yeah, why are you hitting me like this? It's the bourbon. I'm sorry, maybe.
Speaker 1:But you know, she had to let her know that that was not the real Santa, that was just evil Uncle Bruce.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm sure this entire family has struggled with Christmas for a long time, but it is my understanding that they use this time to remember their loved ones and they show support to other families who go through similar tragedies. Letitia still runs a blog called Letitia's Hope. When all this happened, thousands came to hold a vigil for the family and gather teddy bears and flowers around the burned home.
Speaker 2:That is so sweet. You went off into your side notes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had to get in my side notes because after I sent you my copy of my script, I was like shit, I forgot this. So I was like I'll just write it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really. That's precious that they go through the hardships and everything of just an asshole-ass dude.
Speaker 1:And they're still a good family. None of them became bitter.
Speaker 2:The survivors got stronger. You know, hardships do make you stronger, though they really do. And asshole ass dudes. I'm glad that he didn't make it. I'm not trying to say, you know, there was a lot of mental things going on there and it happened. Nobody's perspective, I mean, they just seen this intelligent guy that was just kicking ass.
Speaker 1:From my, from my point of view, yeah, I mean, the co-worker would have never introduced him to this lovely woman if he had known that there was anything like that.
Speaker 2:No, they thought he was a stand up dude and didn't know the dirt on the.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say it again on the Bruce but because I'm going to, because that is the close of our story of Bruce the douche. But there are a lot of articles on. I think there was an LA times one about the Ortega family and how amazing they are and they need all they over. La Times one about the Ortega family and how amazing they are and they need all they overcame.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They need all the recognition.
Speaker 2:Kudos. Kudos to the Ortega family, kudos to Lindsay's story.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. It breaks my heart that these people who had fell in love in Mexico and come over here and made this wonderful life and had this wonderful family with their yearly traditions, Surely Americana like real American shit. They came over here and achieved this supposed American dream yeah, driving successful life and family, all to just be ruined by some guy who was pissed off about having to pay his ex-wife some money. Yeah, and don't get fucking married. You know what I mean? Don't get married, don't go into a marriage.
Speaker 1:Just don't dive into that. Don't abandon your child, who is a paraplegic because of you.
Speaker 2:The first point yes, yes, girl, girl, I mean I'm just, but I'm also thumbing through my book he's back in the bible, guys I don't see it, dude. I don't see this one. I don't see the rebel. Well, here I'll look for you while you talk about what band we're gonna feature oh yes, thumb thumb through on Rebel Bourbon from Kentucky, and I want to talk about this group because I got to play with this group. They are oh. I'm excited Flapping, amazing Flipping, flapping.
Speaker 1:Flipping, flapping.
Speaker 2:No douche in this one.
Speaker 1:Oh, this one looks fancy, we should try it. You should try that one next. What's it called? You should try that one. Next, what's it called? Joseph Mangus Straight bourbon whiskey, joseph.
Speaker 2:Mangus.
Speaker 1:And they have a cigar blend also.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, like a bourbon cigar, that would be very cool. I want to talk about Red Calling Lindsay. Oh I love the. Red Calling. I heard one of their songs. It came across because we all kind of play together. They're based out of tampa, but two of them are actually in south america, from south america, red calling wow and I love.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that about them yeah, two of them.
Speaker 2:what you remember when we were playing in orlando and they came up and they were in our little circle when we did the women who rock thing, and she came up and her husband had come up and they were both like Colombian, I think.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.
Speaker 2:So we had the Latina from I ain't even gonna lie Y'all.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty, I'm pretty you're pretty buzzed. I do amazing at the merch table, though you would never know that.
Speaker 2:I was at the shows, yeah, at the shows.
Speaker 1:At that time I was usually about three Long Island man mom yeah. I no longer do the Long Islands. I'm scared of them now because I had a hospital visit. Red calling, though, was just Phenomenal You're a grand old dad, you're a oh, sorry, that's the name of this bourbon.
Speaker 2:I really enjoyed playing with this group.
Speaker 1:Yes, and we played with them a few times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I keep saying their name because I want everybody to know them.
Speaker 1:Red Collie.
Speaker 2:A really phenomenal cool-ass group and we had such a cool time.
Speaker 1:Ooh, there's a tomfoolery, tomfoolery bourbon.
Speaker 2:This book is awesome and I'm not even paying attention to what I'm supposed to be talking about, red Collie.
Speaker 1:What are we hearing from them today?
Speaker 2:You know what song I'm going to play, my favorite from them, and it's relevant. I just hit them up and told them we're going to play them on our podcast.
Speaker 1:Which I will link in our Instagram stories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, check them out. We're dipping away from Curtain Call Records, but these guys should be famous just as well. They're phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Phenomenal. I hang out with so many cool bands, you know, and I need to get back to hanging out with so many cool bands.
Speaker 1:Oh, here's that top shelf Wild Turkey. That wasn't the shit that we was drinking in high school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the hot fruit and chicken chicken. Yeah, you got to spend about $300.
Speaker 1:Ooh, there's a few of them. Okay, yeah, it gets a lot better. There's an 81 proof A wild turkey rare breed. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yes, I've talked about them enough and I think we just need to go ahead and play them because they deserve the recognition. So check these guys out. This is Red Calling, and I'll tell Lindsey the name of the song afterwards. Okay, because Red Calling, and I'll tell Lindsay the name of the song afterwards. Okay, because this is my favorite jam of them and I'm excited. So here we go. Guitar solo. I'm trying my best to leave this place, but I'm feeling pain and I'm becoming smaller. You're ruining yourself, ruining me. I'll take it back and start walking farther. Take care of the breath. Thank you. I found my path. I can't seem to breathe. You beat up my senses. I can't seem to breathe. Don't give me the answers. You're losing your ground. I'm slowly down and I'm starting to feel this pain. It's regretting. Thank you, bye, it's over. It's time to say goodbye to your face, cause now it's over. Take a breath In our lives. They're so amazing. That was great. I love Red Calling.
Speaker 1:I really do, and I found your bourbon in the Bible.
Speaker 2:You did.
Speaker 1:But it was previously named Rebel Yell.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's.
Speaker 2:Rebel, they relabeled, I guess maybe.
Speaker 1:But that's it. It's the same bottle, it's everything and it's the small batch. Yeah, reserved yes.
Speaker 2:It's good.
Speaker 1:It's good Small batch reserved Kentucky straight. Small Match Reserve Kentucky Straight and this band was good.
Speaker 2:This band was. They deserve all the recognition. Check out them on YouTube, because that music video is amazing. That's what I fell in love with. This chick just comes up and just slays it. I love her voice, yeah, and the guitar player is her husband. I think, Well, they're always together. So I think there's yeah, I don't know enough about.
Speaker 1:Well, you thought.
Speaker 2:Jack White and meg white were brother and sister, so anyhow they're from central america, south america, they're from there. Anyhow, they're not originally from tampa, but they kill it. It's a really cool day I do. I've always enjoyed their sets I want to play with them again. I want to to be like when I get my shit back together. I want to play with you guys a million more times, and you're going to play just that one song.
Speaker 1:Any good screamers with good melodic tones hit Jesse up. He needs a singer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just using your podcast to find singers.
Speaker 1:That's okay, as long as I can get this shit that I hear listen to all the time off my brain and into yours and you plug.
Speaker 2:That was my idea. I wanted to do it. This is a great story.
Speaker 1:I've been wanting to do that for some years.
Speaker 2:Tell us what you think about it. I want to know what our fans think about it. We just picked up Germany. That was really cool.
Speaker 1:We got another Canadian right. Yeah, Shout out Canada.
Speaker 2:You know, in the song they played it was just. It sticks in my head when she's all like Take a rough breath.
Speaker 1:I love her voice. Killer of life. Now you've got me. I'm like reading this Bible myself, and I'm like, yeah, she's over there.
Speaker 2:I'm still basking in red calling and she's in the bourbon Bible.
Speaker 1:I want a mint julep.
Speaker 2:I want a mint julep. You know, we have some mint out there, we do.
Speaker 1:We have mint in our Gordon, we want to do a mint julep, Ooh the. Manhattan. I've always heard of these and never tried it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been doing Manhattan's you have. Yeah, it comes pre-mixed.
Speaker 1:I got it over there. See that. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I was going to say I have not bought you any cherries. How are you making a Manhattan?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't put cherries in it because I'm cheap.
Speaker 1:Well, you need cherries.
Speaker 2:We got cherries.
Speaker 1:To take away the count. I don't want to put cherries.
Speaker 2:Check them out. Let us know what you think about the pod, the music, yes, drinkaboutsomethingsite.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And we're having such a fabulous time I have, honestly, since I started sipping on this and I haven't even finished it, because this is like over 100 proof, so I have not been much help.
Speaker 1:We've got to wrap presents, sir. We've got to go off and just go be Santa. For the next two hours I'm going to be bourbon bound, wrapping presents With some mushroom gravy and watch some Christmas movies and then go to work for a couple of days and prepare for our Christmas endeavors.
Speaker 2:We're playing this because this is Christmas.
Speaker 1:This will come out on Christmas, but we today are recording and we have Christmas shit to do. So just in case I'm not able to pull it off next week, we may have to take a break. I'm trying, I'm going to try to get together a Minnesota for us to have out Minnesota, minnesota.
Speaker 2:You did say that you were, yes.
Speaker 1:I'm going to try my hardest.
Speaker 2:I think I can pull it off, you're fired up, you're going to do it.
Speaker 1:I think I can pull it off About our hometown cult.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yes, you were mentioning that, and you know somebody, and I probably know some people too, because it's all right here in our hometown.
Speaker 1:Well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about the facts that I can find and then we will talk about just our experiences growing up around it and all the myths and shit that we heard. And I have some cool OG twist, and then I found an amazing article from the Gainesville Sun that I want to read to you guys. It's not boring, I promise.
Speaker 2:And I came from a little background from the cult leader, so that's kind of cool, like where he lived.
Speaker 1:And just in case I can't pull it off we're not going to say anything. It will be our next episode, but I don't know, we may have to take a break.
Speaker 2:So we're going to do a cult special.
Speaker 1:Our next, our next episode is definitely going to be what we can do After.
Speaker 2:Christmas.
Speaker 1:Yes, y'all just stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll keep you updated.
Speaker 2:We're going to do something about some cult shit and I'm excited, right.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And I know, I know, I know I grew up in Columbia City, where the the in Columbia City. Oh, this is where the Florida is the home base of the cult thing. So I got some cool stories I do and you got some cool stories. You've worked with some people and you know people that were. That left and were successful.
Speaker 1:So successful.
Speaker 2:And that's really amazing. They did great things. They didn't dress up in Santa suits.
Speaker 1:No, wow, wow that was rough. I know I had to choke back tears a couple of times.
Speaker 2:You see me clouded up. I look at you.
Speaker 1:He looked at me.
Speaker 2:It was just like it was like instant tears yeah.
Speaker 1:That little emoji with the watery eyes. That was Jesse.
Speaker 2:I get like that a lot. I had a coworker that came.
Speaker 1:We were crying this morning over a Christmas card too. We are babies, we are absolutely. We're just soft, we have. We also have a son that's going through a breakup, and I'm very emotional with him right now.
Speaker 2:I was holding it was nice to hold my baby, though you did you and you're always going to be that person. And I go back to my mom too. I do. A lot of dudes do that right, if they have a good mom in some ways ways. You know, people have problems in life, but they always have to.
Speaker 1:We had our grandbaby, so we're all cuddling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're all cuddling. It was a nice morning it was, and we hope you had a great Christmas morning with all your family and everything.
Speaker 1:Decorated cookies for Santa.
Speaker 2:Also, though, if there's any debacles, we want to know about it, because we're selfish like that, we're douchey like that.
Speaker 1:Send us a wholesome story or a drama story. We'll love to read both of them. If you want them read on the air. Send us that email or Gmail. Go to drinkaboutsomethingsite where you can click on our Instagram and follow us and see pictures from this case. And, um, send us a Gmail about your stories. We would love to hear from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we'll see you guys right after this We'll see. We'll see to be continued.
Speaker 1:I think it'll be Friday or two to be an app. I think it'll be the Friday after Christmas.
Speaker 2:So we're going to release this on Christmas day and I'm going to make, I'm going to, I'm going to put a Friday after new year's. Yeah, you're wanting to do the Friday after new year's. Oh, we definitely got that girl. Friday after new year's. Yeah, we will see you guys on there, and we're going to talk about this cult here in Lake City, florida, our own little hometown cult, and then after that I want to do a little episode, because a new biopic came out and it inspired me.
Speaker 1:I want to do an episode on the true crime in Johnny Cash's life.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're going to do a rockabilly star yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we'll get into a heavy hitter after that. Okay, I'm excited. Yes, I keep saying I'm going to do Rockabilly.
Speaker 2:Star, rockabilly Star, yeah, and then we'll get into a heavy hitter after that. Okay, I'm excited. Yes, I keep saying I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I have read every single book that is out there about Johnny Cash His own autobiographies.
Speaker 2:I took her to Tennessee. Yes, she got to see his grave, his grave and the true crime that was in this man's life was astounding.
Speaker 1:It's one of the most fascinating reads of my entire life. I'm a bookworm.
Speaker 2:You're going to love this Colt stuff too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're going to love this Before the cash we got Colt, so Colt Cash, and then a heavy hitter to be announced Colt Cash heavy hitter Coming up. We'll see you guys. We'll see you guys then. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Speaker 2:We love you so much Thank you for listening and you know what I'm going to. I'm going to say it like you do.
Speaker 1:Bye, okay, bye.
