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DRUNK ABOUT SOMETHING: Kendra Licari is a catfish
Set in the tight-knit community of Bill City, Michigan, this harrowing story begins when 13-year-old Lauren and her boyfriend Owen start getting increasingly hostile, sexually explicit, and psychologically damaging messages from a mysterious sender. What starts as insinuations about infidelity quickly escalates into a full-blown psychological assault, with the unknown caller telling Lauren she's worthless, flat-chested, and should kill herself—sometimes sending dozens of messages per day.
The moment the FBI traces the messages back to their source delivers one of the most shocking revelations in recent documentary history. Lauren's own mother, Kendra Licari, had been sending these vicious messages while simultaneously comforting her daughter at home. The body cam footage capturing Lauren learning this truth is absolutely heartbreaking—a teenager faced with the ultimate betrayal from the person who should have been her fiercest protector.
But Kendra's deception went even deeper. Her husband Sean discovers she'd been lying about going to work for over a year, putting the family in financial ruin while she dedicated herself full-time to anonymously tormenting her daughter.
The documentary raises profound questions about maternal relationships, mental health, and digital safety. How does someone compartmentalize such radically different personas? What drives a mother to systematically destroy her child's self-esteem? And how does a young person recover from such a fundamental breach of trust?
Have you ever wondered if you truly know the people closest to you? This documentary will make you question everything about trust, family bonds, and the masks we sometimes wear. Share your thoughts after watching—I'd love to hear your perspective on this unbelievable true story.
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Hey Jesse, hello Lindsay.
Speaker 2:What you got going on here. You're a little crooked.
Speaker 1:No, I want it to be crooked.
Speaker 2:No, can I straighten it? This is one of our grandbabies hats from Halloween. Last year we pulled it all out. They were witch kittens, Okay well. So we pulled out all our Halloween. I look snazzy.
Speaker 1:Yep Snazzy.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll take it. Hang on, let me get my. I liked it. No, but you know I wanted to get my shit right. Let me get my shit right, lindsay.
Speaker 2:Okay, but I had to play what are you drinking today or right now?
Speaker 1:right now, yeah at this moment it's the raspberry still on a raspberry parade On. Raspberry Parade at Vista Bay. Well, I've got.
Speaker 2:I'm still continuing with my little, okay. So we recorded a little bit today. So I have a in this sparkly cup with an umbrella on top I have vodka, blue ice vodka, watermelon. It's like an Aldi version of an Alati Alani, not Alati.
Speaker 1:A lot of Alani. We're drunk about something raw. Here we are.
Speaker 2:Raw, uncut and unedited. So I've got vodka, I've got watermelon energy drink, I've got sparkling water and that's it yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had Alani and I'm almost done with this because we just recorded part one of David Parker Ray you destroyed me, so I'm out of Alani because I was destroyed and there's two parts to that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the second part will be out next Friday.
Speaker 1:I'm starting to get slurry.
Speaker 2:This Friday yeah.
Speaker 1:This is my slurry phase.
Speaker 2:All right, so today, since we are in the middle of a two-part series, we're going to recap something else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's so much content that she needs to throw at me.
Speaker 2:So I was scrolling on TikTok and I kept seeing people posting their reactions to this documentary called Unknown Caller and through the internet and through TikTok, I already knew the outcome, but I was like I got to watch this, I got to understand and even though I knew the outcome when I watched it, I was still beyond shocked.
Speaker 1:The worst.
Speaker 2:So my plan was I'm like I got to tell Jesse about this and that's what I do on our podcast.
Speaker 1:She destroys me.
Speaker 2:I'm basically telling him like I'm giving him the tea, but you guys are listening. So I decided I was like I got to tell Jesse about this and I want to do it through the podcast. But then I was like I need him to watch this. So I came home Thursdays are my Friday. I came home on a Thursday night and I was grabbing, grabbing a Vista Bay, cause I have a couple on Thursday nights, cause I don't, I don't have a lot of obligations on Friday. I mean I do, but I don't.
Speaker 1:Her weekend starts, then we don't drink during the week and then she gets.
Speaker 2:but I come home and I have a couple, sometimes Not every week, so I was like Jesse, I got off early this particular fucking week.
Speaker 1:she wanted to destroy me when she fucking got off.
Speaker 2:So I said, Jesse, I'm off early. Let's have a couple of Vista Bays.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And let's watch this documentary so we can talk about it. And she did and he was like all right, so here we go. All right, so we watched Unknown Color, which is set in the small town of Bill City, Michigan and high school student, lauren Licari, and her boyfriend, owen McKinney.
Speaker 2:Poor baby, I mean, they're babies, babies, and I'm sure all of you guys have watched this, but this is me and Jesse's take on it, okay, yeah, so they're. I mean, they're babies, babies, and I'm sure all of you guys have watched this, but this is me and jesse's take on it. Okay, yeah, so they're babies and they, and and lauren starts getting disturbing messages about um or from an unknown, unknown number, um saying, you know, basically insinuating at first that Owen is not being faithful to her, and they're like 12 and 13 years old when this shit starts.
Speaker 1:Okay, as if any of that is relevant at their age. Really, and the shit that we started seeing, cause they show the text messages. Three over 300 pages.
Speaker 2:And what did I tell you at the very beginning? I'm like Jesse remember every single message that you see is real.
Speaker 1:Is real Is real.
Speaker 2:That is not fabricated, that's not.
Speaker 1:Hollywood. She's like listen, jesse, I've already watched this, this is real.
Speaker 2:These parts that they're plugging in here, really happened and then later on you literally see a binder. That's about what do you say? What do you say about that?
Speaker 1:thick over 300 pages, three over 300, 360, something. It was, it was insane pages of the amount of text that this unknown caller was sending to a 13 year old, and it goes all the way until she's 15 started like she was getting a few and and then it went away for a while, right, and then all of a sudden, it was like bing, bing, bing, bing. So imagine being a young teenager and you have a cute relationship.
Speaker 2:To Lauren and Owen To Lauren and Owen.
Speaker 1:They had a cute relationship and it was just like okay, Super cute little sports kids, Super school love.
Speaker 2:They're all in this fort small town. They had a caution light, that's it. They had a caution light and one of the flashing light, two bars, two bars and a caution light. Yeah, he was, because at one point in the story it's like they went trick-or-treating together and just he's like where the fuck did they trick-or-treat?
Speaker 1:farm country. Yeah, 20 miles apart you are whatever. At least a mile apart a house. You know where do they trick-or-treat at? I don't understand it, and it was just, it was.
Speaker 2:It was crazy to me I was they did and I was just being funny but I was like, well, maybe the bar set up, yeah, but honestly, maybe trunk-or-treat or something that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, honestly, it was because the small town I mean, we're already a small town, but there are smaller towns around us that do a trunk-or-treat we have a trunk-or-treat yeah, it sucks, but I feel like you know that rural area.
Speaker 1:They were probably going to a bigger town, you know, or something, and we're, we're stuff or they, or like, or they could just set up like many little smaller communities and around the shit that was happening. There was some. There was some houses, you know there was some. There was some things. Obviously, because they were every. Every person in that whole documentary was all into sports. All the children that were going to school, all of them was just into sports. It was like K through 12.
Speaker 2:Yes, Small school and our nearby town, which is called Brantford, reminded me a lot of this city.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, for sure I get it, yeah, so that's probably really the challenge, because their school.
Speaker 2:Well, they have an elementary and then their high school is like 6th through 12th.
Speaker 1:So a little bit smaller than that than Brantford, but still.
Speaker 2:I get it. I mean, I was fuck Tight community all about sports.
Speaker 1:That's. All they do is sports and cheerleading, I know. Is that kind of Charles Mead?
Speaker 2:So yeah, go back and listen to our episode on our hometown cult. It's literally titled Hometown Cult but it's about the Mead Ministries cult here in our town.
Speaker 1:And there might be a documentary about that. We may be part of it, who knows?
Speaker 2:Yeah, We've been invited to be a part of that documentary. It might be a part of that documentary. It's too crazy Manifestation, so anyways. So mostly Lauren is receiving all these. I mean vile text messages, sexual content, violent content, and then Owen is receiving some as well. So basically, this unknown caller is telling Lauren, or unknown number is telling Lauren You're disgusting, you're a skank whore, you're flat chested, you're flat assed, you Owen's cheating on you. And then Owen is getting text messages. We need to. We need to get rid of this bitch. We need to do this.
Speaker 1:We need to, we need to get rid of this bitch, we need to do this, we need to do that. So super creepy and it's a lot, a lot of we behind the text messages.
Speaker 2:I'm like there's more, yeah, so this unknown number is basically, when he reaches out to Owen, he's acting, or this person is acting, like that. They're like together, you know, and they're like together, you know, and they're they're they're planning on doing something to Lauren, but Owen's like, uh, he, you know they're starting to get angry, they're starting to get involved, and now I was going to say well, the kids are starting to respond out of anger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now parents are getting involved. Owen's parents are involved. Lauren's parents are involved. Owen's parents are involved. Lauren's parents are involved. They go to the principal. The principal starts paying more attention to these friend groups. They're looking at their cameras.
Speaker 1:I feel like the school board kind of did to their capabilities, but at the same time they were kind of backing off because they didn't want to keep portraying something they couldn't accomplish. They brought it to everybody's attention. They had some meetings and but but parents they were, they were going and beating the desk of these superintendents in the school board and nobody. Well, they get the sheriff involved. They didn't have results. Yeah, mike main I believe his name was involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they get him involved and he's zeroing in on these certain friend groups and trying to figure out when these kids are getting the messages and they're trying to look for other kids. That's a lot. That's a lot to deal with, because kids are on their phones all the fucking time.
Speaker 1:Honestly, this whole podcast is crazy to me because usually I don't know shit.
Speaker 2:I know, so this time he knows and I got me yeah.
Speaker 1:And I can be involved and I understand, like where you're going is, you know, and building it. This is fucking crazy. You're not allowed to dump this shit on me on a thursday anymore so but you're going to do it anyhow, right, but you're not allowed, but you're going to do it. You're in my thank you so much, because you fucking don't do it, you just want to do it, so yeah, well, your world fucking well, we're, I mean we're a year into the podcast now.
Speaker 2:I mean, like he's in, he's, he's in you know what?
Speaker 1:and at the beginning of all that I I said you know I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get calloused, I'm gonna, you know, ride this saddle until my ass just gets used to it. Yes, sir, you cannot, you cannot, you cannot in podcast about true crime. You cannot get calloused. And we're getting a little bit better and a little bit more skilled on what we're doing and how we're putting out our content. Quality whatever, I'm gonna keep that's my little fart tape forte, whatever fartay fartay, fartay, fartay but I, I I'm gonna do the best as as my ability.
Speaker 1:Whatever we're gonna make, we're gonna have fun doing your whole project over here. But you can't fucking get used to this and the two-parter that you just started Half of that, son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, this one alone.
Speaker 1:There's no real murder or anything.
Speaker 2:I came home and I told Jesse I'm like this documentary. It has no murder, it has no rape, it has no violent crime and it shook me to my core.
Speaker 1:Because of the amount of destruction. So these.
Speaker 2:you have to watch the documentary If you haven't yet. I'm sure you live under a rock, but if you haven't and you don't have Netflix, hit me up. I'll give you my login. Let's watch it.
Speaker 1:Let's discuss it. We're going to have a watch party.
Speaker 2:Okay, so now the principal is involved, the sheriff of the town is involved, but they can't get any answers and the texts are just getting worse and worse and it's taking a toll on Lauren and Owen's very young, very innocent relationship. So they break up.
Speaker 1:They're children, they're children, they break up that's been destroyed now by text messages Destroyed.
Speaker 2:So they think, now that they have broken up, that things are going to get better? No, so now Lauren is receiving trigger warning If you haven't watched the documentary. She's receiving text messages on Twitter. She this unknown number is telling her to kill herself and is just, and I mean, and she plays basketball, she plays sports, and this unknown number is telling her that she sucks at her sports.
Speaker 1:Yeah, her body sucks her everything about her side into, like what she was wearing and how many points she scored that day how many points she was scoring. So, on top of like the nasty fucking sexual things, she was saying that she was doing with her ex-boyfriend.
Speaker 2:You know he's coming over to me, he's doing this with me I mean we're not going to repeat it because it makes me blush. Talk about horrific, it's not blush.
Speaker 1:To me it's disgusting. Children and even even the police officer that was trying to do the research he's like that made me blush. I'm like, how did? It is way more than blush, it is disgusting, disgusting. It makes the one is it duh or d disgusting or disgusting d, but I want to say duh because I'm a fair like. It's like horrifically. You're just morbidly horrified by the things that you see in text messages, the harassment and it's not just two people, it becomes way more than that Right.
Speaker 2:So then they zero in on another high school student named Chloe, who has been identified as a bully.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're trying to find people.
Speaker 2:And she's got nothing to do with it. Okay Now, her and Owen were friends and a lot of people thought that they were more than friends. And Chloe and Lauren? They didn't get along they weren't they?
Speaker 1:just they didn't mesh well. Well, small towns in sports, everybody's in sports.
Speaker 2:All of them were like they're brushing up against each other in the classroom together but chloe was identified as being a bully to other people and that's problematic and her parents were kind of problematic, but you know yeah, and everybody said she was kind of abrasive to begin with, so she was target number one so then they were like okay, well, let's find the quiet, shy, shy kid who was Adriana, and but then, as soon as Adriana starts getting accused, she starts getting messages from the unknown caller or unknown number.
Speaker 1:So third victim, here we go.
Speaker 2:Then Owen. He starts dating another girl in another city and that girl's mom starts getting messages from the unknown caller.
Speaker 1:How the fuck? Ok, you're using, using apps you're using like burner phones.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was an app generator or app number generator, so every single time this unknown number would come through it was a different number caller so it it like to block them. It just becomes a job.
Speaker 1:So and there, was a child, like you're trying to do your thing at school and then being and then you know, you know, here's your math test being you know here's.
Speaker 2:Here's what you need to do in social studies or whatever, english or whatever being being and then these, the parents are trying to take the phone and the kids are fighting them on it because, yeah, they've got their friends. And why would you? You know it?
Speaker 1:it's just, it's so much, and they were even like grouping together, like parents were like let's just take all the kids as far as other kids involved who were actually trying to do, like little baby, investigative work. Yeah, so I feel like there were some people that were kind of teaming up. They were trying to figure this out too. This whole community was destroyed, just destroyed, a whole fucking community about text messages.
Speaker 2:So it's not Chloe, it's not Adriana. So then you know it's time to get the FBI involved. So FBI comes in and he does the work. Like Sheriff Maine, he's done what he could with his small town resources. They're like.
Speaker 1:So this guy's a specialist that just knows like data and DNA're like. So this guy's a specialist that just knows like data and DNA, like all the all the parts where, where it comes into play with like text messages and to to find it down all that stuff.
Speaker 2:And he's finding out an IP address where all these messages are coming from. And you can literally watch on the screen and this goes, and that's when I stopped and I uh, well, I recorded Jesse. Literally watch on the screen and this goes. And that's when I stopped and I uh, well, I recorded jesse's reaction she did, she got me it goes back to kendra lakari, who is lauren's mother.
Speaker 1:Lauren's mother the own child's mother that was being harassed. Her fucking mom did that shit and what.
Speaker 2:And they gaslit us the whole time because lauren's mom is in this fucking documentary and so I defended, I defend, I was like you know, she just looks like okay.
Speaker 1:So they're showing all these people and they're building the whole narrative, right, they're building this whole fucking thing I'll let you go the whole documentary and I'm just like well, she just looks like she's just a farm working mom, you know, because this is all you know it looks like agricultural farm type and I already know rural area. I'm fucking mad and I was like lindsey, she just, and she's like no, she looks like what'd you? What'd you call her? What'd you call her?
Speaker 2:well, the internet world.
Speaker 1:We're calling her quasimodo, yeah, okay is that what the internet world calls here?
Speaker 2:okay, honestly, I don't even want to insult, I wasn't trying.
Speaker 1:I was just like okay, because there's a lot of beautiful people here that like even the kids they had eyelashes and shit done. You could tell.
Speaker 2:And then there's some money and I was like I am really glad that I don't have girls because, yeah, we would be broke, jesse, with having to get them, and I brought it to a light, but it's still, yeah, $100 a fucking week or something in eyelash work Having to get them lash extensions.
Speaker 2:I'm the only female in this house, so I'm the only bougie one here, as you can see, but I do these myself 14, 15, 16-year-olds and they all have like hundreds of dollars a week in cosmetics just because they want to look cute. I mean they're clean cut. You know they take care of themselves it was a really good looking community.
Speaker 1:Everybody looked like they had some money. Maybe they're living out their means, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Actually, they were living out their means because Well, kendra was a fucking liar, not only was she sending horrible, derogatory, vile, diabolical texts to her daughter and her daughter's boyfriend? She has also. So the police are like they've pinpointed her. They come in, they come to the house.
Speaker 1:All of them came from one phone, her.
Speaker 2:Body cam footage. She comes into the house. I'm hydrating. I got water.
Speaker 1:Drink water, drink anything, fuck, we got got it.
Speaker 2:They come into the house body cam footage. They let they basically tell her bitch, we know, we know why. What are you doing? Are you infatuated?
Speaker 1:and she's all like.
Speaker 2:Well, to start with, it wasn't me I don't believe that, because they can't find anybody else that it was linked to but her, and then they bring the daughter in from the pool.
Speaker 1:right, she's just hanging out at the pool, so she comes in, you know, in a towel, just wrapped up. Why wouldn't she arrest?
Speaker 2:them. I was crying. They had the fucking Lawrence right off the ring. I was crying oh my God, I'm out of everything over here.
Speaker 1:I know, hey, keep talking.
Speaker 2:I'm going to, hey, keep talking. I'm gonna go get my fucking noshy nosh over there and um so so lauren comes in, while the police. So here's here's. Here's kendra the mother, the evil fucking mother. Here's lauren. The police are telling lauren what's going on. Hey, your mom has been doing this the whole time, kendra, she's here, she's trying to hug on her. I'm screaming. Don't you fucking touch her, don't you fucking put your. I'm mad, I'm so pissed off.
Speaker 1:I had to bring Jackie O'Daniel.
Speaker 2:Then they call Sean the father. We haven't talked about him yet. Sean is the father. They tell Sean hey, we're sorry to tell you this, but we're here at your house. We found out that your wife is the motherfucker that's been sending your daughter and these other kids these text messages. So he rushes home. Come to find out when he gets home. This bitch has been lying about working for a year period.
Speaker 2:She's been working, being employed From two jobs From two Having a job because this poor man just comes home and gives her his paycheck. She manages the finances.
Speaker 1:we gotta, we gotta, stop that so if you're a police officer, you have full-on search warrants to this caliber of conviction. Do not let the daughter come in there. She has been manipulated to the point.
Speaker 2:I was so mad.
Speaker 1:She's still bad. You can love your mom after she does such a thing to you, but do not let them be part of the whole prosecution process.
Speaker 2:She should have been talked to separately, In my opinion. I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that works. Hey, she's a victim.
Speaker 1:You did this. She's putting you in handcuffs. We're going to bring you downtown and we're going to talk this shit out. Her husband showed up found out all that shit. Not only does he find out that his wife. You don't get the right to do that in a living room where you're trying to talk this shit out and everybody's destroyed right in front of you in this fucking horrific. It's terrible Lindsay.
Speaker 2:Not only does Sean find out that his wife has been textually harassing his daughter but that she's also put them in financial ruin, if you know.
Speaker 1:but if you don't know, you don't fucking know, because this is.
Speaker 2:But that's probably also why all of these people agreed to do this documentary, especially Lauren's family, because they were broke after Kendra put them in financial ruin.
Speaker 1:But how does this cunt get some fucking money from Netflix?
Speaker 2:at the end of this, I know she did she did, so she spends what like a year and a half in prison.
Speaker 1:Well, that's not shit. She should have spent 14 years in prison, because that's how long it's going to take for her to get over.
Speaker 2:This is what we need to rant and write at dawn about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you fisting in the air I got my fucking just for fucking, freaking, fucking. This is what I was doing, yes, and this you were, and it's been June Lucari, and I woke up. Well, no, I didn't wake up. I was awake the whole time, but I was tired as fuck.
Speaker 2:And that woke him up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when he was like what so anyways, you made me feel like Alex the Terrible.
Speaker 2:So we need to ride at dawn? Why this bitch doesn't registry attached to her conviction? Why doesn't she have to register as a there you go?
Speaker 1:because the big p word because she had an infatuation with her daughter's fucking boyfriend and she was kind of and he even said it in the doc dude, he even said it. She don't dude, he even said it she doted on him. She would reach out and be like baby, you're okay and touch women, period. If a woman comes up to you and she's like, hey, how you doing, and she wants to touch just this, that right there there's a infatuation.
Speaker 2:He said that she would cut up his steak. Children don't know that there's children. Children don't know that there's children. I don't cut up their steak. No, now I have Okay In the past.
Speaker 1:Lindsay, if you cut up one of our boys' friends' steak in front of me.
Speaker 2:If one of our kids come over here and you cut up their steak in front of me, what am I going to think? First of all, I would never. Your friend can cut up your steak if you need your steak cut up.
Speaker 1:Are you a baby? Yeah, if my wife or anybody and I don't know if that happened, because the husband, he was kind of oblivious, brought his whole- check home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bless his heart man.
Speaker 1:Jumped it in front of this woman that was manipulating everybody in the family.
Speaker 2:My heart just goes out.
Speaker 1:Sean and Lauren man, y'all are in. I watched the video the other day, just like yesterday. I watched the video and he's playing with his daughter and they're just like he has this genuine love. That is just their connection and you know, I love you and all this stuff. But you could tell that the mother was just forefronting every bit of manipulation.
Speaker 2:And this bitch had the nerve to smile through this documentary Like are you fucking?
Speaker 1:kidding me. Maybe I'm the bad guy, but I'm like what?
Speaker 2:It compares what she did to Okay, drunk driving is not cool, but crimes are not cool, period. But no, ma'amam, you don't get to put anything, no, in the category of what you did. You made torturing your daughter and her friends and her ex-boyfriend your full-time job because your ass wasn't going to work, you weren't making money for your family job was harassing harassing. You were harassing people as your full time job, while you're lying to your family about having a job like wow, wow, you know what I mean the saddest part to me is I still don't think that it has sunk in for Lauren the damage that her own mother has done to her.
Speaker 1:I don't think that it has sunk in for Lauren the damage that her own mother has done to her.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think, cause I mean, honestly, like I said, when I went on, when I went, when I watched it the first time, I already knew the outcome. I already knew who the villain was. It didn't sink in for me. It didn't sink in for me that this woman, that this mother that was a part of this documentary from the beginning, was the one doing this to her own child. What is wrong? How? I can't wrap my head around it.
Speaker 1:It's like you have to disassociate that because you can't believe it.
Speaker 2:But you watched it all unfold and Lauren and Jesse said she's going to grow up and she ain't going to have shit to do with her mother or worse, and we don't want to go into and I don't, I don't, yeah, not trying to manifest anything into the world, I am not.
Speaker 1:We hope there's got to be a release but I mean I hope it's healthy.
Speaker 2:I hope it's healthy but at the same time, like she was talking to her mother while she's I mean, it's hard. My boys have went through the same thing with their biological father before they just broke away. It took them until they were grown, and this girl is still a teenager but how many times do you have to?
Speaker 1:pull over on the side of the road and scream at nature. How many times do you have to go into a field and ball your eyes out and let it loose, or in the shower, or in the shower, or in a pillow, or wherever you got to go to release it?
Speaker 2:in the, in the, in the, in the washing machine as I'm loading up laundry what is that point that's going to bring satisfaction, satisfaction, satisfaction, satisfaction, satisfaction.
Speaker 1:all the cations in the actions, anyhow, what's going to fully reset a human being whenever they're trying to come into adulthood and have had to have seen all of that?
Speaker 2:What we want to say, what Jesse and I want to say is it don't? Matter who the fuck they are to you, if they have hurt you, if they have tried to destroy you is it don't matter who the fuck they are to you. If they have hurt you, if they have tried to destroy you, you don't need them. It doesn't matter if they're your mother, father, brother, sister, cousin, uncle, aunt, grandfather, grandmother. Cut them off in any.
Speaker 2:You don't need that age bracket there's no, coming back from something like that, that woman told her daughter to kill herself. Yeah, multiple times, multiple she pointed out horrible, horrible insecurities of her and and I mean I'm not kidding you, the binder is this thick of text messages text messages that this vile woman sent to her old child.
Speaker 1:Some one-liners, some paragraphs, 50 times a day.
Speaker 2:There's a guy that I follow on TikTok who said what I was thinking. He said you know, after the reveal that it was Kendra Netflix gaslit, you and you were overreacting because it was just downplayed.
Speaker 1:And then gave her a big-ass platform at the fucking end. Sorry, netflix, I think you got that wrong. You should have painted her a little bit more fucking dirty.
Speaker 2:Jesse wrote little notes out and this is the word that he has written and underlined. You can't read it, but it says cunt yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't want to drop it, but I had it in my notes but I didn't want to drop it. But I had it my notes but I didn't want to drop it. I mean, I'll drop that fucking c word if I need to. Can I drop the cunt word?
Speaker 2:she was a fucking cunt, lindsey and but, and me and my besties in our group text this morning we were discussing it. Uh, my bestie erin, her wife, finally watched it. Uh, yeah, the rest of it this morning or last night, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Ongoing viral thing but, oh, yeah, but like so.
Speaker 2:I was like soon as because, Erin, she already knew the outcome as well, but I was like let us know when Morgan finishes it. I want to know her reaction.
Speaker 1:Where's it at it even took Morgan. Did it happen? Where's her reaction?
Speaker 2:Morgan did not accept it at first either, because how do you accept that a mother like it took Morgan a minute to to really grasp? Because you have value in your parents.
Speaker 1:wait, you have some really doing this, like she didn't accept the fact, and that's the same as her. She had value in her fucking mom and because her mom would be like hey, baby, I love you so much. I hope you have a great day. You're so beautiful. See you, to see you later on. And so let's plug dante. Can we do dante now, because that's the point where I wanted to get to the whole time. I'm only on this screen to do Dante on this one.
Speaker 2:We did. We did. What the hell Dante with a Dante? So we did plug this in our previous recap. Um so Dante Elizabeth James does a little skit of this.
Speaker 1:That's the only way we can fucking get over this. I couldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 2:I. This is the only way we can fucking get over this. I couldn't go to sleep. I couldn't go to sleep after this. You couldn't sleep and I was like, alright, I'm going to pull up my boy.
Speaker 1:Don, I'm going to help you out right here. And she did.
Speaker 2:Look his skit up about this documentary. You will laugh so fucking hard. This is horrific, though, but you will laugh so hard at him Because it is he's one of my favorite parts of tiktok man.
Speaker 1:It was literally just like what I said. It was just like hey, baby, I love you so much, hope you have a great day at school. Fuck you, fucking bitch, you fucking motherfucker. It was just like he turns around and it's red and it's the red light, and his face is like this all the it's like all the praises and all the beautifulness, all the fucking control. And what do we call that? What?
Speaker 1:do you call all that. Tell me all the words that you call all that, or what the mom was doing to her daughter. Tell me every single word, because I know people have all these these words and you know technical things okay, the stock, the, the stockholm scene syndrome, the um, just so many different things that just really happened. So everybody labels all these things in different categories.
Speaker 2:It's a type of bullying and things like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But there's so many fucking levels.
Speaker 2:Because you're the only person to hate themselves. Right which is what Lauren ended up doing.
Speaker 1:There's so many levels of that, and we were talking about that in a couple of pods In our last pod too. There's so many levels of that, and we were talking about that in a couple pods in our last pod too. There's so many levels of that, you know, with you and your horrific relationship and having to, you know, be a single mother, and then I stepped in and we did our thing. You know, you know all the stuff. There's levels of all of that and nobody can pinpoint anything to a full diagnosis of whatever you want to label things. No, you know, you can't. If you think about it, in every situation you can't. And that's where she's at right now with her mom. Her mom did her time, did her? You know, she did the crime, did the time. I don't think she was charged.
Speaker 2:And wanted to write it off as she was trying to save her daughter for going what she went through. Yeah, fuck you, Kendra.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know my daughter's not going to commit suicide, so I'm just going to tell her to fucking kill herself For 11 months.
Speaker 2:No, it was 22. 22 months altogether.
Speaker 1:But the kill herself was like.
Speaker 2:there was like a big After she broke up with Owen we won and sending her daughter pictures of her and Owen with her like egg stout and like puke emojis and shit over it Like what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what Little memes and bullshit, just constantly, constantly. And this little girl.
Speaker 2:Torture.
Speaker 1:She was still doing sports, she still had a great support system at home. Her dad.
Speaker 2:Her dad was amazing. No, the mom too. She didn't know it, but her mom is canceled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, she would get home and have the greatest support from her mom. So good, yeah, back to Dante, back to the Heliante. I love you so much. I hope your game's going to be so amazing. Don't worry about those. The points that you scored in your basketball game, you know, and all that, and literally would turn around in seconds and then text her Fuck you, you flat fucking ass bitch Would you flat test, flat ass I wish you would kill yourself.
Speaker 1:You only scored so much in a game Like are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:Never. How do you even think those thoughts in your head to tell your little baby child that you birthed?
Speaker 1:I'm preoccupying myself by wrapping up this because this is so horrific.
Speaker 2:So fucking. But we're going to keep our recap short and we are 33 minutes in right now.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I mean, we could go on for days about it, watch the doc, follow us, though, because we have so much shit, so much shit, and look at her, and look at her, and look at her. She's so fucking amazing. How am I Look at the contrast over here? Wait a minute. And you say you're Caucasian Fuck you.
Speaker 2:You're not so make sure that you have listened to part one of David Parker Ray Part two will be out Friday and also watch this documentary. If you want to be mad, if you want to release some anger, watch this documentary, because it'll help you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and make sure you have plenty of air that you can punch If you think you're a bad mom, watch this documentary.
Speaker 2:I bet you you're doing 99% better than this bitch. Yeah, period, period you make me feel like I was the best mother in the entire world.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I judge myself really hard.
Speaker 1:We judge ourselves, but that's how we keep striving to be better, striving to be better.
Speaker 2:You know, we will never be Kendra Licari.
Speaker 1:No, and we will see you guys Friday. Well, friday.
Speaker 2:We will see you on video next week's thing. We'll see you around Sure. To recap, david Parker Ray.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not excited.
Speaker 2:No, don't say excited. No. No, I'm fucking horrified. Already he's horrified, but I got to pee. We got to wrap this up, okay.
