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EPISODE 47: Belle Gunness
Imagine a seemingly ordinary Norwegian immigrant woman running a pig farm in early 1900s Indiana—except her farm yielded far more than just pork. Belle Gunness, perhaps America's most prolific female serial killer, orchestrated a reign of terror that claimed at least 30 victims and revolutionized how we think about murder and gender.
The horrific discovery came after a suspicious fire in 1908 revealed not only the bodies of Belle's three children but also prompted a search that unearthed dismembered remains throughout the property. What elevates this case beyond mere historical footnote is the strong possibility that Belle escaped justice by staging her own death—a headless female body found in the fire's aftermath was significantly smaller than Belle's substantial frame.
The story of Belle Gunness forces us to confront uncomfortable truths about evil and reminds us that monsters have always walked among us—sometimes hiding behind the facade of a simple pig farmer.
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Hey, Jesse, Hello.
Speaker 2:Lindsay.
Speaker 1:What are you drinking?
Speaker 3:today I have like some vodka and some Jim Jones over here in this cup, but I'm not partaking too much, because I partaked way too much earlier.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I did.
Speaker 1:I did, I did Well. You also have an energy drink a lani yeah so we're fired up we're fired up.
Speaker 3:Yes, what are you drinking over there? You got a whole ass fucking moonshine jug over here.
Speaker 1:I have a mason jar of okay vodka, soda water or sparkling water. It looks beautiful, lime and lime. Vista Bay.
Speaker 3:Lime. I love it. It is so good. The lime is very good. So Vista Bay lime, all the limes. Don't spread the lime light all over your notes over there.
Speaker 1:Pause it so I can clean.
Speaker 3:You can clean, no, clean, while it's fucking going. Don't pause. We're not going to pause while you spill your alcohol in front of me on your, on your beautiful notes. It didn't go on my notes. It went on the table. Okay, it didn't go on the notes. It went on the table. No-transcript. It didn't go on the notes, it went on the table. It went on our kids' school books, though, the school books, school books. I don't think we need that. So we did a video ass chat. Honestly, our first Video recap, video recap, video ass recap. That's what it was Lindsey's cleaning, because she spilled something on something. I spilled some of this today and it happens, it happens, it does. It was beautiful. It was beautiful, lindsey, it was the most beautiful thing all right, sir, go ahead and roll that intro do?
Speaker 3:you got all your shit in a row here, lindsey I do. Holy shit, we're going, we're going, we're going, we're going. Happy fucking friday. Everybody cheers. I love your cup, dude. I feel like I want to drink out of the mason jar all my life, all my life.
Speaker 1:I pray for someone like you, so real quick before we get started, if you're new here.
Speaker 3:Thank God that I finally found you.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. If you're new here. What we do is we have a couple of drinks and we talk about a true crime story that I have researched and wrote out. Jesse knows nothing about it for the most part, even the cases that he does know, he does not know the details and then at the end of the episode he plugs the band that he has gotten. He does not know the details and then at the end of the episode, he plugs the band that he has gotten. Permission to play on our pod and we are so grateful for those artists. Support those artists and, uh, go back and listen.
Speaker 3:Like I said, if you're new here, go back and listen to our all our backlog yeah, if you like music, if you like true crime, if you like drunken banter, drunken, fuck dude, I have been so drunk today. You got me today, lindsay, slurry, slurry y'all. Hang on, cause it's finna. Get fucking nuts. Lindsay, you got a fucking badass story.
Speaker 1:I got a question for you what you got, lindsay what made you feel old this week?
Speaker 3:shit sake Lindsay now it's shit sake damn hell sake, damn hell fuck, son of a bitch pile of fuzzy monkey nuts over here. So my old was like, okay, every year, honestly, every fucking year, when all the kids go to school and they just fucking got in school in florida, in our area well, pretty much everywhere yeah we just got sick.
Speaker 3:Everybody has ailments every time kids go to school and and you know I love education the whole everything but recovering from that makes you feel old. You know All the kids they go to school the next week everybody's sick.
Speaker 1:Well, and my heart goes out to you because I've been a single mom before in the past. I raised my older three boys by myself for eight years. That first week of school is really a trying time, or the first month is really a trying time for especially single mothers, or or even married mothers that have a nine to five job, because guess who they call first at school.
Speaker 3:The mother, or good ass dads, I mean oh yeah, yeah or single dads, absolutely. I mean you gotta play.
Speaker 1:So yes, you're absolutely right. Thank you for bringing that to my attention because these?
Speaker 3:because there are single dads that are raising their children. You have to give them that credit honestly or stay at home.
Speaker 1:Dads stay at home where the mom is yeah, has the full-time career and the dad's got to go, so it's a trying time. It's a trying time.
Speaker 3:So kudos to all the dads too that aspire to be in that position. But moms, forever fucking more deserve that credit, Forever more.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying it's a trying time because you are at work, yeah, or you know, even if you're at school, if you're trying to further your degree, yeah, young moms, you get that call from the school. You got to come get them. Now you and I are growing up. We had to be damn near death before they would call our parents.
Speaker 3:What I broke down to Silas, our 11-year-old, which was shit. I broke down to all the other kids. I said you're stealing money from our household when you call and you fuck up and you do something stupid to where we have to leave.
Speaker 1:We're not talking about that. We're talking about when they're sick and the school is going to call yeah, period, if they have a red throat, if they got a stiffy nose, the early on sickness, I get, I get, I get all that.
Speaker 3:But further on in their educational year of school and and the whole thing, if they do something stupid where you have to leave work and you're like fuck, I leave work because my kid wasn't paying attention in class or my kid wasn't being respectful or he got written up and you got to do, I mean but we were talking about sickness oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were talking about how, when you go back to school, everybody's sick.
Speaker 1:Every kid gets sick and you gotta go pick them up. So I'm trying to push hard.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to push, I know, but that's not what we were talking about.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, we were talking about what you said made me feel old.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I mean I haven't got all the way to the, the narrative, uh, that I wanted to push because of a conversation that me and silas had, if that makes sense, but I had to get it out, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, lizzie, I've been, I'm in a little tooter, tooter, tootaloo over here on the. You know, the I'm in, I'm drinking a lot, I I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:But basically it sucks. Back to school, the whole shit. Kids get sick. You get called from work. Yes, you got to baby your babies because your babies need you Period. I get that part. Yes. But when they fake sick and the teacher or the nurse still has to call home, that sucks. Because now you've missed a day of work, yes, and that's not cool because them kids ain't got a fucking stomach ache or a stuffy nose all summer they're faking it they're faking it, and I have to say so.
Speaker 1:This is our second year into our homeschool journey and guess what? Silas has not had a. No, I'm sorry he did, he was sick one time, last time one time last year justifiable. Call your mom and daddy but it we didn't have to call us because we were already here we're here I was already at home and I was at work, but you know we were okay
Speaker 1:so yeah before that I would get a call about once a week, yeah, and some kind of ailment that he was trying to pass off and it off. And he's not the only one of my four kids that have done that.
Speaker 3:No, and that's the narrative that I was trying to put into further.
Speaker 1:That's where I was going. I was going to get into that.
Speaker 3:Oh, so we're team Gen Z over here on raising kids over here. Yeah, you got it and I got it, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:But, jesse, you haven't asked me what made me feel old.
Speaker 3:This week I was fixing to. I was just trying to plug the whole conversation up to this point. So what made you feel, old Miss Lindsay, over here?
Speaker 1:Well, you know, when I'm doing scrolling the TikTok, sometimes songs from it'll say like top 10 songs from 1994. And I'm like, oh my God, that was like like I remember. When I hear those songs it's literally like I'm right back there in 1992, 1993, 1994 or whatever.
Speaker 1:But that was a long time ago the fuck it was it was a long time ago and it's really hard for me to, because time is a thief like time is an absolute thief, but I am grateful for the time period that I was born in. A lot of people wish or or think that if they were born in a different time period their life would have been better no I'm gonna be covering an old-timey case today and guess what?
Speaker 1:bullshit's been happening all through time and there has been horror and true crime and absolute shittiness through the entire time.
Speaker 1:Because I'm gonna go back, we're gonna go back into the the, you know don't tell me yet the well, I'm just saying we're gonna go back to the king and queen ages and shit like that at some point with our true crime, because it's just been happening through history. There's been no point in history where anything was hunky dory. There is no such thing as good old days, so throw that shit right out the window If you have a good old day scenario in your head it's because you had a good childhood.
Speaker 3:That's it. Yeah, and you were sheltered away from what was real. You were sheltered away from what was really going on.
Speaker 1:Yes, and, as a person who did not have a great childhood, I want to debunk the good old day theory all the way down to attila the hun.
Speaker 3:You know how many people that are kin to Attila the Hun?
Speaker 1:Who the fuck is that? Okay, that sounds like a Star Wars character like Jabba the Hutt, no historically Okay.
Speaker 3:One out of 500,000 people in the globe is kin to Attila the Hun.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So global of the hun okay so global.
Speaker 1:Now I have.
Speaker 3:I have a case on people or a character in time that we will talk about later on in the future, yeah, um, where a lot of people are related to this character as well, so I'm intrigued go ahead and then that's crazy as fuck, where a human being has a conquest, where he travels around killing whole civilizations and raping and doing so much pillaging to the point to where his dna is everywhere is ever fucking where lindsey.
Speaker 1:Okay, robert barathian, I'm not trying I'm not trying to like like.
Speaker 3:Okay, I am trying to like like, but at the same time, attila the Hun was a fucking, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, he was like a conquistador of, just like Asian fucking taking over the world type well, that's crazy, because the guy that I'm gonna talk about that also has a lot of DNA through history, is also Asian, so just taking in what people have done historically, you know, in in religion and everything where people would join a battlefield, 500,000 on each side in the name of Jesus, and then or a name of, in the name of whatever God they were worshiping, and 10,000 people were fighting and 5,000 people died.
Speaker 3:Holy shit, I mean I feel like that's true crime to me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's true crime to me.
Speaker 3:We're going to cover shit like that later on, because there was an asshole behind that that made everybody be like, hey, you need to go do this for God for two years, and if you don't do this, then I'm taking your land, your wife, your family and everything you own. That was a thing, so that's true crime to me.
Speaker 1:Hold on, I'm just taking a picture of you beside the plant that has bloomed. Oh, the blooming plant. Because you're going to want to crawl in that bitch in a little bit. Oh what? All right, Let me get a better picture.
Speaker 3:Live ass pictures. You want me to leave this on here? Don't cover up the bloom, it's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't know about the plant Do a smile, do a smile. I can't see your face at all. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, come on, tighten it up.
Speaker 1:You just went behind the whole, all right.
Speaker 3:All right, here we go, here we go, here we go what?
Speaker 1:I need to do some crazy. There we go.
Speaker 3:How do you like that? Is that a good one. I can post later. That is it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So we're going to have a picture right now. What just fucking happened that you fucking heard. But anyhow, our plan is blooming.
Speaker 1:So anyhow, the peace lily that Jesse turns to when I get to the rough part of the story it's there. We're going to post a picture of that, because it has a really pretty balloon today.
Speaker 3:And you know how many times I've talked to the plant, how many times have I turned, fucking that way.
Speaker 1:Well, let's get. You want to get to the story. Yeah, you want to get to what we're drinking about today.
Speaker 3:Yes, but full on circle real quick, real quick, real quick. Historically, so many people have done true crime as far as pushing people into a fucking bullshit ass narrative and I'm fixing to get pissed off because I'm a little fucking drunk and I'm pissed off because historically, all the way down to fucking Stalingrad and Hitler and everybody that's done their fucking bullshit and pushing things in to a real thing where people have killed so many millions of people historically. We need to talk about that as well well, and also this story.
Speaker 1:At the end of the story you will see how far back and I mean this is just going back about a hundred years.
Speaker 3:So, lindsay, what are we fucking drinking about?
Speaker 1:We're drinking about a lady named bell Gunness.
Speaker 3:Bell Gunness.
Speaker 1:She will have several different names, but we'll talk about that towards the end. So, okay, the very first podcast I ever listened to was about this case and it was covered by sword and scale. And now I still love sword and scale, but I definitely prefer a podcast with humor and witty banter, hence why we have humor and witty banter I'm not much cool on the banter yeah, we are, we're good, I'm kidding okay, because I'm a goofball and drunk ass fucking bastard over here, right?
Speaker 1:now. So like sword and scale is a uh a production, whereas we are just talking. We're just talking about this shit yeah yeah, yeah but, like I said, this was the very first podcast I ever listened to, the very first case I ever listened to and it stuck with me and I gotta tell you about it. Okay, all right, kudos to sword and scale yeah sword and scale is great, okay, yeah, so bell, gunness or goodness, but I'm gonna say gunness because it's just easier. She was born bella paulstatter or brennhild theestadestorseth.
Speaker 3:Holy shit, that's a fucking mouthful.
Speaker 1:I know she was a Norwegian-American and born November 11th 1856, in Selbu, municity. Yeah, selbu, sel pfft, selbu, municity, norway, to Paul and Berit Storseth.
Speaker 3:She sounds Scandinavian over here.
Speaker 1:So she was one of eight kids and her sister Orlina. She moved to America and married a man named John Larson. And married a man named John Larson and in her early teens Belle worked for neighboring farms in the area milking and herding cattle to save money for her dream of migrating to America as well, and she did so in 1881. That's 100 years before you were born, jesse.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:You were born in 1981. Belle moved to America in 1881.
Speaker 3:A whole ass fucking hundred years.
Speaker 1:And you're Scandinavian as fuck, so you could have been related.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, I found out, lindsay, that my family moved about 20 years before that into the United States as well. So, holy shit, we're, as family, Moving together trying to come across and be and not really conquerors. Trying to achieve the dream the better of whatever has been established over here. You know, that is awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:She would make her way to Chicago to live with Orlena, who now went by Nellie, and her husband John. Now there was a huge influx of Norwegian immigrants in the Midwest at this time, like huge. They had their own little newspaper, all that shit.
Speaker 3:That was coming over.
Speaker 1:She would find work as a domestic servant, and then she got a job as a butcher. Put a bit in that, yeah skills. Bella was now Belle Peterson and she really wanted to be rich and successful and so just a servant or a butcher lady wasn't. That wasn't going to be it for her. She had. She had goals, she had dreams. She wanted to marry a rich man who would provide her with a comfortable lifestyle. Okay, and it was said that she was being courted by a suitor and became pregnant out of wedlock. And then she miscarried that baby Fuck. And that man would lose his life to arsenic poisoning.
Speaker 3:Double fuck.
Speaker 1:But that part is a mystery and has become part of the folklore that is now Belle Gunness. Okay, I don't know anything about this fucking thing you're building and I'm surprised? You don't, because this is some shit Bitch.
Speaker 3:you're over here building this fucking crazy ass story already that I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 1:Okay, holy shit. So, belle, she would go on to marry a man named Mads Dittslau Anton Sorensen in 1884. So that's only about three years after she came to America.
Speaker 3:So another ethnic type person?
Speaker 1:yes, well, I told you there was an influx of norwegian, of norwegian immigrants in the midwest right. Okay, they would awesome this is awesome.
Speaker 3:This is the most fucking epic story you've told me so far. Honestly, maybe it's because I'm fucking drunk already, but like I'm trying, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, let's see. Wait, calm it down a little bit here, because I'm trying to take all this in. Fuck's sake. This is going to be the most epic story because it's new, new, it's old, old, old, new, or it's very old.
Speaker 1:That's our oldest story we've spoke of yet. No, no, no, no, it's not our oldest story, because we have covered the salem witch trials.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that was our oldest in history, thus far, but now I'm seasoned a little bit into this and now I'm like embracing something that I've never heard before. Or you, you've never even spoke a word to me about all of this, and I am fucking intrigued. Right now I'm looking at you.
Speaker 1:You're hooked.
Speaker 3:Scandinavian ass motherfucker over here and I'm so excited. Dude, All right. Well let me fucking tell the story I ain't going to interrupt anymore, but I'm a whole ass foot over here tickling Lindsay over here Because I'm like she's like quit fucking with me, but I'm drunk as fuckery. Fuck. You Go with Lindsay, all right.
Speaker 1:So so Bell and Mads Bell and Mads OK, they get married and they open a little candy and cigarette shop together. I mean because, yeah, what's better than candy and cigarettes? You know that's the perfect time for it. Cigarettes, you know that's the perfect time for it. And Mads had also been a night watchman, but he wasn't really what you would call rich and the candy shop wasn't really that successful, but luckily it was insured because about a year after opening it burned to the ground Fuck, supposedly due to a kerosene explosion. No, I don't believe it. All right, well, let me tell the story, okay, but I don't believe it. So Belle, she wanted kids really badly, okay, like that was just like her goal in life. She wanted to be rich, she wanted to live comfortably and she wanted some babies.
Speaker 3:So she's new into the United States, right.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:And she's trying to build this whole career.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she came over in 81. We're now in 80, well, we'll say about 90 at this point. 18, 90.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, and I'm trying to build the whole.
Speaker 1:Let me tell the story before you build. Let me build, okay, thank you.
Speaker 3:No building blocks over here. I'm not being Jack Black over here.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the candy store has burned to the ground and Belle wanted kids. She wanted kids, really bad, and she was having trouble conceiving and her sister Nellie she had already had some kids at this time and Belle, like weirdly, expected her just to give her one what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, belle was like Nellie, can I have one of your children? And Nellie was like no, that's my child. And then Belle gets pissed off and like cuts ties with her Period. Fuck, yeah, belle, nellie sisters no more, you're not cool. She ended up adopting one. Yeah, belle, nellie sisters, no more, you're not cool, you're not cool. Well, she ended up adopting one daughter named Jenny Olsen and then, literally, mysteriously, like nobody knows how, belle had four kids.
Speaker 1:Belle had four fucking kids out of nowhere she had two sets of twins within two years after not being able to conceive for now 15 years. So we're 15 years down the road from her and Mads getting married.
Speaker 3:I'm looking at you right now. I'm like I'm okay.
Speaker 1:She can't conceive, but she all of a sudden has two sets of twins within two years. Okay, so now she has. So now she has five kids total. She's adopted Jenny. She's got two sets of twins but unfortunately two of the babies passed away before the age of six months because they had enlarged intestinal issues. Now the mortality rate during this time was insane and people didn't live very long and babies were dying all the time. But Belle had these kids insured and she got a life insurance payout.
Speaker 3:That time they were had, they had some, I know.
Speaker 1:Isn't that crazy? Like that still is insane to me that in the late 1800s, early 1900s, there was life insurance.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's the perfect time to do some crazy ass fuckery. Yeah Cause, right now, holy shit, and like okay, you're dumping, right now, you're dumping it.
Speaker 1:Four human beings right now, five, five human beings, she's got five and two, one is adopted, two gone, four that nobody knows how she came about acquiring Right. Two are now deceased.
Speaker 3:Right From intestinal issues. Two gone.
Speaker 1:Yes, and she had insurance payouts for both of those children.
Speaker 3:This is a lot to take in. I hope you get up to my energy because I am drunk energy.
Speaker 1:I know, just listen for a little bit. I am listening. Listen for a little bit. Okay, drunk energy Before you pop back in.
Speaker 3:I'm not Just listen, I'm not Okay.
Speaker 1:So then, bill and Mads, they were scammed out of some of their money by an Alaskan miner. Now, this was a thing back then. There was like you know how you get that message from Messenger from the Nigerian prince that wants to give you all his money. Well, this was happening back then, from Alaskan miners. So Mads and Belle put all their eggs into this basket and this basket just fucking falls and all the eggs crack and they're out of money. So, fucked up right now with this whole analogy but I get it as luck would have it their home would burn to the ground and they got another insurance payout, so they recovered their losses from their home burning to the ground.
Speaker 3:It was like two kids died out of nowhere. She tried to claim that no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:We got to start. The candy store burned down. She got an insurance payout from that Fuck Okay. Two kids died, she got an insurance payout from that, for fuck's sake. Now the house is burned down. She's got an insurance payout from that. So it's a lot to keep up several pages.
Speaker 3:God damn, we're all trying to catch up because it's like okay, everybody else is on board. You're got a delayed reaction I think, everybody else is caught up, but I'm not. I'm astounded, honestly, and it's just gonna get more. It's not locking in, because at the point where you're like bam, bam, bam, bam bam, I'm like wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute. And you're like wait a minute and I'm like alaskan fucking, what the fuck?
Speaker 1:yeah, alaskan miners had this whole scamming thing going on fuck yeah I'm trying to put myself into the late 1800s. This well, you still got settlers and pioneers at this point.
Speaker 3:Well, certain parts of the country to take in yeah especially when you're fucking drunk, as I am already and it and it's just like you're, like everybody understands, but like I don't fucking understand right drink some more alani, well, and let's follow along the alani is empty, but I'm gonna drink more liquor because I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm ready what do you mean? You don't get it.
Speaker 3:I'll get it now.
Speaker 1:Insurance is a big part of this.
Speaker 3:But three stages of in Alaska, in the fucking middle of fuck. This is going to be crazy. Okay, I'm going to let you go. I'm going to let you go. Go Lindsay, go Lindsay.
Speaker 1:So in 1900, mads, the husband, belle's husband, he has two life insurance policies and the way that these were set up, on July 30th of that year both of these policies would become active at the same time because he bought one. The first one that he bought was going to expire, and then the second one is going to expire, and then the second one is going to activate, but on July 30th these insurance policies are going to be active on the same day. Okay, alright, okay. And it just so happened that Mads came home with a headache that day and Belle gave him some quinine powder, which was a popular remedy at the time. So she gave him some quinine powder, which was a popular remedy at the time. So she gave him some quinine powder to take away his headache. And when she went to check on him, mads was dead From a cerebral hemorrhage.
Speaker 3:That's four Lindsay. Four fucking events.
Speaker 1:All quick with insurance, fucking bullshit baby, you are gonna have to let me tell this story because there's gonna be a lot of events we're wrestling later and we are going to have a two-hour episode, if you don't let me talk, no, I want one.
Speaker 3:I want one because we're wrestling later. This is crazy as fuck to me. I just don't fucking understand how the fuck all this is wrapped together real quick, because it's early 1900s. You're punching me so fucking fast. I don't know what the fuck is fucking happening.
Speaker 1:Well, it turns out that Belle had made a goof, or well, actually the doctor did, because according to her, what she thought was quinine powder was actually morphine fuck. So she collected that life insurance, which was five thousand dollars, and that is equal to a hundred and ninety two thousand dollars in today's money that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of fuckery going on craziness and she took off to laporte, indiana, and bought a pig farm and this farm already had a little bit of bad history, like it had been a brothel before. But bell got it and she got it going again and she renamed it abattoir acres there's so much content to talk about right now.
Speaker 3:Abattoir, I'm gonna let you fly about a pig farm brothel. I'm going to let you fucking fly about a fucking pig farm brothel.
Speaker 1:And you know there are quite a few famous people from LaPorte, including Dr Scholl the foot guy. Really yeah, the foot fucking guy, the foot guy is invented From brothel, fucking pig farm, fucking whatever.
Speaker 3:That's fucking Okay. I'm not gonna talk much about it, I'm gonna let you fly, you got a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:So, belle, when she gets her farm in La Porte she is now in her 40s and she's a single mom and boy did she look rough? And I'm gonna show you a picture really quick of her, just so you can go ahead and have her in your little brain, your little brain stem for the rest of the story.
Speaker 3:I am honestly, I am honestly involved in this whole ass fucking story. You're invested not involved, I'm involved and invested. There's Bella. I got my whole ass foot over here on Lindsay. There she is and all of her nine ass fucking, fucking kids. What the fuck is going on with her and her insurance.
Speaker 1:Well, belle, like I said, she looks rough. You just saw a picture. Yeah, okay, so she had a farm and she had a little fortune, but you know what? There is just there's never enough money. Okay, there's just never enough money. Okay, there's just never enough money.
Speaker 1:Now it said that Bell was looking for a new man by placing an ad in the Chicago Tribune, but that wasn't really successful at first. Okay, and she ended up reuniting with an old tenant of hers from Chicago Cause. So when her and Mads lived in Chicago, they had a tenant whose name was Peter Gunness, and that's how you know. She got her last name, um, and so they got reacquainted.
Speaker 1:Now, peter had been married prior to meeting Bill and he had two children, and on the second, when the second child was coming into this world, his wife sadly passed away from giving birth and the baby she passed away as well, now his surviving daughter. Her name was Swan Hilt. So, peter and Belle, they got reacquainted, they got married, she becomes Belle Gunness and within six months of this union, little Jenny Gunness went to the neighbor's house and said that her father had been burned. Fuck, please, come help. I mean, she's like you know, she's at the neighbor's door Come help my daddy's hurt. And when the neighbors get there, peter isn't burned at all, but he was laying in a pool of blood and his nose had been broken and he was dead. What the fuck is happening.
Speaker 1:So the coroner? Guess what the coroner's name is. Give me two guesses of what you think the coroner's name is.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think of a fucking cool ass name Harry Belafonte.
Speaker 1:The coroner's name was Dr Bowel Dr.
Speaker 3:Bowel. Wait a minute, I can't even pull up a fucking cool ass Belafonte on you and you pull Bowell on me. Woo, what the fuck Lindsay so?
Speaker 1:Dr Bowell was fetched and he saw that there was a contusion on the back of Peter's head as well. So he's laying in a pool of blood. His nose is broken, supposedly he's burned. Now there's a contusion on the back of Peter's head as well. So he's laying in a pool of blood. His nose is broken, supposedly he's burned. Now there's a contusion on the back of the head. So Dr Bowles' instant thought was murder. But Belle, she was like no, what had happened was I? I'm speaking in, belle. Okay, I'm boiling some brine for my hog head cheese. Okay. And Peter liked to keep his shoes near the stove to keep them warm. And when he bent down to get his shoes, the meat grinder that I had used earlier to make sausage it fell off the shelf, knocking him into the ground and also knocked over that hot brine that I was boiling. And now all of this, all this, has killed my poor peter so this is like the early 1900s right?
Speaker 1:this is 1900 no, this is a little past 1900, so mads died early 1900.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the early 19. If you're not fucking four shots in right now with me, you're not fucking joining our fucking podcast. That's what I feel like. If you're not fucking four shots into this bullshit that she's dropping on me right now, you're not joining this podcast, because I'm like holy fuckery, fuck, fuck sake, lindsey.
Speaker 1:Belle. She was hysterical, like she put on the performance of a lifetime, of course, and what's weird was Dr Bowell couldn't find any evidence of Burns.
Speaker 3:I'm going back to Bowell over here.
Speaker 1:But it was all trumped up to an accident.
Speaker 3:Trumped up.
Speaker 1:So now Peter is gone and Belle had another kid what To an accident Trumped up. So now Peter is gone and Belle had another kid what? So it's thought because she was a stout woman like weighing in the upper 200s that maybe her baby bump just didn't show. And when the midwife showed up to assist her in giving birth, belle was already supposedly had, she had already washed and dressed the baby and was doing laundry. And you know what laundry was like back in the 1900s, right, early 1900s early like we lived in the 1900s we had washing machines, but the early 1900s they were out there washboard and that shit. Right Now the baby named Phillip was just a little too big and a little too bright-eyed to be a newborn.
Speaker 3:So there's a little suspish, okay so like an eight month, eight month old showing up that part?
Speaker 1:we'll never know. That part's what part of her mystery?
Speaker 3:I feel like honestly, lindsey me and you is going to wrestle over this one, because I'm just like how in the shit are you dropping this shit on me with this? I can't get it. I can't get it. You got a lot to put out. You got a lot to put out. There's this big ass fucking story, holy fucking shit.
Speaker 1:So now Peter's dead. That's the second of her husbands that have met their untimely death. Okay, fuck, she's got another baby named Phillip who's. We don't know if that was her kid or not.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Fuck sake. So then Peter's brother Goose. He came to town and he was very suspicious about his brother's death and was very concerned about the life insurance policy on him. All of that life insurance was supposed to go to Swan Hilde and he was in town to make sure that that happened. But Bell told Gust to come on, come on and stay at the farm in a while, help out a little bit. And he's like well, where the fuck is my brother's money? So Belle told him that Peter had invested in some stocks and when that matured Swanhild would get that money.
Speaker 1:Okay, but she didn't have any documentation to prove this claim whatsoever, had none Cause. You usually I mean even back then you got some paperwork to prove you got some stocks. You got some paperwork to prove you got some stocks. So, gust, he would stay for a couple of days and then he vanishes with Swan Hilt, like he's out, he takes the baby, he's gone. So now Belle is a widowed, single mother again. Okay, but that didn't stop her. That woman could work a farm and she would dress in men's clothing and go to livestock and farm auctions. I mean, she, she had that shit.
Speaker 3:She was the mother and the father well, I mean, she came from another country, she understands the workability like I'm a man and now yeah right, yeah, and playing the whole fucking insurance scheme. That's going on Fuck.
Speaker 1:So it was said that she could lift a 200 pound hog without any issue and I immediately thought about that brute ass. Bitch on what's the name of that movie Encanto the sister. Yeah, I could just like lift up a donkey and shit Put it on her shoulders, yeah that was a great movie.
Speaker 3:I love it, we love in kanto.
Speaker 1:We've watched it so many times so she's in kanto in the 1800s, 1900s but I think that some of that like her lifting a 200 pound hog like over her shoulder, let's go pig. I think that that's just some of the folklore that comes with this story. But she for sure could butcher a hog and do the whole process about uh, you know of the butchering without a bit of help. Now, have you ever watched a? Uh, a pig be butchered?
Speaker 3:I butchered pigs.
Speaker 1:You did the whole. Thing. You shot it, you bled it out, you scalded it, you dehaired it Every bit of it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I've done every bit of it.
Speaker 1:Well, the first time that I encountered this whole process. So my uncle, well, he was actually like a cousin, but he was old enough to where you would refer to him as uncle. You know, he was like my dad's cousin, right, so he was uncle him as uncle. You know, he was like my dad's cousin, right so he was uncle. So he had a. That was what he did for a living. He butchered him.
Speaker 1:One morning I woke up really early. Uh, my granny lives on his property for uh, quite some time, about a decade and I woke up real early and I came out and I was like what you doing, uncle, hubert? And um, he was doing the whole process and I was good, like, I watched him shoot these pigs in the fucking head. I watched him boil them, do the thing. But when he strung them up and all them guts came out, I ran into my granny's house and I puked for quite some time and God bless my little cousins. We were raised very religious and they were casting the demons out of me while I was puking yeah, you're fucking fully on and fucking enveloped in the bullshit that was going on behind you.
Speaker 3:This holy shit, whoa so well.
Speaker 1:Bell, she used to be really quite friendly with the neighbors, but now they were, they were a little scared of her and she had some cows wander into a neighboring farm a little too often and the head of that farm uh got her cows and uh locked them up and when she went to retrieve them the man said you got to pay me a dollar to get them back. So she paid the money and then she did the exact same thing to him, but the difference was that she herded his cattle. She was an excellent herder. Ok, she herded his cattle onto her property and then was like now you got to pay me a dollar.
Speaker 3:This is a full on fucking human being that knows how to keep livestock and she knows how to work a farm.
Speaker 1:She grew up doing it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she can work a farm she knows everything that was what she did growing up yeah, yeah, and I know a little bit about that because I've been part of that. I've shared crop share and farm share.
Speaker 1:But you ain't done no full-fledged, functioning, money-making farm.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, but I know how.
Speaker 1:all the inner workings and I'm going to share some photos of the farm on our Instagram.
Speaker 3:Drink about something. Okay, Watch it.
Speaker 1:In late 1904, bell placed an ad for another farmhand slash companion and that ad was answered by Olaf Lindboe. Now they became close, belle and Olaf, and it was said that he became her fiancé. He sent a letter back to his father in Norway and said that he loved the farm and he was going to wed Miss Bell. Well, when some time passed, her neighbor, chris Christopherson oh, what the fuck? Not the singer, not the singer. This was way before his time. Yeah, but her neighbor, his name was Chris Christopherson. Yeah, his time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but her neighbor, his name was Chris.
Speaker 1:Kersauverson. He received word from Belle that Olaf had taken off in the middle of plowing season and she needed some help. Well, belle tells Chris that Olaf had gone off to the World's Fair and had never come back. So when Olaf's father wrote, he wrote Belle asking about his son. Belle said he had gone west to Homestead. Olaf had brought some money with him to invest into the farm. So now Belle, she's added to her stacks, ok.
Speaker 1:So then a man named Henry Gerholt came to help with the farm in April of 1905. Somewhere in 1905. Okay, he wrote a letter to his family saying that he loved it there and the house was amazing and he was being treated like he was family. So Chris Christopherson, nosy neighbor Chris. Okay. So Chris Christopherson, nosy neighbor Chris. He said that he saw Henry working and he would go out and about with Belle quite often. And then in August, during harvest season, belle goes to Chris again asking for help because Henry, he just up and quit it's like you're building this whole thing that I am so intrigued so then another ad was placed for poor bill.
Speaker 1:You know she's, she just needs some help no, she don't.
Speaker 1:And she wrote this. This was her ad. Okay, comely woman who owns a large farm in one of the finest districts of LaPorte County, indiana desires to make the acquaintance of a gentleman with a view to joining fortunes. No replies by letter will be considered unless the sender is willing to follow up with an answer with a personal visit. Triflers need not apply Trifling big try, that shit had me fucking dying. Triflers need not apply bitch, don't, don't be trifling don't be trifling don't be trifling, okay.
Speaker 1:so her mailman would say that she got several letters a day like up to 20 a day in response to her ad. The next suitor to come was George Berry and he showed up with fifteen hundred dollars seeking partnership with Bell. Then Christian Hilgevon sold his farm and came to seek partnership with bell and he tells his people that he's going to marry a rich widow.
Speaker 3:So people are uprooting and fucking bringing everything they got to this woman.
Speaker 1:And then a meal tell from Kansas answered this ad as well and came to the farm with $2,000. A guy named John from Minnesota shows up with $1,000. And now all these guys, they're gone, they have disappeared, never heard from again. And this all happens in 1905. I'm fighting the air.
Speaker 3:Fucking, fighting the fucking air and the plant does not understand and the peace lily is not giving you peace, lindsey. I am fighting everything right now with all I got and I am drunk as fuck, but we're not done yet listen here. God damn, lindsey. God damn, I'm gonna take a drink while you're ranting. Well, you should fucking take two, because you need to get on my level at this point.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm taking two okay, take two, take three, take, take two and call me in the morning because I am fucking livid right now with what the fuck scheme this woman has going on right now. And I'm fucking calling it right now, early, and I'm not calling it because I'm gonna fuck your whole fucking script and fucking bullshit out over here. Let me keep going, let me I'm not gonna let you keep going for a fucking second because, all right, fuck it, I'm gonna let you keep going. Y'all hang on Fuck.
Speaker 1:George Anderson from Missouri came and he agreed to pay off Bell's mortgage if they wed. Well, when he woke up one night to Bell towering over him and then she ran off, so did he. He's like I'm going back to Missouri. That was fucking creepy as fuck. Yeah, he literally woke up in the middle of the night to bell's big ass. She was a big woman, she was a bit that. That's a huge bitch what?
Speaker 3:why are you bringing this in here, lindsey? I'm just saying that was a huge bitch she was like.
Speaker 1:She was like about five, eight in the upper Okay. So I've heard that she was either 180 pounds or 280 pounds and that's a huge difference. That's a hundred pounds difference. The book that I listened to, that I will plug here in a little bit she was in the upper two hundreds, so she was closer to 300 pounds. Okay. So George, okay, fuck. So George, he's gone, he's back to Missouri, he's safe.
Speaker 3:He's rolling it, dude. I mean, we're already seeing it. The whole fucking people that are hearing this are already seeing this Fuck.
Speaker 1:So men keep coming and none are ever seen leaving. I mean even George, like he disappeared. He's gone, he's safe, he lived. George Anderson's gone. But men keep coming and others keep leaving and she would refer to all these men as her cousins I'm doing air quotes, cousins and these cousins would have travel trunks arrive. You know, cause that's not what they did back then. They would get on the train, their trunks would come. You know, cause that's not what they did back then. They would get on the train. Their trunks would come on a different train. You know. And uh, she had so many trunks. At one point she had like a whole room dedicated to trunks, that male suitors, and she had 15 in one room and the kids would ask questions and she would just say, oh, cousins will be back for them later.
Speaker 3:cousins will be back for them later, okay, lindsey, you're building the fucking coolest podcast I've ever seen. Who's done this?
Speaker 1:who has? A lot, a lot. This has covered, been covered a lot. I told you this is the first podcast I ever listened to. A lot, a lot this has covered, been covered a lot.
Speaker 3:I told you this is the first podcast I ever listened to and it was first riveting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first one that you've heard ever listened to in my entire sword and scale.
Speaker 3:Brought this to you brought this to my life. I'm just like why haven't I heard this? This is so much fuckery. She's stacking them up for money.
Speaker 1:She's stacking her money. She's stacking them trunks. Just got it going home?
Speaker 3:Yes, okay, holy fucking shit. Bags of fucking bullshittery. Fuck, dude, this is the coolest podcast I've ever been in. Keep on riding. You got like 900 pages to go. No, not really, we're good, you got 900. You got like 900 pages to go.
Speaker 1:No, not really. We're good we got 900.
Speaker 3:You got 999 pages to go Bullshit. A fucking flip on me and I want to fucking keep on flipping back at you. This is going to be a long one. Y'all hang on, cause fuck.
Speaker 1:We're about halfway through, we're good.
Speaker 3:So one farmhand named Emil Greening named emile greening, who was a polish immigrant.
Speaker 1:So bell had her companion farmhands like her companion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she wasn't fucking around with that and then she had like day labors, and so emile was like a day laborer. He said that he was instructed to dig some holes for her, some deep holes for her, near hog pens, and she would tell him that this was for disposing of garbage. Okay, so now we're in 1906. Jenny, her adopted daughter, had turned into a beautiful young lady and a meal. Her little day laborer, bell's day laborer, wanted to start courting Jenny. Bell's day laborer wanted to start courting Jenny. Well, one day Bell tells Emil that Jenny has gone off to finish her education in California, but no one saw her leave. This is her daughter. So Bell said that she had arranged for a professor from the school that she was to attend to come and escort her to that school, but nobody saw the professor come or go and nobody saw Jenny leave. Put a pin in that.
Speaker 3:No, I don't want to, because we know what a pin in that we know what's happening?
Speaker 1:Well, after this Bell or not, not Bell, but a meal he has he really doesn't have a desire to work for Bell anymore. So he quits and Bell hires this guy named Ray Lamphere. Now, ray had been kind of a piece of shit. He drank, he gambled and he enjoyed the company of older sex workers. Well, he and Bell, they would become lovers.
Speaker 3:This is dirty, do you know?
Speaker 1:that SNL skit Lovers.
Speaker 3:That's one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 1:So that's with Will Ferrell, the Debbie Downer chick God, I don't know her name. And then Jimmy Fallon I love the Debbie Downer, yeah. And then Drew Barrymore so that was. And then Jimmy Fallon I love the Sammy Downer, yeah. And then Drew Barrymore, so that was. That was one of Jimmy Fallon's first skits on SNL and that's when I fell in love with that dude because he couldn't stop laughing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he still can't stop laughing to this day.
Speaker 3:All the best skits are when they break. Yes, yeah. Jimmy Fallon to me I I started following jimmy fallon in the 90s and I have followed his career so far.
Speaker 1:No, because he broke the best way.
Speaker 3:Yes, honestly, because he was just so we can go back to adam sandler oh yeah, we love adam sandler period, but like the next generation. It was just like the next generation when he, when you seen Jimmy break in, it was just like that's genuine.
Speaker 1:That was shit, that was gold. Like I honestly fall in love. Adam Sandler's SNL time is nothing to me compared to his movies, but Jimmy Fallon, that was when I really first started watching snl and I, just, you know, kept going with it yeah, so dna, though all of them, jimmy.
Speaker 3:All the way back, dude, we go all the way back. We're old, yes, fuck so back to bell.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they're lovers, but at the same time, belle is exchanging correspondence with another husband, slash farmhand, slash partner. His name was Andrew Helglian, yes, and he was from Aberdeen South Dakota, but he was also a Norwegian immigrant.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So Belle, this girl okay, she laid it on thick in these letters and correspondence and she's trying to get this man to come to her farm, but she always made sure to tell him at the end of each letter that he should not tell anyone that he's coming, and this would be like an almost 18-month endeavor for her. Yeah, she puts in the work for Andrew. I don't know why, because she's still getting lots of responses from other people, but she wants Andrew.
Speaker 3:Really yeah. So she's folding all these guys that are popping in and they disappear.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:They got money, they show up.
Speaker 1:She gets the money and you don't ever hear from them. Fuckers again, deuces, fuck. So in the meantime, while she's corresponding with Andrew, an elderly widower showed up with some cash. I think his name was Ola. He showed up with some cash and I think his name was Ola. He showed up with some cash and he was never seen again. And when his sons figured out where he had gone to, they wrote Belle and asked where their father was and Belle said well, I haven't seen him. And she continues to write Andrew and even offered to make him all kinds of yummy foods, especially cream pudding. Now, I don't know what the fuck cream pudding is. I should have Googled it and I want to get a recipe, because this bitch talked about cream pudding a lot.
Speaker 3:I want some.
Speaker 1:I will make you cream pudding. Yeah, she was, the cream pudding was the selling point. I think it was a selling point. I think, yeah, yeah, I want some. So she would also call him her one and only best friend. Okay, so in january 1908, andrew finally shows up. Now he had been ill a couple of times, you know, he had been going through some shit. He planned on visiting Belle. Belle finally, like, gave him the dear John letter. Like, motherfucker, if you don't get here soon, this arrangement is off, oh off. And uh, yeah, no, she's like, this arrangement is off, okay that's better.
Speaker 3:I was like looking at you and I'm like what?
Speaker 1:This isn't happening and all this time, like I mean she, like Ola, has already come and gone. He's disappeared. We don't know where the fuck he is. And then, when Andrew shows up, belle kicked Ray, her other farmhand that she's been a lover, lovers with. Okay, she kicks him right the fuck out and said you sleep in the bond. Now you sleep in the bond.
Speaker 3:She didn't offhand though.
Speaker 1:Andrew, he gets your room. You go to the bond. Yes, complete control, complete control, control. Andrew and Bell. They head down to the bank to cash in some deposit certificates. Well, andrew, he's only been in town about three days so far. He showed up right, he's got them certificates. He's ready to get Belle her money, the money has showed up, not him. But they were told that it would take a few days for that to happen, like four or five days for him to be able to retrieve the actual value of the money.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's got to wait this time, okay.
Speaker 1:And Belle was pissed and tried to argue, but it was what it was and they returned about three days after the money arrived, Like the bank teller said that she had been pissed and then it seemed like they weren't in any hurry. It was weird to the bank teller. I'm holding back right now.
Speaker 1:But when the money arrived and they show up to get it three days after it had arrived, Andrew, he was a little ill. Now they collected the $2,800 in 1908 money. Okay, they collected the $2,800 and went back to the farm and Andrew, can you guess he fucking died. No, he was never seen again, yeah whatever the equivalent of died.
Speaker 1:And he had kept true to his word and he didn't tell anyone of his plans to come to Belle's farm. Now his brother Azul, he starts to worry about him, so he starts investigating a little bit and he finds all these letters from bell, I mean, and like I said, this bitch laid it on thick I'm gonna plug the book at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that I listened to and you guys, you gotta listen to it because it, uh, they go into detail about bell's letters that I could not write that all in this script. I just couldn couldn't do it.
Speaker 3:So our whistleblower is showing up, right, do I feel like it?
Speaker 1:Not really All right.
Speaker 3:Somebody's showing up, let me tell that story.
Speaker 1:Okay, god, okay, all right. So on February 3rd 1908, belle and Ray. They get into a huge fight. Now, ray was her former lover, still a farmhand, but he either quits or he is fired. And Belle, she hires another hand named Joe Maxon. So Ray goes and he talks to an attorney about some unpaid wages from Belle.
Speaker 1:She gets ahead of the narrative a little bit. She says Ray is crazy, he's a menace and he is harassing and threatening me and he's stalking me. And she had him arrested about three times and one of those arrests like they they psyche, eval him. Ray goes through some shit. Okay, azel Andrew's brother. He writes to Belle inquiring about his brother's whereabouts and Belle writes him back and said well, I would like to know where he is too. All she knew that he was looking for his other brother who I think was in New York somewhere doing some shit in April. She, the teacher of the Gunness kids, would later say that the girls had come in crying after receiving quite a beating from their mom when she caught them playing near the cellar door. So what's you hiding in that cellar though, belle?
Speaker 1:She's going by Belle yeah.
Speaker 3:So her machine is just so fucking big that she can control and manipulate the whole fucking system. She's got it figured out that fast.
Speaker 1:Well, I have to assume that the strict investigations behind life insurance policies were probably started because of Bill.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, for sure. We're probably started because of bill. Yeah, oh, for sure. And that's where I was like we're fighting later because I want to pull the plug on all the bullshit right off. Rip and you're like fuck you, Shut up.
Speaker 1:I want to tell my story but I do have a long one and I try to make it not a two parter. Yeah, cause I've got a big one to cover in September and, by the way, you guys happy September and this is my birthday month, Fuck yeah.
Speaker 3:I done. Bought you a gift already.
Speaker 1:Oh, you have.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you're literally in the presence of it, but you don't know it.
Speaker 1:I don't know it. And I like to be surprised, isn't?
Speaker 3:that cool, so shut the hell up. No, I'm just saying you're in the fucking room of it right now.
Speaker 1:And backstory. Jesse likes to give away surprises really early and I'm like stop it. I like to be surprised.
Speaker 3:Have I not given you the best fucking birthdays ever? Oh?
Speaker 1:yeah, jesse has given me surprise birthday parties twice, two times Three, no twice.
Speaker 3:We did. Your 30th was amazing. That wasn't a surprise though. We did your 30th. It was amazing.
Speaker 1:I wasn't surprised, though we planned that quite a bit in advance, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, we've done so many cool fucking parties.
Speaker 1:Yes, we've done some cool shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, soft birthday party.
Speaker 1:Yes, super soft. You got to look up Letterkenny or you got to watch Letterkenny. Find the Super Soft Birthday, because that's what I had for my 40th.
Speaker 3:And then we did another one that was just like all your friends, everybody showed up to my favorite Mexican restaurant.
Speaker 1:It was amazing, because it was weird too, because we had planned on a different restaurant and Jesse's like babe, I've really been feeling that meal that we always get at El Paso. Do you think we should do that for your birthday? I don't. He was like I don't want to take away from your, but I was like, fuck yeah, bitch, I will eat at El Patro's anytime.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Anytime and everybody was there when, when we showed up, all my friends were there, like I almost passed out. Yeah, sometimes when we showed up, all my friends were there Like I almost passed out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Sometimes, honestly, Lindsay, I plan your birthday parties eight months ahead of time.
Speaker 1:Is that bad? Well, don't do that, because I don't want to do another big one until I'm 50.
Speaker 3:Don't say, don't do that, because I'm allowed to, because I'm going to do a.
Speaker 1:Sally O'Malley party, because I'm going to be 50.
Speaker 3:That's our next one, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's our next one. Yeah, that's my next, from here until 50, which is years from now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't need big birthdays until then? No, but I've planned your birthday parties months, half a year ahead, ahead of time and you're the absolute tits for that. Yeah well, in this fucking pot right now, your story is fucking absolute. All right, let's get back to it. All right, come on.
Speaker 1:So Bella is still claiming that Ray is harassing her and she's spreading that around town and she says that she fears Ray will set fire to her house and murder her children. Okay, hey, you listen? Are you paying attention?
Speaker 3:The whole time is fucking.
Speaker 1:So on April 28th she talks to a lawyer we're in 1908, by the way. Okay, april 28th she talks to a lawyer and says that she fears for her life and she wants to make a will, leaving everything for her children. She then buys some candy and some cakes at the general store, along with some kerosene.
Speaker 3:Fuck.
Speaker 1:Joe Maxson says that they had a big dinner that night and he went to bed first because he's been working all day long. You know he's the farmhand and I shit you not Really. In the middle of the night he wakes up and the house is on fire and I set fire to the rain.
Speaker 2:Watch it burn.
Speaker 3:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:So, joe, he tries to get out of his room, but the fire is too thick and it's too dense, the roof is starting to collapse. So he jumps from the second story window and he runs like he jumps down from second story window and runs into town. But it was too late. What? There was nothing left but brick walls, ash and soot and the bodies of three children, myrtle, lucy and Philip, all in their beds, and a woman, and the woman who was assumed to be Belle. Of course her head was gone. So, sheriff Schmutzler, he was called immediately, immediately, and he went off to find Ray Lamphere, because this was exactly what Bell was saying that he was going to do. One guy said that he had been watching the fire from the road and said that he saw Ray run away from the house. But Ray actually, actually, in fact, had an alibi he was in the comfort and company of an elderly black woman that night, which, uh, actually made him seem more guilty at that time, because you know, yeah, for fuck's sake right.
Speaker 1:So he was arrested and charged with arson and murder. Well, volunteers in the area, they they wanted to search for Bell's head, because why the fuck was her head cut off Right? And neighbors would say that the body was too small to be Bell's Ooh was too small to be Bell's Ooh. This was the body of a woman who was 5'2 and about 150 pounds, whereas Bell was 5'7 to 5'8 and weighed about 200 pounds to 300 pounds. It was reported that the body in question contained lethal doses of strychnine. Fuck, of course. Well, they would never find Bell's head.
Speaker 3:Bell done dipped.
Speaker 1:But guess what they would find? Okay, I'm ready the murdered and dismembered bodies of Andrew Heglian, jenny Olsen we're fighting two unidentified children and many, many more Full-on leg wrestling Later.
Speaker 1:There were so many bodies that Bell's Carriage House became a makeshift morgue. Oh my God, many of these bodies or body parts, we'll say had been wrapped in burlap sacks when they were, like they had been buried for so long that their flesh had become like jelly. The amount of bodies total discovered is not really known, but it is said to have been 12. And it is believed that Bill had about 40 victims.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, Lindsay, I've gone to the plant.
Speaker 1:Pray to the peace lily gods over there. Okay, I, I'm gonna let you soak that in for a minute give me a second.
Speaker 3:I'm verklempt. I'm verklempt. I'm over here talking about like seven to eight motherfuckers and you done pulled out a whole ass fucking pile of motherfuckers and we don't need all these motherfuckers. And they done died up in this motherfucker and this is a horrific ass motherfucker up in your motherfucking fucking fucker. Lindsay, are you kidding me right now? This really fucking happened in this motherfucker. I'm sorry, samuel ass fucking motherfucking Jackson and his motherfucker, but motherfucker.
Speaker 1:So this obviously made headlines everywhere and the story of Hell's Bell, the Black Widow of the Midwest, the Butcher of Men, the Lady Bluebeard or Hell's Princess, spread like wildfire and Hell's Princess is the name of the audio book that I listened to about this case.
Speaker 3:But what about ACDC?
Speaker 1:Hell's Bell. They were talking about fucking Bell Gunn.
Speaker 3:Are you fucking kidding me right now? I really don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know but what I mean ACDC has fucking a song called hell's bell.
Speaker 3:Yes, they do are you fucking kidding me right now? This is the fucking most horrific thing so far. No, honestly, body count, everything count hold on, let me get there. You ain't there yet. I ain't there yet. I got to keep going. I'm I'm torn to the plant over here. You see me, I'm looking at over here and our peace lily has bloomed over here by the way.
Speaker 1:Well, we've already talked about that.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm getting over here.
Speaker 1:So, ray, he would go on to be tried for the arson and the murders, but would only be convicted for the arson. The bodies that were recovered were said to have been murdered and dismembered with absolute rage. Jesse, she then got them. Most of them had defensive wounds, and after they had been chopped up, it was said that the bones, and like the bone end pieces, had been hammered down.
Speaker 3:She just kept on fucking going, didn't she? I'm saying she, I don't know, but like I feel like full on she.
Speaker 1:It was she, it was she, it was she, it was she, it was she, it was a whole bell.
Speaker 3:This is a whole lot. Okay, I'm going back to the plant I need. I need a plant dude, I need a plant.
Speaker 1:Robert. Well, there was definitely speculation and now legend that bell killed her whole family and got away. There have been recording sightings of her throughout history and one woman was even arrested on suspicion of her being Belle, but it was found that she wasn't. Now Belle's farm that became quite the attraction for some time. After this Admission was charged popcorn, charged popcorn, candy, ice cream and cake.
Speaker 3:They were served to spectators for her fucking farm of the.
Speaker 1:Yes, listen, listen, wait people were having picnics with their families at this murder farm and people would take dirt from the grave sites as souvenirs. Fuck what the fuck, no, like.
Speaker 3:Okay, you're pulling in Belle, the name Belle. There's a Tennessee Belle that we need to pull in later on. Okay, the Belle Witch Caves have you heard about that?
Speaker 1:No, I'll dig into it though.
Speaker 3:Okay, y'all need to check that shit out About a witch that had a cave that did her old thing in Tennessee, the whole Bell Witch Cave thing. Right, I think it was Tennessee. I may be wrong. Maybe later on we'll do that, but the Bell fucking name is just in my soul. She's killed over like 40 people and that's just.
Speaker 1:I mean, like I said, we know of 12 body parts, but let me keep going, okay, we're almost saying right now I feel like it's way more than that it's a shit ton.
Speaker 1:So I mean, like I said, this woman had had some game for a woman that had been described as a stout woman with a frog's mouth and grotesquely small feet. Frog's mouth Now Ray. Like I said, he was convicted on the arson but not the murders. Ray would die about a year later. I think it was of tuberculosis I didn't write it down, but I'm pretty sure that that's what it was. But before he died he confessed that he had been an accomplice for Bell's murders and that she did get away. Really. He said that she would poison the suitors with strychnine or chloroform them, she would bash their heads in and take them down to the cellar for dismemberment. She would then either bury them or feed them to the hogs. So you know that a hog is going to eat everything.
Speaker 3:Everything.
Speaker 1:If you're not from the South or have not heard about what pigs can do, they will eat everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a perfect ass scheme that she had, and thousands of fucking dollars are coming in. Oh my God, she's playing the system Now. He fucking great.
Speaker 1:Now. He did confirm that the headless woman found in the fire was not Belle. No, but it was a housekeeper that was sent to her from Chicago.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, we all knew that Bitch. We all knew that. I ain't trying to call you nothing derogatory, but we're leg wrestling. Later you called me bitch, like the last podcast, and that is the story the whole story legend of bell guns. There ain't no legend behind that, lindsay, and I just want to say holy fuckery on your story, holy ass fuckery dude, I cannot grasp this at this dude. I cannot grasp this at this moment. I cannot grasp it. It is insane 18 early 1900s well it's.
Speaker 1:I mean, it is believed that it started in the late 1800s because, like I said, she was impregnated out of wedlock and that guy died from arsenic poisoning. It was just complete fucking. So we don't know. There are certain things we'll never know because we don't have what we have now.
Speaker 1:It was scams on top of scams, and she knew Now, later on later on in recent years her DNA was tested because there was a jawbone found in the rubble and her dentist confirmed that that was that work that was done on that jawbone was some of his work.
Speaker 3:Why haven't I heard this?
Speaker 1:But recent year DNA testing has been done and there's still no conclusion that that was bell this woman grabbed all her shit and dipped the fuck out yeah, that's what I mean. She had like the equivalent of six million dollars saved. Hang on today's money wait a fucking minute.
Speaker 3:So she grabbed all this money, killed, killed every fucking body, everybody, and dipped out of the hog farm.
Speaker 1:Including her kids. Now a lot of people wondered why? Why the fuck were you killed Jenny? Well, it was speculated that, you know, Jenny had become quite the beautiful young woman. Yeah, and it was either said that either Jenny knew too much or she was now competition for bell suitors.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah so the the crazy spin on all of this is the deep-seated fucking parts that are all played into all of this that's happening. So so many moving parts, so much debauchery, and she's just like constantly bringing in suitors and fucking them up, constantly Taking their fucking money, taking them out.
Speaker 1:Fuck. Lindsay this is, and putting them in, either the holes that she had had dug by her farmhands or the hogs.
Speaker 3:How would you think that this was a real thing in the early 1900s at a fucking pig farm from an immigrant or migrant, whatever. Immigrant, immigrant that came in and created something coming up full-on American fucking dream and just fucking played the system at the same time. I mean she had game.
Speaker 1:They said that she purred like a kitten in the bedroom.
Speaker 3:Oh, I meant she did Kitty kitty.
Speaker 1:But like fuck, dude, and like I said, I'm going to post pictures of Belle in our stories, so make sure you follow us on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Drink About.
Speaker 1:Something and on our website drink about something, about sites, our socials, Jesse Samba, Lindsay Samba See the plant that Lindsay yeah.
Speaker 2:Turning to over here.
Speaker 3:It's beautiful. Today is fucking. It has been blooming and I love it.
Speaker 1:And if you notice in the background, I've got so one of the grand babies that stayed the night. Last night they jerked on our grandbaby snake plant, yeah, so we've got it propped up with a straw and a hair clip.
Speaker 3:It's a snake plant. That is our grandchild. That's what makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a grandbaby snake plant.
Speaker 3:When we first moved here, not long after we got in and we started a snake plant and it died all the way and I replanted it and it's still living.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's still living. We got a straw. It's the grand baby sprout.
Speaker 3:Because we decided to go ham at Arby's and we got an Arby's straw holding on to our snake plant.
Speaker 1:We used all the coupons at Arby's last night. But fuck's sake, lindsay, and shout out to Lake City, florida. Arby's, all of our food was delicious.
Speaker 3:Some true crime just happened there too, by the way.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, it did. Yeah, a shooting at our Arby's that.
Speaker 1:Arby's had a shooting not too long ago.
Speaker 3:For fuck's sake, god damn, for fuck's sake, goddamn, we should cover that.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll talk about that in our recap for next week.
Speaker 3:True crime. True crime happened at our Arby's with a straw that's holding up our snake plant over here.
Speaker 1:You will see in the background of our picture on Instagram that will be posted on Friday.
Speaker 3:Yes, we will Plug it, Pluggy and Sherry, Sherry and all the cool stuff.
Speaker 1:And give us a review. That's what we're talking about right, jesse, what band are you plugging today?
Speaker 3:I have a band you do. I have a band, we almost forgot about the damn band because we're literally.
Speaker 1:My jesse is so intrigued by this story he is y'all. He is riveted right now is is this on our break, on our yes. On our bathroom breaks. He has been like what the fuck, lindsay, this is the best shit you've ever told me in your life.
Speaker 3:So there's some early 1900s shit that happened in Lake City with Al Capone, that I want to share, but anyhow it wasn't that early though Love that period. It wasn't that early. No, it was the 30s.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So not early, early, but mid-early, whatever.
Speaker 3:Anyhow, it was in the Depression era. Yeah, I want to share this band, though it's called Zim Zim.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me find them on Instagram. Check out Zim real quick.
Speaker 3:And this song is called Jiggy Juice.
Speaker 1:So let's listen to this song, and then, at the end, I will tell you where you can find them.
Speaker 3:You.
Speaker 1:Let's listen to this song and then at the end I will tell you where you can find them you know where they're from. Where are they?
Speaker 3:from Harlem, oh shit, yeah, new York City, and they are a part of the Mandalay Worldwide Artist Development Group that I hooked up with, and you guys need to check that shit out. I find development groups and, like, I mean, we started with all this and all the bands from another group that shared so many bands to us and it's just sharing. That's what we want to do. That is exactly what we want to do. So this song is called Jigga Juice and I want you guys to check that shit out. And I'm a little drunk, I ain't gonna lie. Slurry, slurry, because Lindsay has me fucked up over this one.
Speaker 2:So check this song out. Thank you Before the lights go out. Give a seat before the sun dies down. What I was born with is all I got right now. The richest man ain't the richest man, come fuck with me. I got a master plan, this gun clappin' and don't need no hands. Don't really need a gang. I'm by my Wu-Tang clan. Was only gone for a second.
Speaker 2:Shit started gettin' hectic, brought bad, so I left it. Tryna make one more effort, but a nigga, so effin'. I'm getting like me, catch a hit like me, want the good like me, and I'll be here forever Saying that you love me won't change me. Did you really think that we was gonna last? I wasn't wanting on me. Now I'm nothing.
Speaker 2:Left each other, hurt, trying to get to the back, let alone a nice juice, and you're tearing down the roof. You ain't being optimistic, trying to give me time and yeah, I missed it, ain't you? You don't even like that word. You don't feel it too? This way, I'm not your girl and you're committed. The money's what you prefer, and I take it how you said it, cause you meant every word.
Speaker 2:So dead for nothing, nowhere of intention. You ain't have my best in mind, babe. You cut off connections, wanted energy. You quit all that cussing. If you would've told me that, then you cut off connections. Want your energy. You paid all that coffee. If you wouldn't tell me that, then you wouldn't get my loving. And you know that Bitches ain't smart like me, cause I'm smarter Teaching young haters that I feel like I'm your father In a man's world. But the bitches go no harder. Thank you, I'm all right. Pass the ice chicken juice and I got a surprise, cause bitches ain't good like me. Catch a hit like me, want the feel like me, and I'll be here forever. I pick up fast, stay low, stop and go. Just let you know that I'm all right. Pass the ice chicken juice and I got a surprise.
Speaker 3:That is the epitome of what we are about, Lindsay Just sharing bands, all cultures, all everything. I love it and spending that time with reaching out to so many different artists that want to put their music out.
Speaker 1:I love it. Yes, that was a really cool song and okay. So if you want to find this band, you can find them at Mandalay Worldwide, which is M-A-N-D-A-L-A-E underscore worldwide, and the artist is Keziah K-E-Z-I-A-H.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is where, yes, it's like so follow Mandalay Worldwide. And then you click on at official underscore Zim, yes, and that's where you find the singer. Yeah, they're just starting up, they're just getting going.
Speaker 3:Brand new, brand new Artist development stuff. So if you dig the stuff, follow it, support, follow all the links. It's so new and it's so amazing. I love the divide, the whole fucking thing, and I've seen the video. They have this whole artist development thing going on and there's like a skateboarding thing, there's this whole little thing that I seen. It was just like this is fucking beautiful. Art is beautiful. It is Music is art Amazing, and I love every bit of all of it Absolutely, so I want to embrace it.
Speaker 1:That's why we're here to support I want to embrace it.
Speaker 3:Check it all out and this story period.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned for our recap on this one on Wednesday. For fuck's sake.
Speaker 3:So immigrant woman came over, fucked around a whole lot of fuckery and then had a pig farm and then fucked around a whole lot more fuckery and now, if you want like deep, deep ass details of the trial of Ray Lamphere, check out that book that I read.
Speaker 1:There was way too many details for me to put into this story. That's what I was talking about, so I wrapped it up real tight, but yeah, so it's about six to eight hours somewhere in there I bet that audio book it's called hell's princess you'll get a lot of details on what ray went through. Yeah, because she was playing like insurance.
Speaker 3:She was, oh yeah, just people getting them in, getting their money, fucking them up. You know what's funny Feeding them to pigs.
Speaker 1:Fuck One podcaster that I listened to that did cover this story. Every time there was a come up for her he would play like little snippets of moving on up, moving on up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, every fucking time. Yeah every time. How could that fucking not be my genius?
Speaker 1:And see, he can only play a few. Moving on up, he can only play a few. He can only play like seconds of it.
Speaker 2:So you don't get. You know, fine with copyright shit.
Speaker 1:But I really enjoyed. Yeah, I think his name was Dan Cummings that guy who didn't watch that shit at our age. Fuck, oh my God, fucking with the Jefferson.
Speaker 3:Every bit of all. I can do. The walk I can do George.
Speaker 1:Jefferson's walk. Yeah and Wheezy.
Speaker 3:Wheezy, wheezy, hey, wheezy. Every bit of all that is DNA.
Speaker 1:And she was like I don't like when you call me Wheezy, because you know I got asthma bitch. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Tell your husband not to call you out on your fucking disabilities and then, at the same time, with all that bullshit going on, archie.
Speaker 1:Bunker with that. Well, they had a crossover.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about. So it's just like.
Speaker 1:Archie Bunker's racist fucking boomer ass.
Speaker 3:Nobody gave actual fuck that was. That was the end of, that was the literally end of all that bullshit was that time.
Speaker 1:But you know, okay, so I love all in the family which is archie bunker, yeah, and edith and all that shit, yeah, but I really love his role, which is what I grew up watching was, uh, in the heat of the night, that was some true crime like this was like honestly, the 90s TV shows is where it started, I had Rescue 911, I had Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Schacht.
Speaker 1:That shit was iconic and I couldn't sleep a lot. And then In the Heat of the Night, which was a fictional show, but it was definitely based but his voice. And then in the heat of the night, which was a fictional show, right, it was definitely based on true crime. And then, um, god, there was, there was another one I think everybody started with. What else did I watch with?
Speaker 3:unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 1:I think everybody, anybody that was yeah, that watched tv in the 90s period, whether you being an adult, because my me and my dad watch that shit together, so, and he's a boomer, my dad's a boomer, yeah, and, um, you know, I'm a millennial I'm an elder millennial, this was part of it. So if you're post unsolved mysteries, let us know oh yeah, that's why this shit's a big deal now. That's why true. Shit's a big deal now.
Speaker 3:That's why true crime's a big deal. It is Post-Unsolved Mystery people that are listening to our fucking podcast. I want to hear it.
Speaker 1:Well, because this shit wasn't covered as widely Like everybody wants to. Like I said, I'm here to debunk the good old days Like there's no such thing, no Period, no such thing, no. Like I said, if you had good old days, that means you had a great childhood. She dove back to the fucking early 1900s, late 1800s. This is what blew my mind. There were insurance scams as early how, as I mean, this bitch came to america in 1881.
Speaker 3:Maybe she is the fucking full-on reason why she is, I mean honestly so bell, gunness bell gunness is one bell.
Speaker 1:Gunness is one of the most um. What is the word that I'm looking for? Plurific. Is that right?
Speaker 3:that's not right horrific, not horrific, but all the horrific.
Speaker 1:She is one of the biggest body count of women serial killers yeah, top notch in history that we know of, right well there's more, I mean oh, there's more. There's body count of women serial killers yeah, top notch In history that we know of. Right, well, there's more. I mean, oh, there's more, there's more. One day we're going to cover old Bloody Mary, bloody Mary and we're going to make.
Speaker 3:We're going to make a Bloody Mary while we're covering Bloody Mary.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's going to be a brunch episode.
Speaker 3:We may do it live. We just came out with a live thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you, if you checked out our recap, our Wednesday recap, it is video. It is audio or not video it is. Yeah, it's our faces.
Speaker 3:So we're going to do audio on everything. Check it out on YouTube, video on YouTube and then.
Speaker 1:Jesse is actually going to make that audio as well. For those of you who don't watch audio or watch video, excuse me, so it as well. For those of you who don't watch audio or watch video, excuse me, so it will be on youtube and it will be on your regular podcast feed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so more work for me so much yes, more work.
Speaker 1:Well, you only got to do one this week.
Speaker 3:That well, technically two yeah yeah, so more work for me. I don't mind it and that's okay and it's new for me. I put in. Look at this, this is a new challenge for me.
Speaker 1:Waving my notes in this face, fl. This, this is a new challenge for me, waving my notes in his face.
Speaker 3:Flicking your papers at me and we're going to leg wrestle later.
Speaker 1:And I just I want to go ahead and say that the next case we're going to cover is going to be at least two, possibly three parts, and it is horrific.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So be ready, I'm going to go ahead and give a blanket trigger warning for this next case that I'm going to do. It's terrible, it's horrible, but it needs to be talked about, and you know, I gotta make Jesse just puddle in the plant has so much abuse and then when that's over, we're going to go to New England and we're going to cover somebody completely different from New England. We're going to go to New England and we're going to cover somebody completely different Exactly From New England.
Speaker 3:We're going to New England, so follow all of that and I'm so excited for that. Thank you, zim, for your art and thank you, mandalay Worldwide for fucking making this happen. Dude, all of you that are trying to put out music, hit us up absolutely.
Speaker 3:We are here to support period it is the the best art period I love pictures, I love, I love, I love paintings, I love everything that is artwork, but music as far as a art form, baby, it's the best speaking of which, I did discover a museum of bad art that I would really love to visit while we're in boston I know.
Speaker 1:So follow me on tiktok uh, so you can uh stay tuned for that coverage, and in uh, so we leave out on that journey for new england on september 26th. So follow me, drink about something. Pod underscore lindsey on tiktok for coverage on that journey for New England on September 26th. So follow me DrinkAboutSomethingPod underscore Lindsay on TikTok for coverage on that shit, and Jesse will be reposting as well.
Speaker 3:We're fucking sharing everything we can, so DrinkAboutSomethingsite all of our personals. Deftones has a new fucking album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we still haven't listened to that shit. What's wrong with us?
Speaker 3:Why I've heard like two songs we're gonna listen to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah fucking, but now we gotta need we gotta we gotta go enjoy some dinner, we gotta sober you up boo-boo, so you can have another drink.
Speaker 3:I need to. I need to. Oh fuck, mud vein has a new song out.
Speaker 1:There's so much new shit lauren ashore has new songs out that I'm completely fucking digging alex is over there doing his shit over there at slaughter tripperville. Every fucking week all new crazy ass fucking covers and crazy ass songs and I don't have it off the top of my head, but I did discover a new band uh, a new deathcore band that I really love and I will plug that in our recap we're gonna hit them up see if we can get them on this podcast right, yes, love you, zim.
Speaker 3:love all the bands that we do. Check out all the bands. We're going to have a recap on our 50th coming up. There's so much cool shit coming, so stay tuned. Share with all your friends and like, subscribe the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1:And definitely review us so we can get into the algorithm.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there's a joke that I told way back I want to send you some merch. So if you want to follow that and find the joke that I've been talking about, fucking, I'm going to send you some merch. Dude, I'm and the the.
Speaker 1:Adam Sandler. The Happy Gilmore, yeah, the count on all the flask, on all the flask, yes, and Happy Gilmore to don't cheat.
Speaker 3:I want to know the fucking full on yes. Count of how many flasks flood us with your emails yes and dms, we want it. We want it. Yes, I want to send you merch. I want to send you merch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we want to send you speaking of merch, we just purchased from big steppen and jennifer turpin this this week. Yes and uh, we're gonna post pictures, yep.
Speaker 3:Holy fuck dude. We tagged him. We purchased from Aaron Goodwin and.
Speaker 1:Jennifer Turpin. Aaron Goodwin is the survivor of a hit put out on him, and Jennifer Turpin is the survivor of parents that abused and starved her. Yeah.
Speaker 3:All horrific.
Speaker 1:And make sure you read her book when was God, because that is one of the best books I have read so far this year.
Speaker 3:So all the horrific things you got me pointing to the plant again already, and it's blooming. All of these fucking stories over this plant is just absorbing all of my oh, my God and fuckery that you have put on me.
Speaker 1:This plant is going to reach to the ceiling by the time you give it all of your energy.
Speaker 3:This is the strongest fucking plant in the in the galaxy.
Speaker 1:I swear to god no you'll notice in the picture, there's a little ouija board behind it too. But oh yeah, it's just from tj maxx, it's whatever. Yeah, it's whatever, it's whatever it's whatever.
Speaker 3:We'll see you guys next friday though yes, we're something new.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's gonna be a start of a series, lindsey, you have poured some fucking shit on me and I love it.
Speaker 3:It is just fucking the tits. 1800s, early 1900s holy fuckery, I love you to death. We will see you guys next friday. Check us all out bye.
