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EPISODE 23: The Dooms-Daybells
Hey, Jesse.
Speaker 2:Hello, happy Friday, lindsay. Happy Friday yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess we should probably like harmonize that one time. I don't know how to do it, how do, you do it? How do you do it? Happy Friday, lindsay. I don't know. I was trying to meet it. How you doing over there, what you drinking, what are you doing? Tell?
Speaker 1:me about it. Let's do this. Holy shit, we're diet drinking bitches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not even. It's like 9 something.
Speaker 1:No, babe, it's 1035.
Speaker 2:Is it yeah, oh 1025. It feels like 9 something.
Speaker 1:Jesse's already been at work and I have been up most of the morning with excruciating pain from the lovely, lovely, uh, the red lady. Yeah and um. So I've had some ibuprofen, some Midol, a half of a garden gummy.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're partying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now we're drinking some Bailey's with coffee. Jesse brought home McDonald's. Thank you, boo Yay, and we're having a Bloody Mary, yay.
Speaker 2:With Hal Patter's vodka.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Hal Patter's vodka. Yeah, Zing zing Bloody Mary, Some pickled green beans from the St Augustine Distillery and our sourdough starter pickle juice.
Speaker 2:Our sourdough starter. It's got everything in it. Everything in it. I swear to God you could run a Buick on that thing.
Speaker 1:Everything pickled in our fridge.
Speaker 2:You got a 1973 Buick. We can run it with our sourdough starter.
Speaker 1:Jalapeno juice, pepperoncino juice, banana, pepper juice, pickle juice yes, pickled tomato juice, pickled pepper juice. Pickle juice yes, Pickled tomato juice pickled oprah juice. All of it.
Speaker 2:It's got all the juices.
Speaker 1:And I do recommend because this Bloody Mary is fire.
Speaker 2:It is good, it's really good, it is good.
Speaker 1:The swizzle stick I made you help me find did the trick.
Speaker 2:It helped it. It made it mixed together way better.
Speaker 1:That was the trick. Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:It's all the love that comes into it, you know. And she's like why haven't you used all the stuff that I bought you to do these cool drinks with? And I was like uh-huh.
Speaker 4:Okay, so later on we're going to do that, yeah, the bourbon smoker.
Speaker 2:And you got me for Christmas. Yes, we're going to do brats and bourbon brats and bourbon. Yeah, what are we talking about? What are we drinking about?
Speaker 1:so we're talking about um some doomsday shit today doomsday.
Speaker 2:So is it like the end of the world, type shit and, believe it or not, it's really recent.
Speaker 1:It's more recent than casey anthony. Of Casey Anthony. After I made a Tik TOK with our episode on Casey Anthony with the song of the week from profits of demise. Um, this morning I woke up and in my algorithm was a female Um, her Tik TOK handle is just mom's drink who was on the cell block with Casey and said that she admitted to her crime.
Speaker 2:They need to retry her ass.
Speaker 1:And well, they can't double jeopardy. But now, since she has put those tech talks out, she posted followup videos, for Casey Anthony is like after her, so of course she should be.
Speaker 2:She's trying to keep her shit. She is definitely. I have not met anybody that I've talked to about this. She's definitely guilty.
Speaker 1:She does have advocators, but they don't say that she did not commit the crime. They think that it was an accidental type thing or either that George did it.
Speaker 2:Somebody in that household killed that baby.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do agree. Yeah, but I'm leaning more towards her. I don't know. Because there was decomposition in that car for a reason.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You can't deny that at all. You cannot deny that that is insane. There's no damn way around that, so that happened Anyhow. Yes.
Speaker 1:So if you want to listen to that one, it is episode 22. This is episode 23. You want to cue that intro?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to do that. Happy Friday everybody, we we we Happy. Friday everybody Bye Wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee it's the gummy and the baileys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah. So yeah, I'm not ready for you, because you told me that this shit was going to be worse than the last one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so I'm not ready one more thing, um, I want to talk about from a previous case. We covered Gabby Petito in episode 21. Yeah, and her father is starting a series called Faces of the Missing, which will bring awareness to more missing cases that do not get the recognition that they deserve.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I'm trying to reach out to people like that as well, like we can put our content on things just like that to help them out, you know, and and if we can share what we got going on, it's just all community networking. Yes.
Speaker 1:So if you're new here, this is episode 23. And what we do is we have a drink, talk about true crime and then plug a band that we are digging and we think you should listen to as well yeah and I found so many cool new bands.
Speaker 2:I can't wait. I got some cool summer bands coming summer can't wait, but we gotta get through spring first yeah, I mean it's florida, we'll be in summer like tomorrow it's actually cold right now.
Speaker 1:I had to turn on the heater today it's beautiful out right now, but I mean, I was freezing this morning. Landon was getting onto me yesterday because he woke up. He's like mom, it's 65 degrees in the house, but I was having a perimenopause episode and I didn't feel the chill. Today I felt the chill.
Speaker 2:So from now on, perimenopause.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna be like there you go, so I have a question for you sorry from perry, that's it's a little different.
Speaker 2:It's like is that it? I don't know whatever. So what was you saying, sorry?
Speaker 1:I have a question for you. You got a question for me what made you feel old this week?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, what made me feel old this week. This week I feel old. It's it's more supplement stuff because I changed. I changed what I was doing versus what I'm doing now, like I'm doing like apple cider vinegar, all the good health stuff and all that, but I got off all the sea moss, shilajit and I don't know. It's like an energy drop still.
Speaker 1:I'm just constant Maybe you need to stick with this. Well, you do need to take a month off. Yeah, so I have to do that with ashwagandha, because they recommend that you take ashwagandha for a month and then take six weeks off.
Speaker 2:Other than that there are no ailments or nothing other than just tired old man shit. You know, I mean no Anthony's or nothing. You want to hear all mine? Yeah, go ahead with your entourage. Lindsay has an entourage, here she goes.
Speaker 1:I broke my toe last Saturday and I have stubbed it 950 billion times since then. That sucks so bad, then, while I'm attempting to work out with a bad toe, the other day my hand tendinitis flared up, so like mid pushup.
Speaker 2:you're like yeah, you fell over Pretty much.
Speaker 1:It was like a fainting goat situation, with a screen that screamed and fainted. Yeah, um.
Speaker 2:I can't even do that.
Speaker 1:That I can't even all the perimenopausal symptoms this week where I am going to sleep freezing and waking up sweating, and all the perimenopausal symptoms this week where I am going to sleep freezing and waking up sweating. And then it was, you know, almost that time of the month as well. So I've just been blah. I don't even know how I got through the week, but so yeah. I feel sorry for you. Taking about.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry that you're old.
Speaker 1:That you're older than me.
Speaker 2:I am older than you, at least some old ass people.
Speaker 1:Not even a full year older than me.
Speaker 2:No, 40's great, I'm not bitching. Is this a chance to bitch about saying that you're old? This segment here, I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying it's been rough.
Speaker 2:It's been rough. Okay.
Speaker 1:No, I mean old and no, I'm just saying it's been a rough week. It's been a rough week.
Speaker 2:Okay, it was a rough week. No, I mean old and tired. I guess that's about me. Most of the time, though, hell I'm.
Speaker 1:And you know what, stephen, one of the times that I stubbed my toe was so stupid. I was putting on my jeans and sometimes, you know, females' jeans are a little different. You know jeans are a little different. You know they're a little snugger when you get them on. But they, you know they kind of form and fit your body after you get them on. So you have to kick out a little bit.
Speaker 2:I kicked the bed frame with the bad toe another one never done that fucking another one son of a bitch you know, I broke my toe too, like a month before this I know you had like a whole.
Speaker 1:I broke two. Yeah, I kicked the shit out of the grill. No, I kicked the shit out of the bottom of that grill like a month before this, I know.
Speaker 4:You had like a whole string of bruises and you don't even know how. No, I kicked the shit out of the bottom of that grill where that wheel is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're doing brats later. I can't wait, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't kick the grill.
Speaker 2:I will not kick the grill, but go ahead. Lindsay Fire, this bitch off.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Are you, yeah, are you ready?
Speaker 1:uh, no, I'm not ready, but I'm just saying you should strap in, strapping on. Here we go, all right. Laurie cox, yates la joia, ryan valo daybell is that one name? That is one fucking name was born in june of 1973 to Janice and Barry Cox. She had two sisters, Summer and Stacy, and two brothers, Adam and Alex.
Speaker 2:And every name in the whole damn county for one name.
Speaker 1:Well, that will become clear into the story. And Alex, he will become a huge part of the story, but we'll get into him a little later. Her family lived in SoCal and she grew up in the LDS community. This is the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints. Latter-day Saints, yeah or also the Mormon Mormon Church. Okay.
Speaker 1:Lori was a cheerleader and is what you would kind of call an introverted extrovert, meaning she was quiet unless she knew you and were in her friend group. Her group says that she was funny and loved to make people laugh. Wow.
Speaker 2:So doubling up.
Speaker 1:I've never been that dedicated to anything in my life, all the Jesus that she ever needed. She planned on attending Brigham Young University after graduation this was in 1992, but she does not end up attending. She instead marries her first husband, Nelson Yates, a year after high school in 1992. That marriage dissolved very quickly and she moves on to husband number two, William LaGioia, and has a son with that husband named Colby.
Speaker 2:Now didn't Mormons like have a bunch of wives or something?
Speaker 1:Well, that depended on what chapter you were in.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And it depended on your leader, and because we're going to do a whole Mormon deep dive in the future, because there's a lot of true crime involved just in that community alone. Wow, yes, so we're going to do explain all of that and one podcast that I do I'm going to recommend at the end because they explain a little bit more in depth into the Mormon beliefs in this particular case and that was the created religion basically in the 1800s Right.
Speaker 1:Well, that marriage didn't last long either, and in 2001, she is on to husband number three, joseph Ryan, and in 2002, joe and Lori bring their daughter, tylee Ryan, into the world. Also around this time, I'm guessing she snapped right back after that pregnancy, lori was in the beauty pageant circuit. You're beautiful. She competed in the Miss Texas pageant but she did lose. And when she was asked about what makes her tick, she says being a good mom and a hard worker and she said she was basically a ticking time bomb, which, remember that later on, okay, she was also a contestant on the famous game show Will of Fortune. Yay, can I buy a vowel?
Speaker 2:No, pat, you get no vowels. Well, her name has all the vowels it does.
Speaker 1:And she won $17,000. Wow. In that competition.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:Now, apparently, being on this show was a prophecy from God himself. Yes, she told her husband that God told her she would be on the show and would win.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Now, her and Joe's marriage did not last long after this and they would divorce in 2004.
Speaker 2:Wow, she was a divine being now.
Speaker 1:Well, not yet.
Speaker 2:Well, might as well be because God told her to do that and it worked out.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I grew up in a lot more church than you did, and this was a conversation that was just very common, where people would say God spoke to me about this, god spoke to me about that, god told me this, god told me that yeah, reaching for miracles, if you are not brought up.
Speaker 1:in that it does sound strange, but to me, me it's like oh, it's another person saying god told him to do something, you know? Yeah, now a custody battle of tylee would go on for 12 years. The court order would have specific days that each would have tylee and he would have her for two weeks over the summer and had to live within 100 miles of each other. So they had been living in Texas, of course. But after the divorce, lori decides to move to Arizona, so Joe had to move as well. That's part of the divorce agreement. In 2006, lori moves on to husband number four, named Charles Vallow.
Speaker 2:Damn, she racking them up.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Get them girl, get them girl.
Speaker 1:Now, this one would last for about 10 years.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But now they're in Arizona. You know she's married Charles and Joe had to move to Arizona as well, but Lori's not meeting her requirements. So Joe files a motion against Lori saying that she is not meeting the visitation court order and he does not see Tylee for all of August in 2006.
Speaker 2:And he had moved over there. So he could be closer to her to help them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's doing everything.
Speaker 2:The co-dad shit. But hold on, we're going to, we're doing everything, the co-dad shit.
Speaker 1:Hold on, we're going to, we're going to um our co-parenting shit. He's already.
Speaker 2:I feel like he's full dad right now. Good.
Speaker 1:So Joe wanted her to be arrested. Uh, he wanted her to be arrested, fined and to pay for his legal fees. Lori says that she would choose death over letting Joe see her daughter, because she was saying that Joe was molesting her children Really. And after this the court does demand that she go under psychiatric evaluation, Even though Colby and Tylee would say that Joe was sexually and physically abusing them.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:It is speculated that Lori planted it in their brain.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Now on one hand, Either way. If the abuse allegations are true, her saying I would choose death before letting him see my kids is understandable. Yeah. But if they aren't, she is. She's looking like a very unwell person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and planting shit into your kids is abuse as it is. You know you're planting that image into them and eventually they'll actually think that that shit's really happening.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:That's just as bad. Don't plant shit.
Speaker 1:No, in August 2007,. Joe was able to see Tylee again and he is going to the agreed upon drop off spot to return Tylee again. And he is going to the agreed-upon drop-off spot to return Tylee home. While walking back to his car, lori's brother, alex Cox, appears and says hey, we need to talk. Then Alex pulls out a taser and tases Joe right in the chest twice. A witness intervenes and calls the police. There is a more detailed podcast on this case that I do recommend, done by the last podcast on the left. They have a four parter on this case and they go into a lot of detail about the Cox family, but I'm going to give just a little snippet. Um, alex and Lori had a very strange and a bit of a sexual relationship. In fact, the entire Cox family were just a little too touchy feely with each other.
Speaker 2:So she was just all in that. Yes, and, like I said, I think it's part one.
Speaker 1:I think it's part one of their four part series on this case that they do go into depth into the Cox family.
Speaker 2:So I do recommend that podcast, and then she's trying to bestow that same kind of bullshit and drama on her own kids too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because of her past shit. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking but Alex would do anything for Lori. We'll just put it that way. Okay, there will be more examples of that to come. Alex would serve 90 days of this because of this incident and while he was locked up, he would send letters to a friend requesting that they send pictures of Joe because his fellow inmates would love to hang out with him sometime. Now, remember, there are sexual and physical abuse allegations against a minor child.
Speaker 2:It's all over the place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's threatening, joe.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Pretty much is what he's wanting to do, and he's doing it beyond the jail, but he was only there for 90 days. I mean, I wouldn't even wrote a letter in three months, you know no. I guess three months does seem probably like a long time.
Speaker 2:I mean well, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:Now Joe would suffer from heart issues from this attack for the rest of his life, but that wouldn't be for very much longer. So fast forward to 2018. Timeline's going to jump back and forth. Just stay with me, okay. Okay. So fast forward to 2018. Joe Ryan passes away from a I'm doing quotation marks heart attack.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And his body wasn't discovered until a wellness check was done. A week later A neighbor smelled. A neighbor it was actually the neighbor's dog smelled a foul smell coming from the house and it was like scratching the door. So the neighbor was like going to get her dog and she smelled it too. So she called. She called it in. Lori would refuse to claim the body and didn't tell anyone in his family for a while. His sister, annie, would find out over a month later that no one had claimed his body. Now Annie's relationship with Joe had been strained because she was visiting one day and there was a leak in the roof and she said Joe just lost his shit. Like was a leak in the roof and she said Joe just lost his shit Like. I heard this in an interview. Yeah, and it was yeah.
Speaker 1:And Joe lost his shit. She thinks it was because he was kind of embarrassed. They had just bought the house and here it was leaking, but it kind of it just made her not really want to be around him anymore. So Annie did not have that relationship with Joe anymore and she really hadn't seen the family since that incident, which was about 10 years prior to this happening.
Speaker 1:So Annie goes out to visit Tylee because that is her niece you know and of course Lori is there and she says Lori was acting very strange and Lori and Tylee's relationship is strained and there was just bad vibes all around See, lori had become obsessed with the end of times and had become a very unhinged doomsday prepper. Y'all better be good. Jesus is coming. I ain't kidding you, and it's all she talks about.
Speaker 2:She even talks about Dude. It's all she talked about. She even talked about dude. It's gonna happen in it. Wait and shit ain't happened.
Speaker 1:Yet she even talked about getting in the car with her kids and driving off a cliff to save them from tribulation now our our whole perspective on that and lindsey agrees.
Speaker 2:It's happened so many times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we think the end of the world has happened several times, in different civilizations, different spots in the world.
Speaker 2:It's done, happened. So if it's going to happen, it probably happened to them in this story, but I don't know yet.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a little interesting thing that will come up, but, like we were talking about the other night, we're watching 1923 right now and it portrays a lot of what the Native Americans went through under Catholic abuse. And to me, our descendants coming over from Europe and interrupting their whole life was the end of the Native American world. Yeah, because they knew it.
Speaker 2:That was their tribulation. They went through it Exactly it happened for them and it knew it. That was their tribulation, they went through it, exactly it happened for them and it's happened.
Speaker 1:It's just happened in several different civilizations. It happened for the Mayans.
Speaker 2:It happened for Egyptians, it happened For Rome, for Romanians, it happened in Pompeii.
Speaker 1:It happened in the Tower of Babel. Yeah, all that.
Speaker 2:It's all happened everywhere and that was their end of times. It really does China?
Speaker 1:It is true, there was an end of the world for them. Yeah, japan took it over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it happened.
Speaker 1:And us when we bombed Japan.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know it was the end, for at that time, everything changed from then on right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But anyhow, like I said, I'm going to repeat what she told Annie. She talked about getting in the car with her kids and driving off the cliff to save them from tribulation, and in my opinion, that's when DCF would have gotten a little tip from me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't need kids around you, if you think you're going to commit suicide, to go to heaven? Is that what she was thinking? Pretty much.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go through tribulation but we she wants.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're close enough with god. We can just go ahead and kill ourselves now and we'll be all right.
Speaker 1:They got it figured out over there, right shit. She also says to annie, to her face, even though this is her brother, that the world was better off without joe in it. Like I said, if the allegations against him were true, maybe I agree, but that was for the court to decide. Yeah, and I'm not saying that the court always does 100% good job.
Speaker 2:Fuck no.
Speaker 1:We've dealt with situations.
Speaker 2:Last week. Sons of bitches.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, but I'm just saying. I mean, there was a 12 year custody battle and you would think that in that time period it would be determined by them. If these allegations were true, if he was a shitty human being.
Speaker 2:He would have stepped out and been like wait a minute, I'm going to, I'm going to wind up getting fucked up in some bullshit that I've done. He would have stepped out. You know what I'm saying. He wouldn't have followed and pursued if he was being shitty to them kids. He'd have been like I better get out because she's going to put me in prison over what's really happened.
Speaker 1:And I don't want to go either way on that because, as an adult, colby is still saying that those things were true, but we'll move on from that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get that too. Yeah, but human nature is still showing. He's pursuing, trying to stay. He ain't trying to just stay with his kids so he can keep doing what he's being accused of, right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So Annie was horrified over all of this, to say the least, and she cut off all contact again. She was done so before Joe had expired. He and Lori, you know they had that long ass custody battle. Before Joe had expired. He and Lori, you know they had that long ass custody battle. And while her current husband, charles, was also having a custody battle with his ex-wife Cheryl, they had two boys together and honestly this just sounds like constant turmoil in both households. Yeah, I mean, that's custody battles, just horrible. We went through it. The judge actually combined both cases so that all could meet in the same day knock it all out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the family bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean that's probably smart, I mean it probably saved both sides a lot of money and a lot of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right so, cheryl, she started catching on to laurie's weird in time obsessions about a year into laurie and charles marriage, and that was around 2007. And there was even a court order at some point to put cameras in Lori and Charles's residence because of strange behavior, but no footage was ever found to be incriminating from that. Now Charles owned a successful investment company and was out of town quite a bit. So some of the weekends he was supposed to spend with his kids, he and was out of town quite a bit. So some of the weekends he was supposed to spend with his kids he would be out of town, but the kids would stay with Lori, but they would say that she wasn't very involved with them. And this is all while they were still living in Texas before Arizona.
Speaker 1:Back to when Lori and Charles moved to Arizona, they adopted a son named JJ. Jj belonged to his great niece and she had been unable to care for him. So his sister, kay, who was the grandmother, did for a while, but JJ had severe autism and the business her and her husband owned together did not permit them to give JJ the care that he required. It's tough.
Speaker 1:So they asked Charles and Lori if they could care for him, because Lori Charles worked, but Lori was a stay at home mom so she had time. She had previously been a hairdresser and she even had like a small one built into her home, but it wasn't a full time thing. So even if she had did have hair to do that day, she was still at home.
Speaker 2:Right A little side hustle.
Speaker 1:So they say yes and they legally adopt him. Now, at this point, everything seems great. Jj fit right in with the family. Colby and Tylee loved him, like love loved him, and the Vallows got a monthly check for his care and Charles got him a service dog as well. So the Fallows then make the decision to move from Arizona to Hawaii. And everyone I mean who doesn't love Hawaii?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to go, I want to go. Right.
Speaker 1:So they moved to Kauai.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And everyone was thriving. Along with Charles Investment Company, they had a little side business which was like a juice bar, because who doesn't want to go to a juice bar in Hawaii? I mean because it's like major, major tourist attraction. So that was probably banking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah Good, it sounds like they were getting set up though.
Speaker 1:Well, remember I told you that Lori was a devout member of the LDS church, so when her and Charles got married, he converted from Catholicism to Latter-day.
Speaker 2:Saints, latter-day Saints, yeah.
Speaker 1:And they did find an LDS church to attend in Hawaii. Now it's 2018, the year that Joe would pass away. They would move back to Arizona because it was just better for them to be there due to Charles Investment Company. Okay, so they're moving around a little bit.
Speaker 2:They're moving around. There's a lot of shit, turmoil and things going on, and just Now this is when laurie's mental health would really become questionable.
Speaker 1:Okay, she tells charles that she had been reincarnated and had been sent by god to spread the word of the second coming of christ. You know that old chestnut like a million people haven't already said that and she believed that the end of the world was going to happen on July 22nd 2020.
Speaker 2:See I know that that shit was going to fucking transpire. I know that shit was going to happen. I knew it. I knew it and I was calling that shit earlier. I knew it and I'm fired up now.
Speaker 1:What was crazy about the crazy bitch was 2020 was kind of the end of the fucking world covid 19.
Speaker 2:I blow the breath of god on you.
Speaker 1:That shit was so funny to me the tiktoks were the shit that came out of that the chick with her lashes. And then what was the other one?
Speaker 2:the fucking the wig, the fucking wig. And then he's all like and this shit's flying dude if you have not seen those, just google, google that.
Speaker 1:You know it was a crazy time. I mean, we had Murder Hornets, COVID-19, the Tiger King.
Speaker 2:Maybe for Latter Day Saints. That was it. Do you remember when?
Speaker 1:we all got a stimulus check and we were all simultaneously watching the Tiger King together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as a nation or as a globe? Yeah, carole Baskins, at beach Fucking beach Car. Carol Baskins, that bitch.
Speaker 1:Carol Baskins Killed her husband, whacked him. Didn't happen, it was happening, carol.
Speaker 2:Baskins.
Speaker 1:But you know what, lori? We're still here, girl, we're in 2025. We didn't go nowhere Our world did change.
Speaker 2:But I mean, I want to find out.
Speaker 1:But your timeline was off because the world shut down in March and you predicted June. So fuck you, Lori.
Speaker 2:She was off. She was off, but now.
Speaker 1:And it wasn't actually her prediction, her reincarnation.
Speaker 2:Did her fucking reincarnation do anything good for humanity as far as her religion?
Speaker 1:You're about to find out.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay as far as her religion.
Speaker 1:You're about to find out, okay, okay. So she also says that she is one of the 144,000 that will be saved. She told Charles that there was an evil demon living in his body, named Ned Schneider.
Speaker 2:Ooh, Schneebly.
Speaker 1:Ned.
Speaker 2:Schneebly Ned.
Speaker 1:Schneebly, that's who I thought of immediately.
Speaker 2:You swear to, god Swear to.
Speaker 1:God. School of. Rock.
Speaker 2:Schneebly Schneebly, not Rob Schneider, but Ned Schneebly. It's both it's both Rob.
Speaker 1:So the demon had a name, and its name was Ned Schneider.
Speaker 2:Ned Schneider. And she would tell others that she was waiting for a call any day that he would be dead.
Speaker 1:Now, Jesse, what would you say if I came to you with this the power of Christ compels you.
Speaker 2:Would you be exercising the shit out of me Something? Hang on, let me stir up this Bloody Mary. I have exercised the demons. I'm getting off in this Bloody Mary now because we're having some fucking fun right now. I haven't now Because there is some bullshit fitting to happen.
Speaker 1:I'm eating one of my pickle green beans.
Speaker 2:Well, cheers Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Here's a little MSR for you guys.
Speaker 2:Crunchy. Is that you exercising the Schneider demon there? Mm-hmm, this Bloody Mary, better exercise something. All right lady. This bloody Mary, better exercise something. All right lady.
Speaker 1:But seriously, that's all that I mean. Like, honestly, think about it real hard. If I came to you and said that I was one of the chosen 144,000 to be saved, God had appointed me as a disciple to spread the word of his second coming and that you were now a demon, what would you, honestly, what would be your feelings All jokes aside like what would your honest?
Speaker 2:I mean you hit me with a bullshit stick at that moment I'm going to look at you like you're fucking shot out. I'm going to ask for you to affirm that in some kind of way, because I would want to know why even if we were of the same faith even if we were of the same faith, Even if we were both into church and we're both hearing the same teachings of this shit week after week. Yeah, but at this moment I've stepped away from charismatic religion to begin with.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I'm just saying, but think like Charles, Okay.
Speaker 2:God why you got to put me there. I don't know how to do that, because I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've been raised that way and I still think that if somebody approached me with that, I would think that they're a crazy, motherfucker bullshit, just like charles did.
Speaker 2:Okay now, charles. I mean, you would have just been like are you fucking kidding me right now?
Speaker 1:yeah, no matter what I have ever believed in my life, and I I mean I was raised from a very small child and hearing this same type of shit every week, and I would still look at somebody and and probably call help service from the age of about 10, you started really seeing that I started seeing the other side like, oh, this is bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm saying you age about 10, you're probably actually about 13 there was this okay?
Speaker 1:I'll talk about it some other time, maybe when we're covering the end of world theories that we have what, what, a lot of what really broke me to think. This is wild, this is nuts.
Speaker 2:It's not human. It's not human to be you kind of feel like you're, you're being brainwashed a little bit right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So now, charles, he loved Lori so much, but now he was scared for his life and he filed for divorce in 2019. Apparently, lori also told him that she was going to kill him and that angels would dispose of his body and she would get away with it.
Speaker 2:You better fucking run, dude.
Speaker 1:Holy shit.
Speaker 2:Jesus got it coming for you ain't shitting you Now.
Speaker 1:Lori leaves at this time while they're separated. Give the plant some laughs. She thinks that she can just kill this dude and angels are going to dispose.
Speaker 2:Oh, it gets wilder. Angels are going to come down from heaven and eat you up and shit you out into a golden leaf of Jesus.
Speaker 1:I want that on a t-shirt the golden leaf of Jesus. I want that on a t-shirt, okay.
Speaker 2:The golden leaf of Jesus.
Speaker 1:No, the whole thing. Angels are going to eat you up and shit you out into a golden leaf of Jesus I want all that on a shirt, an olive branch, go ahead.
Speaker 2:So I'm so fucking ate up with this bullshit. I'm sweating. All right, we're not halfway done, I'm sweating.
Speaker 1:Lori leaves to go back to Hawaii at this time and she tells her friend April that she had met down there when they lived there. She tells April all of the same shit, but she also tells April that she will be one of the 144,000 to be saved as well, that April will.
Speaker 2:She knows.
Speaker 1:Even though April was also a member of the LDS church and she thought that this was quite insane. It was some bullshit, yeah.
Speaker 2:Would she? Would she be like, wait a minute, wait a minute. God is telling me. Now, girl, I don't know, you're going to be okay.
Speaker 1:Angels are not going to eat you and turn you into people Hold on, we have a whole other side story to get into. So yeah, let me finish this part and then we'll go.
Speaker 2:How do you visualize, though, somebody actually telling you this shit?
Speaker 1:Oh, I've heard shit like that my whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean, she just like so seriously charismatic toward being like I'm going to pump this into your head and you're going to believe it.
Speaker 1:Now let's ratchet it back. Just let. Nobody that has spewed some bullshit like this in my life has ever said that they were going to kill somebody and have angels exposed to the body. But I have heard a lot of people say that they were chosen and this, that and other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've heard that and I've been, yeah, and I've been hearing about their hands on you and they put one in the air and they're just like.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna convey this and then they you know, this is holy shove you, so you fall back yeah you're slaying in the spirit I want to watch you shake me in the name of jesus bam, and you go to shaking and shit, yeah, yeah, that shit hurt all right, so well, so well.
Speaker 1:On this visit, april noticed that Tylee was sleeping a lot and she seemed depressed. Now, this was weird because before that, tylee had just been a very engaged person, but she, tylee, was a teenager by now, and we all know teenagers go through some weird shit, so we'll put that on the back burner. But why do you think Lori changed so much in the year 2018? Well, I'm going to tell you Before that, other than the quote from her at the beauty pageant, where she was like I'm kind of like a ticking time bomb onlookers and friends would say that she was amazing. Even Colby says that she was an amazing mother. But Colby's grown. At this point now I think he's like 22 and he has already met his wife and got married. So, but 2018 was a real turning point for Lori.
Speaker 1:So in 2017, lori had started reading books by a doomsday author named Chad Daybell, and he lived in Rexburg, idaho. Chad had a small publishing company and also appeared on several podcasts. Some of these you can't find anymore and you'll know why later, but mm-hmm. So Chad wrote fictional books about the end of days that were loosely based on mormon religion. He wrote over 25 of these books, and some of them contained his near-death experiences and commuting with people on the other side from his experience as a grave digger. Now he was a legal grave digger, not, right, not?
Speaker 2:some sick reason he keeps pushing this whole thing, but as being fictional, right, he's not pushing it as being fictional.
Speaker 1:The books are listed as fictional.
Speaker 2:Because there's no fucking way that this is actually real, because there's no evidence to support that it's real. I got you, correct, I got you. I see a romance coming.
Speaker 1:He believed that he could receive visions from beyond the veil. Chad was originally from Utah and was born in 1968. Now, chad really did have two near-death experiences for real. One was a cliff jump when he was 17, and he claims that when this happened, he jumped into another dimension and saw a different world. Then, when he was in his early twenties, he was hit by a large wave in the ocean is somewhere in California and almost drowned upon, which he was visited by the ghost of his grandfather, who showed him the future. Now I don't know about you you probably have as well but I have had several, several near death experiences and I've never seen any of this shit. But I guess I'm not as special as Chad.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:The Chad.
Speaker 2:No, so what it is, though what I think it is is that you're in that dramatic experience and you're trying to get past the drama that it caused you, so you create some bullshit. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Like I have almost drowned four times alone. That's just that.
Speaker 2:But wouldn't that be a cute story if you said that you know God came to you and saved you in the middle of that. But or you just remember what really happened and just be like, well, that was dramatic, I need to fucking pay attention and not try to drown anymore. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You know anymore. You know I'm saying you know that's what really good swimmer and I was just determined to become one, and in that that was very young.
Speaker 2:I mean, that was just my first four that I can remember. Does my take make sense, though? Like yeah, so is that's what people will actually do? They'll just be like holy shit.
Speaker 1:This was horrible for me to remember, so I'm gonna put something pretty into it well, the only thing that I have from all my near-death experiences is a moment of shock like, wow, this is fucking happening, right.
Speaker 2:And then it was like once I was okay, it was over with yeah, going through, going through the motions is nowhere near as bad as remembering that that could have been the end right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a shock like I would almost like freeze in time right, each time your fight your fight or flight versus the remembrance of you almost dying is worse.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying right yeah, because there's quite a few more after that, but those were more innocent ones when I was younger. But, like I said, with all of them combined, the most that I can remember is just a feeling of shock, yeah, like is this really happening? Like you're in denial, immediately, almost. Yeah. After all of this, he pretty much thinks that he has a foot in both this world and the other one and has found that he was changed forever. So Chad was married to a woman named Tammy, who he had met at Brigham Young University, and they married in 1990 and had five children together Five, wow.
Speaker 1:Rebuilding the army Rebuilding God's army, for sure, tammy worked at the Parks Department and Chad had been a, like I said, he had been a gravedigger, and then he became an author and created him and Tammy together created the publishing company. Now he would go on to predict that there would be an earthquake in Utah and after that is when a supposed World War III would start and all that doomsday kind of shit. And even though he wrote fiction, he actually believed his own bullshit. Okay, now the Daybells had lived in Utah until 2014, when Chad received a vision from God that they should move to Rexburg, idaho. This was going to be the new Jerusalem Rexburg, idaho.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1:Potato land.
Speaker 2:We're going to rebuild the whole religion here. All-grotten potatoes it's my favorite potatoes, all-grotten potatoes. Yes, there you go, go ahead.
Speaker 1:So in October we're back in 2018 now, in October 2018, lori and Chad met at an LDS conference in St George, utah. Lori came with her friend, melanie Gibb. Melanie says that upon Lori and Chad's meeting that Chad tells Lori that they had been married in a past life meeting that chad tells lori that they had been married in a past life. Now chad would also say that he had. They were married in several past lives, but chad had 31 past lives and lori was like, oh my god, well, I only have 21, but that's amazing, like it was.
Speaker 1:They know all that shit and divine beings here and so they were both married and chad would create what he would call a secret portal into her closet where they could communicate spiritually, but this was actually through burner phones oh okay, chad a little dirt going on in there in the background there.
Speaker 2:Jesus told us to do this behind our spouses, his backs, yeah but they weren't doing anything.
Speaker 1:It was spiritual. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, I'm going to say it again Listen to the four parter from last podcast on the left. Um, myself personally I don't have, cause I still have an actual full-time job, but the last podcast boys, that is their job. So they have a lot more time for research and that's why I love listening to theirs, because they're very in depth. So once again recommending that, okay. Moving on, another thing about Chad is that he thinks that he can judge people on the amount of light or darkness that their spirit contains. So Lori asked Chad to do a judgment or an evaluation on her family to this light and dark scale. So he sent her an email on October 30th containing his evaluation. He rates Tylee as 4.1 dark or D D standing for dark and JJ as a 4.2 L or light.
Speaker 2:So he can look into everybody's soul.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Look, I'm rolling my eyes so hard right now.
Speaker 2:I love these divine beings.
Speaker 1:If the numbers were within twos and threes, they could change sides, but if they were four or higher, that means that's where they would stay. That means that they had made a covenant with the light or the darkness Period. So Tylee was on the dark side and would never change. She had now become a fucking Sith Lord and JJ was a Jedi.
Speaker 3:Okay, oh my god.
Speaker 2:If I was a Jedi, I'd be a Samuel Jackson motherfucking Jedi.
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't know. You know, I'm all about me, some Yoda.
Speaker 2:He is cool, but I like Samuel Jackson. We need more Samuel Jackson, jedi shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'd probably be Ewan McGregor. I love him. What is his Obi-Wan? Yeah, I was like what is his?
Speaker 1:name. Like I'm not, you know, haven't watched that shit a million times. So, charles, I don't know why she had Charles evaluated because they were getting divorced, like why do you care? But Charles was a three light and Joe was on the dark side. Joe was now that Okay On December 5th 2018, lori and the dark side. Joe is now that okay. On december 5th 2018, laurie and chad appeared on a podcast called time to warrior up, where they would talk about their end time beliefs and how to prepare for it. I think it was called it's like three p's, like prepared people podcast or some shit.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it's now deleted and you'll see why I had to go away, did it?
Speaker 1:so laurie and chad would basically become leaders of a small doomsday cult after this and would refer to the dark spirits as zombies and not zombies, how we think. Not like night of the living dead, the walking dead, but more what we consider a possession, but they believe that they were the chosen leaders of the 144,000 souls that would survive the apocalypse and Alex Cox would be the destroyer, the destructor.
Speaker 2:Well, destroyer, I know.
Speaker 3:But, that is what they would call him for real.
Speaker 1:Really, that's no bullshit, wow. So Melanie Gibb says that both Chad and Lori would say that both of their spouses would die in car accidents. Melanie saw the relationship growing between Lori and Chad and just straight up asked Lori, why don't you get a divorce, girl? And Lori was like we can't do that. We're chosen leaders. But in early 2019, lori would disappear for like two months and leave the kids behind and Charles was worried. And this is around the time that she told Charles that she was chosen we're back to this time period. Okay, that she told Charles she was chosen and that she could talk to the dead and that she was a demon or he was a demon, excuse me and all that jazz. And that she was a demon or he was a demon, excuse me, and all that jazz. She also told Charles that if he got in her way, she would murder him.
Speaker 2:In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1:In the name of Jesus. Right, okay, and Charles would come home one day and like he was, you know, coming from being out of town and he was trying to get his vehicle and all that, and he discovered that his money and his kids were gone when police were called. Lori just tells the police that Charles had cheated and lost his temper when being confronted with the allegation.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so lying has nothing to do with Charles.
Speaker 1:It's on nothing to do with their religion record it's on police record what Lori told Charles about the whole. I will murder you shit, Wow which I don't understand. Isn't that grounds for being like Baker acted?
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you're telling somebody that you're going to murder them, and every bit of this goes against the whole religion that they're so in love with.
Speaker 1:Exactly Well, kind of, yeah, mormons are different.
Speaker 2:Well, my understanding still. It's the same God, though I mean.
Speaker 1:Right, but they have. They're.
Speaker 2:so, oh God, like I said, they have to rewrite it to make it sit. We're going to cover all of that, yeah, but this is bullshit.
Speaker 1:So well, she went back. She goes back and forth to Hawaii a lot, okay. So she stayed with her friend April again and tells her, tells April, that Charles was already dead because that demon or zombie inside of him you know Ned Schneider had took over.
Speaker 2:Oh so so we can just go ahead and whack him now and it won't matter.
Speaker 1:So she asked April to join her little end times cult, but she would have to leave her kids behind. And april was like nah, girl, I'm good, love you, you know, but no thanks. By the way, charles had asked for laurie to get mentally evaluated. She did oblige and she was cleared. Yes, really so she wasn't talking that shit while she was getting evaluated that's what I'm saying is she was playing the whole different side.
Speaker 2:The good mom the perfect woman yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know, he was done and he was scared for his fucking life and she had that end date locked down and continue to prepare for it. And this date was given to her by Chad Daybell. What was it June? What did I say? June 2020? Given to her by Chad Daybell? What was it June? What did I say? June 2020? Yeah. So we're in 2019,. I think at this point, Right. Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Charles had began to live separately from her, obviously, and on July 19th 2019, charles went to Lori's to pick up JJ for school at 740 AM and was shot dead by Alex the Destroyer Cox, the Destroyer, the Destroyer.
Speaker 2:I like the Destructor, though, from Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, but they call him the.
Speaker 2:Destroyer. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Now Alex called 911 and claims that this was in self-defense. He said they got into a fight over Lori. Supposedly Ty Lee came at Charles as well with a baseball bat. Charles took the bat from her and hit Alex in the back of the head. That's when Alex shoots him twice in the chest. Jj had been in Charles's rental car this whole time and Lori literally walked right past Charles's dead body with Tylee, gets in the rental car and takes JJ to school like nothing ever happened.
Speaker 2:Wow, but he had pulled up with the gun already.
Speaker 1:So he was ready. Well, hold on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and when she returned she seemed very chill. She was actually like making jokes with the cops about how, oh my God, we just moved here. I bet the neighbors think we're crazy. Hi, neighbors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's on the body cam.
Speaker 1:And okay, this is a. Lori Bella was a beautiful woman and the police are just like you can tell, the giddy over her.
Speaker 2:They're Googling yeah.
Speaker 1:This is the second time already. Lori's our third, cause they had to put cameras in her house. Right already laurie's our third, because they had to put cameras in her house, right? Joe died, yeah, and that's and now charles is dead. Yeah, okay, here we go. So she would tell police that her and tyler heard the gunshot but didn't see it, and alex did not face charges for this.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah just had him on lock so laurie reaches out to Charles' sons about the death of their father through text message and never did tell them that it was by the hands of her own brother. I think she told Colby, her son, that it was by heart attack. That he just dropped dead heart attack right in their fucking driveway. And then Colby shows up because he's, you know, concerned for his brother and sister and gets there and then finds out that it was actually alex in self-defense.
Speaker 2:Yeah but it wasn't self-defense, he had the gun ready oh, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:Laurie was anticipating a million dollar life insurance payout from charles's death, but to her dismay she would find out that he had changed his beneficiary to Kate, his sister, the grandmother of JJ.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good.
Speaker 1:On July 22nd, lori either returns JJ service dog or post it for sale on Facebook. I've heard both and but basically she was saying he didn't need it anymore and he wasn't that attached anyway. A seven-year-old autistic kid isn't attached to a dog.
Speaker 2:That's his world. That is his world. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Period. It could have been a lizard, it could have been anything.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:And that child would have been absolutely attached. So then Lori takes the fam and moves to Rexburg, Idaho, also taking Alex the Destroyer with her. And like I said, Chad had told her that Potato Land was going to be the new Jerusalem. I'm sorry, idaho, we love you and we love your potatoes. I'm sorry that Chad. Daybell and we love your potatoes. Yeah, I'm sorry, the Chad Daybell is from your area.
Speaker 2:I apologize that's where all the McDonald's fries come from and the all-greens potatoes we love McDonald's fries and all-greens potatoes.
Speaker 1:Yes, now when they get to Rexburg. Jj would be enrolled in school, but not Tylee, because she was had supposedly already been homeschooling Tylee, and Tylee was 16 or 17 at the time, but JJ, he was only seven. Okay, jj was seven, wow. And Tylee would last be seen on September 8th 2019 at the entrance of Yellowstone national park. Remember that Lori, jj, alex and Tylee had all went that day. There is a picture of that and that is the last picture and the last known appearance of Tylee. Meanwhile, on that same day, chad is upping Tammy's life insurance policy to the max.
Speaker 1:On September 22nd, melanie Give and her boyfriend, david Warwick, were visiting Lori and his family, and David saw Alex carrying JJ into the apartment when he asked to see JJ the next morning. Lori says he's being a zombie right now and Alex had to take him away. On September 24th, lori contacts JJ's school and said that she was withdrawing him to do homeschooling. The next week, lori gets some rings off of Amazon and buys a wedding dress. She would later say that these were for Alex and his soon-to-be wife. But whatever, lori, and this purchase was made with Charles' Amazon account. Charles is now no longer with us no longer.
Speaker 2:She's using the money, yeah.
Speaker 1:On October 1st, lori gets a storage unit and Alex and her are seen visiting this unit at least nine times. On October 9th, tammy Daybell calls to report that someone had shot at her with a paintball gun wearing a ski mask, and she posts about this on Facebook, like for her neighbors to be on the lookout. Ten days later, on October 19th, tammy daybell dies suddenly in her sleep. Chad says that he woke up to her coughing, throwing up, and then she fell out of bed at some point. When it was time to wake up for the day she was gone. What? No longer on this earth they set it up.
Speaker 2:It's like they were getting everything prepared.
Speaker 1:Well, the coroner says that it was natural causes, so no autopsy was done. Okay, before all this she had been a very healthy woman. Now Chad told his friend Julie Rowe, who worked for him down at the publishing company, that he would not. It was like three weeks before Tammy died that he would not be able to move forward with his plan until Tammy was dead, y'all.
Speaker 2:Mind it up.
Speaker 1:Why, if somebody comes to you and mentions death in a sentence, no matter what they're talking about, get somebody involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least document it. You know, just like, hey, I'm going to tell about at least three or four people about this, because this needs to be documented. Write this down right now and I want to report just just comments.
Speaker 1:You know I was listening to a morbid podcast and this was not even related to this case, it was on a whole nother case. But um, Elena, on that podcast, said that her father always told her that if someone you know is it showing you red flags in some type of situation, write it down.
Speaker 2:And also if they're not doing it in anger, if they're just talking in common conversation. Definitely watch out.
Speaker 1:Just a little more than two weeks later, on November 5th 2019, lori and Chad together go to Hawaii and get married.
Speaker 2:I know it was going to happen, lindsay, I note it. I note it, it was divine.
Speaker 1:Yes. It was brought to us from the past and I have to tell you like Chad is the most humperdink looking motherfucker I have ever seen in my life. And then there was some people who were like Engelbert.
Speaker 1:Then there's some people like, well, you know, he was just charismatic and he just swept Laurie off of his feet. But then there are other people that say that they would they listen to some of the recordings that he had on the podcast and he's just very humdrum Nothing. They don't understand how this guy put Lori under such a spell to do the unspeakable things that she will go on to do.
Speaker 2:Oh, they were married in the past. Remember, it's fucking wild there's 21 past lives.
Speaker 1:Now, during this time, kate jj's grandmother hadn't been able to get a hold of laurie to talk to jj because, remember, she originally wanted to care for him. The business wouldn't allow enough attention from her to be able to care for jj, but they she was in in constant contact with Lori. So she calls for a welfare check. She's like why the fuck isn't she answering the phone? Why haven't I seen or talked to my grandson Colby?
Speaker 1:Lori's oldest son had been trying to get ahold of Tylee and all he would get back were texts from her that just weren't in her normal text pattern. Because we know a person's text pattern, somebody that we've been texting for a long time. We know their text pattern, so if it's off, I'm, I'm gonna be suspicious. Yeah, that's just like um. My one of my sons, would you know, contact me a lot through facebook messenger and then one day I'm at work and I'm in the break room for a minute I have some time, I'm getting a drink and I seen that he has given me or sent me some messages and they just didn't seem like him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't him. And.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm sorry, but this just doesn't sound like my son, and next thing I get is a bunch of weird cryptic sexual messages from this person that is pretending to be my son.
Speaker 1:I record it and block immediately. So then I contact the phone number that I have for my son and be like, hey, your Facebook's been hacked. And I told him exactly what happened. He's like, oh my God, mom, I'm sorry. I'm like, well, it's not your fault, because and I told him exactly what happened, he's like, oh my God, mom, I'm sorry. I'm like, well, it's not your fault, but I noticed that the text pattern was not his. So Tylee wouldn't answer his phone calls and he reaches out to Lori and Lori would make all kinds of excuses by saying like, oh, she's super busy. Then he would reach out to Tylee again and he would get a text back. That was like sorry, I'm just super busy again and he would get a text back that was like sorry I'm just super busy, so it's more lori style, not tightly okay.
Speaker 1:Also, we got another little side story here also. At this time, lori's niece, who is also named melanie not melanie gibb um had been going through a divorce and a custody battle of her own. She quickly remarried and moved to Rexburg Okay, the new Jerusalem in Arizona. Melanie's now ex-husband, brandon, was pulling into his driveway and someone driving a Jeep shot at him and then peeled off. Wow, this Jeep was registered in Charles Vallow's name and it had belonged to Tylee. Oh, wow, there's so many players in this game.
Speaker 2:There is a lot of shit twisted up here.
Speaker 1:Right. So Brandon tells police that he was certain that the shooter was Alex the destroyer.
Speaker 2:The destroyer. I'll keep wanting to say Destructor on this.
Speaker 1:No, they called him, I know.
Speaker 2:I know, but okay, at least he's not Alex the Terrible.
Speaker 1:So Chad and Lori, the newlyweds, they're back in Rexburg from Hawaii. And the police arrived to do that. Well, check on JJ, per Kate's request. Lori wasn't home, but Chad and Alex were there. The police asked where JJ was and Alex said he's at his grandma's house in Louisiana. And the police were like well, you know, that's kind of strange because she's the one who requested this. Well, check on him. So Alex and Chad said hey, lori's at an apartment nearby, why don't you go over and talk to her? And at this time the police actually call for backup. They're starting to get really suspicious about what's going on here don't be suspicious.
Speaker 1:Don't be suspicious don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious, okay. So when laurie was questioned she was like, oh my goodness, nothing to worry about here. Jj is staying with my friend melanie gibb in arizona. She offered to call melanie for them. Melanie didn't answer. So laurie follows up with you. Know what they're probably at the movies saying frozen 2. Oh, that's how recent this is. That's when Frozen 2 came out, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the officers tell her to please call them when they do get in touch with Melanie, so they can talk to JJ and Melanie and resolve this wealth check, okay. So Chad and Lori then call Melanie and leave her a message saying hey, quick favor, if the police call you, will you please tell them that you have JJ and the police do get in touch with Melanie. And at first she went along with the story but then finally told him JJ's not here and I don't know where he is. When Melanie calls Lori to ask why she was being brought into this lie, lori says well, I don't want them to know where JJ actually is, but why? Yeah, so Lori assured her that JJ was safe and happy. Lori and Chad actually make Melanie feel bad for questioning them Really, yeah, in true narcissistic manner. Yeah, how dare you make me, make you feel bad for questioning them Really, yeah, in true narcissistic manner.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How dare you make me make you?
Speaker 1:feel bad. I'm sorry you made me yell at you. Yeah, that's one of my favorite lines in a show thus far by principles.
Speaker 2:Watch it the most.
Speaker 1:The narcissistic thing I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, so it also comes to light. Now. Tylee hasn't been seen either, and this Tylee hasn't been seen since September 8th. We're now in December, okay, so by December 20th, Tylee and JJ were officially declared missing. Investigators start combing through emails, text messages and Lori's iCloud account. Through emails, text messages and Lori's iCloud account. This also brought to light that Tammy Daybell's death may be suspicious, and then her body was exhumed and sent for an autopsy, which was previously denied.
Speaker 2:Oh, here it comes, here it comes.
Speaker 1:And she had actually died from asphyxiation. Oh, here it is here it comes. And she had actually died from asphyxiation. Ah, not natural causes.
Speaker 2:I knew it. I knew you were flipping me some shit right there. And then now, here it is.
Speaker 1:All right, so that was on December 20th when they were declared missing, so we're going to go back a little bit. On December 12th, alex the destroyer was found dead. Ah, in his home. How many people we got dead now?
Speaker 2:There's like fucking 2,527.
Speaker 1:We got Joe, Charles, Tammy and now Alex. Yeah, he was found to have blood clots in his lungs and this was supposedly a genetic disease or disorder, or you know, it was genetics.
Speaker 2:No, they pumped him with something.
Speaker 1:Prior to his death he had told his new wife and this is on an affidavit that he felt he was going to take the fall for Lori and Chad's transgressions. Then they re-examined Joe Ryan, but it was still determined that his death was from natural causes. I don't know what they did here. I don't know. It's still not known. Okay, so now back to the kids. When they were declared missing, Lori and Chad are now declared suspects in the disappearance. So Lori and Chad now declared suspects in the disappearance. So Lori and Chad now back in Hawaii once again. They've married, returned. Now they're back.
Speaker 2:In the love, yes, in the bonds of Jesus.
Speaker 1:They refuse to cooperate with police.
Speaker 2:Period. This is some serial killer shit to me.
Speaker 1:There is a warrant issued on January 3rd 2020 to confiscate potential evidence from Chad's home in Rexburg. On January 25th, lori was told that she must produce her children by January 30th or she would be arrested, and she did not do this and I don't know why she was given those five extra days. But she was actually given a lot more extra days, but the five days came and went and no kids, yeah, in February, her storage unit in Idaho was searched on February 20th. So this is a lot. This is a whole. Another month, pretty much, is when Lori was officially arrested and charged with two felony counts of desertion, non-support to dependent children, obstruction of justice, solicitation to commit a crime and suspicion of murder. Her bond was set at $1 million and she had not yet said where her children were. Colby, her oldest son, is calling her, begging her to tell him, but all she will say is they are safe and happy. Shit on that.
Speaker 1:Alex's phone records were subpoenaed and they were able to track his movements prior to his death On September 9th. This was back in 2019, he had been in Chad's backyard for two and a half hours. 14 minutes after Alex left, chad sent a text to Tammy. This was before her death, and the text said well, I have had an interesting morning. I felt that I should burn all the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too soaked by the coming storms. While I did so, I spotted a big raccoon along the fence. I hurried and got my gun and he was still walking the wall. I got close enough that one shot did the trick, and now he is in our pet cemetery.
Speaker 1:Oh Lindsay you know that's quite a wordy text.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had to explain a non suspicious person would have just been like.
Speaker 1:You know what I shot a raccoon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have said you know I don't know what I would have said. None of our to try to cover that up I can't, I can't figure out how to word that into hiding the disturbed earth well, we don't think like that. Yeah, the kids are in. I don't know if they're there yet, but, jesus, they're probably there all right, so oh, here it comes.
Speaker 1:That was February Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm taking a drink. Yeah, take a drink.
Speaker 1:God, but I just want to bring to light that that all happened in February. Now we're in June 9th, 2020. The kids are still missing. I watched this in real time unfold.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Well, I was, you know, I was home a lot Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, COVID.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the detectives and FBI come to Chad's property with a search warrant and search dogs to search his backyard. After they found this text message, lori calls from jail at this same time and Chad lets her know that the yard is being searched. He then tried to leave but was obviously detained, and they found two sets of human remains in shallow graves in his backyard. Oh, I knew it.
Speaker 2:I knew it. Sons of bitches. I know I'm clouding up Sons of bitches. Okay, sons of bitches. I know I'm clouding up Sons of bitches.
Speaker 1:Okay, chad was immediately arrested and charged with concealment, distribution and alteration of evidence. Jays, because he was wearing the same pajamas that he had last been seen wearing on a photo of him found on Lori's iCloud account.
Speaker 2:Oh God, lindsay seven years old babies.
Speaker 1:And that was from septet. That photo had been taken on September 22nd. We're in June of 2020.
Speaker 2:Them kids are just locked up somewhere until then, wasn't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, jj had been bound with duct tape and had duct tape around his mouth and a plastic bag over his head which had also been sealed with duct tape, and his cause of death was asphyxiation.
Speaker 2:Them fucking poor babies, them babies, man, I cannot believe that.
Speaker 1:The next one's worse. The other set of remains were later determined to be Tylee. She had been dismembered and burned. What the fuck Lindsay. So that raccoon the child was talking about.
Speaker 2:Was cheering them two babies and cut up one, asphyxiated the other. Who knows what else.
Speaker 1:So the cause of her death was not determined, but was ruled as homicide. Her DNA was later found on a pickaxe in Chad's shed oh my God, and Alex's DNA had been found everywhere. It was everywhere. So now Chad and Lori are both locked up and indicted on the murders of both Tylee and JJ. Chad was also being tried for the murder of Tammy Daybell and Lori for the conspiracy to murder Charles Vallow, lori went to trial in April of 2023. Oh, and for the conspiracy to murder Charles Vallow, lori went to trial in April of 2023. Oh, and, by the way, girl, the end of the world didn't happen because we're still here, oh, yeah. So she went on for the murder of Tylee and JJ and she pleaded not guilty.
Speaker 2:No, jesus told her to do it, so she ain't guilty as shit.
Speaker 1:The prosecution basically said that this woman would do anything to get what she wanted, and what she wanted was to be kid free with Chad Daybell, like there was a a point in their little you know spur of the moment marriage there, where they were like they called each other empty nesters.
Speaker 1:Oh, so they just wanted them selfish them divine entities together because they were the chosen leaders of the last 144,000 yeah, the leaders yes so fucking great leadership there was a plethora of text messages sent between Chad and Lori planning all this out for a while, and they were using their weird light and dark codes and the name Hillary was given for the zombie that possessed Tylee. Remember Ed Schneider, not Ed Ned Schneider, ned Schneider. Was the one that possessed Charles, and now Hillary was the one that possessed Tylee.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, Lindsay, I'm, I'm upset, I don't. I feel like I'm going to so just ah, uh, that that is really. It's really bad. This is horrible to use. How do you mix religion in this? How do you do it? How do you do it? What then? It's not a religion year? How do you do it? How do you do it? What Then? It's not a religion?
Speaker 1:You're, it's an excuse, you know on May 12th 2023, only after seven hours of deliberation, the jury unanimously found Lori guilty on all charges of murder and conspiracy.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Now, this was her statement.
Speaker 2:I want to say this, cause it's in my head there will come a payday. There will come a payday.
Speaker 4:there will come a payday, there will come a payday someday.
Speaker 2:Someday there will come a payday, hallelujah, hallelujah, and there will come a payday someday, sorry righteous gemstones.
Speaker 1:watch it max, asap, all. So this was her statement before being sentenced. Okay, I'm going to read it in my best glory.
Speaker 2:This is my realization of calloused. Am I there? You know there now because you fucking you just said that crazy shit that I'm really fucking upset about right now, and then I just flipped some shit like that Did.
Speaker 1:I just do that. You're getting there.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm getting calloused a little bit, I know.
Speaker 1:I mean, as you can see, I'm calloused but some of them just fucking break down. You were crying a minute ago.
Speaker 2:I know, but like I mean, I'm really upset about it. I really am, but now being able to switch to some bullshit to laugh, why I'm not you're kind of fucking me up, though.
Speaker 1:I mean, we're 23 episodes in now.
Speaker 2:You're fucking me up though, but still like, I feel like right now it kind of clicked into Callister right now Like it's so fucking horrible though them four babies and then fucking using I mean, but it's a bunch of bullshit to begin with, so I'm biting on a turd sandwich the whole time.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to read Lori's statement in the best Lori voice that.
Speaker 2:I can muster, I'll do it. I want to hear it.
Speaker 1:I would like to start by quoting John from the New Testament in the Bible. In John, chapter eight, verse seven, jesus says he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. Then, in the first verse of chapter 15, jesus says ye judge after the flesh. I judge no man, and yet if I judge, my judgment is true. Jesus knows me and Jesus understands me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy.
Speaker 1:Accidental deaths happen, suicides happen, fatal side effects from medications happen. We're going to dive into that deeper in just a second. I have a different perspective in life because in 2002, I was pregnant with Tylee. I died in the hospital while in labor with her. They tried to stop my labor, they put me on the table and they put something in my IV and I felt my spirit falling to the floor. I was standing near my pregnant body watching the doctors try to revive me, which took them a few minutes. In that time my sister, stacy, was standing to my left. I turned to hug her and was surprised that her spirit was tangible as a physical body, because I knew I was in spirit and she was in spirit. She said she needed to show me some things and we went to heaven. I later returned to my body.
Speaker 1:Because of this experience, I have access to heaven and the spirit world. Since then, I have had many communications from people now living in heaven, including my children, tylee, ashland and Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacy and Lolly, my aunts and my uncles and my grandparents. I have had many communications with Jesus Christ, the Savior of this world, and our heavenly parents. Many angelic visitors have come and communicated with me and even manifested themselves to me Because of these communications. I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world Because of my communications. I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world Because of my communications with my friend Tammy Daybell. I know that she is also very happy and extremely busy.
Speaker 1:I have always mourned the loss of my loved ones and I have lost many in this mortal world. However, I know them more than most people. I know where they are now and what they are doing. I know how wonderful heaven is and I am homesick for it every single day. I know we all lived in heaven before we were on earth and we were all adult spirits in the heavenly realm and chose to come to earth as mortals.
Speaker 1:I did not want to return to my body when I was out of it, even though my son, colby, who I adored more than anything, was only six years old at the time and I was about to give birth to his new baby girl that I wanted so badly. I was a young mother and would think I wouldn't have to leave my children, but as soon as I stood in heaven, I did not want to go back. I thought they would be fine without me, because I was peaceful and I was happy and I was home. But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back and complete the things that I had covenanted Sorry y'all, yeah, covenanted or promised to do before I was born.
Speaker 2:That's a seven deadly sin, but yeah, covenant.
Speaker 1:Not coveting but covenanted. She had a covenant.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:This caused me a lot of distress because I knew heaven was my real home and I only wanted to be there. I was free from pain, emotionally and physically. Then I was shown how I could help my children and others in the future. So ultimately I did agree to go back to my body. Tylee suffered horrible physical pain her whole life. Side note she did have pancreatitis when she was younger, but it did seem to have healed before her death.
Speaker 2:You know how bad I would be wanting to fight you right now If you were saying some shit like that in real earnest. I would be wanting to fight you If you were saying if you were saying that, trying to justify taking lives because I know better that we're all going to heaven and we're just spirit, so life on earth doesn't matter, so I can just take it whenever I want to. Right, that's what she's trying to say right there. She's trying to justify all of that Don't really matter, because we're all going to heaven and I know their spirits, so we're all just going to hug and hang out later on after I killed you Right?
Speaker 1:All right, I'm getting back into character.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, it's fuck.
Speaker 1:I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year while she Fuck. She had pain every single day. She never felt good. Her body did not work right and I don't know if that was from complications from me dying while she was being born or something else. But she had a very difficult life. She was sexually abused by her own biological father since she was three years old and she was forced by family court to go visit him for ten years against her will. I fought for her in court. I protected her. I tried to protect her. My whole life I tried to protect her. I worried about her every single day. Tylee had to get her GED because she could not go to school every day because she never felt good, she felt sick. Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a good front, tries to be a happy person, tries to have a hope in life, tries to know that she's here for a purpose and that she has an eternal purpose to be on this earth. But I never stopped worrying about her. One of these times that Tylee came to me as a spirit after she died, she said she commanded me and she said to me stop worrying, mom, we are fine. She knows how I worry and how I miss her.
Speaker 1:The first time JJ visited me after he passed away, he put his arm around me and he said to me you didn't do anything wrong, mom, I love you and I know you loved me every minute of my life. Joshua, jj Jackson, was an adult spirit. He was very, very tall when he put his arm around me. He is busy, he is engaged, he has jobs that he does there and he is happy where he is. His life was short, but JJ's life was meaningful. His life was short, but JJ's life was meaningful. Jj was a wonderful person and touched the lives of everyone and I adored him every minute of his life.
Speaker 1:My eternal friend Tammy Daybell has visited me on several occasions. She came to bring me peace and comfort, and I know that she is extremely busy helping her family, especially her children and grandchildren, and I have a great love for Tammy. My beautiful children, tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson, rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus. My wonderful friend Tammy Daybell rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus, and I look forward to the day when we are all reunited and I too will rest in the arms of my Jesus, she said that in court you know how bad I want to drop kick you for even saying that.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know you're not her, no, but just how in the fuck is somebody justifying all of this and then and then saying oh, our kids came to me and they're just fine with me hacking them up. They're just fine with me stabbing them with a fucking pickaxe and they're just fine with them fucking choking me out with a bag over my head.
Speaker 1:They're just fine with that in the eyes of the Lord, Well, that whole plethora of bullshit that she spilled did not help her, because she was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole good now her only surviving son, colby. He has had a really hard time. He's lost his siblings and so many others around him. Yeah, now he has a youtube channel and a podcast called scar wars. Wow, yes. I'm going to get teary because I watched some of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now it's the Scar Wars podcast. Okay, so if you want to look him up on either, I do suggest that, because this is his healing journey.
Speaker 2:You may not want to tell me this, but I want to know right now. Am I still paying taxes for this bitch to be alive?
Speaker 1:Yes, fuck, he. Uh. Colby actually interviews his own mother for his podcast and he is begging her to just to please say what happened. And this is what this bitch tells him. Okay, she says that Tylee accidentally smothered JJ and then took her own life.
Speaker 2:With a pickaxe and cut herself up. Right, yeah, yeah, fuck no.
Speaker 1:Now, first of all, bitch, how dare you. And second of all, that is not forensically or evidentiary possible. No it's not Fuck.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Colby does turn to the camera after he's done with this interview and assures his listeners that this is not true. He completely knows that his mother is very mentally ill. Now Chad's children believe that he is completely innocent and was set up by Lori and Alex All five of them, All five of his kids. On June 21st of 2024, Chad Daybell was sentenced to death for the murder in the first and conspiracy to the murder of Tammy JJ and Tylee. Lori's conspiracy trial is set to be held on March 31st this year, so not too far away from now.
Speaker 2:So we're going to have some stuff.
Speaker 1:later on We'll have a little recap later on and she will be representing herself. Wow, I watched a Jailhouse interview which I would like for you to watch with me a little later. It's only about an hour With her and the best in the biz, Keith Morrison.
Speaker 2:Really yes, all right man.
Speaker 1:She still believes all her bullshit and that her and Chad will be exonerated.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Completely, completely believes that.
Speaker 2:So I mean I have to work to put these. I mean, is that sound conceited of me to be pissed off or whatever? I have to work and they take my money to facilitate this bullshit.
Speaker 1:And Chad will probably be on death row for a long time.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and Lori will be there the rest of her life. I'm just going to drag this shit out for the next 20 years and then, oh man, I'm not trying to just plug, but if you're hands down, I'm sorry if you don't like it or whatever. If you're hands down, a fucking tyrant and you kill other people and there's no way around it, no way of getting out of it. It's completely proven. Why do I have to keep working to pay for that? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Right, because, as I'm going to go back to the West Memphis three, there was a lot of reasonable doubt there. There was nothing connecting them to these murders, everything.
Speaker 2:Everything, everything. Chad. Debo and Lori and her nine last names, everything. And what a stain on the religion. What a stain on, like everything, everything. Well, fortunately, everybody around them. There's no credibility.
Speaker 1:Everybody around them has testified against them, other than Chad's children. Yeah, so everybody else that was involved, like Melanie Gibb, I mean, yes, she was irresponsible completely and I put a lot of I don't know if I want to say blame, but I put a lot of responsibility on her because she knew from a long time ago that there was something off. There was something wrong.
Speaker 2:Definitely something ain't right. They were using this to justify a fling that turned into something that they were just saying. Too much crazy shit. I don't know they're, they're both just shot the fuck out. Yeah, you know, hands down, shot the fuck out. Use religion on top of their selfish, fucking empty nest theory that you know, in whatever else they could pull, in kids were zombies. Yeah, there were zombies, so they're good kids were fine. There was nothing wrong with chad's kids oh well it was just lori, yeah yeah, well, that was part of his.
Speaker 1:What'd you go for, dink deal oh my god, he was, he is, he is the biggest humperdink um, don't show him to me.
Speaker 2:So is this it? Is this all of it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's our.
Speaker 2:This is the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Our coverage will give an update when Lori's conspiracy theory trial is over yeah. Her conspiracy to murder.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go ahead and just slip this in, because I mean, I'm not really happy about this at all. Yeah, this was a rough one yeah that's why I say, I mean like but thank you for making me be addicted to this bullshit, lindsay casey anthony's was horrible and she's still the most hated mom, but laurie vallow, she's she's number one for me. Right now, women be doing the work.
Speaker 1:Don't you dare, I dared.
Speaker 2:That's horrible. Can I play music, yet you?
Speaker 1:can't put sick women in the same category as good women.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. I'm just making a. You know I'm not, I'm kidding over here.
Speaker 1:But I mean, like I said, you know it.
Speaker 2:Good women are good women.
Speaker 1:She showed a little bit of craziness. But 2018, when she met Chad, was when she really flipped. The script Snapped yeah.
Speaker 2:Snapped and just tried to use religion to make it all justified, I guess in her own mind. Fucked up, Can I play music yet? Can I play music yet?
Speaker 1:Yes, you can plug your band, who we're listening to today.
Speaker 2:So back in the day I did a collaboration album with my band and a few other amazing bands and I want to talk about one of the bands that was in the collaboration album. So we, we, we took in I think it was like eight different bands and one of the bands was called sister Sandoz.
Speaker 1:Okay, I remember them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I've been talking to Beckycky back and forth whenever we started all this. She is the front lady of this group and they're amazing and I want to share them, and one of these days we're probably going to have becky down here and we're going to talk about, uh, some things that's happened in her area. Okay, so wouldn't that be cool? Yes I want to play some sister sandow guest star yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure, for, for sure, for sure, for sure. So y'all check Sister Sandoz out. This song is called Runaway.
Speaker 3:Runaway. Try to try to Find a way to undo, undo the things I have to go through, go through Never again. Try to try to Find a way to undo undo the things I have to go through, go through, go through never again. Bye, I'm under tear like I do. Yeah, try to try to find a way to undo, undo the things I have to go through, go through. Oh, never again. I try to find a way to undo these things I have to go through Never again. I know you'll run away Never again. Try to understand why I'm like this. Yeah, I'll be right, I'm just saying why. I'm just saying why. Yeah, I'm just saying why. I'm doing it again, trying to understand why. I'm just saying why. Yeah, yeah, why are you running away?
Speaker 2:And then again trying to understand why I do what I do. Yeah, take my eyes to a new beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I do what I do.
Speaker 1:I love it so much so they remind me a little bit of garbage. Garbage-ish yeah A little bit of Suburban Pickups.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and a little bit of Flyleaf yeah.
Speaker 1:a little bit of sober sun pickups, yeah, and a little bit of fly leaf it does yeah it does and I love it like I pictured all three bands like so awesome, so awesome it was kurt, that sent them my way um years ago, a few years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah and yeah, I love them. They're amazing and I want to see, I want to see her down here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on the cast yeah, come on down come on down right now. What we can do is we can send her, like my upcoming case lineup and see which one she wants to join on no, she has some cool stuff okay.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we'll let her do stuff and we'll be the listeners.
Speaker 1:That would be awesome. Yeah, yeah Come come run this, come run this.
Speaker 2:You're going to be in my seat with me. Yes, so that's the deal. That's the deal, becky. Now we shared your band.
Speaker 1:You got to come down and we're going to be the listeners and you run this. We're going to react.
Speaker 2:We should do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot more All about that. Yeah, all about that.
Speaker 2:So we're going to let this ride on. Y'all check out Sister Sandoz in the Georgia North Florida area, everything like that, because they're in, I think, macon, georgia. So check them out, follow them.
Speaker 1:Follow us.
Speaker 2:Follow all the bands. Follow us DrinkAboutSomethingsite.
Speaker 1:And we're on Instagram, youtube. We got a Gmail. Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Do the whole thing. You know might as well.
Speaker 1:Send us an email If you have. That's what I want. I love the feedback. I really do. Send us an email.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We would love to take your recommendation, yep.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. And I'm working out so many cool bands and we're probably going to be doing maybe some remote stuff, Definitely Rockville. So sharing all the bands, all the stuff and the old shitty content that Lindsay comes up with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have less than two months until Rockville.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so ready, I know so ready. But we're going to fly out, I'm going to cook some brats over here and we're going to have a great weekend. We'll see you guys next Friday, maybe sooner, maybe sooner, maybe even Wednesday, but I'm not sure yet no.
Speaker 1:next one. Next one's going to be two pata. Two polta that we will deliver to you on Friday and Wednesday.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so see you next Friday. Bye.
