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EPISODE 44: Victoria Goodwin has a hit out
What drives someone to abandon a seemingly perfect life with a TV star husband for a prison romance with a convicted family killer? In this shocking episode, we unravel the disturbing case of Victoria Goodwin, who plotted to have her Ghost Adventures star husband Aaron murdered after falling in love with Grant Amato – a man serving three life sentences for killing his parents and brother.
We explore the psychology behind prison romances with violent offenders, examining why certain individuals seek connections with people who have committed horrific acts. Is it a misguided savior complex? An attraction to notoriety? Or something deeper?
This episode features our signature blend of true crime analysis, cultural commentary, and a musical interlude with Evan Boyer's haunting song "The Fear." Join us for this deep dive into one of the most twisted cases we've covered yet.
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Happy Friday, Jesse. Hey Lindsey, what are you drinking?
Speaker 3:Because you know, us girls just want to have fun. Yes, and long about. I don't know about five months ago my buddy grew some corn right and I cut it off the cob right.
Speaker 1:You did, I was there.
Speaker 3:I kind of heated it up and then I made some mash.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it smelled like it in here.
Speaker 3:She made me put it outside. So I put it outside and it fermented right. Then I decided that wasn't going to be strong enough, so I distilled it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And that's what I'm drinking.
Speaker 1:Okay, some Jesse's. Well, I don't want to say famous, it's not famous, but Jesse's Fabulous, fabulous, homemade, homemade.
Speaker 3:Moonshot, moonshot, that's what I'm drinking. What are you drinking over there, ms? Miss Lindsay?
Speaker 1:So I just finished off a blackberry white claw and I'm about to start on a strawberry.
Speaker 3:Pop it up again. Yeah, can I buy you another round? I'm so country today you are. I'm so. You know what, you know what we need.
Speaker 1:He's got a Tanya Tucker shirt on right now.
Speaker 3:We need some Tanya Tucker in this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Like two sparrows in a hurricane.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Trying to find their way. Y'all 90s country hits.
Speaker 3:We need a whole fucking day of just 90s country, hell yeah. And you got like an Ewok shirt on over there Ewok shirt yes, Is that the one that Willow was in, Because he was one of the Ewoks too, but he wore the suit right.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure We'll have to look that up. Yeah, so what's his?
Speaker 3:name. He was in a bunch of Star Wars Warwick, warwick, yeah, warwick Johnson, is it Johnson? Warwick, davis, warwick.
Speaker 1:Hold on. It might Hold on. We're gonna go real quick. Then he was in like Harry Potter, so what? Which episode is it that the Ewoks Are in?
Speaker 3:The last, the third one, episode three. Well, episode Six, it's so backwards, star Wars.
Speaker 1:We like to watch it in chronological order Return of the Jedi. Is it Return of the Jedi? Yeah, okay. So I'm a newer Star Wars nerd, so I actually love the last three episodes the most, with Rey and Kylo Ren. I'm a huge fan, huge fucking fan, like I've been watching them since I was a kid.
Speaker 3:But don't you want to live on that forest moon of Andor.
Speaker 1:I do, I mean I really do, I really do. Warwick Davis.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 1:Hold on, I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3:Yes, it is Warwick Davis. Yes, you got it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Did Warwick Davis play an Ewok? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Warwick Davis played the Ewok named Wicket W in the Return of the Jedi. He was only 11 years old.
Speaker 3:Oh, I had chills right then.
Speaker 1:Oh, baby Warwick, oh baby little Warwick. I still love him as Willow the best, honestly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that's my favorite.
Speaker 1:Barbicot, barbicot, he was so cute.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:Willow was such a good movie man and I got a grandbaby named Willow, and today was her birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we had a great little party for her.
Speaker 3:It was a great day, it was a river time out there. Yes, oh, the rivers and the springs of.
Speaker 1:Florida we had some good hammers. With so much onion I didn't want to breathe around anybody.
Speaker 3:They cook the burger so good, so good, but I was instructing. I was instructing. I was like here's how you do this, kosher ass hot dogs.
Speaker 1:Kosher hot dogs hit different they're good, we had Nathan's in Hebrew.
Speaker 3:I was loud and belligerent. I was like are these Jewish hot?
Speaker 1:dogs oh my God, they are delicious. Kosher hot dogs. I was telling your parents.
Speaker 3:I was like I'm kind of drunk so I'm loud, we need to go on a cruise and you need to get the drink package. I was telling your parents that.
Speaker 1:And my mom tried Celsius. Yeah, she had some of our Galaxy Celsius. Yeah, she was like, because water just sucks sometimes I'm like you know what, mom? You're right it does. I have been on a soda water, sparkling water, kick with some fresh squeezed lemon.
Speaker 3:Your dad being drunk is so funny. Oh, I know, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1:But so I've been on a soda sparkling water kick lately with just some freshly squeezed lemon, or if I'm at home, because at work I only have lemon, but here I have lemon and lime and I call it homemade Sprite and it's so refreshing and it's delicious and it's zero calories, zero sugar, delicious.
Speaker 3:We're going to make some homemade Sprite here pretty soon, because I just found out an old Appalachian remedy.
Speaker 1:With the pine needles, with the pine needles. Baby, I heard about it, you heard about that.
Speaker 3:I want to do that. I want to do that. I like the old school stuff like that, that everybody's losing, it's kind of coming back. I really think that the newer generation is starting to do a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1:I love home remedies, don't you love that?
Speaker 3:Yes, they're learning things that hasn't been brought up in a hundred years. Right, they're doing shit.
Speaker 1:And I love it.
Speaker 3:That's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:I really love that Literally going back to the roots.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Alpha right. Yeah, alpha right, yes, yeah, the Alpha generation is really doing some cool shit, so kudos right.
Speaker 1:Gen Z slash Alpha A little bit yeah it's late Gen Z early Alpha. Yeah.
Speaker 3:They're doing it, though, crocheting, like those shorts that are crocheted I keep talking about.
Speaker 1:Gen Z is doing a lot.
Speaker 3:And the guys are really doing some really cool stuff too, and everybody's just trying to latch on to some old stuff. I love it, it's really cool.
Speaker 1:There is one thing I want to mention before we roll that intro. So on 4th of July there was this whole thing on TikTok, where this lady had been invited to a 4th of July party by a mutual friend of the hosts. Okay, so she shows up with this banging ass antipasto salad. Okay, with shit from her garden, mozzarella cheese that she made from scratch. Like I don't even know how to do that and I'm a fucking beast in the kitchen. I don't know how to make mozzarella cheese. Okay, so she shows up with that. These people treat her like shit. What the fuck. So I was, of of course, scrolling like july 5th. I hear all about the drama. I I go into it when I'm just in my downtime scrolling on tiktok. So I follow the girl. Her name is nicole fuck, I forgot her last name, but you guys know I'm sure my listeners know about this drama. It was a big thing. You're probably not on that side of tiktok no okay.
Speaker 1:So now I follow this lady. Her name is nicole. I'm gonna get the full handle and I'll mention it next episode. She has a banging ass garden. She posts recipes and I have saved I don't know how many of them. It's like a treasure has came out of a tragedy and I just I love her. I love her so much. She is, I mean, she has like herbs and she grows heirloom tomatoes and cherry tomatoes and she's posting right now all these recipes to make with tomatoes, because she has an abundance of them, but she made, she grew, these beautiful heirloom tomatoes, which are my favorite, yeah, and we're going to make one of her recipes next week. Oh, do it, girl, for Erlen tomatoes, which are my favorite.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we're going to make one of her recipes next week. Oh, oh, yes, do it, girl.
Speaker 1:We don't even get the herbs out of our own garden over there. No, but we're going to because I've been complaining about that. Well, I'm going to. We grew a little herb garden. We don't even get out of it. We haven't cooked this summer because we've been out doing. Well, we cooked a lot, but we didn't really go a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were prepping and all that. We need to get back to that.
Speaker 1:It's really hard to do both, but we're going to learn our balance in our 40s and a few gatherings that we've had and then doing the pod and all that.
Speaker 3:So I get it. I get it. But our little herb garden was nice, that part of it. The other part, the vegetable part, kind of sucked. We got some stuff.
Speaker 1:But we got herbs for days and I'm going to use like three different ones for that recipe. So, with that being said, honey roll. That intro.
Speaker 3:Okay, but I just wanted to say this right before everybody comes on in Happy fucking Friday.
Speaker 1:So happy, it's Friday.
Speaker 3:You know that homemade moonshine be kind of hitting different already. It do's, it do's.
Speaker 1:I'm enjoying it, though Hold on, I think I found her real quick Hold on, you found her. Hold on. Nope, that's not it, oh it's not, it she got me tripping. How do you find people?
Speaker 3:you are following. I don't know, okay, what made you find people you are following. I don't know what made you feel old today.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to find people I'm following. Okay.
Speaker 3:I found it.
Speaker 1:Folk Medicine Remedies is her handle. I believe her name is Nicole. Yes, it is Nicole. Follow her, you guys, guys. She was treated like shit on 4th of July by some shitty ass white trash people, but she is a treasure on TikTok really, really good recipes. I cannot wait to cook the one that I'm gonna cook next week yeah, I, um, I love it, like they're really doing what made you feel old this week?
Speaker 3:boo-boo oh yeah, they're really doing a lot of cool stuff. Like a lot of people are bringing back that old school stuff and you're you're raising your own garden and creating these cool ass home yes, like you ain't fucking with nobody. I love that, I love that. So so what made me feel old was I kind of get that grandpa look from some of my coworkers now. Like not even like the old, like just the older man, like it's the grandpa respect and look Like elder employee look.
Speaker 1:You know, on your notes it says I get that grand pa look with a space. Yeah, it's one word and and I was like, what does grand PA mean?
Speaker 3:oh, the grand PA. Well, that too, cause you know I'm literate as shit and fucking dyslexic and all that good stuff. But I can write some cool music, I think, and my band's doing good yeah so I'm excited about that. What made you feel old other than not finding shit on you know, social media like a boomer?
Speaker 1:so, um, I took two weeks off from my high intensity workouts and I was just doing the walking and the vibration plate, but I started back because you have to take a break from it every now and then. You could kind reset your body to shock your body back in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because otherwise it's the same, with like diets and everything you get so hung into it, your body just like gets used to it. Yeah, you've got to change it up. It just stops fucking working.
Speaker 1:Right, and even when I bought the vibration plate, it says to change your programs constantly to keep your body guessing.
Speaker 3:And, by the way, I've been singing some really cool ass songs on there. Check them out.
Speaker 1:I got a few saved on the draft so I'm going to post later on. But yeah, so follow me. It's a drink about something pod underscore Lindsay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there's links like on our website too.
Speaker 1:Like, if you go down you can find the links to some socials.
Speaker 3:You'll see Jesse singing on the vibration plate.
Speaker 1:Cher was my favorite, so I started my high-intensity workouts again this week and I about died two times. So, yeah, that made me feel Because this is the one and I've said it in a couple different episodes that I still haven't mastered the full-on workout, like there's a moderate Without the modifier. Yeah, I got to still do the modifier.
Speaker 3:I'm in modifier mode, like after a minute, You'll see me crawling over there just wiggling my arm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jesse's done this. Does this count? It's insanity. It's insanity, max 30.
Speaker 3:Yes, and you're over there jumping and kicking and doing push-ups and squats and burpees.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can do the unmodified like halfway through the interval, but I got to slow it back down.
Speaker 3:I'm so pathetic, like I'm laying on the ground. I'm like fully like. I'm like a dead walrus and I'm just kicking my leg. I'm like, does this count? Am I doing good? Can somebody give me a little Debbie snack?
Speaker 1:No, debbie's, deborah, Deborah's. But we're going to start doing some meal prepping.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm excited about that, which I eat healthy.
Speaker 1:Good, but I got to get Jesse back on the whole train.
Speaker 3:We're going to try that carnivore thing because that worked for some people.
Speaker 1:We're going to fire up the grill next weekend and we're going to cook so much meat.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Mama's going to buy out Aldi.
Speaker 3:Lock up your animals. We're going to cook them all up. We're definitely going to go to the meat section, for sure, and I'm going to grill the fuck out. Lindsay, I'm excited you got. You left me with a cliffhanger last week. I did so fucking excited. You were like next level podcaster over there.
Speaker 1:I was excited that I found that information.
Speaker 3:I was like oh, my God, and like I mentioned in our recap, I had no, you really Fucking. I'm going to let you get it, oh my God. And like I mentioned in our recap, you really did. I had no, you really Fucking. I'm going to let you get it out Did, so you can stop interrupting me. You really did.
Speaker 1:I had no idea that I was going to find that information. While I was researching Grant Amato, I had no idea. With that being said, last week we talked about Grant Amato, who killed his father, mother and older brother in 2019 over his very, very unhealthy obsession with a cam model named Sylvie.
Speaker 3:It's not good.
Speaker 1:He was sentenced to three life sentences. So he has nothing, nothing but time on his hands. So he has nothing, nothing but time on his hands. So while he's in prison, he starts exchanging letters, emails and phone calls with the filmmaker Colin Archdeacon. I hope that's how you say it. That is how it's spelled. I don't know how any other way you would say it, but it is literally spelled Archdeacon and that's what I'm going to go with. That's fucking cool ass name.
Speaker 3:The Archdeacon, and that's what I'm going to go with. That's fucking cool ass.
Speaker 1:Name the Archdeacon, and that's how we got the Control Alt Desire documentary, which came out in 2024. It came out in 2024.
Speaker 3:Literally one of the craziest things I've ever seen, and I was half awake because she's like let's watch this Now I'm home.
Speaker 1:It's like 11 o'clock at night, let's put it on, and I'm laying there like one eye open still watching it.
Speaker 3:Like here we go. I was half asleep, but gripping your pillow tight. Yes, oh, I got one of those fluffy unicorn pillows oh, I'm gonna do what you do to me. Keep on going, girl, and tonight. Yes, and you took my hand.
Speaker 1:Take my hand.
Speaker 3:And you walked me.
Speaker 1:Off to Never.
Speaker 3:Never Land All the way through the darkness, through all the Amato fields of murder, yeah, and horrificness, and you got more. There's more to add on it is, so check out that whole episode you gotta do stop here, go back. You gotta do both of these, yeah, because this is fucking crazy and you got more. This is dirt, this is new. We're cracking right now into some new territory, brand new, right now. This this month type territory, right.
Speaker 1:Well, this year, this year, Well, yeah, well, not this month, it was a couple months ago, but still it's new, new, new, new Well a lot of the footage on the documentary is Grant on FaceTime on contraband phones in prison and it's on this documentary that he finally admits to the killings of his family. He did not do that in court. He didn't do that to the killings of his family. He did not do that in court. He didn't do that to the detectives, he didn't do that to anybody else, but he admitted it to Colin Archdeacon on control of desire.
Speaker 3:And then he pulled out some bullshit like I got the gun, but it's hidden in somebody's backyard, so they were digging that shit up and didn't find nothing.
Speaker 1:So that's where you literally hear it first you hear it first on the documentary that he admitted to it.
Speaker 3:And you were so pissed off about a little smirk behind his face oh, I hate him, I hate him. So fucking much. He's like maybe they took out a tree or something. I hate his voice.
Speaker 1:I hate the way he looks. I am like I'm a total fucking douchebag when it comes to judging Grant Amato. I don't give a fuck. Come at me.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, he's a shitty human being, yeah.
Speaker 1:So in the documentary you see that he has a couple of relationships with other women while in prison. Well, after after this documentary comes out, he gets quite the influx of pen pals, and among one of those pen pals was Victoria Goodwin, who was going by on social media, going by Victoria Candy, and this woman was married to Aaron Goodwin, one of the co-stars of the TV show Ghost Adventures, which I remember seeing her like the blonde chick that's on. She's not on it Any episode at all.
Speaker 1:No not that I know of, not that I could find in my research. I have not watched the show.
Speaker 3:It's just part of the production. Yeah, let's check it out, zach.
Speaker 1:Bagans, he's the main dude Right. Aaron, zach Bagans, he's the main dude, and then Aaron and then there's a team. So Aaron was a cameraman who turned co-investigator on the show and also he has a clothing line called Big Steppin' Because he's a big, tall guy. He's not big like overweight big, he's just tall.
Speaker 3:He's a big dude, the big short-haired guy right, he has no hair, no hair Bald. Big, he's just tall, he's a big dude. The big, short haired guy, right, he has no hair, no hair Bald. I was going to say short and bald Bald with facial hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he has been with Ghost Adventures since 2008, when it was on the.
Speaker 3:No History Channel or something Well now it's on Discovery Plus Discovery.
Speaker 1:I do remember him. Travel Channel, travel Channel.
Speaker 3:He's got his little spirit box and he's all talking into it by himself in the room. I remember that now, yeah.
Speaker 1:And, like you said, ghost Adventures is where they go into a haunted location, they set up some high-tech equipment and they see if they can catch some paranormal activity.
Speaker 3:Which we're going to be going to a couple of those places pretty soon.
Speaker 1:Y'all stay too. We're going to Lizzie.
Speaker 3:Borden's house. I don't know anything about Lizzie Borden, yet you don't. I don't know anything about her, oh wait till.
Speaker 1:So Jesse has literally booked us a stay at Lizzie Borden's house, and he has no idea who the fuck Lizzie Borden is.
Speaker 3:We're staying in her bedroom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're staying in her bedroom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're staying in her and Emma's suite, right, yeah, yep, yep, yep, and I got a little cool twist that's coming with that, so we're going to Okay, hopefully we're going to gather some really good content.
Speaker 1:By the way, we have a trip planned to New England for the end of September. Y'all are coming with us, y'all coming with us.
Speaker 3:We got time, we're going to do time.
Speaker 1:You might hear some road noise in the background, so make sure, if you don't like right now I don't have a lot of like interesting content on TikTok but definitely follow me for that adventure because we will be having it and we'll also share it on our Instagram and YouTube. It'll all be linked.
Speaker 3:It'll be if you go to YouTube and type in Gen Z, j-e-n-d-s-e-y On YouTube, on YouTube you can find all of our stuff. Just find it automatic download and click share, like, subscribe. The whole thing because you can find some videos of us, like at Rockville, a couple other places. Hell, I even put some old stuff in there. I keep plugging us and ours stuff. So it's fun. I like it. It's fun.
Speaker 1:Keep going Well like I said, aaron, he started out as a cameraman on the show but became a beloved personality on there, and I haven't watched one single episode. If you guys have watched it, give me some feedback. I want to know should I watch it? Should I watch? You're looking at me now, I've seen it we're at season 29.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he sells it really well. Some of it's bullshit you can tell, but you know he's got a thing, you know there's a thing and things actually happen. And if you're like clairvoyant or you're feeling some kind of crazy vibes and you can be in tune with that, they're going to be like overdramatic with it Real quick.
Speaker 1:Speaking of bullshit, we're going to go a deep dive into all, all of Ed and Lorraine Warren's shit in October, so stay tuned for that.
Speaker 3:What's that the?
Speaker 1:Annabelle, all the Amityville, all of that. That's going to be coming in October.
Speaker 3:So I'll know some of it. Probably, I don't know, maybe not Some of that stuff I watch and I kind of get rid of it out of my mind that way, if you bring it up, you know. But like I understand, I understand, like I've even walked into certain places and situations, I mean like I can feel something you can feel it sometimes yeah. So that's why they're so, you know charismatic while they're in these rooms.
Speaker 1:Because I completely understand that, understand that Jesse and I are both very spiritual and we feel the thickness or the heaviness of an entity that could be in a location.
Speaker 3:You were feeling it in our old when we first got together Our first house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I felt it so heavy there.
Speaker 3:Really weird. Weird. Hear those. It's cool, we saged it, it's good. Yeah, we've saged this house a lot. Yeah, hear those Like it's cool, we saged it, it's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've saged this house a lot. This house is clear, even though we watch a lot of horror in this motherfucker yeah.
Speaker 3:All that's bullshit compared to what's real spiritual stuff.
Speaker 1:Right. So in 2018, aaron meets Victoria and they have what seems to be an adorable, absolutely adorable loving relationship, according to Instagram. I did go through. I went through the Instagram because they're still there.
Speaker 3:Wow, I went back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, that's part of the research you know, Got to be a little stalkerish. Okay, so they got engaged in 2019 in front of the castle at Disney in California.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Disneyland and planned to marry at Disney's Haunted Mansion in 2020. But due to COVID, they had to push that back a little bit until 2022. And they did it. They got married at the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland, California.
Speaker 3:It's pretty epic. Yes, because that's one of my favorite rides.
Speaker 1:Like I went on it for the very first time.
Speaker 3:In Florida, but still.
Speaker 1:I went on it for the very first time last year, because the last time that we went to Disney it was shut down for a while and we had at that time two eight-year-olds my son and our nephew and we only had one day. You kind of do need two days for a true Disney experience. But when we took Silas, what was it? November?
Speaker 3:It was perfect actually that whole day. We got in so much. Yeah, we got in so much.
Speaker 1:We got in a lot and the lines weren't bad and it was a Saturday. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3:We got done with time to spare.
Speaker 1:We didn't even stay for the fireworks, really no, we retired.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I'm saying we could have done more so we got our whole weekend at that time.
Speaker 1:We did Ginger the night before at.
Speaker 2:House of Blues.
Speaker 1:We did Disney, and then we. The next morning we got in the car and drove to Tampa for Spookala.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got the ginger tickets and then I upgraded it to a whole hootamaroo.
Speaker 1:A whole hootamaroo, hootamaroo.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, we did the damn thing, but he deserved it, you know?
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely yeah you got to do Disney once.
Speaker 3:I'm not a Disney fan, Nah, but you've got to do that ride though.
Speaker 1:We are universal people 100%. We love Universal Studios so much. We love everything about Universal and Islands of Adventure. We had season passes there for 18 months.
Speaker 3:And we're going to try to slip off and go to Halloween Horror Nights too, Somewhere between here and there. We're getting there, so we'll let you know when we're going to do that. You can come down and hang out if you're in Florida.
Speaker 1:So Aaron and Victoria were both super Disney nerds and they lived super happily ever after right Wrong. Well, they were also super nerds in other areas, like they collected and traded Disney cards, pokemon cards, star Wars cards, and they both loved comic books.
Speaker 3:They sound like some kind of nerds like us. We like doing cons and stuff. We love all that. That's good. That's a good thing so far.
Speaker 1:Well, Victoria, she had been a collegiate golfer and was on track to going pro. When she finds out that she has, let me see if I can say this right achalasia, yeah, achalasia, which is a rare swallowing disorder where the nerves in the esophagus become damaged, preventing the lower esophageal sphincter from relaxing and allowing foods to pass into the stomach.
Speaker 3:Speaking of sphincter, if she would have had her like you know thing clipped down there at the bottom, she would have been like Happy Gilmore 2 on that whole golfing thing over there.
Speaker 1:That's right. That gives you the whole.
Speaker 3:Well, I was thinking sphincter, your butt sphincter.
Speaker 1:That's in your esophagus.
Speaker 3:You got a sphincter in your esophagus. This is the first time I've heard this. This is awesome.
Speaker 1:And she I mean, this was a painful.
Speaker 3:I bet when you're trying to swallow and it's just you can't get it to open.
Speaker 1:I could not imagine. I can imagine I have woken up at times where I've been sick and I'm only able to breathe out of my mouth and my entire mouth is dry and I can't swallow.
Speaker 3:That's why I can imagine Could you imagine that?
Speaker 1:a lot All the time, all the time, right.
Speaker 3:And then you have to just drink something to try to make something happen. Oh, that is horrible.
Speaker 1:Oh, than to try to make something happen. Oh, that is horrible. Oh, that can slow down your golfing career, because it's not convenient to have to drink constantly while you're out there golfing.
Speaker 3:No, she should have listened to the Bush song a little bit more, that of swallow.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, no, maybe not Well, she shared awareness of this rare disorder and would post about some of her procedures that she had went through and how she was able to live with this rare disorder. Now, I could not find a ton on what was going on in the marriage to lead up to something like I'm about to talk about. And maybe there wasn't a problem, maybe Victoria is just a piece of shit. Okay, piece of shit, okay. Well, in march of 2024, victoria starts a relationship with grant amato while he's in prison and it was a romantic one, okay.
Speaker 1:So she watched control alt desire and saw something special. How, how?
Speaker 2:how it made me even more I'm a dude with three life sentences. How are you going to?
Speaker 3:get from a dude with three life sentences. How are you going?
Speaker 1:to fix it. How are you going to have anything? His personality is a drag.
Speaker 3:He is not anybody I'm fixing to have any conjugal fucking visits with. I swear I mean there's nothing attractive about this dude.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to write him. I have nothing to say to this motherfucker other than you are a selfish piece of shit. Yeah, I mean honestly, if I had it yeah, he, I mean honestly, and if I had begun, to my head, had to write him a letter, how better it would literally just say you are a selfish piece of shit.
Speaker 3:How better of a perfect example. I mean, I I hate the death penalty, but at the same time he took three lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm yeah, well, we're both on the fence about it because I'm gonna say what, what I think, what I mean. Like I have my own mind, but at the same time, sometimes it's hard for me to come up with words, how to explain how I feel about things. So I'm gonna say it like uh, bailey, I think they should sit there and have to deal with what the fuck they did. They should have to endure whatever bullshit is coming to them in prison and at the same time, I'm grateful that, even though, like my boy, damien Echols, he was on death row for 18 years.
Speaker 3:I'm glad he got past it.
Speaker 1:He was actually never sentenced to death because that's an innocent man, that would be dead.
Speaker 3:Yes, but this is hands down like stuff and I've said this on a couple couple different occasions admitted he fucking did. I don't want to pay taxes for a dude to sit here and keep fucking around on being on contraband phones that he pulls out of his butthole exactly but phones and he's doing and he's getting more attention. Why do you keep giving him this power? He doesn't deserve any power. He doesn't even deserve life itself, because he took three of them because of his selfish fucking ass. And fuck sakes, lindsay, keep on going.
Speaker 1:Well, on October 3rd 2024, and this is Mean Girls Day, by the way oh it is. Because on October 3rd Aaron Samuels asked me what day it was and I said it's October 3rd. And on Wednesdays we were a pink yes Bitch. I have lived by that rule since, whenever this movie came out in the early 2000s.
Speaker 3:I literally wear pink If I'm not working Every Wednesday, if we're hanging out on Wednesdays, guess what I'm wearing?
Speaker 1:We wear pink I love it?
Speaker 3:No, really Like. For some reason, Lindsay, I kind of cling on to the chick flick stuff. Why? Because I made you. No, you did not. I was watching Ku Wong Fu before you knew me and I knew you. Ku Wong Fu is universal. I mean, I'm saying that there's so many chick flicks that I've watched and you didn't even know that.
Speaker 1:I've seen Steel Magnolias. You love that shit as much as I do. And then I'll drop bombs, like oh, you had never watched Fried Green green tomatoes.
Speaker 3:I brought that to your life yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean stuff like the doll maker and stuff like that oh god, I killed you with some stuff like that oh, that movie is ixnade from this house we did it one and done one, and done and I still have to pay you back. I'm gonna get you oh, you have to try, because that's deep-rooted, some Appalachia, and I just wanted to have an Appalachian one. Guess what?
Speaker 1:I have an Appalachian one that will fuck your whole life up. You'll never want to watch it again.
Speaker 3:You will hate me. She's so charismatic, right now. You will hate me for the rest of your life. Well, I mixed a little Jim Jones in my moonshine here.
Speaker 1:Hang on Let me take a sip.
Speaker 3:Flavorade is now called Jim Jones in this house because we have a box of it from our episodes of Jim Jones. I think I'm going to keep Flavorade forever.
Speaker 1:Listen to those. We have four parts and they are. I am very proud of those episodes, Very proud. Well, anyway, so on October 3rd, 2024, mean Girls Day, grant's contraband phone was seized and its contents were downloaded, and the romantic relationship was discovered, like Grant and Victoria, according to text, were in love and that Aaron would not accept a divorce. So a plot to have Aaron Goodwin murdered with the help of Grant Amato and a third party was formed.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, if you ever do some fucking shit like this to me, Listen, first of all what? Kind of woman would do some shit like this. How, even if your throat sphincter don't fucking work Maybe that's the problem, man she can't swallow.
Speaker 1:So text from Victoria saying I'm so anxious LOL, I just can't believe this is happening. Like, what the fuck? Like, how did I get to this point? Am I a bad person Because I chose to end his existence instead of divorce?
Speaker 3:what? Yeah, that's a literal thing that's what.
Speaker 1:That is a literal thing that has happened just a few months ago right. So she shared the locations of where aaron was to be filming, which was california. I swear, I don't mean to be picking on you guys, but there's a lot of shit that happens over there, california, and I think they were filming like the Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures were filming on a long route 66 at that time. She would also share what time and said that she had $11,500 set aside, and there was also mention of a $2,500 deposit for the hit.
Speaker 3:So she's already paid for this to be set up. She has money now.
Speaker 1:And this all happened while season 29 was being filmed and that season is out like right now, right now, right now.
Speaker 3:It's happening. Lindsay yeah Reese's Pieces. Recent yeah Reese's Pieces recent yeah Shit.
Speaker 1:So there was also messages that read from Grant to the hit man. He's sleeping right now in a hotel room. I need to know what's going on. Can I get an update? Was it done? And there was also information of a Zelle, a Cash App and a PayPal account. Okay, so like all that information is shared on these downloaded on this downloaded content from Grant's contraband.
Speaker 3:Right and we're like pre-trial right now.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this is all this hasn't even been. She hasn't even no conviction.
Speaker 3:This was all last year.
Speaker 1:She is just now arrested 2024, October 3rd, Mean Girls Day Last year she is just now arrested, october 3rd Mean Girls Day All went down Last year.
Speaker 1:Yes, All went down. Fuck. There were pictures of Aaron and his smoking buddy and the vehicle that they would be in on that phone. Then messages were discovered with Grant and the third party, which is redacted Now. It is my theory, my theory. This is not. This has not been put in court Anything. This is my theory that this third party was the one who brought this information to light. Because why else would they get that phone? Grant made a whole goddamn documentary with a contraband phone. Why else would they? They know he's got him. I mean, that documentary was huge.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah, it was Fuck.
Speaker 1:Now Grant says to the third party to block the main number that he has been texting from and there would be another number to follow. So there was another phone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they just keep bringing them in, right? I mean, there's plenty of buttholes in prison. You can put all the phones in there you want.
Speaker 1:And he tells Grant, tells third party that Aaron would be distracted from a phone call from him. So Grant was going to call Aaron. That way he woke up out of his sleep and that way third party would know he's up now. Know, oh fuck, right now, this whole time that she had been having this relationship with grant, she is still posting happy couple posts on instagram and I saw them and it's heartbreaking you got me fucking getting fucked up over here.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was them doing things and going on trips, you know, doing life as a seemingly happy couple. Well, after this gets discovered and it takes a while, it takes a little longer than I think it should have taken, but Seminole County they contact the authorities in Vegas where Aaron and Victoria share a home. They contact the authorities in Vegas where Aaron and Victoria share a home and let them know what has been found on Grant's phone, which was extremely concerning. I mean, not only has Victoria planned out a hit on her husband and it it looks like it should have already been carried out. So on March 6th 2025, they get the phone. They get the phone on mean girls day, october 3rd 2025. They get the phone. They get the phone on Mean Girls Day, October 3rd 2024.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:The police don't show up to Aaron and Victoria's house until. March 6th 2025.
Speaker 3:From October to March. Yeah, what?
Speaker 1:So? They arrive at Aaron and Victoria's home with a search warrant and I know shit like that takes time, but goddamn, this man's life was in danger.
Speaker 3:The Seminole County prison system is fucking garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're letting everybody bring in the butthole phones. Right, and I mean Grant's got at least two. Who sings that song? I got two phones.
Speaker 3:One for my butt and one for my slut. I got two phones, one for the hit and one for the clit, or whatever. I don't know what they're saying, but still that's insane.
Speaker 1:Well, they show up with a search warrant and then she's arrested and charged with solicitation to commit murder and conspiracy to commit murder.
Speaker 3:And she's paid. She's already put a down payment on it.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, victoria denied her involvement of the hit but said she had been daydreaming of being in a different situation. But she didn't feel that way anymore. Ok, she's good now. She had only fantasized about leaving Aaron and being with Grant.
Speaker 3:And maybe she just texted while she was daydreaming. That's a hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 1:This man is in prison for killing his family? Why are you daydreaming about being?
Speaker 2:with him. What are you going?
Speaker 1:to get out of this. He's going to be there forever. He ain't getting out. He's exhausted all of his appeals, by the way.
Speaker 3:Even if you did two life sentences, you still got one more to go. You're not getting out. I'll pay taxes for him to be in prison. Lindsay, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:Now, this does piss me off, because we are paying taxes for him to be in prison and having relationships with other women having butt phones and organizing a hit on a fucking TV star, is that?
Speaker 3:how you feel about this. Is that really? Is that a hard pill to swallow? Does your throat sphincter kind?
Speaker 1:of clamp he does. He's making another treat.
Speaker 3:Is your throat sphincter clamping about paying taxes for this piece of shit here and his butt phones?
Speaker 1:Well, she also says that she didn't remember sending any of those messages. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:They're so detailed. No, no, you didn't fucking imagine this and just it. No, it did not just fucking come out of thin air, it came out of somebody's butthole.
Speaker 1:When she was asked what like? What about the money that was set aside for this murder, she said oh, I thought that money was just for Grant to be able to get more cell phones, not a hit man. Eleven point five thousand dollars for get more cell phones, not a hit man.
Speaker 3:$11,500 for contraband cell phones, and we done paid the fucking deposit too Out of.
Speaker 1:Aaron's bank account, because he's the one bringing in the dough.
Speaker 3:It's all there, you're done, you're done, you're done.
Speaker 1:She was then asked about her Facebook name, which was Victoria Candy, and she denied having a Facebook at all. It actually might have been Instagram, I'm not sure, but she was also shown a message from her to Grant asking if she should delete. Oh, it was Facebook. She asked Grant should I delete? Should I delete my messages from Facebook Messenger? Like that's literally a message that she sent grant. Should I delete this? But she's saying that she didn't do it.
Speaker 3:but it's there you gotta be it's evidence a little bit fucking smarter to be a good criminal right, good criminals.
Speaker 1:There's so many stupid criminals out here oh, so, so many, so many, so we haven't even scratched the surface.
Speaker 3:You can't make another account with one of your butthole phones. You can't.
Speaker 1:Come on. Well, she didn't have the butthole phone. She could have still got a burner phone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can get one and make a whole ass account with a whole fake thing yeah.
Speaker 1:And run it all that way, I mean well, when she realizes that the jig is up, she admits that her and Aaron's marriage had started falling apart soon after they married. And yes, she had been having a relationship with Grant, which had started by letters to him after she saw the documentary. What kind of relationship is this?
Speaker 3:Like you're on the you're, you're, you're, you're in the forefront of fame. I mean you're. You're married to a dude that's famous. He's got a whole career in front of him, right. What the fuck is he doing? So fucking wrong? Do you have some dirt on?
Speaker 1:this Not shit.
Speaker 3:Not shit.
Speaker 1:Really Not that it's out there yet.
Speaker 3:Like I said, this is brand new, but there's nothing that holds any weight, right, I mean, okay, they went to Disney, they got in California, they got married. It's all beautiful. He has a full on big career he's he's a millionaire.
Speaker 1:And it's cool. Yeah, he's yeah.
Speaker 3:So I mean he's not.
Speaker 1:Zach Bagans millionaire, but he's a millionaire.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. How many episodes now you?
Speaker 1:said season 29.
Speaker 3:Season 29. Yeah Times, 10 episodes, right, so.
Speaker 1:So there's a shitload Probably 300 episodes he's actually recorded, if it's been out since 2008,. I'm guessing there's two seasons a year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on a huge network, I mean you're multi, yeah, discovery Plus. Yeah, millionaire dude Just out there doing his thing and you're trying to fucking hook up with this.
Speaker 1:Which I use my besties. Login for Discovery.
Speaker 3:Plus Thank you, Cindy. This Ratatouille. Fucking Florida idiot that killed his parents because he wanted to whack off to somebody in Bulgaria.
Speaker 1:So ratatouille, like nailed it. Yeah, looks like an absolute rat.
Speaker 3:I want to whack off to Sylvia in Bulgaria steal all my parents' money and then murder them, and then me and Lindsay is going to pay fucking taxes for the rest of our life for the rest of his life, so so you can have butt phones and create some bullshit like this and have a chick that actually fucking has all this amazing stardom and probably just anything at her fingertips that she wants.
Speaker 1:You know not saying that you need to be a shitty chick and be a gold digger, but at the same time you kind of got all the good shit OK so I like I said and I talked to you about this the other night Like she sat down, she reached out to this guy but she started and she started a relationship with him. Now, going back to Damien Echols, lori did the same thing but after watching the documentary she's like he didn't do it, jesse didn't do it, jason didn't do it. I want to reach out and see what I could do to help. That's completely different. Well, you had, you know, you know you had people like well, she was the one that got the rock stars, she was the one that got the rock stars people.
Speaker 3:That was all, lori you know, lord of the rings, you had people you know people from all around the world that were supporting us because they could see that they could. You could easily see that you know kind of a closed up kind of grunge dude that got pulled into some bullshit, a guy with low IQ and another guy that was just a friend.
Speaker 1:He was just Damien's friend, yeah. And he wore a Metallica shirt. That's literally.
Speaker 3:They were targeted Right it's a whole different situation. But the real shit's supposed to come out.
Speaker 1:This man admitted to murdering his family on this documentary and you're still gonna reach out to him and want a relationship with him. Bro, what the fuck?
Speaker 3:I'm trying to bring in hate, lindsey, but I don't want to be hateful. I don't want to be hateful, but we're paying taxes for this ratatouille, motherfucker well, like I said, burner phones.
Speaker 1:Jesse watched this documentary. I watched this documentary. We recapped about it in our wednesday episode. If you didn't listen, go back and listen, and I don't. I need an explanation.
Speaker 3:I can't stress this enough. Why do women come toward this?
Speaker 1:right, that's where I'm going and any other of his weird fans. Why would you want to reach out to this guy in any romantic way? Why is this? A thing like dommer had fans uh, richard ramirez, uh, is it richard? Yeah, the night stalker, he had uh fans. Ted bundy had fans. Ted bundy had uh produced a child in prison. How, how, why do you?
Speaker 3:he wants to do that like he would. He would. He would rape corpses literally defile corpses and not rape them, I guess, or whatever, but still you were doing yes yeah, completely. And then go home to his wife, girlfriend, well, whatever, yeah, and she didn't know. Fuck yeah, dude, don't fucking gravitate toward this. Why do they think they can fix this?
Speaker 1:Danny Rowling. Danny Rowling had a fan. Yeah, you sang to her in fucking open court.
Speaker 3:Garbage, garbage, oh my God. And even Jim Jones had a whole full ass fucking book. I could not believe of all the people.
Speaker 1:The fuck schedule.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the whole, literally the whole schedule, the schedule. I don't know anything about a lot of these because I try to keep myself away from it, but why do women gravitate toward that? I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't understand it. Okay.
Speaker 3:Yes, is it like Stockholm Syndrome? What kind of syndrome is this?
Speaker 1:And I'm going to say this in the best way that I can describe possible, without me looking like a psycho. But yes, murderers fascinate me because I want to know why and as much true crime that I've listened to most of the time there's head injuries involved. There is a horrible abusive child. Not always, Not always. Most of the time there's horrible childhoods involved With women.
Speaker 3:It's usually because they have been not saying all of them have been abused, or sexually, you know, physically mentally everything, yeah, tie you up or chain you to a bed, right, what we just found out in Fort White, which is the town next, well, we're gonna have to do that one.
Speaker 1:We'll do that one later. I'm still waiting on more coverage. Come out with that, literally 15 minutes, but like there's a whole salad there's salad. We call it the the serial killer salad.
Speaker 3:I always try to find a breaking point and always try to point that out in our podcast. I'm just like there's no excuse but, you see, what happened.
Speaker 1:But people are like okay, you got people that have injuries on the cuff are a big big thing. Yeah, Head injuries really fuck a person's brain up.
Speaker 3:And he was. He was on the cusp too. You could tell he kind of had a little maybe it's a little bit of autism kind of, a kind of a weird setback type person. Then all of a sudden his whole career fell apart. He tried to get in the work field.
Speaker 1:Then he I believe Grant's was. It was addiction, complete addiction. He didn't want to let it go. His addiction was Sylvie and he ruined everybody's lives because it would be just like if it was heroin or crack or cocaine or meth.
Speaker 3:He's just so selfish in his acceptance. He was looking for that acceptance and he didn't care what it took, how much money I want to spend to feel accepted and to have my little click.
Speaker 1:Instead of righting the wrongs in his life, he took to an outlet where he ruined everybody's life and ended up murdering them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean fuck it. Go go sing karaoke on Thursdays and hang out. Go to the moose lodge, go to go to bingo night every week. Go go do something, Just okay. So he, he went to Japan. He loved all the anime stuff. Why didn't he go to like some cons or something? Just go hang out with people like, create your own fun, loving family. He could have found a chick that he actually had a connection with and done it healthy.
Speaker 1:You don't go down these avenues where you're stealing from people, just to get acceptance what I compare it to a lot and, like I said, compared to a lot of people's situations. Mine might be minute, but it was still a lot that happened to me. I've been physically and mentally abused. It was still a lot that happened to me. I've been physically and mentally abused. I never thought about killing or even hurting another person. Even the person that did it to me Never thought about that. I just wanted to get away and have a different life and come up.
Speaker 3:That's me. I would walk away instead of reciprocate.
Speaker 1:Walk away.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to try to put that on you, and that's what's fascinating to me is why I can think like that. That's me. I would walk away instead of reciprocate.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to try, I'm not going to try to put that on you, and that's what's fascinating to me, is why I can think like that, but somebody over here will think completely different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, whole different mindset.
Speaker 1:That is what is fascinating to me, but the fact of Victoria reaching out to somebody and that wasn't even his first the first person that reached out to him and be like I love you, right, even though you murdered her whole family.
Speaker 3:Yeah, get out of this. What are you going to get?
Speaker 1:This is so literally you're not going to be able to be with him.
Speaker 3:No, Ever You're not going to go to Disney World with him at all and, like I said, go to Disney.
Speaker 1:World with him at all and, like I said, and also the fascination with me stops at. Okay, how did they do this? That's it Period. I don't want to reach out to them, I don't want to talk to them, nothing, unless. I was like a reporter or a journalist or something like that that wanted to create a story to sell to the public.
Speaker 3:Right, that's it. Okay. True crime right now is not our job, but even if it was our full-on career, we're not going to try to tie into these people. No, the people I want to talk to is survivors. Victims. I want to talk to victims survivors. Bystanders Wrongfully accused. Yes, things like that. We're going to reach out for that.
Speaker 3:That's the people I want to reach out to and have a personal relationship with and if they're wrongfully, accused, then we're going to tie in, we're going to try to figure out what's really going on and maybe help them out, because we've been plugging the West Memphis Three since we started talking about it.
Speaker 1:That one is very, very close to my heart and there's some new stuff coming out about that.
Speaker 3:I'm excited, I know.
Speaker 1:Get those guys. She's so passionate over there she is Look at her, let the truth come out, so those boys can travel the world if they want to. They can't leave this country because they are convicted fellows for something they didn't do.
Speaker 3:They deserve free on, just full ride, and they deserve a lot of money. They really do.
Speaker 1:And they never asked for it. They couldn't ask for it. They don't need to ask for it. They are out on an Alford plea.
Speaker 3:They can't do anything, which was crazy to me you had to say that you did it just to get out, just to get out. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:Nope. So during the trial, victoria's defense would argue that she has never been in trouble, she didn't go through with it and she had abandoned the plan before Grant's phone was confiscated, and that is true. And they also argued that she had already spent 92 days in and that if she could just get on probation she would move and she would not have any more contact with Aaron or anybody he knew. They also argued that she would not be able to get proper treatment for her rare swallowing disorder while incarcerated, and that's probably true too, but at the same time when you're in prison. Okay, so jail and prison are two different things. When you're in jail that you can't get shit. When you're in prison, you actually can get medical treatment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're actually better ride that we pay taxes for Lindsay, right, I get mad over there over this.
Speaker 1:It was brought to light that she had actually been blackmailed, and by I'm guessing, this is just a guess by the third party for around $60,000. And she paid that money. It also came to light that she had had another affair and there were two instances of her attempting to hire a hit too.
Speaker 3:So she's formed an addiction in its own.
Speaker 1:In its own. She's also a daydreamer. She is not on reality's plane whatsoever, no. So in court and I watched all of this she apologized to Aaron for the pain, anxiety and betrayal that she caused him. She says that she will always hold love for him and that she prays he finds his joy and peace as she will be out of his life forever. She says she will move out of Nevada and he, or anyone that he knows, will ever hear from her again. Then Aaron speaks and he is crying and not going to lie. I fucking cried right along with him. Okay, it's so sad. And he says that for seven years he thought he was in the most loving relationship with his best friend, someone he trusted wholeheartedly, someone he laughed wholeheartedly, someone he laughed with every day. He says he was loyal to her and thought they had something special. Then he found out she was cheating with multiple men One named Vincent, who turned out to be Grant Amato. Fuck Lindsay.
Speaker 3:And he had given her Vincent who turned out to be Grant Amato.
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah, lindsay, and he had given her the option of divorce or they could work it out because he loved her so much. He stated that she had felt so bad and said she didn't want to lose him. Now, discovering that she had put a hit out on him to kill him more than once and got blackmailed and spent all of their savings to keep it quiet, and that she fell more in love with Amado and even got spiritually married to him and had continued this is garbage, man, this is garbage. And had continued talking to him until the day she was arrested. He says that he now fears for his life every day and that he had to hire arm security. He's always looking over his shoulder. He's going through therapy. He says he cannot trust anyone and never feel safe and that he cries every day and he feels so alone.
Speaker 3:So now Grant has fucked up two more lives. Yes, shit.
Speaker 1:She lied to him every day without a worry or a care, and he doesn't understand any of it and he will never be the same again. He said that in court. I fucking bawled my eyes out watching that shit.
Speaker 3:So I get to watch that. Come on, I'm sure you're going to show me that, god, I'm gonna be so mad.
Speaker 1:I'm so mad now, but I'm really gonna be mad then, because I think I'm gonna be a little bit drunker, more drunk well that, like I said, the most that I could find was a lot of law and crime episodes and like one court tv on youtube and most of it is all so new. It's yeah, but most of it was basically speculation. And then I found her sentencing date and that's where I watched the open court footage of her speaking and Aaron speaking, and Aaron now has a lawsuit against her for $100,000 at this time and she was only sentenced to 36 to 90 months.
Speaker 3:What that's it? It's like a car loan, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, sounds like a car loan, Okay so the $100,000 lawsuit against her, of course, is the money that she spent on trying to kill him and he said she was very controlling. Yeah, so there is going to be more about this later in the future. We are going to update when I get that. We'll probably do a redo of this episode when I get, because, you know, more information always comes out like two years down the road.
Speaker 3:And we're fixing to wrap up next month Our first whole season. Yep, wow, lindsay, we're.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're almost a year into this Almost a year in.
Speaker 3:Wow, and that's just horrible. Though, like I keep saying, though we're paying taxes for this motherfucker to keep fucking up people's lives Yep, he's fucking up people's lives, killed three and now he's fucked up two more. And how? How is this little fucking ratchet?
Speaker 1:fucking ratatouille.
Speaker 2:He not, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:How is he doing it? He got that big dick energy, don't he? I don't he? I don't know what he's got. He has no dick energy to me.
Speaker 1:I got to look right on the screen and was disgusted.
Speaker 3:I don't know how there was anything appealing about watching. Grant Amato, even his mannerisms. There's nothing sexy about him at all. Zero, zero.
Speaker 1:Me and Jesse watching that documentary. When he's literally talking sexy to another woman, I literally almost vomited.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's so blah, he's so gross to me. Nothing cool about this dude. So gross. Goodness gracious Not my type whatsoever. So that's what you got so far on this, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's the end of what I could find on. Victoria Goodwin, which is literally a continuation of Grant Amato.
Speaker 3:I'm not supposed to be excited to hear about it. Like I'm not really, but I am excited and you did so far. You kind of did great, you kind of did great.
Speaker 1:Thank you, and thank you Taking a virtual bow.
Speaker 3:You're killing it and you're digging you had to get on their socials, their socials.
Speaker 1:So new and, like I said, and I'm going to post pictures in our story, but the pictures of them together, you would never guess that this bitch is plotting behind his back.
Speaker 3:And I bet she is gorgeous.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not. I think she's ugly as fuck.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:No, I mean there's a big age gap. At this time he's 48 and she's 32. So seven years ago he's 40 and she's 25.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to put the picture together. Is she this gorgeous woman that has everything going for her?
Speaker 1:Not in my opinion, but I don't understand why would you have all of this and fuck it up?
Speaker 3:And not be happy. All the happiness is there and then you're going to reach out for this dude. That's three life sentences in. I just don't understand it, Lindsay. I can't understand it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1:I don't either. I mean I really don't. I'm going to show you pictures of them. I don't either. I mean I really don't. I'm going to show you pictures of them.
Speaker 3:I mean he's in my opinion, a good looking dude. I've seen him. Yeah, I'm sure I'll recognize probably both.
Speaker 1:I don't think that she's all that in my opinion he's not all that either, but it's whatever. They're average Joes, yeah average.
Speaker 3:And I do remember him so much.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:So much, it's crazy. It's crazy. Why would you fuck all that up? I just do not understand at all.
Speaker 1:Now on her. You know, on the photos that you see of them she's decently attractive, but when you see her in court after all that shit's washed away she's an ugly little bitch in my opinion.
Speaker 3:Well, anyhow, they're just average. Joes, she's got an ugly soul. That's what you're seeing past that. She looked like an average. They both just average Joes but I don't understand.
Speaker 1:I mean Luke's saying everything but, like I said, she's got an ugly soul, which kind of matches with Gran Amato, because he's got an ugly ass soul which makes him an ugly ass human being, in my opinion, as well as her. If you for for you to be able to reach out to a monster that killed their whole family over a female, you're a monster. I mean, you're disgusting, you're ugly.
Speaker 3:You're nasty. It's really disgusting.
Speaker 1:It's disgusting. Cold blood.
Speaker 3:Cold blood murder, yeah, and then let him suck you in over whatever infatuation. You have to fuck up your whole livelihood and then another human being Like I said later on we're probably going to get way more information on these text exchanges.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a thing. There's going to be a documentary, I'm guessing.
Speaker 3:We'll see. How is he doing this? How is he pulling it? What the fuck Kind of energy.
Speaker 1:Like I said, he helped create a whole documentary with a contraband phone. So, like I said in my opinion, I want to stress that this is my guess. This is not factual, that third party had to have sold him out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they should have.
Speaker 1:Why else would he have gotten that confiscated? Right, because he didn't get it confiscated with a whole ass documentary that he helped create through contraband.
Speaker 3:You know, here's what I'm thinking. And admitted to killing his family on that documentary. I think there's something else going to come out about all of this. For this actually being able to go on Right. There's going to be a whole nother thing. Come out behind the scenes. Somebody else is getting, somebody else is getting a fall for all of this.
Speaker 1:We shall see how the story unfolds.
Speaker 3:There's some fucking underground money going on here. They're in in abelin and you're letting this shit happen in your prison system and there's gonna be something, because it's too big.
Speaker 2:What the fuck?
Speaker 3:it's getting too big. There's something gonna come out more on this, so I think you're gonna have some dirt.
Speaker 1:That's okachobee okanon choboden yeah, that's okachobee.
Speaker 3:That's awesome like, but definitely go back florida definitely go back and check out the one we did before this one, so you can tell we got grant amato, we got the recap, all the documentary, all three parts.
Speaker 1:Just check them all out.
Speaker 3:Yeah just us ramblings and and lindsey's. You know research. Holy fuck dude, this is so new and you're digging this up.
Speaker 1:I'm so like I said, I was absolutely flabbergasted at finding out that information had zero. She was not on my agenda whatsoever, you guys.
Speaker 3:You had to clock in, I had to clock in, I have cases lined up for the next three years. We're doing podcasts and I'm doing true crime here. I got to clock the fuck in. This is some new shit we got to do this.
Speaker 1:Breaking news.
Speaker 3:Breaking news. There's going to be something else about all this, because you can't have this much, and there's probably way more corruption and some bullshit going on in this prison system that we're fucking paying taxes for, you've seen how much he was on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've seen how much he was on that screen time. Yeah, like prison phone calls is one thing yeah. But screen time on a documentary from prison, fuck's sake.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fuck's sake.
Speaker 1:What's going?
Speaker 3:on Okachub. What is going on? So I'm not allowed to play music yet you are.
Speaker 1:What band are you plugging this week?
Speaker 3:I have a really, really cool band. I think it's going to be a good jam for this and it's a nice change. So Evan Boyer, we, I was reaching out to bands and I hooked up with evan and he sent me this cool ass jam that I want to play. This song is called the fear, so I want you guys to check it out.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry I'm drying out. Today I can't help much or find the words to say I'm doing all I can to be the man you want to stay. I'm sorry, I'm doing all I can to be the man you want to stay. I'm sorry I'm drying out. Today Sun's up still. You know I've got to go and fall asleep before my demons show Go. Sleeping through temptations just as good as saying no, sorry. You know I've got to go Far away from here to dream about a life that I hold dear, far away from here, and know I'll never live without the fear. Sorry, I'm crying out. Today I've said too much and don't mean what I say. I've turned this happy home into a God-forsaken place. Sorry, I'm crying out today, this happy home into a God forsaken place. Sorry, I'm crying out today, far away from here, dream about the life that I hold dear, far away from here. No one ever lives without the fear. Guitar solo.
Speaker 3:Falling from here To dream about a life that I hold dear. Fall away from here. No, I'll never live without the fear. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:I loved it so much it reminded me of the Highwaymen.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. Like he's a Highwayman, he's, so yes like he's a highwayman.
Speaker 1:He's so like 100 honorary highwayman right there, modern, if you don't know who the highwayman is that is a super group with waylon jennings, johnny cash, chris christopherson and willie nelson and like 100 you got that highwayman energy bro, I love it.
Speaker 3:Great stuff, really great.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was three minutes and 33 seconds of fever right there three three yeah, I love it and if you want to follow evan, he is on instagram and his handle is evan boyer music so good. And he is described as Texas Americana and follow, follow, because I really enjoy that. Wasn't that a?
Speaker 3:great change. We play so much metal Because we love it.
Speaker 1:We love it, but we love it all at the same time.
Speaker 3:If anybody hears this and you know some cool bands, send them to me, because I'm enjoying stuff like this.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I got some cool country western bands and some ethnic bands and some stuff coming up too. You're going to love it, Lindsay.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3:Cultural bands too. I love it. I just this is this is my thing. This is my thing over here, yes, over here.
Speaker 1:So we had just a horrific time over here, Lindsay. Thank you so much so horrific.
Speaker 3:So yeah, also ongoing Grant has continued To destroy, people Just destroy.
Speaker 1:His destruction.
Speaker 3:The destructor yes.
Speaker 1:In Okeechobee yeah.
Speaker 3:It's an ongoing thing, though, about Happy Gilmore 2, right, the flask thing. Yes, we've been talking about that. I haven't seen anybody reach out, but I want to see somebody reach out about the counts on the flask and your favorite flask.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Don't cheat.
Speaker 1:Don't cheat, don't Google, don't cheat, hit me up. Watch the movie.
Speaker 3:And I did a thing way back, way back, about a joke that nobody hit me back up on. If you get that joke that I did on one of our podcasts and you point it out, you get something free. I'm going to send you some free merch. We have a merch store, drinkaboutsomethingsite. It's on there and it's on Spreadshirt. Just go to the website and you can find all the cool little linkies, little linky poos, just like everybody else says like share, subscribe, follow all that blah, blah, blah. You did great blah, but yeah, you did great. Lindsay, you were there doing great over there with your little greatness. Thank you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But now it's time for some munchies.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to ever seek out some chick that has like four life sentences.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, To try to put a head on me. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:Likewise, what the fuck likewise whoa, whoa that was wild oh, I don't get it.
Speaker 3:But yeah, we're gonna have some drinky poos, we're gonna watch some tvs and we're gonna hang out. It's a great weekend. Hope you have a great weekend. We will see you guys, probably on like, yeah, wednesday or something. Yeah, yeah, we're doing like like a you know wednesday and a friday thing, so, yeah, we'll see you guys. Then we'll uh let you know what uh we come up with later on on this whole thing, because this is going to be a big thing. I think, yeah, there's going to be something dirty coming out. There's more dirt, there's always dirt, always dirt.
Speaker 3:Spread the dirt.
Speaker 1:Spread it.
Speaker 3:We'll see you guys then. Love you so much, bye.
