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EPISODE 33: Turpin family horror
What drives parents to imprison, starve, and torture their own children for decades? The Turpin family case stands as one of America's most shocking examples of familial abuse hidden behind closed doors.
This story forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about how such abuse can exist in plain sight, our responsibility to report concerns, and why our systems repeatedly fail vulnerable children—even after rescue. Listen and ask yourself: What would you have done if you'd noticed something wrong in the house next door?
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Speaker 1:Listeners pop a top again. So what are you drinking today?
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Speaker 2:I went to my bourbon cabinet yeah to the cabinet.
Speaker 1:I already had a little bit.
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Speaker 1:All right, so let's roll that intro oh.
Speaker 2:God, happy Friday. Happy motherfucking Friday. Yeah, motherfucking happy Friday. How's that? Oh, I do this whole thing with my shoulders. Now Look at this, isn't it cool?
Speaker 1:They can't see it, he's doing a little jiggeroo with his shoulders, with his shoulders, with his shoulders, so shoulders With his shoulders. So we're on episode 33.
Speaker 2:Dirty 33. Yes.
Speaker 1:I had to look because I couldn't remember what episode we are on. And do you want to know what we're drinking about today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead. Tell me, Miss Lindsay.
Speaker 1:What are we? Well, today we're going to be drinking about the Turpin family. But before we get into that, turpin family.
Speaker 2:Yes, turpin time Like Turpin, turpin, turf, just Turpin, okay.
Speaker 1:Before we get into that, what made you feel old this week? Look at you.
Speaker 2:Can't fucking see shit up close man. Oh yeah, can't fucking see shit up close man. Oh yeah, I noticed that. I mean I just put like I wear glasses and contacts, so I put my contacts back in and then notice that either way with my glasses or my contacts- I can't see shit up close, so it might be time to upgrade your prescription.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't put bifocals on contacts.
Speaker 2:So that's, I don't know bifocals on contacts, so that's I don't know Cause my dad can they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, my dad has been a bifocal. If his glasses are Coke, bottle as fuck, but he wears contacts.
Speaker 2:So I don't know, I can't see shit up close. I know that one Well.
Speaker 1:I'm already like three. I know I have to take a picture of small print and blow it up.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you've already been there. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there's a few things that made me feel old. So I've had this ongoing sinus infection that I may have to tell a doc for some antibiotics because I'm about sick of it. Now. It's like when I bend over, sick of it now. It's like when I bend over. Um, when I bend over like the, it burns right in this in the nose area and up here where my eyes is. My eyes will be watering and you know, I really thought it was allergies but it just can't get it out, it ain't going away and then let's see, I haven't been able to wake up at my normal time that I want to wake up.
Speaker 1:All week it's been like 30 minutes past. Yeah yeah, old sucks. And then that pizza that we ate last night tried to kill me, dude.
Speaker 2:I woke up in the middle of the night last night, yeah, and Lindsay was over there praying to all the gods.
Speaker 2:Oh and it was so acidic and and I'm like I feel so bad for my baby so I went and got her some water. You know, like what else do I do? I don't want to come like I want to be around her. I don't want to hover. No, her hair is not in the fucking way. It looks like she's kicking ass. Whatever she's in it. Get her a drink of water and just set it down. I'm like, ah, I hope you feel better. If you you need anything, I'm here, whatever.
Speaker 3:Well, sometimes it just feels good to get it out of your body when it's bothering you.
Speaker 2:Can't eat the same shit you used to. It was almost like relief.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so it was grandkid night so we ordered a shit ton of pizza. We get the meat treat and we get the supreme and veggie and it was real good going down. We went ham for real but you see my ass, go get me a pralisek before I started, yeah, so I have, I'm good, I'm gonna do that from now on when we eat tomato based um foods like the, the bloody mary's and shit, don't bother me, it's really not the damning, not the ingredients so much.
Speaker 2:It's actually just the bread or something with the pizza, but I didn't eat.
Speaker 1:I only ate the toppings. All I ate on the bread was the thin crust, which is barely bread at all.
Speaker 2:I had like two pieces of that. But I can eat all those same ingredients any other time without being a pizza and I'm fine. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1:But we put it in pizza form and it is heartburn sitting.
Speaker 2:Yes, deadly, it's deadly.
Speaker 1:So, if you are new here, what we do is we have a drink or two. Sometimes I tell Jesse a true crime story that I've been wanting to spill my guts about, but I save it for the pod. So I tell him a story. Sometimes I break him, sometimes I puddle him, sometimes he just wants to leave.
Speaker 2:Last weekend I flipped the script on you.
Speaker 1:You did, I was like sir.
Speaker 2:Who is this dude over here?
Speaker 1:That's like agreeing with this Like.
Speaker 2:I said I wasn't agreeing like with it, I was just trying to.
Speaker 1:I wasn't and I wasn't victim blaming whatsoever, because murder is never the answer. But at the same time, I don't. My head cannot, cannot, wrap around how a woman in her twenties can be ruled by their parents Right.
Speaker 2:You couldn't find comprehension in the status In our house.
Speaker 1:we have a 20 year old living at home. He's got. He's got certain things he's got to do during the week and he's got to pay a certain amount of money for his car payment, you know, and insurance and stuff. But other than that he's got freedom, yeah yeah, and has pretty much since he turned 18 yeah because how are you gonna, especially if they have a job and we're letting him?
Speaker 2:establish yeah, manhood, right that's coming to it and to his own and be his own person, be a good person.
Speaker 1:But I wasn't like supporting her I knew exactly what you meant and it was just. It's still, but, like I said, my rebellious spirit could never, never.
Speaker 2:You wanted me to be up in arms with you.
Speaker 1:No, not really, I just didn't. Your understanding of it was just surprising to me, like odd. Yeah, yeah, it was a little odd Karate artery. But at the end of the episode we also plug a band that Jesse has diligently sought out and gotten permission to play and he's really excited about this week. He's already brought it up several times. So we're going to get this thing rolling, but we're going to do things just a little different. We're going to start with that 911 call. Ok, yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to need you to plug that in real quick here we go y'all and we're going to start the ride of the Turpin family, because these are horrific. Usually, this stuff really starts setting the tone, mm-hmm. So you're wanting to fuck me up on this one Is that what it is?
Speaker 1:Well, it's important.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, thank you Thank you 911 emergency. What are you reporting? Um hello, this is 911, do you have an emergency? I just want to leave from home because I live in a family of 15. Okay, can you hear me? And we have abusing parents, did you hear that? Okay, how did they abuse you? Okay, they hit us, they throw us across the room, they pull our hair, they yank out our hair. I have two. My two little sisters right now are chained up.
Speaker 1:Okay, how old are you?
Speaker 3:I'm 17. What's your name? Foden Turpin. Oh, yes, I'm still here. What's your address? Okay, you've got to give me a minute. Let's go take a walk. I've never been out. I don't go out much, so I don't know anything about the streets or anything. Does anybody at the house take any kind of medication? I don't know what medication.
Speaker 2:It is Whoa, there's the whole house full and everything. She's like I've never really been out, Like I don't even understand what that is you heard her voice, can you believe that she's 17?
Speaker 1:She sounds five she did At the most to me Maybe. Okay, we'll say seven, to talk that clearly, right?
Speaker 2:17. Very creepy, very not normal. I'm trying to wrap my head around just that call alone. So I'm starting off with that.
Speaker 1:This is what you gave me. Yes, this is what you gave me. Well, so if you didn't understand clearly, that was 17-year-old Jordan Turpin and she is one of the 13 Turpin children brought into this world by David and Louise Turpin. After that phone call, on January 14, 2018, police were brought into one of the most horrific scenes that you can imagine. The Turpin house in Paris, California, was covered in trash, filth, feces, urine, molded food and 13 children who were starving, malnourished, filthy and some of them chained to their beds.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, Lindsay?
Speaker 1:The age range of the Turpin children for from two to twenty nine. So how did we get here? All right, david, I don't know if I want to be here.
Speaker 2:You can't leave the hell on.
Speaker 1:What the hell You're in now, oh you got me?
Speaker 2:Yes, I, I got you. Now I have to ride this wave.
Speaker 1:Yes, hold on, it's not aurora I knew you were gonna say that oh, man, no, oh, I'm picturing it, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1:It's all, just it's coming and it's gonna be fucking so david allen turpin was born on october 17th 19, 1961, and he was a man of the pentecostal faith. He did well in school and graduated as a computer engineer from virginia tech and worked for lockheed martin androp Grumman. He met the woman that he would marry when he was 23 years old, and she was barely 16. And her name was Louise Ann Robinette. So Louise, she was born on May 24th 1968. And she, unfortunately, would be sexually abused most of her life by her grandfather, and this abuse was allowed by her mother, who had also been abused by the same man. What, yeah?
Speaker 2:Very horrific. Just fucked up all right off the rip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're kicking you right in the nuts off the rip, okay. Off the rip, okay. So David and Louise married in Parisburg, virginia, in 1985. And between 1988 and 2015, the couple would have 10 sons and three daughters, all with the name or all with names starting with the letter J. Wow. They believe that God had called upon them to have as many children as possible. In the early years, the family seemed to be doing great. They lived in Fort Worth, texas, and David was making a six-figure salary, which is nice.
Speaker 2:So he's traveling around with Lockheed and it looks like he went from California.
Speaker 1:No, California is where we start the story. We're going back in time. Yeah, he started in Virginia, okay, okay, now we're the story we're going back in time, yeah, he started in Virginia. Okay, okay, now we're in Fort Worth Texas.
Speaker 2:Okay, but he's moving around because of, probably, his job.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yeah, that's what I mean, and so they lived in Fort Worth and David was making six figures. They would invite family members to stay for a week at a time once a year and would go to theme parks like Disney and Six Flags, all paid for by the Turpin family. Louise's sister, Teresa, would say that at this time the family home was always spotless and everyone always seemed really happy.
Speaker 2:So it seems good so far at this point.
Speaker 1:Right, but they were definitely definitely living beyond their means. Oh, and I actually filed for bankruptcy the first time in 1992. They only had two kids at this point. Oh yeah, by 1998, they now had six children and all the lavish family trips stopped. And when the oldest child, jennifer, started attending school, she was picked on because she was dirty and smelly and she actually had a candy bar wrapper being used as a scrunchie to pull her hair back. Wow yeah. So a lot went downhill from 92 to 98. And I don't this to me. I don't understand why this isn't reported. And I don't this to me. I don't understand why this isn't reported. When a kid has a candy bar wrapper in their hair as a ponytail holder, you need to say something. Start with the parents and if she's, you can. I mean teachers know. Teachers know when a kid is being made fun of because they're dirty and smelly. They can look right at them and see that they're dirty and smelly. That usually means that there's problems in the home.
Speaker 2:Who else is better to know about kids than somebody who's around a whole lot of different kids Right, and I mean and they're all like mandatory reporters.
Speaker 1:So that's. That's just where a lot of this, a lot of things just go unsaid, unreported.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Definitely noticed. Things could have been prevented. Yeah yeah, y'all better say something If my kid's doing something crazy and goes to school smelly.
Speaker 1:Right, Like I'm mad if my kid smells like body odor just walking past me in my own house.
Speaker 2:I'm upset. We're going to tell him to begin with.
Speaker 1:Yes, if there's something shady that we need to know about, about our own child, tell me. And you know and actually it might have been looked into a little bit because shortly after that they started homeschooling the kids now I'm pulling them out I don't want to put this, uh, put a bad stigma on that, because we are now homeschooling our kid, but it's not because he was dirty and smelly and we're unclean, it's because he was having it does get smelly though yeah, he does, but we make him wash.
Speaker 2:He has to. He has to wash. Yes, 11 year old now it's a body of a 14 year old.
Speaker 1:It's a fight, but we make him wash.
Speaker 3:He don't always do the best job, but we don't live in filth.
Speaker 1:His clothes are clean, they smell like tide pots, okay, but anyways, for the in this, in this situation, they pulled them kids out because they was getting a little attention put on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and everything in the household was just went way the fuck down and they really they really weren't homeschooling them.
Speaker 1:Um, according to Jennifer, like she remembers, at first it was like that and then it just it went downhill, but we're gonna keep on with the story. So, in 1999, they now have seven children and moved to a more secluded area in Rio Vista, texas. This was on a farm, basically, and the new owners of their previous home was horrified at the mess that was left behind, which also included, like scratches on doors, feces on the walls, and they assumed that this was made by animals.
Speaker 2:Them poor ass kids. I know Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Now I do want to say one of my main sources for this case was from Jennifer Turpins. She's the oldest from her book called when Was God, and it's so sad because she apologizes right off the top that it may not be. What's the word grammatically? No, that can't be right. It doesn't have all the correct grammar but it was still easy to listen to. It was you got the moral of the story? You know what I mean. You got are not the moral, but you understood what she was talking about.
Speaker 2:The best she can, yes with education very low education level right and me. I've graduated at least from high school and been around a whole bunch of stuff and I still seem ignorant as fuck. It's the Appalachian in me.
Speaker 1:It's deep-rooted, deep-rooted. So now when they get to Rio Vista. At first the Turpin children were allowed to play with other kids in this area, but that didn't last long. One neighbor recalls how white the kids hands were, like they were wearing gloves, but actually that was only the only clean part of their body.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was just that damn dirty Right the neighbor said that the children told her it was a waste of water to clean anything above your wrist. Yeah, now, instead of reporting this, the neighbor just stopped interacting with the Turpins and didn't let her kid interact with them anymore. And David and Louise stopped letting their kids out during the day at all and they were only allowed out at night and they had to stay close to home so to avoid society completely they only their fucking minds they only let their kids out at night and they're literally living nocturnally, yeah they
Speaker 2:should have lost their kids a long fucking time ago. Oh yeah, somebody would have took way better.
Speaker 1:Care, man, come on another neighbor said that they saw two of the poys digging in the trash can for food, but still nothing was reported, just nosy neighbors that wanted to talk on TV after all this is yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't say nothing. Sons of bitches.
Speaker 1:Now Jennifer says that in this house it was ankle deep in trash, god and human and animal waste. She said they had like six dogs so they got dogs and human shit?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I think they uh, oh oh, I did not put this in my story, but she shares in her book how she had gotten a kitten, just fell in love with this animal and, um, and all the dogs mainly lived outside and, for some reason, her parents after a couple of years of her having this cat I don't remember the exact distance, so please either read or listen to her book on audible when was God? Um, she says that her parents basically just made her let the cat, knowing that the dogs would attack it and kill it. Yeah, little Smokey, and that just like shattered her whole world.
Speaker 2:You know, at that point, Well, here's what I want to try to figure out right now. How in the fuck did her parents, how did these two human beings decide that this is just going to be their lifestyle? They, they didn't have that growing up as as well, there is no real answer, I mean unfortunately.
Speaker 1:But jennifer does talk about how, as as a child, she remembers her mother being this wonderful person, but her father was always kind of abusive towards her mother and then slowly over the years her mother just starts getting meaner and nastier and filthier, and it just so something between the two mental.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like Jennifer said one day between them, and I'm going to talk about that here in just a second yeah. He had broke her to the point where she just didn't give a fuck, and then he didn't care that she didn't care, and then it just kept.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I got a lot more story. So yeah, I'm still on the first page here.
Speaker 2:OK, I'm just.
Speaker 1:So Jennifer said that when she would try to clean, her mother would get mad at her, her, and dump all the trash that she had cleaned up. She would dump it back on the floor, she says in the house. In the house there were snake beds, mice nest and spiders everywhere. She actually developed this huge arachnophobia because she was getting something from under one of the beds one day and she pulled her arm out and was covered in spiders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Jennifer so she Like a hoarder house, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, completely, that's what it was.
Speaker 2:And all these kids running around and you get.
Speaker 1:There's several, there's a 2020 special and there is documentaries on YouTube. There is a documentary that I could not. It's not, it wasn't on any of the apps that we already pay for and I wasn't going to pay for another one. So I, like I said, my main source for this was Jennifer's book. So, jennifer, she actually attempted to escape and got about three miles from home and was picked up. She didn't know any key facts about she was 20, by the way, at this time. Okay, she didn't know any any key facts about her life. Um, she, she did know her age. She didn't know who the president was, and all she wanted to know was how she could get a job, an apartment and a car. So the person that picked her up took her into town and Jennifer started walking around. She found a daycare because she was the oldest, so she'd been basically taking care of these kids since she was of age, you know, to be in charge of her younger siblings.
Speaker 2:She was the one really doing anything and probably trying to give them some kind of she said around the age of 11.
Speaker 1:When she was 11 is when her mother just basically made her start doing everything Like cooking and it was microwave shit for her siblings.
Speaker 2:Her parents went out all the time and would leave them for days at a time and they would just eat the food, throw the shit on the floor and walk away.
Speaker 1:And they would buy that. And I felt bad, because we buy shit for us too, but at the same time our kids don't want for anything, we just have our certain things.
Speaker 2:That we can't split up, who doesn't?
Speaker 1:Right, you know, but our kids aren't starving by any means we buy them shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have their own shit, right yeah.
Speaker 1:But so she? She went to a daycare and she asked how she could get a job. They gave her an application, but Jennifer didn't know her address, her Social Security number, nor did she have an ID. She felt defeated and actually thought about jumping in front of a moving vehicle to end her life. But she says God told her not to and to trust in him. So she says that she found a little house by a church and knocked on the door and a sweet couple took her in. They cleaned her up, fed her and took her to a football game. But the next day she says that it was God. But in my most humble opinion, Jennifer, if you listen to this this is just my humble opinion it was probably a mixture of fear and Stockholm Syndrome. She called her mother to come get her. Yeah, she was 20. She was thinking about everybody else and she was thinking about her siblings. That's what she's done since she was 11.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, that's what that was. Poor Jennifer, poor everybody in this whole ass family. Oh God, I I know it's just and it, okay, let's.
Speaker 1:Let's get there before I talk about that. Okay, so right before jennifer's escape, david lost his job and the family went into severe debt and their farm was foreclosed on. So they just packed up and left. The neighbors decided to take a peek in on this abandoned home and it was, of course, absolute squalor. And was it reported?
Speaker 2:no, once again, no. Follow them. Go find out who these people are. They're fixing to live somewhere else like this with all these kids.
Speaker 1:The pets were left behind. There was like a pig and dogs all left behind that were just surviving on trash. The neighbor shelly, who had previously interacted with the Turpin kids. She saw that there were ropes that were tied to the bunk beds and just assumed that the kids had done that. Not that these kids were being tortured in their own home, but she sure wanted to talk about it later. But she didn't report a thing. She was nosy, nancy.
Speaker 2:We just had three people move out of our cul-de-sac and if I didn't, if I Hadn't seen Just the common shit Set out of the curb, and then you can peer in, because they're moving In and out and you can see these nice Cleaned out houses.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it felt a little like it was two foot deep, our neighbor's garage. Was way more organized Than ours was way more organized than ours.
Speaker 2:We try so hard, we got too much play shit and then he goes out there and plays with all the play shit. I mean we have?
Speaker 1:yeah, because we have stuff for Christmas and camping and beach and kids, old football shit and pictures and festivals and yeah, all this.
Speaker 2:So he goes out there and plays and screws it all out.
Speaker 1:And then he's got his drum set out there and, yeah, like our neighbor, but it's not nasty. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying, if I rode by any of those houses and seen it two foot deep In trash and animals and shit and 15 kids piling out and look like they're still living in caves. You know I would have been.
Speaker 1:They're going to report it, especially if you know kids are involved, especially if you know if 13 fucking kids are involved? Yeah, because these houses that these kids are living in are not much bigger than what's in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2:13 of them, well, even if they left and it was hard for us to have four in this house if they were completely gone from this state, I would be like somebody needs to come find out where these people just moved to, because what they were doing in their life when they left it needs to be to be checked out Well yeah, in these days too, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like that house was foreclosed on, yes, but somebody bought the previous house before they moved out. They didn't come and look at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the hush mouth bullshit. Yeah, fuck that. And then they want to talk shit later.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, right, right, fuck. So when, when David and Louise picked up Jennifer, her mom was crying and apologizing, saying things would change. But as soon as they got to the hotel that the family was now living in, all that shit went right out the window. So they even told Jennifer that they could have her arrested for child neglect, since she had been the one in charge of all the siblings. What, yeah, her parents told her that.
Speaker 2:I'd have beat the shit out of my parents. They told me some shit like that.
Speaker 1:These kids couldn't beat the shit out of nothing because they were malnourished. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But like doing all that, I'd have been like y'all kids, y'all kids, y'all, come with me. Right now we all going to go expose all of this.
Speaker 1:But I wish that the people that Jennifer had stayed the night with had intervened.
Speaker 2:They were like you know Giving and caring, but at the same time they kind of turned their back on. They had to have seen how smelly and stinky she was.
Speaker 3:She had to have told them she was a 20-year-old woman who was the size of a 12-year-old.
Speaker 2:And probably talking like a 12-year-old. She had nothing to go off from.
Speaker 1:Right it was just. So they stayed in several extended day hotels and then made their move to Marietta, california, into a cul-de-sac neighborhood, surprisingly Now. Previously, david and Louise had been super religious didn't drink, didn't smoke, gamble or even go out to a bar occasionally. Now, 10 kids and a couple decades into their married life later, they decide now is the time to party and sow their wild oats. And that is literally a quote from them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm so fucking disgusting, these people even got into witchcraft and swinging and there's nothing wrong with either one of those, but when you neglect your 13 children, take a go and do some bullshit everything you're done, doing yes you and everything you're doing yeah what the fuck, lindsey?
Speaker 1:david even arranged for louise to sleep with another man in a hotel while he waited outside, and this was recorded for David to view for his pleasure later on. Holy shit, catch me outside. How about that? A year later, david bought the same room and slept with his wife in the same bed to remember that event. And then their wild days came to a close.
Speaker 2:They shot the fuck out, lindsay. I'm like I don't know what to do right now. I don't have some squirming, I'm squirming and then I don't know. I just want to go and fix this. I want to go fix it right now.
Speaker 1:I can't well, and then they said their wild days came to a close, it was over with. So, david, now david and louise decided disgusting. David, david and Louise decided to open a school called the Sandcastle Day School, but the only students were their own children and they didn't do much teaching because Jordan would go on to say that she never, she doesn't even remember finishing like third grade yeah, level of schooling. And she said that like she would try to teach her siblings things and her parents would get on to her about it, like she would try to teach them shit that she knew and and, literally wanting to be on my way, I know.
Speaker 2:Go grab them youngins up, I know, and let them hang out in the backyard in a kiddie pool for a while. Yes, come in, and I know.
Speaker 1:Like we'll just take all the couches out, line up the beds and and just have them rotate taking showers, and you know, I know there's something, somebody, somebody knew somebody, I mean there's just.
Speaker 2:I mean we already see there's been quite a few people that could have reported running into all kind of shit there that should have happened and I just I'm so up in arms right now, I just want to go, I want to go, I want to go fix it somehow.
Speaker 1:In 2014, they moved to Paris, california, and actually allowed the oldest boy to attend community college. Classmates would say that on days that there was food in class, like donuts or pizza, the turpin boy would eat nonstop. And you know and I know, I've never been starving at any time in my life. But if I'll go like a 24 hour fast and I start eating, I like have to make myself stop or I'm going to be sick, and that's just 24 hours.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been around somebody like that? In that situation where they have like a, you can tell that that person situation where they have like a no.
Speaker 2:You can tell that that person over there just really is hungry. No, and that's so sad it is, it is very that's, I mean. I so super sympathize with all of this because I have literally been in that situation where you're the person that shows up and you watch them physically, just engulf all that just as much as they can, because they don't get it, you know. That's. That's why I'm like up at arms right now. I want to go and fix it right now. You're going to make me be a social worker or some bullshit. This ain't you.
Speaker 1:You're going to make me go sign up for be a good one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I would. I would be classified as a bad one because I'm fucking pissing off everybody by doing my fucking job, right thing right exactly that would be me. I would get fired very quick because I actually did my fucking job. Yeah, damn, lindsey, you're making me go down the roots of me.
Speaker 1:You're breaking me down into my roots, I know well, let me get through this story and then you can share, I know.
Speaker 2:We're wrestling later after this one.
Speaker 1:In 2015,. Child number 13 was born and David arranged for a vow renewal in Las Vegas. Elvis impersonator and all and all 13 kids were in attendance, and you can watch this on YouTube.
Speaker 2:He should have got a scrotum removal while he did his vow renewal.
Speaker 1:Now the kids are matching in this video. I watched it. They're matching and clean, but look so tiny and some of them can't even walk properly.
Speaker 2:It's very Well they was tying them kids up and keeping them all huckle buck.
Speaker 1:Well, and they're malnourourished, so they're not growing and developing. I mean, you know, the little ones, oh god, it just yeah, but that would keep them in rooms and shit.
Speaker 2:Let them walk and go play exactly have a life.
Speaker 1:I can't believe all this man and it's just and knowing what you know it's, it's cringe and terrifying as fuck, like just watching this family. Oh god, I, I'm going to pause really quick, you guys. I have to show I have to show Jesse a picture. I can already imagine, every aspect in every single room, of David Turpin. This motherfucker has the worst haircut ever known to mankind and you have a name for it and I can't remember it off the top of my head.
Speaker 2:Hold on. Yes, I have a name for his haircut. Yes, oh, here we go. But I can imagine every single room, every single situation and this woman, this young woman, having to take charge and at least give them something in life.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, jennifer deeply cared for her siblings.
Speaker 2:There he is. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Humperdinck, humperdinck, yes, engelbert, style.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, and it's even worse, his haircut it's even worse when he's younger.
Speaker 1:I can't pull any of those pictures up His haircut looks like 1960s Tupperware. That's it, that's it, that is it. Oh man Like 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's the lost BG.
Speaker 1:That's David Turpin. He is just completely horrific and I want to just tell you yeah, I can't find any of the younger ones, but you can see it on the YouTube video if you decide to watch the vow renewal. I want to beat him all over and for and for some of these kids Over and over again. For some of these kids it was the first time outside of the walls of their own home.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I'm sorry, like I really want to go fight this dude. Oh yeah, I'm not a violent dude.
Speaker 1:He's got a punchable face and so does his wife, I'll show you very little bit.
Speaker 2:I want to hit him with a two-by-four. That already hit him and gave him his haircut.
Speaker 1:I do want you to watch the 2020 special. It's only like an hour after this, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I want to get a two-by. I'm on a hacksaw. Jim Duggan his ass.
Speaker 1:So Jennifer says that before California the abuse was mainly put on her. David would beat her With the belt until she bled For anything that he said that she did wrong, and he even hit her in the head with the belt Buckle. That dude that dude right there. He did some shit like this to people. He did that.
Speaker 2:He had that kind of household. He hung out in his car, was always getting banged, he mistreated his kids and have pigs and shit in his house and two foot of garbage and feces.
Speaker 1:And has beaten this little girl and she all these kids are little, I mean little defenseless creatures. Little, I mean little defenseless creatures. I mean she said when they got to California at first things were OK. They were going on vacations again and they even got a year pass to a theme park. She says that they bought toys and gifts but those would be quickly taken away as punishments most of the time. And she said Louise would have designer purses and collectible dolls, like when they go in and investigate this house, like there's all kind of new shit still in packages. That's, that's Louise's like toys. They're not the kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what she looked like. Is it my turn to see that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I can show you, louise.
Speaker 2:I'm shooting on a piece of ice right now because I'm already out of bourbon. But, Lindsay, if she is Engelbert Humperdinck style too, I want to die laughing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. Ok, here's the picture of them at their vow renewal. Look at the hair.
Speaker 2:Look at him.
Speaker 1:Look at the hair.
Speaker 2:So, OK, he looks like the big dude with the nail in his head on Happy.
Speaker 1:Gilmore yes, that's her. After everything went down. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Haggard old bulldog.
Speaker 1:Haggard old bulldog.
Speaker 2:I don't make fun of people's looks by any means, but she deserves it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, fuck her, fuck her, she deserves it. Oh yeah, fuck her, fuck her, fuck him, fuck them both. But yeah, that's them side by side, uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this looks like warts. They look like warts on somebody's genitalia.
Speaker 1:So Jennifer says that they would eat better food than the kids saying they couldn't afford to feed them the food that they were eating. Yeah, those would eat better food than the kids saying they couldn't afford to feed them the food that they were eating. Yeah, they that those words came out of their mouth. Jennifer says that after they had been in california for a while, the abuse got shifted to the other siblings. She said that her mother would now physically throw them across the room saying she wishes they would die and then chain them up. Then why? Why have kids, Right? Why the hell you have kids? Jennifer says that one time her parents were going to set her up with a guy and they actually told her that if she didn't have sex with him he would probably trigger warning, rape her.
Speaker 2:But Like she just might as well go ahead and give it up.
Speaker 1:It didn't go through. But Jennifer, like she says that, as well, go ahead and give it up. It didn't go through. But jennifer, like she says that she knew that if any dude that she was going to end up with was going to have to be picked by her parents, because they had her in complete bondage she never got out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jennifer says that when she was 29. This is how long this poor girl is in this house Twenty nine, almost 30 years old, looks like she's 12. When she was 29, she was washing dishes and Louise just looked at her and said I always knew you grew up to be a slut and go to hell. I've always known to watch you closely and she never kissed a dude, yet no, she's never been with a guy at all.
Speaker 2:She never went out the only time that she's been outside her house was when she escaped for a day, and with how horrifically beaten in to their heads it is, she took that so personally so personally.
Speaker 1:I mean she talks about it in her book. Yeah so hard. Complete PTSD from this entire her entire life.
Speaker 2:Couldn't clap back, no, and couldn't run, because she was in fear of everybody else. God, this is horrible Lindsay.
Speaker 1:So Jennifer had been hearing about her parents talk about another move, this time to Oklahoma, where they planned on keeping the children chained at all times or in cages. David had been laid off from his job in Paris and had already accepted a position in Oklahoma. Now Jennifer and her sister Jordan had been planning another escape for about two years. Jennifer was too afraid to do it all by herself again, as she had tried once and failed, and after that everything just got worse. So she wanted to make sure, if her sister had gotten out and not been able to return with help, that she would at least be there to protect her siblings.
Speaker 2:You know what my saving grace is behind all this? 99.9% of the people that will hear our fucking voices would never live like that.
Speaker 1:No, no, the .1% might, yeah, and if they do and if there is one out there that's living like this and they hear this, maybe something will go up and be like you know what I need to go get some help or something. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:If I get to that point, I'll let my kids go. Y'all just go, y'all just go. I'll take whatever fucking punishment they give me, because it's got to be way better than this. Don't fucking have kids. If you're not ready to have kids mentally, physically, financially Don't fucking have kids. This is fucking. You want to chain them, fucking kids up in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:That was their absolute plan. They wanted to keep them.
Speaker 2:He needs to put his finger in his ass and mine Arkansas by himself. That's what he needs to do.
Speaker 1:Now, jennifer had a phone at this time and the parents were paying the bill, and it was closely monitored what she was doing on the phone. This phone was mainly so that David and Louise could keep in contact with her while they were either at work or out doing their own thing, you know, because they did that a lot and so the plan was to use a deactivated phone that was still able to call 911, and it needed to be done before the move to Oklahoma. So on January 14th 2018, the call was made and the police came pretty quickly to the Turpin home. One fact that really stood out to me is that one of the kids, who was around 11 years old their arms were the same circumference of a four month old baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That just like that Lindsay. That fact just like. But they showed up, they're there, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's how malnourished. That's what we shared earlier.
Speaker 2:Right, yes, that's, they're there, that's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's when the call was made. Yeah. Here we go, we have fast forwarded now to 2018 and they are now in. But that's how malnourished these kids were. An 11-year-old had the arm size of a four-month-old baby. Yeah, my three-year-old granddaughter doesn't even have this arm the size.
Speaker 2:We got chunky ass grandkids. I love it.
Speaker 1:We got chonky grandbibles. But praise be yes Under his eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all that, fuck yeah. Under the boardwalk Whatever, boardwalk whatever. Under all that, under the bridge downtown.
Speaker 1:So David and Louise were arrested and charged with 12 counts of false imprisonment, 7 counts of abuse of a dependent adult and 6 counts of child abuse.
Speaker 2:And 1 count of a bad fucking haircut.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. Well, David also had a charge of lewd acts on a child under 14. Now see, a lot of this case is not as deep, but there's so many underage kids that a lot of those facts have to be Right, and that's why only Jordan and Jennifer, I think, and one other and Joseph they're the only ones that I have found names on, because the other's identity was completely protected Of Joseph, damn.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. All of them, though, like each individual human being, went through so much trauma, so much garbage.
Speaker 1:Well, he also had another charge of perjury on affidavits he had filed about the kids education, because you know, yeah, they don't give a shit Right. So on February 22nd 2019, they pled guilty to one count of torture, three counts of child abuse, four counts of false imprisonment and six counts of cruelty of dependent adults.
Speaker 2:Every human being in that fucking building was abused. Oh yeah, even their selves. They were self-abusing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely Count them in too. Can you do that Can? Absolutely Count them in too, can you do that?
Speaker 2:Can you fucking do that? It's all fucking there.
Speaker 1:That's what they were. They were charged with all the others, but they only pled. You know, they only plead to the lower you know lower amounts.
Speaker 2:I would hate to be their fucking lawyer, dude. I would hate to be their fucking lawyer. I would not be there. I would lose my job.
Speaker 1:Well, they were both sentenced to life without the possibility of parole after 25 years. But the story doesn't end there, really. All the children spent about two months in the hospital due to heart damage from lack of nutrition, cognitive impairments and neuropathy.
Speaker 3:That's where, like your limbs go numb and shit yeah.
Speaker 1:The six minor children were placed in two separate foster homes, and five of them were adopted by a family who also turned out to be abusive. Shitty again, I know this is where I'm going to tear up, because that's why I don't want to be a social worker.
Speaker 2:I don't want to do it. Why, why didn't they get the fucking platinum package?
Speaker 1:This is where my faith in anything gets really tested, because I want to know why these children Look how mad. You are right now. Why do children have to go through stuff like this Right?
Speaker 2:It doesn't, it hurts. They didn't ask for shit, they didn't even ask to exist.
Speaker 1:They didn't ask to be here.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not going to cry no, do it, just do it. I'm fixing to do it too.
Speaker 1:This family hit these already severely damaged children in the face with sandals, they pulled their hair, they beat them with belts and would strike them in the head. They were forced to overeat, and when they would throw up from that, they were forced to eat their own fucking vomit Fancy oh. Why do people exist like this?
Speaker 2:I'm with you, dude, I'm so with you right now. This is horrible, again, again.
Speaker 1:They had no fucking light on that end, and the foster father was also accused of grabbing, fondling and kissing them on the mouth. Now this family would go on to be arrested as well. But what the actual fuck? There was other families, too, that watched more of the YouTube videos. Because that was as much as I could write down without being just fucking absolutely enraged.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you got content on 11 humans, yes, and all what the fuck really happened, and then they're getting shit on again. It's nonstop, it's goodness, and then check this out.
Speaker 1:So when the initial investigation happened on the Turpin parents, over $600,000 was raised for the children and put into a trust controlled by this absolute cunt of a woman named Vanessa Espinoza and she she denied Joseph Turpin, the person, a purchase of not a car, not a motorcycle, a fucking bicycle for transportation, for transportation. She just wanted something. He didn't ask for anything else other than a fucking bicycle and he was denied. Now I did the very simple math and that six hundred thousand dollars divided by 13 is around 46 000, which is plenty of money for these older kids to get a decent car paid off and and and uh, probably a little studio apartment. They just wanted a fucking chance, right, they just wanted a chance.
Speaker 2:And they've already been through enough.
Speaker 1:They've already been through enough. Why are you doing this to them?
Speaker 3:Well, she got arrested too.
Speaker 1:There's a whole story on that. She's covered in that special, so fucking horrific. And this money was raised by the public.
Speaker 2:I bet you could spend another two days and we could talk for two months on this shit.
Speaker 1:There's parts that there's some podcasters that cover two and three parts on this. I had to make it small because I could not be enraged about this family you are. I know I'm like I'm red inside right now.
Speaker 2:Listen to me.
Speaker 1:I was watching inside out with the, with the grandbaby, at like three in the morning and I'm that little red dude.
Speaker 2:That little red dude is all in me, right now listen to me about human existence real quick, because I'm fixing to fuck you up again. Well, you're clenching your fist and you're saying, god, god, god. Imagine the thousands of fucking years.
Speaker 1:Shit like this and even worse is going on oh, I know, I know, I know and I can picture every single room in this household and I've been in houses almost like that.
Speaker 2:I've been around people almost like that. It is so fucking disgusting. And I've been around a haircut almost like that, and it's so fucking disgusting.
Speaker 1:He looks like that dude on the Princess Bride, the white ghosty guy. Yeah, what's his name? I don't know, he's got the pale lips good morrow, abbott.
Speaker 2:Hey, I bet I hate that guy. Kind of looks like that guy too, like when he's walking and he's all like good morrow, good morrow, good morrow. Hey, I bet there he is. There he is with the fucking little haircut on princess bride.
Speaker 1:No I'm thinking of the ghostly white dude that's who came to mind. You know what I'm talking about the ghostly white dude that's who came?
Speaker 2:to mind you know, I'm talking about the torturer guy. The torturer guy, yes, the six-fingered. The six-fingered yeah, he was working for the six-fingered, the six, the six yeah, six-fingered man, my name is eminu toya. You put my father and prepare to die, and that was a great movie. I'm trying to bring some kind of light into it. But imagine all the little boys and stuff that had all their genitalia cut to be in church and sing for church.
Speaker 1:Well, and the Native Americans?
Speaker 2:Imagine all the people that used to march on fields and take over whole civilizations. In the name of God. I know what kind of God was that too? So you're questioning all of that.
Speaker 1:I know it hurts. I have to stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2:It hurts, it's man, it's man. Oh no, I know, I know. Just remember that and I do, and I'm not trying to stick on any side of any religion or any ideological bullshit.
Speaker 1:It's fucking man, why can't the children be saved? Why can't the children where's where's the light?
Speaker 2:yeah, but I mean, but it's been going on for human existence, just period. Disgusting.
Speaker 1:His haircut is fucking disgusting, so Jordan Turpin, the Turpin girl who made the 911 call. She was released without notice from her foster home without any life skills, plan for housing or how to obtain food and health care. Why, why?
Speaker 2:don't you set them up while you're there? Well, hold on, we're getting to the light, we're getting to the light.
Speaker 1:So the Turpin Children filed lawsuits and ABC 2020 did investigate and, like they, did their fucking work and they also and they have a special case on this and the main updates that I have found that are that Tyler Perry has been providing support and care for the Turpin children.
Speaker 1:He's such a beautiful human being oh yeah, and Jennifer was married last year in October with all her siblings in attendance. Jennifer is on Instagram. She has written the book. Where was God? I'm trying not to break down, so we're tagging Jenny in this. Yes, and I listened to her book on audio and she has a website and I want to order from. I want to order some of her jewelry. It's called Dawn's Designs that's her middle name.
Speaker 2:So we're tagging Dawn's Designs.
Speaker 1:Yes, so her name is Jennifer Dawn Turpin, and Dawn's Designs is the name of the website where you can order her jewelry that she makes and she has that listed in her bio and she is also a. Now she has become a phlebotomist and is a huge supporter of the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 2:Okay, do you think, do you?
Speaker 1:think that's awesome and that wraps up.
Speaker 2:So we're tagging all that, tagging all the cool stuff so fucking amazing. I may reach out to Jennifer herself I hate it.
Speaker 1:I will tag her website, but I may reach out to Jennifer personally for her permission to tag her, because she may not want to be relived.
Speaker 2:We're tagging her jewelry shit. I'm going to tag her website, for sure. We're going to plug your shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely, you know, relived Right.
Speaker 1:Tagging her jewelry. I'm going to tag her website. We're going to plug your shit. Yeah, absolutely yeah. Support, cute little thing, anything else?
Speaker 2:Like if, if we get in contact with any any more, we're going to add, you know, if there's any more stuff that we can add for her, her siblings, anybody else? That's relative our way. I want to know, I want to be part of any support for anything Like I just felt they need the fucking golden ticket pass in life from here on, and if we can help in any way, hey, there's your smile, I know.
Speaker 1:Well, and just listening to her book I could just tell what a beautiful human being she is. Now, she didn't narrate the book, but I just pictured her. I looked up her picture and I just heard her words and just knowing what she went through, and I just, you know, I just sat and listened and just my heart bled. I mean it just bled, and I wanted to just find her and hug her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been around a lot of poverty growing up and noticed a lot of things and remember a lot of things and a lot of things I've shut, shut out of my mind. You know, and I can picture every situation in that room, except for the tying up and abuse stuff. I didn't really ever see any of that. No, but the hoardering, the filth, the squander, the just nasty ass way of life. I've seen it a few times and I sympathize with every single human being in this story Unfortunately even the parents, because they're fucking shot out. Yeah, but I'm glad they're away, I'm glad all this really happened.
Speaker 1:Now I've had a few friends whose parents weren't as clean as my family was, but I never seen anything like that until I remember watching.
Speaker 2:To the extent where you're waiting in their house.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I remember watching the first episode of Hoarders and I thought that it was made up. Yeah, I was like there's no way, I've seen it. And I mean I remember that on that particular episode they found a flattened out dead cat yeah, like in this person's house under trash and I screamed because I was like I've been in houses where you don't move shit, you don't move it around, so horrifically, lindsay, thank you, and you just kind of fucking puddled me on this deal.
Speaker 2:And thank you, jennifer, for writing your book and letting us and telling us about your story, giving us the opportunity, us podcasters, the world. Thank you so much I'm sorry about your life and I hope it's the golden ticket from here on.
Speaker 1:And for Jordan and Jennifer, who have both been in the public to tell this story, and Jennifer, who have both been in the public to tell this story, and because, unfortunately, some of the siblings they still got the shit stick after that. Well, and they also still sympathize with their parents. So yeah, yeah, but that's going to take some growing and learning and some therapy and all that yeah.
Speaker 3:They'll overcome that Cause.
Speaker 1:you got to understand a lot of these children were still way under age. Like I said, they ranged from Jennifer was 29 and the baby was two.
Speaker 2:Anybody that gets in that situation, stay in positive. Well, I mean.
Speaker 1:And then you got to think you know, five of them went to another abusive home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I mean Fucking A, fucking A, it sucks so bad.
Speaker 1:So bad. The system failed them. But thank you, tyler Perry for everything that you've done and all the other you know celebrity figures that have stepped down I know Oprah had some, yeah. And thank you, abc for stepping in and doing your investigation and helping these kids, oh God. And helping these kids, oh God, because it could have just all been swept under the rug.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could have. Could have just kept going downhill. I'm glad it came out, thank you.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's turn this car around. And what are you? What band are we plugging this week? What band have you found for us to listen to?
Speaker 2:I've been so geeky.
Speaker 1:I know. Your face just lit up.
Speaker 2:It's been on my heart all week long.
Speaker 1:I know and I was looking forward to playing this band this is how I feel when I'm like everything's on the tip of my tongue. I don't want to spill all the story to you, but I got to wait. I got to wait.
Speaker 2:Broken Hearts and Nickels. Broken Hearts and Nickels Is the name of this group. Okay, and I believe it's a three-piece group. I did a little research on it and I'm not completely 100% sure, but I think this song and a little bit of another song is their legacy. That's it, and I'm saddened because I want so much more material from this, but I'm not sure, 100% sure. I think the drummer passed away.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, the singer's a little bit older guy. The bass player like like all these guys are from a huge music background. Okay, they all have wikis, all of them, and they're just amazing artists.
Speaker 1:the lyrics in this are they like a mini super group?
Speaker 2:mini super group I found, and I just it's this song's to stick in your fucking head, okay, and I want to play it right now, I'm just so. This song is called little Ray and the hard truth.
Speaker 1:Okay. And little Ray and the hard truth. And what's the name of the band? One more time, broken hearts and nickels. Broken hearts and nickels. Love it.
Speaker 2:I spend a lot of time trying to keep my hands on the system. If I can, let me simplify I'm a poison drinking venom sitting here. Well, I'm too far, so I search for redemption. I'm a dashboard, and the only thing that saved me is a memory of a future I used to be mine. I walk into the fire, I keep on running, I'm always searching.
Speaker 3:Show me the light so I can force it and leave it there for life. Love me. Scars and broken hearts. With nickels I have a thousand dollars In love. I love you. No peace for me. Yeah, you're one for the great, and the others on the fly Are reaching this earth beneath. I walk into the fire. I keep on going, I'm holding search and you'll be alive so I can force you To leave here to rely. We'll be right back. What do you think, lindsay?
Speaker 1:I know that voice. What other band has he been in?
Speaker 2:I don't remember. We need to do. I need to do a little bit more research.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I know that voice. These guys have been in some big shit. What?
Speaker 2:band is that? Oh my God, I found them. And he's all like, yeah, man, play our jams, whatever. And I only found. And he's all like, yeah, man, play our jams, whatever. And I only found like two songs. It's like I wanted so much more and I did a wiki look on all three of the members and apparently it said that the drummer had passed away just a few months ago. And I'm just like dude, I want so much more from these guys. They're so fucking amazing.
Speaker 1:This song just sticks in your soul doesn't it?
Speaker 2:yes, it was so smooth and, like I said, it's gonna drive me crazy and you can tell that he's an older dude but he has all the lyrics, the best lyrics that I've heard this year. Swear to god. They're so gripping into my soul. I don't know why. I don't know why I want, want, so much more.
Speaker 1:Broken what Broken hearts and nickels right.
Speaker 2:Broken hearts and nickels.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, love them to death man. So fucking fire dude. He's just like a fine piece behind a dashboard at night, you know, and I'm all like dude, I've been there, I've been there, just amazing. So yeah, upon Lindsay's research research, real quick, we just checked it out. I think it's posted backwards. I think it's the band little ray and the hard truth is the band. So little ray is the singer right yes, that's what it says.
Speaker 1:According to, the song was called broken hearts and neck, so I was back.
Speaker 2:Yes, love them so much. I want to get this shit right. Apologies, all around, fucking fire ass band, though follow them. There are two songs out. Follow them. Just just support whatever. And just you know, hey, amazing project, perfect lyrics. It hit my soul, dude, I'm gonna play that song for hours when we go up north. Lindsey, you're gonna hear that song 15 times okay I'm driving yeah heard but yeah that's my restaurant lingo coming out there heard.
Speaker 1:Isn't it good though? Yes, I mean like it was so groovy.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it has an old throwback style, but at the same time this dude is spitting some fucking badass shit that's modern at the same time I'm telling you I've heard that voice before.
Speaker 1:Like I said, it reminds me of whitey ford, but I'm telling you I've heard that voice somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Yes, either way, mr ray, do some more stuff. I don't know, I don't know what really happened there. I just I did a little bit of research, but I was looking backwards, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't understand and that's okay, cause that's why your wife is here to investigate. But on here on.
Speaker 2:Spotify it was the other way, so but that's fine, I've done the same shit. Maybe, maybe it's just how it came out, but fucking love them. They're in my fucking soul. Once you hear it, once you got to hear it more, right, that's the kind of music I love to play. Yes, little Ray.
Speaker 1:Yes, lil Ray, and you were already over there spitting out the verses and stuff and I'm like OK, he already knows all this jam.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've heard this song so much, dude, I love him. We're going to leave this guy with you and we want you to check out every band that we've played. Yes, like, follow, share.
Speaker 1:We got a playlist All of our content.
Speaker 2:We just hooked up with another podcast that we're going to start sharing a little bit back and forth. Actually, I just tagged them and I want to. I want to keep on building this thing with you. This is fun as fuck, I know I'm starting to get a little calloused. I'm not as puddled as as I should be right now, but I am completely. Is that weird?
Speaker 1:No, well, as I would say, next week we're going to do another, more popular case because it's in the it's in the it's trending right now. So I want to go ahead and tell Jesse about that one, and you guys a lot of you will know it If you don't Great, it'll be your first time hearing it too. And then we're going to cover a few. We're going to be in Pride Month, so we're going to cover a few cases that happened in the LGBTQ plus community Awesome, yes.
Speaker 2:Awesome, awesome. Join our everything Cause. This ride at midnight behind a dashboard is just so fucking fire. Yes, we'll go into the fire.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's very. I mean mean, that voice is just like butter man. It's butter, butter and there's a fly buzzing around you that's pissing me off and y'all. We do not live in filth, but we do live in florida and there's going to be one fly in your house at all times and plants there was one over there trying to get me. He's trying. It was on your shoulder a second ago now he's.
Speaker 2:he was trying to walk into the fire too Shit.
Speaker 1:Anyway, lindsay, walk into the fire and die Fly.
Speaker 2:Let's do this shit. Yes, we'll see you guys next Friday. Yes, like share, follow, drink about something outside. All that good stuff, send us an email Tell us the other day it was really cool.
Speaker 1:Well, tell us about some things true crime situations that you've been in. Or if there's a local band that you think that we should seek out to play on our pod, Tell us about that too.
Speaker 2:I'm almost up to 100 bands now. Lindsay, I know I'm all backlogged.
Speaker 1:I've got 300 cases. So yeah, you're almost caught up with me.
Speaker 2:Finding some cool ones, yeah, but um, we'll see you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can do this for a long time. We'll see you guys next friday. Yes, we love you so much. Bye.
