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EPISODE 18: Screaming for Danny Rolling
Aldi seltzer and Crown Apple is the drinks of choic this episode. Our Valentine's Day dinner took an unexpected turn, reminding us of how our bodies are evolving with age – a theme that runs throughout our lively discussions.
In a twist of humor and horror, we dive into our shared love for Harry Potter and recount our adventures at Universal Studios, all while sorting ourselves into Gryffindor and Slytherin. Just as we gear up for a weekend armed with Pepto, Lindsey starts part one of the two parter case of Danny Rolling ...AKA ...The Gainesville Ripper and his connection to the Scream franchise. At Spookala, we found ourselves amidst Ghostface enthusiasts, where laughter mingled with shivers in a spook-tacular gathering.
Our journey doesn't stop there, as we recount our experiences at a horror-themed event in Ocala, Florida, meeting celebrities like David Arquette and Jamie Kennedy. Amidst the vibrant energy of Ghostface cosplayers, we indulge in Halloween-scented candles and reminisce about encounters with stars like Jack Osborne and Richard Brake. With a blend of humor, nostalgia, and thoughtful reflection on topics such as parenting challenges and childhood trauma, this episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions that captures the complexities of life.
Hey Jesse, Hello Lindsay, What'd you drink in today?
Speaker 2:It's a neutral lime from the Aldi's that you got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay so I tried the Aldi seltzers this week instead of getting my normal White Claws, because I did all my shopping at Aldi this week. I usually do both. I usually do like half and half. I get half of our shit from Walmart and half of our shit from Aldi, but I really didn't need anything.
Speaker 2:This one has a little something from Canada in there too, a little bit of crown apple.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Ooh crown apple and.
Speaker 1:I had tried the Alda Alda, aldi Alda small things. Alda, aldi, alda the Aldi Small things. So I had tried the Aldi seltzers over the holidays and I liked them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was like, well, I'm going to be at Aldi anyway, spending the money.
Speaker 2:I mean, you can go the other way on that too. Aldi Small things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that she left me roses by the stairs.
Speaker 1:Sorry, surprised, as I may know she can't.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:I will not go. Okay, so I have a double pineapple Vista Bay seltzer in my cup with some ice.
Speaker 2:Nice, keep it nice and cold. That's a nice big old bucket. You got a big old bucket, lady, big old bucket of seltzers. Yeah, so I like my fermented with my distilled a lot.
Speaker 1:What made you feel old this week?
Speaker 2:Me Old, old this week. You know what? I've actually been pretty sharp this week, like I really have, but just constant aches. Sometimes, you know, it's like just really have, but just constant aches. Sometimes it's like just being old, I guess.
Speaker 1:Well, for me it was.
Speaker 2:When I was talking about how I can't squat all the way down, I still can. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I learned the Drake dance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh God.
Speaker 1:I learned the Kendrick Lamar dance.
Speaker 2:So your brain's old, but oh my God, Erase that and no spam. I learned the Kendrick Lamar dance. So your brain's old, but you know, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Erase that and no spam. You cannot call me Spam. Risk is trying to call me.
Speaker 2:They want to get on the pod they want to get on the pod. Can I tell you something? No, no, my knees are fucking.
Speaker 1:My knees, my knees, my knees my knees.
Speaker 2:Remember we were at that Ginger show and I was yelling that out for Sumo Psycho and she was like I want everybody to get down, you know, and do like the whole jump up thing, like. Slipknot does.
Speaker 1:So I'm like dude, I'll kind of that was a good show, punk over a little bit at the Crowbar in Orlando right. We got the first leg of Ginger's North American tour in a very small mall.
Speaker 2:Very small, like the size of our house tour in a very small, small, small, small living room. Oh God, yeah, about twice the size of our living room and what was the capacity?
Speaker 1:200?. It was packed, yeah, packed full. We got to go to that show for $17. But Sumo Psycho was fire dude they were. And the Browning was great, the Browning.
Speaker 2:Well, of course, the Browning's fire. Yes, she's all like I want everybody to get down.
Speaker 1:Y'all come on yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm all like okay. And I yelled and the place was quiet as soon as I yelled it out, I thought nobody would hear me and she's like are you okay On the stage it?
Speaker 3:was so tight, yeah, and I was like I'm embarrassed now.
Speaker 1:But we were like we were in a sweat range.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it felt like the nineties again. I felt I honestly, I'd felt like I was back at, uh, the milk bar or something in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1:I never got to do any of that shit I didn't get to do the milk bar.
Speaker 2:Let us know, hey, if anybody that's listening has done the milk bar. I want to hear some more milk bars.
Speaker 1:So we've got some Jacksonville. I thought they were bar back.
Speaker 2:Tell me about that, if it's. If it's true, let me know if the milk bar's coming back.
Speaker 1:Let us know if that's fake or not yeah, fuck, but yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:It felt like I had stepped back into the late 90s for me. I was like this place is phenomenal, super packed and I would have loved to experience.
Speaker 1:The bands are all becoming famous and ginger now in the carts for me yeah, sumo psycho.
Speaker 2:the brownie are big, uh, ginger's untouchably big, oh God. Yeah, they're huge now.
Speaker 1:So we've seen them at what was that place called Crowbar.
Speaker 2:Sound Bar oh Sound Bar.
Speaker 1:Sound Bar.
Speaker 2:What was Crowbar? Why am I thinking Crowbar? Crowbar is a band. No, Crowbar is a place in Tampa.
Speaker 1:No, I'm thinking it's a sound bar, right. Sound bar, sound bar in Orlando. Sound bar is in Orlando. I was wrong, and then we've also seen them three times at House of Blues.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did we see them in Louisville. No, no.
Speaker 1:But we're going to see them at Rockville, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:She's going to split that fucking crowd.
Speaker 1:Yes. She better do a wall of death, yeah she's going to split that crowd. So my thing that made me feel old is I've had stomach issues all week.
Speaker 2:I've lived off of. We both did.
Speaker 1:I've lived off of yogurt and protein shakes and we decided to go out and have a Valentine's meal last night and we were miserable the entire evening. Listen to our recap to get the full story. I let it out the last night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was tough.
Speaker 1:I felt like Daniel Radcliffe in the night sweats Last night. Literally we did not sleep.
Speaker 3:Son of a bitch, let me drink.
Speaker 1:I've been up all night.
Speaker 3:Woah, woah, woah, let me drink. I've been up all night, love you.
Speaker 1:It is Daniel Radcliffe right.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's not Ronnie Radcliffe Radkey, whatever.
Speaker 1:Daniel Radcliffe. No Radke, whatever, hold on Daniel Radcliffe and the Night Sweats, nathaniel. Oh wait, daniel Radcliffe is Harry Potter, oh.
Speaker 2:I'm leaving all that.
Speaker 1:Nathaniel Radcliffe and the Night Sweats. Nathaniel Radcliffe, let me make sure I'm right about Daniel Radcliffe too. Daniel Radcliffe, let me make sure I'm right about Daniel Radcliffe too. Daniel Radcliffe, yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you got that, daniel.
Speaker 1:Radcliffe is Harry Potter Nathaniel. Nathaniel Radcliffe in the.
Speaker 2:Night Swift, Even when I do Harry Potter. What do I look like? That was me last night. Harry Potter Do I?
Speaker 1:look funny. Is it Potter? Harry Potter. This is how you look, harry Potter. Do I look funny? Yes, harry Potter. This is how you look, harry Potter. So I can't say you just flare out the nostrils.
Speaker 2:I can't say schnozberries and I can't say Harry Potter, flare out the nostrils.
Speaker 1:I can't do it, harry.
Speaker 2:Potter.
Speaker 1:Harry Potter See.
Speaker 2:I don't move my eyes, look at you, I just do the bottom half of my face. You really do look, harry. Poulter, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Did I slip into Snape, right there you went Slytherin style.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely a Gryffindor, but I hang out over it with Slytherin a lot.
Speaker 2:You hobnob over there on that side of the fence Silas loves.
Speaker 1:Slytherin. So much when we would go to Universal. He's like I'm Slytherin. Yeah, everybody Look at me, Look at me, he does, he has the hat, the scarf the socks, everything he looks Slytherin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he does. I'm just walking around with my mouth like yeah. Looking at everything mouth open, just like head on a swivel, like just checking everything out. I want to touch this.
Speaker 1:I want to look at that. You know, that was the most disappointing thing to me. I really thought and I don't know why, this is just something that I thought in my head that they would have a sorting hat thing where you could get sorted. That would be awesome, don't they? No, we asked about it, jesse.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, because we wanted to do that for Landon before we got him his wand. Right.
Speaker 1:And we asked about it and they're like no, we really don't do that, you kind of just identify. I identify as so Landon and I, chose Gryffindor and Silas and Jesse were definitely Slytherin, isn't that what you?
Speaker 2:chose. No, I'm Gryffindor too.
Speaker 1:You are Okay, but you bought yourself a Slytherin lanyard thing.
Speaker 2:Because I wanted something different and I knew that he wouldn't take it anyhow, so yeah, All right, let's get this thing started, yeah we're going to go ahead and fire this. Happy Friday. Happy Friday, and it's going to be a good weekend, even though we have stomach issues. Red lobster, that's okay. We have Pepto, we have Pepto, we have Pepto, we have Pepto, we have Pepto, we have Pepto, we have Pepto.
Speaker 1:So, jesse, you haven't asked me what we're drinking about in the last few episodes. I did not.
Speaker 2:I don't think I did. No, I did not. Well, I mean, I knew, but I will ask you. If you want me to, I will ask you. All right, okay, what are we drinking about?
Speaker 1:We're drinking about Danny Rowling, aka the Gainesville Ripper.
Speaker 2:See, I haven't locked in the name of him, the inspiration behind the Scream franchise. And we love that. Before you get off into that, you want to talk about a really cool gathering of ghost faces.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that we went to. Was it the Spookala and Ocala that?
Speaker 2:was the Spookala and Ocala before they moved to Tampa.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I thought they did both.
Speaker 2:At the Equestrian Central in Ocala, florida. Okay, so, yeah, we went there.
Speaker 1:It was the largest we got to see Oskie Ulrich and Matthew Lillard and Jamie Kennedy. And what's the other one's name? Not Dewey Cox, but his real name, david Arquette.
Speaker 2:David Arquette Gave me a fist bump.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Jamie Kennedy did too. But they're very personable with their audience. That was cool and they had, like a ghost face, a record-breaking ghost face it was over 250, I think.
Speaker 2:It was like the stage. I was like this stage is going to break.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they gathered everybody. There was a bunch of people there. It said ghost face assemble.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they even did some of the goofy ghost face from the parody too. That was funny too, like the stoned ghost face. Yeah, they didn't care.
Speaker 1:From a scary movie. Yeah, it was like it wouldn't have happened without them. There's going to be another one of them coming out.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Need to. It's time to catch up because there's so much good new horror content out there. Yeah, put it back. Scream 37, he wakes up from the woods and he comes back and he's in the movie.
Speaker 1:He's a zombie Because he was already old. Yeah, he was cool, though.
Speaker 2:Yes, he was I want to see the original Ghostface guy. The original he's like. You know I'm Ghostface. He was like a biker dude. He's really cool, big biker dude yes, spook.
Speaker 1:Alla is fun. We have a blast.
Speaker 2:If you're in florida, and you love horror and true crime because they're all there it's all there. I want to go and pass out some cards and be like check us out too. Like yes, hailer, you know, maybe my buddy will set up a booth and we have our favorite little um candle corner that we go to.
Speaker 1:We always get the candles yes, because they have the because cause we? It's around October, so it's right about the time where everything in my house turns into pumpkin and they have a um, a hollow I think it's called hollow man scent and a wicked pumpkin scent wax melt that are just fabulous. And then they have a candle called wake the dead and it's jet.
Speaker 2:That's Jesse's favorite hazelnut, it is so good. And if you want to meet celebrities and movie stars and all that stuff, they're there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the cons are where it's at.
Speaker 2:Well, the smaller ones we walked right up and was talking to Jack. Osborne, I was like what the hell? And I'm talking about music.
Speaker 1:We talked to Richard Brake, who was the Night King.
Speaker 2:The king, the night king? What was he called in 31? Doom doomhead. Yeah, with the stilettos. Yeah, people in hell want popcorn or some shit he says in the movie.
Speaker 1:We watched another one of his movies last week, but we fell asleep.
Speaker 2:We were exhausted yeah, but he's our nap time.
Speaker 1:He's phenomenal, the movie itself like he was and we had a 30 minute drunk ass conversation.
Speaker 2:They were sitting around a campfire and like he was, like the guy that got everybody together and it was like mini stories, yeah and they were throwing the little totems in the pole in the fire and and but he was on fire. Everybody else was, like you know and seth green was there yeah, we've seen that first one.
Speaker 1:The last one, uh, walter goggins is there and we fucking love walter goggins. He is uncle baby billy, uncle baby billy and righteous gemstones and he's what's his. I fucking love Walter Goggins he is Uncle Baby Billy, uncle Baby Billy In Righteous Gemstones, and he's what's his character name in that.
Speaker 2:Oh, Vice Principals.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, the other one. Oh, the other one, he's the goon.
Speaker 2:He's the goon in Fallout.
Speaker 1:What's the name of that show? Fallout, fallout, fallout. Yes.
Speaker 2:And I can't wait for Seen his cack. Too much though, Uncle Baby Billy's wiener's out again.
Speaker 1:The vice principal is great too.
Speaker 2:We'll have to catch up on that one later, yeah, vice principal, you were sleeping and I found it from a buddy of mine at work, so woke now.
Speaker 1:Woke, woke, right up, I mean, and it's got Danny McBride, yeah, it's perfect, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:Watch vice principal Bill. Yeah, it's perfect, it's perfect. Watch Vice President Bill Murray opens that bitch up. Bill Murray opens it up and he's out. He's deuces at the flag. He's like I pledge and y'all get to, I'm gone, I'm back on Groundhog Daytime.
Speaker 1:All right. So what do you think the ingredients for this serial killer salad is?
Speaker 2:He has a salad. That's predominantly.
Speaker 1:That's what we're going to start calling it.
Speaker 2:Oh, the serial killer salad. Yes, what do you?
Speaker 1:think the ingredients are? What do you think led this man to do the horrific things that he would go on to do?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I have no clue. You're catching me too new. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay Well, you learned a little bit from Eileen.
Speaker 2:Okay Well, okay, okay so.
Speaker 1:So just take Parent trauma, sexual assault, abuse.
Speaker 2:Things happen as childhood.
Speaker 1:Well, you'll be correct, so let's get it started.
Speaker 2:Okay then, so I'm nailing it.
Speaker 1:I'm learning, so I'm going to do a blanket trigger warning over the next two episodes, which will include domestic violence, child abuse, animal abuse, rape, mutilation and murder.
Speaker 2:You got to get better at that. You got to say it like side effects, like for a drug medicine side effects.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you want me to do it real fast. I can't talk that fast, especially when I've had a few in me, so let's get into the background.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, you know me, I'm like all ADD on the commercials and everything, and then all of a sudden, at the very end of them, they're like while some, this lady is like twirling around, yeah, and I'm like dude you're gonna have like anal leakage and fucking bladder bleed and or planting some flowers aneurysms and your skin like falling off and you know, and it's all like I love how they start out with.
Speaker 2:If you have moderate to severe, yeah, whatever, yeah, whatever it is psoriasis is the ones we see the most disease yeah, plaque psoriasis, but no, it's like the side effects are way worse. Come on, dude, we can't figure out medicine better than this of our blanket trigger warning are even worse and I can't, I can't talk that well, but like by now because you can literally design medicine now by AI and it's like if you put the positive it's a healing, the negative it'll kill you, Like you can have.
Speaker 1:AI actually do it. How to stop a serial killer.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and fire this thing off.
Speaker 1:That's all lies within the nurture versus nature. Yeah, I guess that's all lies within the nurture versus. Was it nurture versus nature?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess. No, that's not what I'm thinking of. So if you don't nurture your child and you're always beating them down, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:You got to balance it out, you got to give them some discipline.
Speaker 2:You got to give them a contrast of human, but not hurt them. Yeah, you got to love them. Yeah, that's what we've been talking about with ours too. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You got to love them but also give them limits, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's hard. Limits, yeah, and it's hard. Parenting fucking sucks. If you're even working with Silas and you're having problems and issues, I always try to come up with some kind of solution. You're like, oh my God, I can't today.
Speaker 1:I cannot. Today I'm going to say parenting sucks, parenting is hard.
Speaker 2:But thinking outside of the box and trying to bring something in that's positive, in a positive way, like just saying the no.
Speaker 1:Hey, the no, you know. Hey, it might not be positive to him at the moment, but he needs to learn the no, you know. So that's good, all right. So daniel danny rolling was born on may 26th 1954 in shreveport, louisiana, to james rolling and claudia beatrice. James and claudia married young and when claudia became pregnant with Danny, james was pissed because it happened within months and he just he wasn't ready.
Speaker 2:He wasn't ready. So new All of a sudden she's pregnant.
Speaker 1:They're young, which is weird, because I thought that was like the whole point back then. I guess it just when we hear of past those stories, you think that that was just like the purpose of everybody's life. They were supposed to get married, do the deed, have the baby, raise a family. But it wasn't in james plans. So he got a job that he hated, on an oil rig, to support the family, and this caused him to hate his child before he was even born. J James also severely abused Claudia while she was pregnant, choking her through her down a flight of stairs as a tactic to try to abort. Really, yeah. And before Danny was even born he received his first head injury.
Speaker 2:I mean that's two ass human beings too. Yes, you know it's like don't lay your hands on women, period, because it doesn't take much to overcome.
Speaker 1:I'm going to deep dive a little bit more before the second episode, but I think that James also had a horrible childhood that he grew up with and then put all that rage onto his family. I got you, but still there is no.
Speaker 2:I got you like understanding. I got you None when it comes to laying your hands on women.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:I myself have not. I'm a big advocate for not hitting or laying your hands on women, never.
Speaker 1:So, like I was saying, danny received his first head injury from the doctor who clamped down a little too hard on his skull during the delivery. Wow, yeah, because you know I've only had c-sections, which is easier on the skull of the child so around.
Speaker 2:What year was this, I mean?
Speaker 1:1954, 54.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, we're just gonna pull this young and right on out, right on out. Probably should have been a C-section.
Speaker 1:What do they call them Forceps?
Speaker 2:Forceps yeah.
Speaker 1:So they squeeze a little too hard. Women got it hard.
Speaker 2:dude Women got it hard sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so James hated Danny from the moment that he was born. Even when Danny was learning to crawl, it was kind of like a scoot and that enraged James and he shoved Danny so hard down a hallway that he bounced off a wall. There's head injury number two already, and who knows what was in between.
Speaker 2:The head injury after head injury, you'll see so he's just a few months old, he just yeah well, he's learning.
Speaker 1:So that's almost a year. Well, no few months a few months all my kids were crawling by five months, right exactly that's, that's yeah.
Speaker 2:crawl time is just all. My kids were crawling by five months, right, exactly yeah, crawl time is just three to five months, six months. Our young'uns are up and running.
Speaker 1:Now Claudia, she got pregnant again with Danny's little brother, kevin. Kevin would later on say that he didn't receive as much of his father's abuse as Danny, but there are several years of his life that he can't account for, meaning he has most likely blocked them out from severe trauma.
Speaker 2:Goodness gracious, here he goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here he goes Now, no matter what abuse, danny.
Speaker 2:I'm sipping. Go ahead, go ahead, liz.
Speaker 1:No matter what abuse Danny endured at the hand of his father, he still desperately sought out his approval, all while developing hatred towards his mother for not protecting him. James would beat them if they held their fork wrong. What Hell? Even breathing wrong? Yes, like he was.
Speaker 2:Complete control and just selfish he was a horrible man. I mean.
Speaker 1:I just I couldn't imagine I had such a wonderful dad. Now my dad would get mad at me, my dad would whip my butt and ground me, but he was a merciful, kind father all at the same time. So I just I can't imagine this. Yeah, you know like I used to think the butt whoopings that I got were just horrific, but when you compare it to what other kids go through, Right, right.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm harsh a little bit at times myself, but I'm not physical Like it's more like trying to get something to build off from All the time. That's always been my tactic, even with your kids that we raised together, like there was always some kind of tactic. Whether it be right or wrong, I have, I have been wrong, you know like we said, parenting is hard, it's hard.
Speaker 1:You know nobody is perfect.
Speaker 2:No, I don't care who you are. You're not perfect in parenting, no, but I always had some kind of tactic in there to try to teach them in some kind of way. Something maybe they were, you know. It's hard to find out what's in somebody else's mind to teach you, you know right.
Speaker 1:So james would beat them until they would urinate on themselves, hold their, make them hold their breath until they turned blue. And he beat. He even beat danny's puppy so severely that the puppy died in danny's arms everything how? Many times have we heard this so far?
Speaker 3:in a killer story.
Speaker 1:That's three now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We had Tiffany Cole, we had-.
Speaker 2:That's like a couple of dogs already too.
Speaker 1:Well, it was a cat.
Speaker 2:It was a cat, for Eileen, and the dog.
Speaker 1:It was a dog for Tiffany Cole. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like the worst physical punishment that I gave these four boys were push-ups. Yeah, that was it. I got them.
Speaker 1:Got you push-ups, you do the push-ups no, I'd stand over top and be like you're gonna do those push-ups. You know, yeah, there was one time when my oldest I caught my oldest bullying my middle, my middle or my third, I can't remember, it was one of the two and I made him do the push-ups, jumping jacks, sit-ups yeah, just wear their asses out but the push though, like if their arms are sore and he was already a teenager by that point.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then now he's he can do like a hundred of them, but it's good, you know. Hey, you're teaching a little physical fitness?
Speaker 1:Yeah, extra chores for sure, always. So he would even tie them up with ropes as punishment.
Speaker 2:Like, like bound, you know, like buying their hands behind their back and shit never did that, had to wear a shirt one time that I remember that for me and my sister because we were fine.
Speaker 1:James had been a I think it was a korean war veteran. I didn't write it my notes, but I remember that he was a veteran from korean war and he would go on to be a police officer, which made it hard for any member of his family to report abuse to anyone. His fellow police officers would call him a great guy james is great, and they he guess what his nickname was oh baby dumpling oh the fuck, that's what they call me.
Speaker 1:That is just wild to me how a person can have this whole different persona and you'll see that a lot in cases we'll do later on. But they'll have this whole different persona and you'll see that a lot in cases we'll do later on. But they'll have this whole different persona in public Baby Dumpling Because, you know, opposed to what a shitter, what an old, shitty-ass fucking dude. Opposed to what they are behind closed doors, and that is why.
Speaker 2:I'm sipping on Baby Dumpling. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry to interrupt you don't really ever know a person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they called me baby dumpling in high school. That was my high school nickname.
Speaker 1:So Danny in his childhood would also dent his forehead on some concrete when he was around five. Wow, he was molested by a cousin when he was nine. Fuck, I'm getting a shot, dude, dude, I'm gonna go make a shot I told you we're gonna need shots for this one, but I said part two but this is already part one is pretty rough too. This is fucking horrible so he even prevented his mom from slitting her wrist when he was 11 he prevented his own.
Speaker 2:He prevented his own 11.
Speaker 1:Now, when Claudia got to the hospital for this, she said James made her do it.
Speaker 2:Little Dumplin, little Dumplin, baby Dumplin, baby Dumplin did that. Yes, come on, fuck you, baby Dumplin.
Speaker 1:Claudia would make several attempts to leave, but James would always find a way to get her to come back.
Speaker 2:She should have dumped his Dumplin ass.
Speaker 1:I know, remember that conversation, always remember that in the back of your head, remember that conversation we had with that older woman at the campsite.
Speaker 2:yeah, how hard it was for her in those days this is the same time, the same time frame.
Speaker 1:It was just, it was what it was, and she had no power she went to a judge literally told her well, that's her husband, your husband, he can do whatever he wants to do. And that was in New York.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Danny started seventh grade, his father shaved his head, which earned him the nickname Sasquatch, which makes no sense. You asshole children.
Speaker 2:How do you get Sasquatch from a shaved head?
Speaker 1:Sasquatch is a tall, hairy person.
Speaker 2:This is still the 50s right, or the 60s by now. Okay, so he was born in 54, so this is the 60s, so now the shame About mid-60s, mid to late. They should have been squatching by then, dude.
Speaker 1:I mean they didn't have the beef jerky yet, but still so. By the time Danny was a teenager, he started drinking and getting in trouble for petty theft.
Speaker 2:If anything, they should have called me Sasquatch because I had dreadlocks when I was in high school.
Speaker 1:And you're a hairy person. Well, you were a lot less hairy.
Speaker 2:What do they call?
Speaker 1:me Sideshow Bob. They call me Sideshow Bob, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I first got them they were like tight and they came up and out.
Speaker 1:So one of my oldest coworker friends, her son, has now working with us at the restaurant and he's got sideshow Bob hair like legit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's like twisted and yeah he's Caucasian or no he is Uh, he is biracial. Okay so he's got that perfect mix of both of our cultures hair to where it's just. It's nice. I like it. It's very, it's very cool.
Speaker 2:Right, right. I love just different cultures and how it all mixes together. Oh, he's a beautiful kid, yeah I understand that everybody is going to have different traits and different things he's got dark skin with blue eyes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that's cool, beautiful young.
Speaker 2:That's cool to me yeah, I like the mixes. You know it's not. You know food's not good if you don't put some seasoning up in there.
Speaker 1:Right. So, like I said, by the time Danny was a teenager, he started drinking and getting in trouble for petty theft, but also learned to play guitar and wanted to become a singer and songwriter. Hey, hey.
Speaker 2:So he's trying to overcome and be in his own little pocket. Mm-hmm, he could still be be with all the trauma that he went through and all the bullshit. He could still be a successful human ass being at this moment.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately it didn't work out that way, but the songs that he would learn to play were gospel hymns, Like near my God to thee that one doesn't come to my head right away, and I know a lot of old gospel hymns. Jesse and I were both raised with that.
Speaker 2:But I'm sure if we heard it we would know it.
Speaker 1:So at 15, he got a job at Dairy Queen, trying to straighten himself up, but then he got into a fight with his horrible father, which caused him to attempt suicide by razor blade out in the woods.
Speaker 2:Still looking for that acceptance from his fucking dumpling ass.
Speaker 3:But when he got, hungry.
Speaker 1:He went back home, james' abuse escalated to him and he would start waving a loaded gun around his family, keeping them in a constant state of fear. So Danny's mental state also started escalating into violent sexual fantasies and he became a peeping tom really on his own sharing, or just on other people now?
Speaker 1:oh on danny we're on, danny yeah, yeah james got more violent, danny got more intrigued sexually and, being a creep. Yeah, we're sadistic, yeah. So danny, at 17, did join the Force, but that was short-lived. He was dishonorably discharged after disobeying orders and he had drugs in his bunk and crashed a bike into the back of a military truck and spent 30 days in military jail. This was right after boot camp, so his time, like I said, was very brief. No-transcript.
Speaker 2:So this was right after Vietnam War ended.
Speaker 1:He moved back in with his parents after this and his father continued to keep telling him what an embarrassing, sorry, good for nothing piece of shit.
Speaker 2:He was A little bit successful like a couple of different opportunities there in life already and he just couldn't put it together because of how much shit that's been put on him as a child all the way up to that point. Honestly, that's what I'm feeling. So here we go down the slippery-ass slope.
Speaker 1:Right. Danny continued to abuse drugs. He drank heavily, but also turned to religion. He attended church regularly at King's Temple, united Pentecostal, where he sang in the choir and played guitar. Here is where he met a woman named Omather Helko. Oh, that's quite a name, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Omather, mm-hmm. Marshall Omather.
Speaker 1:And four months later.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:Four months later they were married, that's nice. Well, another positive track, but danny had a hard time keeping a job I'm waiting for you to drop bombs here in a minute, I gotta okay, hold on, I'm gonna take a picture of you with this shot, because you better have it in the shot glass that we got from spook alla. I'll put this in stories the day the episode airs. All right, hold on, give me a second.
Speaker 2:There it is. I had to bring it out. Yes, bitch.
Speaker 1:Yes, bitch, do you like it or I'll retake it?
Speaker 2:No, it's fucking fine, okay, I don't care. I don't care what I look like. We look phenomenal. Actually, you are always on fire, lindsay.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, I'm going to let you ride.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take a. No, I'm not. I'm not even going to sippy poo on that yet.
Speaker 1:No, wait for just a little bit, it gets worse.
Speaker 2:It's a double shot. Yes and y'all check out our. Instagram and check out our stuff and you'll get to see me holding that glass up and understand why I brought that out.
Speaker 1:I know I wish we had kept the little blinky thing that went in it that she had. I cannot find her. We have to find her at the next Spook Hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she paints shot glasses of all these murderers, serial killers we bought.
Speaker 1:Sissy Shelley. We got her a HH Holmes one. She loves HH Holmes, which we talk about in another episode, the Murder House.
Speaker 2:We're going to get into that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that one's going to be. Whew, I've got to do a lot of research on that. That's big stuff.
Speaker 2:But anyhow, go ahead and fire.
Speaker 1:So Danny had a hard time keeping a job and his sex life was not what he wanted it to be, because his sexual preference was unspeakable to a Christian woman. Hell to any woman.
Speaker 2:Oh God, yeah, Well, he had done creep bag before that, so he was probably wanting, like unwilling, like he can creep up on, tie him up, do the shit that his dad had done to him.
Speaker 1:He wanted sadistic shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he wasn't going to get a mother to do. I can already picture all this. Why the fuck are you forming my brain into this Lindsay?
Speaker 1:And you know I didn't write it in my notes. But they did conceive a child, and I think it was a little girl. But, and instead of doing the right thing and being a good provider, danny started drinking heavily. So in 1979, o'mather divorced him and shortly after Danny broke into a woman's house in the middle of the night and raped her so like this whole situation reminds me of Radio Flyer. Why.
Speaker 2:It's like dad's beating you.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched Radio Flyer, probably playing the Hank Williams in the background. Oh God.
Speaker 2:Me and a buddy of mine. He's actually the touring guitar player for Mudvayne and we were talking about that and I was like the Hank Williams song.
Speaker 1:He's like dude, I was just listening to jumble I just the other day that was the song.
Speaker 2:Stop it.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched radio flyer because you told me what happens and it's hard.
Speaker 2:Well, I was sharing our podcast, of course, with him too. I was like dude, you're on the road all the time, this makes sense, like listen to us and check us out, because you know it's got to be his bag. Fuck, he's in mud vein and uh, he's like dude, that's awesome. And then he scrolled back up and seen where I'd put the radio flyer, because he posts like nostalgic movies and things from our you know, our childhood, things that are relevant to us, and I was just like that fucking hank williams song on there haunts me, dude. And then he tagged me and posted it and he's just like, went on to this big thread of just us, just horrified.
Speaker 1:And you know I actually when. I would hear cases and there is a song that I love that's tied to murder or sexual assault that it will haunt me too.
Speaker 2:Let's watch Radio Flyer later.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I want to yeah. We have to watch the Exorcist 3. I told you that it's very important for part two.
Speaker 2:We'll have time. We're going to chill, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I said, after his divorce from his mother and it was like the day that he was served the papers he broke into a woman's house that I don't know the name of I couldn't find it in any research and he did this in the middle of the night and raped this woman. Hmm, then he robbed a seven, 11, to which he received $11.
Speaker 2:Thank you, come again. That's all he got, he handed it back. But how pathetic you, I mean that's all they had their cash register. That's all you can do. They don't because, like I, want to rob a seven, 11 for $11.
Speaker 1:I worked in a convenience store as a teenager a late teenager and you don't know the password to the safe.
Speaker 2:You make deposits into the safe, but you don't know how to open it. And if you do a drop, it has to be approved.
Speaker 1:Only the managers do, and managers only work in the morning and I work night shift and a lot of them are electronic. Like you do a certain amount, you have to make a deposit. Yeah, yeah, or you get in trouble.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it keeps you safe and it keeps the store from being robbed.
Speaker 2:I've literally had to wait 30 minutes for the drop. When they hit the button, they're like hang on, I got to get some change. And then they hit it ain't coming out, no, it's timed, you can't get it right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah.
Speaker 1:So then he robbed a liquor store and got about $200.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit better now. You're getting better dude.
Speaker 1:So then he stole his dad's gun and went down to Montgomery, alabama, and robbed a Winn-Dixie Montgomery we're going to the Winn-Dixie, the fucking Winn-Dixie Lindsay, no, winn-dixie. But then he robbed another Winn-Dixie in Columbia, georgia, where he got around two grand from those combined.
Speaker 2:I'm moving closer to Gainesville at this point.
Speaker 1:Well, not yet. We still got a ways to go. I'm okay, All right. So for our listeners that do not know what a Winn-Dixie is, this is a corporate grocery store. This was all within the same month that he robbed both of those. So when he was caught he did say it's me, I've done it and I'm real sorry. Just imagine that in Louisiana accent, because I can't do a Louisiana accent real good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got a little, he's got a little.
Speaker 2:He's got a little bit of that Cajon.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Cajon yeah.
Speaker 1:So he was sentenced to six years in prison for these crimes and shortly after he was released to a work program he ran off after he told a guard he had to go shit in the woods y'all hang on a minute.
Speaker 2:I gotta go take a shit.
Speaker 1:Deuces literally caught and got another year tacked on to that sentence. Then he tried escaping again, again, but this time that guard he knew Taekwondo, oh, and kicked Danny so hard in the groin that he earned himself a torn testicle.
Speaker 2:Oh, Jesus Christ and that affected him forever. He hit him with that how you get.
Speaker 1:How you get. Yeah, he was transferred to.
Speaker 2:He's a horrible fucking criminal at this point already.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I mean sorry about your childhood dude. You could have turned it around. You were around so many amazing things and I guarantee there were people that were like this dude is fucked up. We're going to try to help him out. Pentecostal. Don't go to Pentecostal, I'm sorry, god, don't, don't go that way, don't go to Pentecostal. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:God don't, Don't go that way, don't go that way. So he was transferred again to Alabama to another work program and tried to escape again and went to a tent revival before he was caught. Well, I mean, that's the thing he had to go. Get him some Jesus.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to hack Pentecostals, but it's too charismatic for somebody that's this fucked up emotionally.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Religion didn't work for him.
Speaker 2:Pierre, we're not going to dance with snakes and hoot and holler. We're not going to do that.
Speaker 1:Well, I grew up with Pentecostal, but they were past the snake days by my point, but there's still a lot of hoot and hollering and speaking in tongues, not in the northeastern Kentucky.
Speaker 2:It's different. You an old podcast that we did previously where I talked about a dude died in one of the churches but anyhow, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he was actually after this, after this last time that he tried to escape, I think this was the third time he was evaluated mentally and this time he was found to have antisocial personality disorder, which makes a lot of sense going forward, and he had zero respect for his mother and, while loathing his father, he also idolized him, which is horrible.
Speaker 2:Of course he idolized him. He couldn't get anything positive from this dude you know as being a human-ass being and trying to grow up. And you can't get anything positive out of somebody, you're going to keep striving for it. That's just human nature.
Speaker 1:It's like when crackheads start that drug and they try to keep achieving that same high. They get from the first time and they'll never let you never achieve that again. I guess that's just a, for I've only heard this member for the dare program. It's like that. It's like you try, keep trying to achieve something that you're never gonna get your analogy there. Yes, for sure and it just brings you down and you've got this emotional brick wall Literally kills.
Speaker 2:Old Dumplin's over here. He's abusive. You're seeing it left and right all around and you're never getting anything positive. But you're a human-ass being, You're human.
Speaker 1:And instead of being like, okay, my dad's a piece of shit, he's hurting my mom, and instead of being I don't know, I don't know, oh, hands down, he was still supporting his dad trying to get some kind of recognition.
Speaker 2:Positive, Never did get it Right or he would probably. His dad would probably manipulate him, Because a lot of men that go through that.
Speaker 1:they will turn it around and be like I will never treat a woman the way that my dad treated my mom, but then you have it the other way around. Yeah, my mom but then you have it the other way around. Yeah, that's just. Like you know, I've heard some stories about men that grew up with an alcoholic father where they would say or one would not drink, you know, or maybe just drink sociably because of what their dad did, and then one would become an alcoholic because of the way they were raised.
Speaker 2:So it's just, it's so strange how it can go either way it's tough, you know, and especially if you have a war veteran at the same time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that mean Korean war was tough, vietnam war was tough, and I'm you know, I understand all that, I have a lot of that too, so I'm going to let you go.
Speaker 1:Well, when he was released in 1984, not having anywhere else to go, guess where he went back to.
Speaker 2:Home. Yeah, back to the biscuit, and this time Dumplings this time he took up jogging dressed as Rambo.
Speaker 1:So now your mental state has, and that's around the time where the Rambo movies were coming out right First blood. Yep. So he would also hang out with the neighborhood kids and teach them how to lift weights and sing some of the weird songs that he would write. The fucker became a role model, I mean, and that's just literally the epitome of the 80s.
Speaker 2:They were a little bit younger than him, right, he was hanging out with children.
Speaker 1:They were children, yeah, like actual children, and he was a grown man.
Speaker 2:I got something over you. He was born in 54.
Speaker 1:So by 84, 74, 84. He was 30 years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so these are children, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's I mean, because in the 80s nobody questioned anybody. You were hanging out with weirdos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had random uncles everywhere in the 80s. Yeah, this is Uncle fucking. You know, yeah, just hanging out with him he's not going to. We didn't do any research on old Uncle fucking Codsack over here just fucking around with our kids and teaching them all kind of fucked up shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's just danny, he's just the weirdo neighbor.
Speaker 2:I have trauma.
Speaker 1:God bless him, we're gonna pray for him on sunday I have personal trauma because of shit like I know yeah so he left shreveport for a while as a hitchhiker and he was picked up by a guy named Jake and Jake gave him a gun and told him to hold on to it. So they got pulled over and Jake had warrants, so Danny took off with his gun. It was time for more crime. He robbed a Kroger, which is also a corporate grocery store.
Speaker 2:He did this while wearing a mask If he knocks off a fucking Piggly, Wiggly.
Speaker 1:I swear to God there's no Piggly Wigglies in this story, but there will be in futures.
Speaker 2:Lansy, we wanted a Piggly Wiggly in this bitch.
Speaker 1:And then he broke into a house and ate some of their fruit and yogurt Just a little snacky snack and he made sure he left the banana peel and the empty container of yogurt when it could be seen, which is terrifying because a home invasion when they are comfortable enough to eat your food. And bold and they don't know what the fuck they're walking into. You could be standing there wielding a fucking machete and chop this fucking man's head off, and he don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:And 90% of the time when you're away and you come back like it's dark when you get back home.
Speaker 1:But the 80s is terrifying and this is one of the periods where they call that shit the good old days, and it may have been in your childhood, but I promise you, people like Danny Rollins was breaking into people's houses and eating their fruit and yogurt. And leaving it staged for you to see, so that he knew, so that you knew somebody was in your fucking house and ate your shit.
Speaker 1:This is bananas B-A-N-A-N-A-S. So he was caught for these crimes and this time he asked his lawyer, instead of going back to jail, if he could just get his hands cut off.
Speaker 2:Wow. He was just had no way out. He was just like I know that I'm going to be a shitty ass human being and I'm going to do everything I can to be that person. Jesus, be a shitty ass human being and I'm going to do everything I can to be that person. Jesus, yes, wow.
Speaker 1:So, of course, this didn't work. So before he was sentenced, he shaved off all of his hair, including his eyebrows, thinking this would clean up his image. But the judge said no, daniel, no, we're not going to cut off your hands, we're going to give you 15 years. Sorry, but he was paroled after three years and went back to his dad. His fucking dumpling.
Speaker 2:He went back to baby dumpling. Why am I back to biscuits on every time? Back to biscuits.
Speaker 1:And he became.
Speaker 2:Rambo, once again. Rambo, part two.
Speaker 1:So this time he went through a string of jobs like circle K, walmart and the sizzler. Do you remember the sizzler? Yeah, yeah, his longest job was working with an elect, his electrician friend, bunny Mills, and this was a female and they had a casual sexual relationship, like you know, it was like once a week, here you go and. But he was laid off from that job when work slowed down and then went on to work at poncho's mexican buffet, which sounds amazing right now.
Speaker 2:Mexican buffet here, right now. Right, where's mexican buffet here? We got a real mexican. Well, we got. Okay, we got alpacos, but you and I order from the menu because we love their menu items.
Speaker 1:We love their um, what's it fucking called Chili Rihanna?
Speaker 2:and the Mexican rice. But when I'm thinking of Mexican buffet like that, one's just like a tooth. I want like a fucking five-stand Mexican. I want like the full.
Speaker 1:Like Chinese buffets, where you get like five rows.
Speaker 2:What they have on our Mexican buffet here in town is not like real. It's.
Speaker 1:Tex-Mex yeah, it's American Mexican, it's it's. It's tex-mex, yeah, it's american mexican, and I don't want america, but that's what.
Speaker 2:that's what our townspeople yeah that's why you and I you know what, when, uh, I took my sister to cozumel one time I watched a woman with a monkey hanging on her shoulder make us some food one time and I thought oh, you and I have had amazing food out of this country in mexico. Yeah, we did we damn sure have, and it's way better too. I love diverse culturalistic food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the last time we were in Cozumel we got to eat tacos and taquitos by poolside. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That shit was delicious that was.
Speaker 1:The sauces. I could just drink them. I don't know what was in them.
Speaker 2:They were good. Fuck, that was a good time.
Speaker 1:and then when we went to cozumel, the time before when we went to uh passion island yeah, we had a buffet, and it was different food too.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like the regular you know it was authentic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he got fired not too long after being hired because of a scheduling misunderstanding when he was scheduled to work he didn't show up because he thought he was scheduled off on those days because back then you didn't have an app where you could just look at your schedule. It was posted in the break room. You know shit at my job that I mean, we just went to an app eight years ago and this was in the 80s, so before that it was posted in the break room.
Speaker 2:I had a bullet never really understood why, if you have a really solid ass employee, just give them a set schedule, you know, and you know they're going to be there. It makes your schedule way easier.
Speaker 1:Look how long it took me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I talked about it ever since we really like probably the first year you started dating.
Speaker 1:You and I started dating when I was six years in and I'm now 19 years in and I've only had a set schedule for eight. Eight out of 19 years. Yeah, Before that it was chaos, Okay. So he didn't show up and when he was let go he made a real threatening scene and after this he really snapped, Like he's already bad off, but now he's really mentally snapped.
Speaker 2:Turned it up, yeah.
Speaker 1:So now he started peeping again, but on entire families, and the Grissom family in Shreveport became his obsession.
Speaker 2:So he was making plans.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:He was coming up with scenarios in his head too.
Speaker 1:Now the Grissom family consisted of Tom, who was the father, his 24-year-old daughter, julie and his eight-year-old grandson, sean, which I believe was Julie's son. So we got Tom, julie and Sean Okay. So for weeks he would hide outside their house and watch them.
Speaker 2:Plotting.
Speaker 1:Two days after he was fired from the buffet, which he was already peeping before he got fired.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:But, like I said, he was just peeping at that point, but when he got fired he took his anger out on this family. You want to take your shot?
Speaker 2:Spill it, lindsay, and then I'll do my shoddy-boo-shoddy, All right.
Speaker 1:So he went to the field behind the Grissom house dressed in fatigues and waited for his opportunity. Fuck's sake, dressed in fatigues and waited for his opportunity. Fuck's sake, this one hurts. Okay, Tom had been barbecuing and the back door was open. Danny hopped the fence and just came into the house. Just walked right in, and with him he was wielding a military-grade knife, a K-bar fighting knife.
Speaker 2:The Rambo knife? Yes, that's the K-bar.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:It's been a very long time since I watched Rambo.
Speaker 1:It's the Rambo knife and a .38 revolver what. He ordered the family to lay on the floor and handcuffed Tom's hands behind his back and duct taped his mouth shut. He then tied Julie and Sean's hands behind their backs and taped their mouths shut and went back to. He was eight years old. He stabbed Sean in the back and left him to bleed out. He then took Julie to the bathroom. He raped her then took her to Tom's bedroom where he stabbed her three times in the back, killing her. He then washed her privates with vinegar to remove any of his DNA and left her spread out on the edge of the bed and fanned her hair out. Goodness yes, he used their washer and dryer to clean his clothes and removed all the duct tape from the now dead family, because I guess duct tape holds DNA too, and DNA wasn't. I'm going to have to go through the timeline, because I didn't think DNA was as advanced as we as it is now.
Speaker 2:In the 80s it was. I mean it advanced as we in the 80s. It was. I mean it was coming out in the 80s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean look at what happened to west netherlands, three boys in the 90s I know, okay, well, I'm taking a fucking shot yeah, I mean well, cheers, uh, everyone rest in peace, chris and family, yeah, yeah rambo Goodness. So they would not.
Speaker 2:He knew he was going to fucking do it.
Speaker 1:I know I'm holding back tears he wanted his way out. He knew that he had it in him, according to my opinion, if I'm five days away and my fucking emotions are so bad, he knew he had it in him and he knew that he was going to do it.
Speaker 2:He couldn't get his way out.
Speaker 1:No, they should have locked him, it just kept getting worse and worse.
Speaker 2:They were begging for it. Well, anyhow, shoddy was shoddy.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right, I'll take a sip. I can't do shots anymore, y'all.
Speaker 2:Mm-mm-mm. Love that crown apple, but damn Lansy.
Speaker 1:So they would not place him at this murder for quite some time.
Speaker 2:That was three people, Tom.
Speaker 1:Julie Sean.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's his first kills. Other than that, he's just been robbing.
Speaker 2:Robbing and stealing. Robbing and creeping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, robbing and creeping for sure. So initially he got away with this, with this murder. So he would start hanging out at the Superior Bar and Grill saying he was going to make it big at being a singer and songwriter, even though the manager of this establishment wouldn't even let him perform About a month later.
Speaker 2:You're not that good bro, I'm sorry, you're not that good.
Speaker 1:Well, in episode two I'm going to try my hardest to make, I'm going to play some of his musical, his musical.
Speaker 2:His jamming, his jams. Yes, I'm going to try my hardest to make. I'm going to play some of his musical um his musical his jamming, his jam.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm excited, no, I am, I mean I am. So about a month later Danny got a job as a telemarketer. But they didn't like his Rambo appearance and he would carry the same K bar knife that he had used to murder the Grissom family to fucking clock in and get on the phone every day and sell people. Fucking Bell South shit.
Speaker 2:Had it on his hip. He had it, he scrapped.
Speaker 3:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:K-Bar is like nine inches long out of nowhere, because Bell South was a thing.
Speaker 2:It's nine inches long I looked it up, I know. With the serrations on the back side, did it have the whole compass and everything?
Speaker 1:that's the bad part about um researching cases is sometimes you see images that you don't want to yeah, you're way ahead of me whenever you speak on these.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like I don't even know. You got all the visuals and you've seen them all yeah, this one's made me nauseous.
Speaker 1:Part two will make you like, when we get done, got all the visuals and you've seen them all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this one's made me nauseous. Part two will make you even when we get done with all this, and then you start posting pictures and I'm like all right, I'm done, so I can start looking too. Oh my God, and you've already got this in your brain right now, telling these stories right now.
Speaker 1:I know Right now, and I'm so Danny, and I'm so Danny made friends with a retired couple that he met at the Superior and did some electrical work for them and they started hanging out regularly. They liked his music and I don't know why, because I listened to some of it and they this is terrible. They hired him to sing at kids birthday parties, or it was just one in my notes. Yeah, they hired him to sing at a kids birthday party. And it's not kids music, man, it's weepy, bluegrass-y shit.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine I got to hear it. I know I can't imagine it.
Speaker 1:He kept his impulses at bay for a while.
Speaker 2:I'm on the point right now. I'm fucking him on everything from here on oh, yeah, fuck, yeah. I'm on the point right now.
Speaker 1:I'm fucking on everything from here on. Oh yeah, fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I said, we sympathize with the child, but fuck you grown ass, man when I said that was his turning point, did not turn. I get that, you're messed up. I get it, you missed it.
Speaker 1:Your bus is fucking left like I said, he was keeping his impulses at bay for a while, but then he got into a car accident where he received another head injury and almost died. He didn't wear his seatbelt and was driving in a freak storm. After he recovered, he began peeping, breaking and entering and raping more and more. So, before he makes his way down to Gainesville, he and his father got into a fight. First, his dad yelled at him to roll up his windows because it was raining outside, but Danny didn't see the need because he was under a carport.
Speaker 1:Danny put his foot up on the bench of the dining room table, which made me think of our tiny room table, because we have a bench and that's where we record, by the way. Think of our dining room table, because we have a bench and that's where we record, by the way, it's our dining room table. So Danny put his foot up on the bench to tie his shoe and this enraged James and both of them pulled out their guns. Ooh, james said he was going to kill the whole goddamn family once and for all.
Speaker 2:A showdown with dumplings.
Speaker 1:But blocked himself in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:A dumpling showdown Down with dumplings, but blocked himself in the kitchen.
Speaker 1:A dumpling showdown. Danny then kicked the door down, so I guess this was a kitchen that had a door, which was a thing in the 80s. Yeah, yeah, where you would have your kitchen separate from the Roseanne kitchen. The Roseanne kitchen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:So he locked himself in the kitchen. Danny kicked down that door and shot his father in the stomach and right between his eyes, Kicked door and shot his father in the stomach and right between his eyes, kicked him over and over, saying Lord, forgive me, Wow. Then Danny ran off, but his dad survived. What? Because evil don't die people.
Speaker 2:Evil, don't, don't fucking die. You ain't killing no dumplings.
Speaker 1:I'm going to a big old pot of chicken and dumplings after this we'll get done here, boy.
Speaker 2:Be just right as rain.
Speaker 1:You're gonna come right on back to home like you always do, boy but danny thought that he had killed him for sure duh, fuck's sake before he drifted out of town he would stop by the home of the couple that he had befriended at the superior bar and grill, and their names were steven and louisa klaus. So he was dressed in his rambo rig, carrying his k-bar knife and the gun. He just kind of busted right in and scaring the shit out of the couple because they were just sitting in bed watching tv. He points points the gun at them and said I just killed my dad and I need some money to skip town. Now I don't know how this happened, but they spent the next two hours trying to comfort him and calm him down. They did end up giving him $30 and some cookies and some fruit and sent him on his way. Danny said I'm so sorry for pulling the gun and getting mud on the carpet but I'm just here for the bananas.
Speaker 1:And he drifted right out of there. Wow, so then he went on to rob a grocery store in Kansas.
Speaker 2:It didn't say the name of the grocery store but he went on to rob a grocery store.
Speaker 1:Sorry. He went on to rob a grocery store in Kansas city and told the cashiers Thank you, god bless. Please pray for me, I need it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to Kansas City.
Speaker 1:Now he got around $1,600 that time and came back to the same store to rob it again, but didn't get anything that time. He kept robbing around that area. He robbed a couple more grocery stores and then a Taco Bell A Taco Bell, yeah. After that, after Taco Bell, he broke into the home of a man named Michael Kennedy, where he stole his ID. So then he made his way down to Sarasota, where he would use the name Michael Kennedy as an alias.
Speaker 2:Down to Sarasota.
Speaker 1:Yes, use the name Michael Kennedy as an alias. Down to Sarasota, he would claim to whoever was listening that he was a Vietnam War veteran. He owned a trucking company in Kansas City and had just sold one of his songs for $10,000. About a week before the tragedies that would happen in Gainesville, he sat down with a tape recorder and recorded a message to his family and police, telling them what he was about to do and apologizing in advance and telling his family how great they were. He told his dad, who he actually thought was dead by his own hand, what a great man he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he looked up to him. Baby, Dumplin you a good man, even though he had a throwdown.
Speaker 1:You tried, you tried. You raised me right, james, baby Dumplin'.
Speaker 2:What is in your head right now? Baby Billy, baby Billy.
Speaker 1:Uncle, baby Billy, what's it called? Don't go misbehaving.
Speaker 2:I'm still on, man on the run.
Speaker 3:I'm a man on the run.
Speaker 1:Well, the reason why I wanted to do this right after Eileen Wardos is because it all happened around the same time.
Speaker 2:And he was a drifter too. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there'll be some other things that tie in to the same thing. Drifter too, yeah, yeah, and there'll be some other things that tie in to the same thing. But on the tape recorder he recorded all the songs that he had written. All of them Then he pawned Was one of them called Dumplin'.
Speaker 2:No, oh shit, I would have named one of them. Here's your baby dumpling. We're going to fire this one off.
Speaker 1:He then pawns his guitar and purchases a 9mm semi-automatic handgun.
Speaker 2:So this is the end of his music career. Right now, he's done Not really. Oh.
Speaker 1:So he left Sarasota and headed on up to Gainesville.
Speaker 2:Dumpling's going to be a number one hit. I guarantee it.
Speaker 1:And that's where we'll stop for today.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're right there.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. And even though this has been a horrible ride thus far, it gets so much worse.
Speaker 2:I've been plugging in right in the middle of all her shit today and you've been doing good. That's awesome story. Horrific story, this half. Awesomely horrific, awesomely horrific. Yes, that's the first half.
Speaker 1:That's the first half. Next week we'll back up in Gainesville.
Speaker 2:That one really should have been a four-shotter for me. That's tough. Oh, rambo Fucking Rambo. Oh, rambo, rambo, danny Rowland, rambo, danny Rowland. Now he's in Gainesville, so we're gonna do that shit. Next time we're gonna pick back up in Gainesville.
Speaker 1:Wow, and remember it's at the start of the school year, but I'll mention that again. That's where I'm gonna start it off, right when he gets to Gainesville, right, right when he gets to Gainesville, right?
Speaker 2:Wow, goodness. I want to talk about music.
Speaker 1:Yes, what band are you plugging today?
Speaker 2:I have been planning this for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, let me get my Instagram pulled up. You're good, you're good.
Speaker 2:Lindsay, you're good you. I mean you can follow him if you want to, but you probably already are. Oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, reckless Giants. Yay, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm so excited. I've been reaching out.
Speaker 1:I was just talking to you about that last night. Yeah, I was pissed.
Speaker 2:I was like why haven't you applied for our complete billboard? But I was already ahead of you. I've been reaching out to bands all over the world.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I should have already gotten a clue, because my looks, you know how I look, but I've been reaching out all over the the globe. Honestly, I love music. I want to hear it all. I want to hear it all so I can always fall back on my boys you know jeremy and the guys down there and I have fun. Yeah, I even work with jeremy. You know he works um at a place that I buy parts from, so it's really cool. It's really cool, and I think he moved to gainesville now. Oh, okay, yeah, so he's. So he's doing parts, I think, in Gainesville or Ocala, I don't remember which one, so it might be relevant.
Speaker 1:And that's our friend Ollie's favorite local band too, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a really cool punk rock group. So Reckless Giants. They're badass and I want to share them. And he gave a one of the new songs that we can play. Yeah, so if you're in the gainesville north florida area, check them out. They're gonna be playing swamp fest 17 february 22nd, so they'll be on that bill. Are we gonna go? I don't know. It's february the 22nd. I don't know what we're doing. What we're doing, I don't know.
Speaker 1:22nd fe 20 seconds we'll already be over there. We might as well, but we gotta record uh, we might record there.
Speaker 2:Okay, we can do it part two in gainesville wouldn't that be cool? In gainesville swamp fest yeah, that's gonna be cool maybe we can think that out yeah, we should. We should check it out honestly. So they're going to be playing there and I want to. I want to share one of their songs with the crew the everybody. So check this band out, reckless giants. This song is called I'm so punk, so here we go.
Speaker 3:I mean so?
Speaker 1:fucking badass. I'm excited, so fucking badass.
Speaker 3:I'm excited. I woke up late. Into another haze. I put my vest on in my favorite jeans. I feel so punk and now I'm in a rage and nothing keeps me down. I tried to run, but I can never hide. I have the worst, but still I just won't die. With all the ways that I am dead inside, I still feel just alright. I feel so punk and now I'm in a rage at all. Don't give a shit about the world today, go. I woke up late into another haze. I put my vest on and my favorite shade. I feel so fucking. Now I'm in a rage and nothing keeps me down. I try to run, but I can never hide. I'm still the worst, but I just want to die Without a reason. I am dead inside. I still feel just alright. Oh, I feel so broken now I'm in a rage and oh, don't give a shit about the world today, cause Today, go. Oh, I feel so fucking now I'm in a rage and oh, don't give a shit about the world today, go oh yeah, I was over here headbanging.
Speaker 2:You was getting with it, I was jamming Great job yeah. Phenomenal Gainesville band yeah.
Speaker 1:Gainesville band yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Gainesville punk, Love it. Doesn't it sound almost like Tampa punk too? And it's 100% Gainesville punk for sure. Phenomenal job.
Speaker 1:Very good job and they put on a great show. They put on you know what. We've seen them a few times Punk and metal. Are they still doing the flamingos? Because I like the flamingos.
Speaker 2:I didn't see it on the music video. I think that was at High Dive. They did the video there. Okay, but it's no longer. I know. Anyhow, check out Reckless Giants, please do. Metal and punk goes together. Will we play in Lake City and he's very active on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Or Jeremy is is uh, with the band and on tiktok, yeah, I follow, they're always doing. Yeah, they, they're getting the recognition but they deserve more. You know, yeah, and when, whenever I put on a show I love I love putting on punk and metal shows. Yes, I love it and I'm calling them dude. The last time we played at hangar we did a punk and metal night and it went over real
Speaker 1:good because we love dude, it was packed. Remember how packed it was? We were shocked, shocked. I did more sales because I'm the band mom, I'm the March girl 450.
Speaker 2:We sold that night yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm the March girl and we did some sales that night.
Speaker 2:We did some good sales For a local band. That's phenomenal If you're selling 450, $500 a night us. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I say, like I'm a part of the band for most of our players.
Speaker 2:It's us. You're that much of a part of it. Whenever it comes to you rocking the merch table, I know.
Speaker 1:But I contribute nothing to the band other than showing up looking cute and selling merch you are?
Speaker 2:You are Always on fire. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, darling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, check them out though. Reckless Giants, they're on everything.
Speaker 1:Yes, let me put on my fishnets and vans for Reckless Giants next weekend.
Speaker 2:Let's work it out there we go. Yeah, feb 22nd yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got to do lunch with the parents.
Speaker 2:We were already going to go to.
Speaker 1:Gainesville and take a picture of the mural for our listeners.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so we'll be down work it out.
Speaker 1:We'll see what we can do.
Speaker 2:I don't know, we'll check it out. Yeah, we'll check it out.
Speaker 1:Message Jeremy and see if it's in all ages Cause Silas loves him. Some shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he hasn't been to one in a while either. Yeah, and we'll let them know that they're on the pod now, so we will be tagging you guys on Friday. Yep, right before the show Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. My cools suck, my cools aren't cool.
Speaker 1:You gotta do it. It was cool, cool, cool, cool, cool cool, cool, I can't, I can't. I can't Just forget the L.
Speaker 2:Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool cool.
