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EPISODE 49: David Parker Ray's toy box part 2
The twisted saga of David Parker Ray, known as the Toy Box Killer, represents one of the most disturbing chapters in American true crime history. From the shores of Elephant Butte Lake in New Mexico, Ray orchestrated a reign of terror that spanned decades, leaving an unknowable number of victims in his wake.
Perhaps most disturbing was Ray's methodical approach. He recorded an "orientation" tape for victims, detailing the horrors they would endure. He drugged women so thoroughly they would later have no memory of their ordeal—though nightmares and flashbacks would haunt them for years, as happened with Kelly Van Cleave, who only discovered she had been a victim when investigators identified her tattoo in Ray's videos.
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Hey, Jesse.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:Lindsay, are we going to do that?
Speaker 2:What are we doing?
Speaker 1:I'm going to do a low monotone.
Speaker 2:This is Drink About Something and we have horrific stories by Lindsay and I just wanted to share them with you. Actually, I don't share shit, lindsay shares it, and I have to endure Endure, endure, Endure.
Speaker 3:But, sir.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:endure or endure.
Speaker 1:It's endure, andore, andore. Yeah, it's andore.
Speaker 2:And while I'm traveling through the galaxy of all of her stories, she destroys me and this is what we do, and we hope that this is a nice calm, subtle, subtle or subtle, it's subtle.
Speaker 1:Oh it is subtle, but I've heard people say subtle like the space shuttle.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, I hope this is a nice and calm, or, if you're British, it's subtle, subtle. Wow, lindsay, that was very loud. We don't get loud on this podcast. We're nice. What are you drinking over there, lindsey? Happy birthday, lindsey weekend. Holy shit, we're here. Yeah, happy friday, everybody. And this is not very subtle, so go away if you don't like not very mind the loudness and the wildness not very demure and the alcoholisms and the storyisms. We drink responsibly. Yes, what are you drinking over there?
Speaker 1:So Vista Bay at our local Aldi had an 8% version of their Vista Bay hard seltzer and it's called Vista Bay hard seltzer rush 8%, two carbs, gluten-free, all natural flavor and it is blackberry is that any side effects.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and name all those off and you may die. Tip the tongue to tip the lips. Yes, all those I'm just drinking like a pre-mixed thing from Captain Morgan. It's a Long Island iced tea. Okay, in my nice little no quarters, no mercy, yukon. Rattle cup, rattle cup, rattle cup and rattle cup, that's what I'm drinking.
Speaker 1:Well, let's go ahead and uh, cue that intro yes, we're gonna get into the intro.
Speaker 2:Happy friday everybody. We hope you guys have a great weekend and, uh, we're gonna kick this thing off very well yes, I don't know where we're going with this oh, I think that's too loud. Fuck that, lindsey. We're partying. Happy friday, happy. Friday, y'all can't see me dancing, but these shoulders though the rest of me cannot dance, but my shoulders can dance. So the whole theme behind that that I just came up with right then and right there, it's like those soft music radio shows, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, I thought of that one guy on Parks and Rec when Leslie comes in. Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:That was the sounds of a saxophone that is being muted by a tuba and a clarinet in the toilet.
Speaker 2:Yes, all in the toilet, the toilet.
Speaker 1:The toilet. The toilet Sometimes.
Speaker 2:There's shit.
Speaker 1:There's shit on the outside of the toilet.
Speaker 2:Yes, there is. Sometimes there is shit on the outside of the urnus.
Speaker 1:That is a Letterkenny reference.
Speaker 2:Please go watch.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, you can binge the whole show in two days.
Speaker 2:They're very short episodes Very funny, letterkenny on Hulu and he walks in he's like fucking Alexander, so we don't even have to go into the whole thing. We just say fucking Alexander. And we already know the rest of the story. Yeah yeah, paul Harvey pops up right there as soon as we say fucking Alexander.
Speaker 1:See speaking of Alexander Hamilton is on his 10th year anniversary and there's a whole Hamilton challenge on TikTok, that Iok that I am loving so much. But now the song that at broadway too.
Speaker 2:While we're up there just saying I know hey, lindsey, it's time to pull your drinks out.
Speaker 1:It's time to pull my drinks out the freezer, so I'm gonna let jesse talk for a second so here's the thing.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go ahead and say, while lindsey knocks over all the shit here, uh, we're gonna be very unorganized today because it's her birthday weekend. What we do here is Lindsay tells a story that I know nothing about and we share a few drinks, we share commentary jokes, all the coolness, right. She destroys me. I did not know there was this much shit out in the world. And I knew there was shit out in the world. But, jesus Christ, there is a lot of shit out in the world. There is and there's a lot of shit that goes on in the world like during, you know, day to day. But fuck, lindsay. But to bring all that up and to live in those moments, and then I try to analyze it and, of course, I'm like don't do this, this isn't how you need to raise your kids, this isn't how you need to. This is all my thoughts of just yeah, these are just our thoughts belligerent thoughts actually.
Speaker 1:I mean, or at least intoxication, and also, also we're, we're, we're those parents that have, or we're trying to give advice from lessons that we've learned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and none of our having fun. And we're talking and we play music at the end. That's my job. That's all in my job. That's all my job. That's all my job.
Speaker 1:And we're going to pop up in this Celsius because we need a little energy, grandbabies, cause we're old and I'm gonna let Lindsay say what she felt old about.
Speaker 2:first, because she likes to dump that on me too Every week. Ah, Gotti 43.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on the 14th to be exact, september 14th is my birthday. Anybody want to hit me up? Send some cash. I love you, I'm just kidding, I don't care, I don't need it.
Speaker 3:We don't need it.
Speaker 1:But if you want to, you know I will not not accept it, but the Hamilton song.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at you like.
Speaker 1:The Hamilton song.
Speaker 2:I mean, do you?
Speaker 1:Alexander, come back to sleep.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have an early meeting out of town. It's still dark outside. I know I just need to write something down. Can we do that challenge? You got to look at it. I know you probably.
Speaker 2:it's in my See like Hamilton's, something that I've watched twice, but I think I need to watch it like five times before I start, really like, because it's all over the place. There's just so much coolness everywhere. Five times before I start, really like, cause it's all over the place. There's just so much cool it took you?
Speaker 1:it took you probably like what? Three times to really fall in love with Chicago, Cause I make you, I made you watch it? Now he's just like let's watch Chicago.
Speaker 2:And I'm singing songs in the shower and I'm doing like okay. So, speaking of Chicago, this chick called me today and is Roxanne, a Roxy. No, and I was like wait a minute girl.
Speaker 1:And this is just yesterday.
Speaker 3:But, anyhow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she called me looking for one of the coworkers or whatever at my work. That didn't even associate. So of course I went off into that. I was like, well, before I get your phone number to tell him to call you, we're going to go off of this. And she started laughing and she had seen chicago course roxy heart I'm just a dork in a parts counter.
Speaker 2:Why are you calling me to tell people to call you? And I don't understand all this stuff. But anyhow, I had to get off into that. We sung like a little little roxy song together, stranger. But I got her phone number and found the dude and hey, uh, this chick wants you to call her for some reason. I don't know what's fucking I he's like he kind of gave me that look.
Speaker 1:For context, Jesse has to make and receive a lot of phone calls at his job. He's just not randomly talking to.
Speaker 2:No, it's what I do.
Speaker 1:It's what he does, it's his job.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm half of the secretary there. Like, if they don't get them up front, guess who it comes to?
Speaker 1:Yeah, up front. Guess who it comes to? Yeah, he's the parts guy. Slash secretary, slash mechanic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know how to work a switchboard.
Speaker 1:You don't got so many skills over here.
Speaker 2:I know, I know.
Speaker 1:Skills. So, yes me, what made me feel old was turning 43, but you know what? So last night at dinner I went to my favorite Mexican restaurant and my son, when they brought out the sombrero and the little teeny tiny margarita with a candle on it was so cute and saying happy birthday to me, he videoed me and I watched it and I was like you know what? I look pretty good for 43.
Speaker 1:So you'd pass for 33 I'm uh, you know, most of the time I'm like ew, don't take pictures of me, I'm disgusting. But you know what? I was not displeased with that. I was in a good mental space.
Speaker 2:You're doing it and doing it, and doing it well.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:I represent Queens. I was raised out of Lake City.
Speaker 1:You represent Queens, but you were raised in Lake City. Yes, the one borough of Lake City.
Speaker 2:It's part of Queens. You just didn't know it.
Speaker 1:Way down here in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's another borough 36 chambers of.
Speaker 2:Queens and Wu-Tang Clinic. Nothing to fuck with. I'm just telling you that right now. What made me feel old?
Speaker 1:Yes, first of all, you're not going to. Let me just say anything today.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not Okay. It's your birthday so you don't have to. Okay, you want to tell the story? Yes, I'll tell the story. Oh God my dyslexic ass.
Speaker 1:We should do one episode like that, where you have to read the script that I wrote.
Speaker 2:All the editing and all the research that I did.
Speaker 3:that you have no idea about.
Speaker 1:Jesse has to read it I don't know what I'm going to do. I, no, I wouldn't let you.
Speaker 3:Because you would be like what.
Speaker 1:In the middle of the story you're telling yeah, I'm going to lock down.
Speaker 2:I have to read these words right now and you're just like I'm a stab killer, murder, rape, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I'm all like, uh-uh, I'm locking down, I'm not saying any more.
Speaker 1:I'm done. Speaking of that. This is a fun murder podcast, but it is PG-13 and up.
Speaker 2:This one isn't.
Speaker 1:This one. I would suggest not letting anybody under 18 here. Yeah, there is a lot of triggers, a lot of horrific things. David Parker Ray was absolutely horrible.
Speaker 2:And she showed me a picture yesterday of him.
Speaker 1:You know, I have to.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, so the first time no, it was probably the second time I'd heard about this case. The second time I was listening to Morbid and they called him a leather shoe and that is like the most perfect explanation of what dude looks like.
Speaker 2:He looks like OK, he looks like an old saddle with a Buick for a mustache. That's what he looks like. He looks like okay, he looks like an old saddle with a buick for a mustache.
Speaker 1:That's what he looks like yeah, the dude had some game we about to talk about it okay fuck gamey and okay okay elephant.
Speaker 2:Am I allowed to say what I felt old?
Speaker 1:I wrote something down there oh yeah, what made you feel old? I'm so sorry I did.
Speaker 2:I wrote something down there. You want me to say something about me feeling old this week or so? One big thing, one big thing. I have been keeping the same chapstick in my car since I got my first car what? Yeah, and it finally ran out. Yeah, this week. I don't think that that's safe. I don't know, don't think that that's safe. I don't know, chapstick don't go bad, let's look, let's look.
Speaker 1:Hey, google, okay, does Chapstick have an expiration date? Searching.
Speaker 3:Yes, Chapstick can expire. While some products may not have an expiration date printed, it's generally recommended to use them within one year.
Speaker 2:After One year, I'm supposed to use Chapstick. Within one year, I'm supposed to use chapstick within one year. So 26 year old chapstick here In my car Finally ran out. That made me feel old.
Speaker 1:But you know, I have 5 year old chapsticks that I gave the grandbabies to play with.
Speaker 2:I don't think it goes bad. I mean, what's going to go bad? It's like wax and something I don't know.
Speaker 1:So remember when we went to our first Spookala. And we got a bunch of um, little little little things when we first went around, like they were handing out cards with a chapstick yeah, we were just trying to go to all of these so I had like, between the last three that we've been to, I had a little collection of those, so I put them all in the little girls bag gave them to the babies, yeah and along with some other glossies and lip oils, stuff like that, I made them their own little makeup bag.
Speaker 1:So cute, yeah, and they know where to put it. And then so cute, they were fighting over it today. I had to chill that out. One came out here screaming and crying.
Speaker 2:I was like no, we're not going to do that. She came to me, she calls me Papaw and I don't think it's going to hurt you. Like you can have 26-year-old chapstick, Does anybody have anything that old?
Speaker 1:Let us know your lips ain't falled off. No, fell off. They ain't falled off. They probably have.
Speaker 2:They've regrown them by now. So that's what made me feel old. And then the day-to-day grind. I wrote down the day-to-day grind because I start noticing like how you just do everything. It just goes by so fast and you're just like damn dude, there's another year, there's another year there's another year I still remember.
Speaker 1:We can say that every week.
Speaker 2:Honestly, we can say that every.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm just saying I still remember my last birthday, like I just got ready for it a week ago. Yeah yeah and we literally went to the same place but we might do that every year.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, that's my favorite little spot.
Speaker 1:We go to that restaurant for several of our family's birthdays.
Speaker 2:Worth it One Love Cafe. And then we also went to El Patro's last night Went to El Patro's for dinner.
Speaker 1:One Love Cafe today and my son El Patro's Lake.
Speaker 2:City One Love Gainesville and Silas performed. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, Gainesville and Silas performed, yes, yes. He went up and asked Okay, so one love has live entertainment, like acoustic ish entertainment on on brunch for Saturdays and Sundays. And he went up and he asked if he could play a song for me for my birthday. And they let him. And it was so cute, it was so amazing.
Speaker 2:It was so beautiful.
Speaker 1:I have it. I'm going to make a TikTok His bravery and confidence. He was red for like five minutes after that, but he did it.
Speaker 2:He did the damn thing and the crowd loved it. So what are we drinking about over here, Lindsay? Because I want to take a sip out of my Long Island over here we're drinking to part two of David Parker Ray. That's right. The Toy Box Killer that's right. I have to sit through another one and I told her I wouldn't, but I will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he wants to leave on this one. This one's going to be worse than part one. I love you.
Speaker 2:Test your love, test, test, test your love. That's how I sound check.
Speaker 1:Test your love, test, test, test your love, yes. So I'm going to take a sip on that one and we're going to get this thing fired off. Let's get into it. Last week we gave you some background on david parker ray and a mysterious disappearance and death tied to him and now his daughter, jesse ray. She had alerted the fbi about some possible kidnapping and human trafficking that david had done and he was investigated, but that investigation was dropped. David was very much into the S&M and BDSM scene and he has now built an entire torture chamber called the Toy Box. Now, once again, this is not the S&M and BDSM that is consensual.
Speaker 2:This is non-consensual, criminal act, criminal shit broken down saddle with a buick for a lip floss. Whatever lip lip glow, whatever. This fucking mustache looked like a big old. Oh, it's caterpillar it did nasty.
Speaker 1:It wasn't as cool as wofford brimley's I was fixing to say that yes so jesse, jesse ray.
Speaker 1:She has now moved in with her father and will become an accomplice in his future crimes, which is crazy to me. She was going to turn him in and then she came back around and got involved in the crimes themselves. The number of victims and accomplices total that he had is not known, but we are going to talk about the ones that were reported. Jesse had become quite the figure at the local bar scene. She frequented Blue Water Saloon and Raymond's Lounge the most. She rode a motorcycle. She liked to shoot pool and play guitar. She was a little performer. She had quite a large group of friends. There was one friend named Kelly Van Cleave.
Speaker 1:Kelly had lived in TRC and was a newlywed to a younger military man named Patrick Murphy. Kelly and Patrick lived with Patrick's mom and she really didn't like Kelly, and Kelly and Patrick fought a lot over that issue and over the fact that Kelly had personal body issues that made intercourse very painful. So they fought about that a lot as well. Patrick didn't really like the bar scene in the area and knew that some of Kelly's friends did drugs and he didn't like that either. I mean, he's, you know, military. There was another woman named Cassandra Witt, that made it her job to try and break Patrick and Kelly up, Like she wanted to be with Patrick. So one evening Kelly and Patrick had had an argument and Kelly went out with Jesse Ray and after they have like I think Kelly maybe had like two drinks she started to not feel good. She started to feel a little bit. She felt buzzed but it was a little different than buzzed and Jesse Ray was like well, I'll take you home. But we got to stop by my father's house first.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Lindsay, I've been quiet, go ahead.
Speaker 1:She blacked out. Kelly blacked out. Two days later. She was in David's truck and he was taking her home to Patrick and, like he pulled, pulled up, told Patrick that he had found Kelly wandering incoherently on the beach. Now Kelly, she had zero memory of what had happened in the prior two days. The last thing that she remembered period was being at the Blue Water Saloon. That was it. She doesn't remember getting on the hog with Jesse. She don't remember getting on the hog with Jesse. She don't remember any of that.
Speaker 2:Patrick was so pissed and completely convinced that she had cheated on him and had done drugs and he divorced her.
Speaker 1:Well, fuck yeah. Kelly moved to Colorado and would have nightmares every single day about being chained up and tortured for years to come and would not understand why.
Speaker 2:And we'll circle back to her. And that's why I said holy shit, because I Two days. She has no memory, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll circle back to Kelly all right. For fuck's sake. Now, this was in 1996, by the way. So now enter. Dennis, you didn't say pick up sticks. Oh God, that's your job, because that's your thing.
Speaker 2:Oh well, I'll say it.
Speaker 1:This was 1996. But it's supposed to be 66. When? You say anything with six yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, because if you're 555, you know the thing. Yeah, Go ahead, 666.
Speaker 1:So yeah, because if you're 5'5", 5', you know the thing, Go ahead 6'6". So enter Dennis Roy Yancey to the scene. Okay, this was a guy who was a local who went by Roy or Toy Boy Roy in the party scene. Of course, that was his nickname. Now, Roy had been a piece of work since his youth. When he was younger or when he was a teenager, he and his friends made a pretend satanic cult and spread rumors that they were going to kidnap and sacrifice children on Halloween. Halloween got canceled because of this little fucker.
Speaker 2:You fucking canceled our favorite. You canceled Halloween. You fucking canceled our favorite fucking Straight to jail, right to jail, like right, right to jail and that really lit it up, because I was like the five, five, five thing and you were like the boom, the boom, the boom, the boom, satanic panic, check all that shit out. That well, that was right around the time, okay so.
Speaker 1:So, roy, he would have been in his teens in the early 80s.
Speaker 2:So there you go, yeah yeah, and I just I mean it got worse in the 90s, but I believe in God, but I'm not scared of Him. Right Does that make sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what. But that would definitely make you not a Christian, because they want you to be scared horribly.
Speaker 2:Oh well, fuck.
Speaker 1:Scared of everything, am I going?
Speaker 2:to make it Fuck. I don't want to be scared of the God I believe in.
Speaker 1:Well, when Roy gets older, there was talk that he was bisexual and a roommate of his actually turned up dead and this would be ruled as a suicide because of homophobic cops. They just didn't want to be associated with anything. Gay, isn't that wild? Gay Isn't that wild? And that was in cases that I have scheduled in the future. That will be a lot More fear, yeah Right.
Speaker 2:Back around to what I said.
Speaker 3:Hashi Tashi yeah.
Speaker 1:Roy Yancey would go on to become friends with Jesse Ray and David Ray Parker, and in 1997, he was dating a woman named sylvia marie parker, who just went by marie. And no, she was not related to david parker. Yeah, okay, marie had had an awful childhood and a pretty bad adulthood as well. She had had a couple of kids that she did not take very good care of. The kids stayed with friends or family while she partied to suppress her deep depression. She found herself homeless at one point and David offered to let her stay in a tent at his lakeside campsite. I think that was a perk for him being a park ranger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause he was, he had his own little spot. So people and things, bad decisions and things.
Speaker 1:And y'all got to look up Elephant. I did post about it in our and I'll put another one for this part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, check out the Butte, it's huge. Yeah, the Butte.
Speaker 1:Huge yeah, and really nice looking. But we'll go on to talk about the-.
Speaker 2:Which we love the Southwest. Yeah, yeah, I've seen pictures of the Butte before.
Speaker 1:But when I go?
Speaker 1:on into it I don't know if I ever want to go there, okay, so anyway, she's homeless, she's living in a tent and on Fourth of July weekend, jesse, ray and Roy came to join Marie at her tent and they have a huge party, like other people came as well. Came to join Marie at her tent and they have a huge party, like other people came as well. Later on, david shows up and he flips the fuck out because this campsite was in his name and they had made quite a mess. You know, party, they don't give a fuck. Probably bottles.
Speaker 2:So like later on that day.
Speaker 1:Because there was not only drinking involved.
Speaker 2:There was drugs too. Dr Dre came through with a gang of Tang and Ray.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm interrupting you, I'm letting you go, sorry.
Speaker 1:So they clean up, the rest of the friends leave Jesse, roy and Marie. They clean up and then Jesse and Roy left because Jesse wanted to go home and make sure her dad wasn't pissed off at her. And then Marie was left alone for a while. You know, pissed off at her and then Marie was left alone for a while. Marie got very depressed after coming down off of the party drugs. It was said that she used meth and cocaine. That's quite a come down.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I cannot. I literally cannot relate as myself, which I've done neither, but I've seen what it can do to other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've seen people jacked up. We're like dude. No, this ain't really cool. It's not cool to get to this level. You should be happy with just a little bit of here and there stuff. Not nothing crazy, that's just crazy yeah, oh wow, I can't bite off that much. I can't bite off that much I can't.
Speaker 1:No. She called and left her mom a few suicidal messages and then decided to go to Blue Water Saloon and see if she could get more drugs. And she was met there by Jesse Ray. Jesse said come with us, meaning her and Roy, and they had a drug deal arranged. Now they drove for a while and then pulled over. Jesse then pulled a gun on Marie and handcuffed her. Marie was now screaming and Jesse said shut up or I will kill you. Well, Roy, he would keep Marie calm in the back of the truck. As they drove to David's house, he and Jesse took Marie into the toy box.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Now Roy. I don't believe this. But Roy says that he did not participate in the torture. I'm sorry, I don't believe it, Cause this went on for three days. Supposedly Roy was just in, Okay, so David's got his residence and then he's got the toy box. Roy said that him and his father just hung out in the mobile home while David and Jesse torture Marie for three straight fucking days.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe he thought it was a rite of passage for his daughter to be participating. You get this one. You can do all this when you should.
Speaker 1:Well, there's already been some, but those victims were not. We'll talk about that more later but there's already been people involved. These are ones that are reported, the ones that I'm talking about now. Roy is saying that him and his father stayed in David Parker Ray's house while David Parker Ray and Jesse Ray tortured Marie in the toy box for three fucking days without any involvement.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure.
Speaker 1:So then David and Jesse said they they were done with Marie and looked at Roy and said you know what to do? Then, while Jesse held a gun to Roy's head and Ray filmed it, roy, strangled Marie to death.
Speaker 2:So, ladies and gentlemen, and people that are listening to this, human beings over the age of I don't feel like any age needs to even listen to any of this, but adulthood type people, human beings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Go back and check out the first one so she can really tell you on that one, like okay, she's going to say more Holy shit, this fucking trailer had so many torture devices, sexual torture devices.
Speaker 1:I will be posting a picture of the inside of it next week.
Speaker 2:I'm snapping into this trailer right now, in this moment, and all the stuff that's going on right now and she's just. This is what's really going on in this trailer. What do they call it? Box, holy fuck dude. Oh, and it's a thing. And this guy was like a master technitional mechanical skillful that's the inside of the lindsey, I don't want to see it yet.
Speaker 2:I don't want to. You're holding it in front of my face. Get it on my face, lindsey. Get it on my face. I don't want to. You're holding it in front of my face. Get it on my face, Get it on my face. I don't want to see it yet. I don't. I don't. I'm just imagining things that do things, and phalluses and and and orifices, and parts and pieces.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the book that I have listened to for this research is called cries in the desert, um, by the same author. Holy shit, give me just a second. Let me look up the author, because he also wrote the book about Chris Watts. So there's a thing that you're dropping on me here.
Speaker 2:I want it One, two Lindsay's coming for you. That's what I feel like, john.
Speaker 1:Glatt. John Glatt is the author. He also wrote the book the Perfect Father about Chris Watts. Yeah, is the author. He also wrote the book the Perfect Father about Chris Watts. So he's got really good books on true crime. And I am skimming the surface of how horrible this guy was. If you feel you want to go deeper into it, listen to that book, cries in the Desert by John Glatt. But we're going to continue, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because some people do want to go deep into that.
Speaker 1:Well, I had to listen to it to see what I wanted to cut out, you know, because this guy was fucking sick.
Speaker 2:You have so much to go. I mean, I'm looking at your notes over there. I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 3:Lindsay, I don't know Lindsay, I don't know man Fuck.
Speaker 1:Fuck, all right, okay. They wrapped Marie in a blanket and put her in the back of David's truck and drove in silence to Monticello Canyon. They rolled Marie's body down the side of a ravine and buried her there. After that, jesse and Roy went to Galveston and hid out in the homeless community by the beach for a year before returning to Elephant Butte. Marie would become a missing person whose case went cold for some time, and this was in 1997. So a year later, jesse and Roy come back and it wasn't long before they got right back into the bar and party scene. Jesse moved back in with her dad and Roy rented a trailer or something like that Trailer apartment, I can't remember exactly which one. Then Roy and Jesse get into a three-way relationship with a new-to-town ex-con on the run, named and this is no shit, this is for real, okay, oh, come on. Named Cindy Hendy. What? Okay, cindy Hendy?
Speaker 2:All right, just letting you know, all right.
Speaker 1:Cindy Hendy was a good-time bisexual who had had a lot of run-ins with the law and a lot of abusive ex-lovers and had pretty much been abused by everyone in her life and that makes me really sad. That part I get it.
Speaker 2:Bad decisions, bad situations, bad upbringing there's a lot of things that happen in life and it sucks for a lot of people.
Speaker 1:It sounds like this town was full of people who just had a hard time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean every town. You can pinpoint a lot of that, that's true, I guess just this group, just like times and eras and ages and spots on Earth period. I mean, people have shitty deals but some people come out of it. It just seems like to me like, okay, hear about.
Speaker 1:You know a serial killer who killed on his own.
Speaker 2:He had the bad past, but you don't really hear about the parents this whole herd of people around them, whoever's around, that have had but there's a lot of people in the story.
Speaker 1:There's even more characters that I don't mention because I would be here for forever. Right that, if you like. I said, if you want to know more about it, corri's in the Desert by John Glatt. So Cindy had children who had spent most of their time in the foster system because she was just pretty much a mess. Her nickname was Six Pack Cindy because it was said that she would do pretty much anything for someone if they brought her a six pack. So wait a minute, eileen Wuornos did the same thing for a pack of cigarettes do pretty much anything for someone if they brought her a six-pack.
Speaker 2:So wait a minute. Eileen warnos did the same thing for a pack of cigarettes oh yeah, just complete.
Speaker 1:Destroyed human beings that would just be down for anything, okay, so there's a whole time and a come up, you know, chapter in the book that's dedicated to cindy's past and it's fucking terrible, so a lot of deeper dives.
Speaker 2:We could talk about this for years, yeah, honestly because, there's so many parts to this it's it's. There's more parts than the toy box in this son of a bitch yeah wow she chain smoked and she enjoyed crank and cocaine.
Speaker 1:Like I said, she was in a throuple situation with Jesse and Roy but she had her sights set on David Parker Ray For Elephant Butte standards at that time. David was a catch. He had a good state job. He was mechanically inclined, he had a double wide a boat, some jet skis Stop Some jet skis and a campsite on the lake.
Speaker 2:His skin was like leather.
Speaker 1:And this lake, like I said earlier, it's huge. It was like 30 or it is, it's not, was it's still there. 36,000 acres of water.
Speaker 2:Oh, a lot of spot to hide some shit. Huh, lindsey, you're already fucking, am I?
Speaker 3:right?
Speaker 2:I don't know if I'm right, but I was just wondering if something was going to come out later on, where there was like well, let me finish this, oh well, just okay. Okay, let me get back to my plant, because this is a lot of shit, okay go ahead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so david would have what he would call ladies day on his boat, where, of course, only ladies were allowed, and there was one chick named peggy. I thought this was weird, that. Okay, so remember, his sister's name was peggy, so this peggy had left over here, got his goddamn boat.
Speaker 2:He's running, he is running the game. Dude, old leather, face over here you have hey, y'all, y'all ladies, y'all want to come over to my house?
Speaker 1:we're gonna go on stop, because it's disgusting okay, hang on on my trailer all right, let me talk about peggy okay, be the queen of my trailer.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry so.
Speaker 1:So this is Peggy not his sister Peggy, but another Peggy in his life that had lived with David Ray Parker and looked at him like a father. She called him dad. Okay, she said that one day they were out on the boat, and he starts describing the perfect way to get rid of a body in the lake without it resurfacing he had to let some of it out, didn't he?
Speaker 2:he had to. Oh yeah, they all do that.
Speaker 1:They all do that he said that you had to cut open the chest cavity, fill it with rocks and wrap the body in chicken wire before dumping it. And, like I said, why he would choose to talk about this With people that did not meet a fate Is a mystery to me. But like you said, and that's like through history, serial killers have found a way To talk to somebody.
Speaker 2:That's how they let it out About their shit at some point and they're just waiting for somebody to be like yeah, really.
Speaker 1:Well, that is a good idea. What's crazy to me? Okay, I have never once, not not one time, had a friend or somebody that I looked up to, ever describe to me how to get rid of a body voice that they would like to kill somebody. Take somebody, and there's people in this story and others that are just like nah, they're just playing. No, people don't play like that.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like I've ever been in that conversation. And I feel lucky that I have not more red flares than red flags would be going up, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:You make me choke, don't choke it.
Speaker 2:Let me get some of that, because I'm geeking right now and I'm kind of goofballing but I shouldn't be, because you got me saddled like his face over here. I'm calloused like his mustache.
Speaker 1:All right, let's keep going all right so back to Cindy Hendy. So her and this other woman were competing for David's affection. Like I said, if you listen you gotta look up this guy's picture and then picture women competing for their affection.
Speaker 2:So Cindy Hendy had a little extra something to Lindy.
Speaker 1:And Cindy was a decent looking chick and she was like 20 years younger than him and they're looking up to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Cindy, she ended up being the winner, winner, winner, chicken dinner of David Parker Ray. So she moved in with David and became quite the little housewife she would clean, she would watch soap operas and then, when David would get home, she would make him amazing dinners. Then he started to train her not groom her, but train her in the art of kidnapping and torturing women. When David thought that Cindy was ready, they set their sights on Angelica Montano. Angelica had been a sex worker in the area who was friends with David and Cindy. Now it's said that Angelica had participated in some sexual activity with the couple in the past, and when I say past, david and Cindy have only been together a few months before this happens. Okay, but there was no toy box, or if it was, it was for drug money, but there was no toy box encounter in that particular time.
Speaker 2:It was said that she was subjected to cattle prodding, things like that shit in the trailer, at home, at home shit in the, in the home yeah, she didn't go in the box, she was just in the home light fun for him. Yes, just some little. There was still things in the trailer. Just a nice little play date, right?
Speaker 1:Fuck. Now, february 1999, angelica had been talking with Cindy on the phone about how she couldn't afford to make her boyfriend a cake for his birthday, and Cindy was like girl, I got you, I got some cake mix. Meet me at the courthouse in T or C tomorrow. Now they were. I don't know what it was, the book did not elaborate on this and I couldn't find it. They were literally going to a court hearing for something that they were already involved in. But I told you that Cindy was an ex-con. She came to TRC on the run, literally.
Speaker 2:So anyway, oh, literally so anyway, oh okay.
Speaker 1:So Angelica goes to the courthouse and sees David and Cindy and they tell her to meet them around the corner. Cindy was then like girl, I totally forgot to bring that cake mix. Take a ride with us back to the house and I'll give it to you and then we'll take you home. So when they get to David's house, they go inside. David says make yourself comfortable. And then he goes back outside. He comes back in with a knife and puts it to Angelica's throat and told her you are being abducted against your will. And this poor woman didn't even know what abducted meant what.
Speaker 2:Yes, but you know okay, According to what you said, his recording said he likes to let them completely know all of his intentions. That's part of his thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so. I did Okay. So I had heard that it was because I read some excerpts from it, from the transcripts. I have heard that it went on for 30 minutes. I've heard that it went on for longer than that, but I think the entire audio recording was actually five minutes that they had to listen to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you just, oh, Lindsay, you just got these, okay, you got these fucking things, your stories okay, you got these fucking things.
Speaker 1:Uh, your stories. So david then punched her in the mouth and cindy held a gun to her head and forced a pill down her throat. Angelica says that they kept her chained up while david went to work and cindy would just watch her soap operas.
Speaker 2:So she's chained up in the actual home right probably on the country floral fucking living room suit that everybody was like there was a little bed in the living room oh, I will put a picture of that picture in the living room suit that everybody had with the wood no, he wasn't that fancy.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was fancy we all had that same fucking.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:think okay, because we all lived in trailers like most of us yeah, we grew up in trailers and it came I think that was like included in the trailer, that furniture. Because when I moved out on my own when I turned 18, I rented a mobile home that was from the 70s same shit, same shit.
Speaker 1:So I only had to pay 65 a week for that mobile home, including utilities how many people has had that fucking living room suit oh god, like I said, I think it was just a standard with mobile homes when you would purchase a mobile home I think it just came with it my granny had it with her brand new trailer. When she bought that trailer, it came with that furniture. It came with the wallpaper that matched right like the whole fucking house the.
Speaker 2:The whole motif was just set up, and then shag brown goldish carpet Like y'all the late 70s and early 80s.
Speaker 1:It looked like the furniture in the walls looked like somebody had just barfed.
Speaker 2:And they came up with that color. We had the TV on the TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I didn't have that. We had the floor model TV and when it broke down years, I think I was probably 10, 10 or 11 before we got a different tv and that tv had been in my dad's family for like 30 years the floor model with the carpet on the side no, I just I just had to bring that up.
Speaker 2:I was just picturing the living room area you had to go.
Speaker 1:There was no remote. You had to go turn the dial. Yeah, you had to turn the knob the yeah, it wasn't even a dial, it was a knob, if you're lucky you had the corded clicker. No, there was no corded clicker. We didn't have that. No, we had to get our ass up. It was a piece of furniture. Yeah, the TV was a piece of furniture, with the top of it was a table. You could put decorations on top.
Speaker 2:Ours wasn't as bougie to have the carpet still. It kind of fell off and we drew on the wood.
Speaker 1:That was there, you kids you know, yeah, my yeah, shit was wild back then. Okay, all right, so when David would get home. This is not funny, but it is kind of a little bit. Okay. So, the storm of the century. Remember when that was the biggest thing on tv at that time? And I mean, okay, so we're in 99 movie, the storm of the century but it was as a mini series on tv they played different episodes or they played different parts of the movie every night.
Speaker 1:It was like a three-part mini series. Okay, so imagine you're at home. You're watching this shit night by night. Angelica montano is locked up in david's house. She has to watch this shit with these fuckers every night. Okay, and they watched it. They watched the storm of the century. While angelica is just sitting there freaking out thinking about her kid yes, she had a kid, oh God Thinking about her boyfriend and scared of what was going to happen to her, chained up, know that her fucking life is going to be over, while these fuckers are just watching TV.
Speaker 2:Hanging out. It's cool. I prodded you a couple weeks ago. Don't you know me by now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right On the third day of her abduction, they took her into the toy box where they raped and tortured her for some time. And then David looks at his watch and was like, okay, that's enough time for storm of the century.
Speaker 2:It was the last leg of the show they were just like we're gonna leave you in here, or did they bring her back? They let her watch some more huh, you gotta finish this series though.
Speaker 1:right, you got to finish this series, but first, David forced her to give his limp ass dick a blowjob.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's like here you go, it's not going to work, but make this happen.
Speaker 1:Because, yeah, he was very impotent, but now he had been prescribed Viagra at this point, but I guess he didn't take any of that that night. Now let me go into his little Viagra journey. Okay, viagra.
Speaker 1:So when Viagra first came on the market and he heard about it because he had been impotent his whole life and I think that that's a little bit to do with his His autoerotic, horrific fixation on doing sadistic torture toward women, like angelica said, that he put like a rubber band or something on his fucking oh, he heard like a vacuum cleaner, I don't know, but she said that he put a rubber band on his penis to hold it up a little, yeah, but anyways, he had started taking viagra at this point and his colleagues at the park, at the state park, said that it changed his life, that he started wearing cowboy hats, spiffier clothes and turquoise jewelry.
Speaker 1:Oh look at him now and every night about having women collars that he would make love to for hours.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:But I guess he didn't take his Viagra this night because Angelica definitely said he had a limp dick. Okay, fuck's sake. But it is said that he actually called Viagra like the company and said will this help me get an erection without hurting somebody? He okay, I don't know if that's a hundred percent true. Some kind of a conscience there, right, he's like it is said that he literally called the fucking hello Viagra. How are you doing today? Yeah, well, this medication helped me achieve an erection without hurting somebody.
Speaker 2:In the name of.
Speaker 1:Jesus, like what the actual fuck? I hope, I really hope, that that's not true. I feel I mean because, no, I wouldn't doubt it a bit.
Speaker 2:No receptionist. What did he have as far as his father bringing magazines to him? What did he have to associate sexual relations with without having?
Speaker 1:that that's the only way that he could get. That is so fucking terrible. That is scary.
Speaker 2:He couldn't achieve his erotic goal without having some horrific shit happen. That's what his daddy brought into that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he's in his 50s by now. I don't know if he was always dealing with impotency, but he definitely was before Viagra came onto the scene. Right, well, I mean all this makes sense from dealing with impotency, but he definitely was before viagra came onto the scene right?
Speaker 2:well, I mean, all this makes sense from his childhood. This really does make sense to me. I mean, none of it makes sense yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1:We're not justifying it, none of it.
Speaker 2:Making that clear none of it, but from his childhood he did not have a good explanation he didn't know any other, did not have a good explanation, he didn't know any other way.
Speaker 1:That's why we talked about in the first episode. So horrific Make sure your kids know that porn and things of that nature are not real Right.
Speaker 2:We talked about all that, and every bit of all this is not not supported by us in any means.
Speaker 1:It is not consensual. We're just trying to figure out why a human being would think like this.
Speaker 2:Analyzing the human being right now, I feel like he didn't have a contrast of healthy no, there was nothing.
Speaker 1:Healthy Period. So Angelica pretended that she liked giving David the blowjob and acted like she enjoyed the whole experience. So they would let her go. And it worked. Oh, so she was team she, yeah. She even told them let's, let's do this again, and this time I won't be the victim. She was trying really hard to get out. Leather and don't, don't, don't associate him with one for Brimley.
Speaker 2:No. Leather Brimley, leather face is cool. Leather Brimley Hefner, leather face is cool. Leather Brimley Hefner. On high over here, you fucking piece of shit.
Speaker 1:So David even let her call and arrange for a bus to Albuquerque Now the sickos would drive her to the bus stop. They drove off and then Angelica frantically started to flag people down because she wanted to turn them in. And it just so happens that an off-duty cop stopped and asked if he could help. She said she needed a ride to Albuquerque and then told him the whole story. After she was done telling him everything, the man revealed that he was a cop and offered to take her back to TRC to file a report.
Speaker 1:She said she was then. Then she got terrified. She was like I can't, yeah, no, listen to this. She said I can't do that because the tier c police are involved and nobody would believe her. Now they do not. There's no elaboration on that, but those words came out of her mouth and this guy's like what the fuck? I am trc police and what?
Speaker 2:you know, maybe the newer guy you know now this story.
Speaker 1:Everything that she had told him was so horrifically bizarre to the cop. Like I said, I gave you the mild version. If you want to know everything, listen to the book. They fucking, really tortured, fucking hurt this woman.
Speaker 2:This is bad enough for me.
Speaker 1:I don't want this I gave you the the very mild version.
Speaker 2:Thank, you for that.
Speaker 1:You're welcome if I told you, jesse, I wouldn't be able to get you out of bed for three days if I told you what this woman went through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a ball of mustache so, like I said, he said he thought that it was so horrifically bizarre that he didn't believe her and he didn't file a report either. Oh then Angelica, when she got to Albuquerque, she told her father about it. They were actually planning to go back and kill David Parker Ray, but her father I mean, this is insane. Her father was gunned down by a 15-year-old kid outside of a Taco Bell when a drug deal went bad.
Speaker 2:Right, fucking there.
Speaker 1:Like they were gonna go back and take this fucker out. Probably Cindy too.
Speaker 2:And the leather lives on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay. So on March 20th 1999, Cindy and David got into their camper truck and went to Albuquerque to seek out another victim. He met up with a pimp in the red light district and said he wanted a girl for a blowjob. The pimp sent out Cynthia Vigil and she got into the RV. And when the deal was discussed, David then pulled out his fake badge and told Cynthia that or, Cynthia, this is okay.
Speaker 1:So it's going to be confusing for a little bit. There's Cindy, Cindy Hendy, and then there's Cynthia. Cynthia is this victim? Okay, Right, right. He told Cynthia that she was under arrest for the solicitation of sex and handcuffed her. Then Cindy came out holding a gun and told Cynthia that she had everything on tape. Cynthia fought back, but Cindy and David got her down and shackled her and duct taped her mouth and eyes. As they drove back to 513 Bass Road they made Cynthia strip naked, put a collar on her and then a leather mask to cover her head. Then they played David's tape recording. Now I want y'all to know that we're in 1999 here, okay, in 1999, here, okay. He had recorded that tape in 1993. And he says that on the tape. And on the tape it says me and my lady friend. Him and Cindy Hendy hadn't been together that long, so I don't know who the lady friend is that he's speaking of you think that's who.
Speaker 1:it is Okay that's, but I think there were other accomplices along the way.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, because either have never been seen again in hiding for a while, so he brought in some more of mana's harem of horrific shittery.
Speaker 1:There's a lot left un-fucking-covered here so far so after the tape, the rape and the torture, anally and vaginally, she was electrically shocked and tortured. David, okay, this is going to be bad. Okay, oh no, this is going to be really gross. Okay, david smothered some gravy on her private parts Gravy and had his dogs come in Fuck and lick it off, fighting, and then they just went to watch TV.
Speaker 2:I'm fighting Right now the air. You hear me? I can't. Well, they fucking just, they just Lindsay.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Like I said, this is I'm just. I'm just Barely.
Speaker 2:Putting in the horrificness so they're so, oh, they're so. Putting in the horrificness, yeah, so there's so oh.
Speaker 1:There's so fucking much. There's a whole chapter in the book on each one of these victims, a whole chapter.
Speaker 2:That we know about that we know about the ones we know about the shit that we know about.
Speaker 1:It's only the ones that we know about?
Speaker 2:We know about Lindsay. All right, I'm sipping, I'm sipping, you're tripping, I'm sipping.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, after all of that, him and Cindy went and just they watched TV, Leaving Angela or leaving Cindy, Cynthia, chained to the bed.
Speaker 2:So fucking part of their just daily fucking shit. It was not a big fucking deal for them. Yeah, let's fuck off.
Speaker 1:Here's just some shit for my dog and I'm going to go watch fucking Roseanne and fuck off off. Oh my god, that is probably what he was watching. Oh, and that was the good years too. 99, oh, stop. Okay, quick, probably Friends. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:They weren't watching Friends, come on.
Speaker 1:That was a big show in 99. They might have been.
Speaker 2:What might have been okay? What kind of country songs are they listening to? The same as when we stop. It took a shower. Let me finish.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, go ahead the next day, they used a series of ropes and pulleys and suspended her from the ceiling. They took the tape off of her eyes and when she opened them, she was looking at herself through a monitor. Oh fuck. Then David beat her with whips and a cat of nine tails.
Speaker 2:Lindsay. Is this where the Saul movies come from? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 2:God, is this weird? This is some.
Speaker 1:Saul movie type shit House of a Thousand Corpses.
Speaker 2:That too, that too.
Speaker 1:Rob Zombie hit us up. Oh my god, we love you so much.
Speaker 2:We were in the presence of the dude that does the Saul movies, jigsaw and all the Fuck. We need to look, we're going to look, lindsay go.
Speaker 1:And the torture fuck. We need to look, we're going to look, lindsay go. And the torture continued On Monday. So this is day three. Okay, on Monday David left for work, but not before saying when I get back I'll introduce you to the toy box. Well, cindy, she was in charge of watching Cynthia, but had left the keys to the restraints on the table near Cynthia and then just started watching TV Like she was your classic housewife in a robe eating bonbons, till the hubby got home and she got a shower and cooked dinner Smoking her misty 120s.
Speaker 2:Oh, she was a chain smoker 120.
Speaker 1:Oh, she was a chain smoker. There was one person that's one quote from a person that said she literally just lit one after the other.
Speaker 2:Period. There was probably some fucking Dorals or some shit. I don't know what she was smoking.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Okay, so you know what David Parker Ray was probably smoking Dorals Dorals Cynthia was probably smoking a knockoff version of Misty 120s.
Speaker 2:She looks like a Misty 120 girl. He was smoking Winstons, that motherfucker's Winston. All day, winston.
Speaker 1:Cubs Doral and Winston are in the same category.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Doral's more like the.
Speaker 1:Dollar General version. You know what Cynthia was probably smoking.
Speaker 2:Cools.
Speaker 1:If you look at a picture of her later on, she was a cool cat.
Speaker 2:Fuck God, salem's, salem's.
Speaker 1:Yes, back in my smoking days, my childhood friend, her dad, always had stacks on stacks of cool cigarettes in the freezer, because that's what you did when you bought a carton you put it in the freezer, they preserve. And I would always hit him. Can I, can I get a pack of them Cool? Can I get a pack of them Cool? Cause I smoked menthols when I bought them myself. It was not cool, but it was, it was whatever. It was a free pack of cigarettes and I think back. I'm like that was so gross.
Speaker 2:I was like borderline flirting, yeah, with this old man. How's that make you feel inside there, lindsey? What kind of shit did everybody was a different time. What kind of shit did everybody do right there, just as growing up? Yeah, everybody has those. You're gritting your teeth, you're doing that, that, look, look at that.
Speaker 1:Look right there, I'm just thinking back like ew. Yeah, cynthia asked why they were doing this to her and Cindy called her some racial slurs because she was Hispanic and told her that they would drug her to where she would forget the whole thing and let her out on the highway when they were done with her.
Speaker 2:So they've done that before.
Speaker 1:Cindy said David had been doing this for a long time and that he was a serial killer, and told her what they did to Angelica. Cindy was not the bitch to get involved in, your shit Like she ran her mouth. Okay, cindy said their next mission this is terrible Trigger warning. Their next mission was to kidnap a 10-year-old girl and train her as their slave, and I can assure you guys that that will not happen. But that is what they were planning in their fucking sick heads.
Speaker 2:Thoughts. But hey, my plant needs me, all right.
Speaker 1:Now let me go. Yeah, it's cuddle with the plant and let me roll. Okay, around 3 pm Cynthia was able to get those keys and she freed herself and dialed 911. 911. The operator answered, but when Cindy walked in and caught her on the phone, she smashed a lamp over Cynthia's head and hung up the phone. Well, of course the 911 dispatcher called back and Cindy said oh, it was just a mistake, everything's fine. But the operator she listened to her gut.
Speaker 1:She became something and she sent someone out anyway. Yes, now, in the meantime, there was an ice pick laying around which is very questionable to me, like why is there just an ice pick laying around? And Cynthia struck Cindy in the head with it and, like, bolted out of the house naked, bloody and with a dog collar on, she is frantically trying to get people to help her. She's waving people down, but they were dodging her, like I mean, I, I don't know if I would be the same if I saw, I don't know, I don't know how it reacts how many movies you can make off of this when cindy came uh around she came to from being struck in the head by an ice pick.
Speaker 1:She called David and he said he would be on his way and they would get. They would go find her. They would go find Cynthia. Luckily, cynthia found a house where she felt like the people inside would help her, and they did. They gave her a pink robe to put on and called 911. But the people who had seen Cynthia running naked but didn't help her were at least calling 911 as well. I mean like they had like an influx of 911 calls about this naked, bloody woman.
Speaker 2:It went down, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So roadblocks were set up and by the time David picked up Cindy, they were literally pulled over two blocks from their house and David Parker Ray's reign of terror was finally over. But there's a little more to the story Finally fucking over though. Yes, so David and Cindy both said that Cynthia was a heroin addict and she had been a willing participant in BDSM activity and they were just trying to get her off the heroin. You know they were just being good Good Samaritans that they said that they were going to.
Speaker 2:You know, get her off cold turkey at the back story that this woman already has, it's half believable already.
Speaker 1:I isn't that fucking sick but they were still booked on kidnapping, sex crimes and assault. Good, while police were investigating the house, they weren't even in the toy box yet. Okay, they were just investigating the house. They knew that this was too big for them. This was just in the house, they ain't even got over there well, they called the state police, who did in fact get the fbi involved.
Speaker 2:Yes, the fibby fibby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew you had a thing about it and it wasn't too long before cindy h flipped, telling them everything for immunity.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, good.
Speaker 1:She even told them that David had said he quote, this is a quote, not my words he had been raping bitches since he was old enough to jerk off and that he had murdered at least 14 people, at least 14.
Speaker 2:She says, she said that's what.
Speaker 1:David told her.
Speaker 2:I believe it's more than that.
Speaker 3:I already want my plant again.
Speaker 1:Well then, roy, remember old Dennis Roy, old toy boy Roy. He was called in and he admitted to his involvement with the death of Marie Parker.
Speaker 2:Watch me as I do my double flip tuck.
Speaker 1:Videotapes from the toy box were discovered and reviewed and one victim's tattoo stood out, but they couldn't identify her face out. But they couldn't identify her face. So they put a picture of the tattoo on the media and it was kelly van cleave, the one who couldn't remember oh wow, they had there.
Speaker 1:It is tied back together and she was like holy shit, that's me. And she came forward with her story about how she had been drugged. Well, she didn't know that she had been drugged. She said I went to the fucking Blue Water Saloon Next thing I know David Parker Ray's driving me home and my husband divorced me. But there was literally a video of the torture that she went through for two days that she had nightmares about every night until this was discovered.
Speaker 2:You don't want me to sleep I'm not even a female and a lot of this really does time. That's why I, like a lot of females, really love this. A lot of women and a lot of people get into this because I don't even think I'll sleep after this one. That's a lot to think about.
Speaker 1:And you go out as a, as a 20 year old, whatever and that this is just one woman of so many, of this one this one thing this one man, this one out of human, done. And there's millions and he targeted sex workers and women of color and hitchhikers that he literally felt nobody would ever give a fuck about. Isn't that terrible?
Speaker 2:Yes, and right now, at this point, I understand, yeah, I understand the infatuation with this, the need for knowledge and sharing this type of content. I mean, I've been on team drink about something forever. I mean we're doing this together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're almost a year in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this kind of shit right here, the sharing the content and other podcasters have done this, you know, and people do this. I mean we all team up together Even if we don't know each other. We don't network or whatever the knowledge that we share to put out to somebody that might get the inclination to be like wait a minute, something's not right. I need to protect myself. Something's not right. I need to protect myself. I need to be out of this situation because I've heard something on somewhere from somebody that all of these situations can line up and be the fucking most horrific thing, just like you're talking about right here.
Speaker 1:Like I mean it's hard. The things that happened in that toy box are very hard for me to talk about.
Speaker 2:You tried showing me a picture of that motherfucker and I don't want to look at it, but that's just a picture of what was in it.
Speaker 1:That's not what happened to these women.
Speaker 2:I mean, it could have just been a tree branch and I would have still been fucked up over it, you know, because of his erotic infatuation with something that is just demonic and evil.
Speaker 1:And just treating women like they don't fucking matter. Unhuman and nobody gives a fuck about them and he's like I got you, now I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no matter what Unhumane, just complete, just involving animals and just going back and watching TV while the fucking fuck off. This is natural to me.
Speaker 1:No, it's not One of the victims that I didn't mention. That was very early on. I'm just going to do a quick little thing. He tried several of his I told you, very enormous dildos, right, and they would not work on her and he got pissed the fuck off because these things would not insert into her body and they're beating that flesh and human. God, I mean it literally makes everything in my body hurt.
Speaker 2:I have chills.
Speaker 1:Everything in my body hurts Chills.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't know that feeling because I'm not a female.
Speaker 1:but and what's sad is, most of these women had already been through abusive situations. I mean even Cindy Hendy, and she became a part of it. Yeah, you know, it's just, it's oh, I don't oh.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. He knew where to go to find broken people, and broken people can latch on to broken people and broken people can latch on to broken people.
Speaker 1:Well, while investigators cataloged all the items in the toy box, there was a set of I don't even know what you would call it reminders or something that would say don't let her go. If she was worth taking, she is worth keeping. Never trust a chained captive. They will beg, plead, offer sex and mention children. He had that posted in there. There was a map of Elephant Butte Lake with X's marking certain locations. They also found over 400 pieces of jewelry 400 that David had kept as trophies.
Speaker 1:They all do right, they all do, all of them. So, like I said, this was all over the news and that one cop that had picked up Angelica was like holy shit, she was telling the truth. There was another couple who had been friends with Cindy Hendy and one night Cindy got stupid drunk at their house and had even told them that David was a serial killer and had a torture chamber like bragging about it to the couple and the couple didn't believe her. Motherfuckers, my babies, my loves, if somebody ever tells you about something like this, don't be like oh, they're just drunk, they're just playing.
Speaker 2:No, have that shit investigated motherfucker feels like he's untouchable, like he's feeling it right in front of you and you just be like laughing and because you're talking about it right, yeah, yeah, and they're just saying this shit like it's just part of life. It's no fucking big deal, dude.
Speaker 1:There is no situation that I would ever somebody. We have lots of friends come over from time to time. We have what we call our little back porch chats, talks, whatever. Not one time. In how long have we been together 13 years has not one person that I know ever sat on my back porch drunk or gardening, ever spilt anything that would come close to this type of shit? No, we're writing their fucking name down and they're going away.
Speaker 2:I think the party's over.
Speaker 1:One podcast. I can't remember what I listened to. They were like if somebody ever talks about this around you, write their name down.
Speaker 2:And I was like that's we do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do. I mean, like the closest thing we've ever had is our last hurricane Helene. We sat on the back porch after a week. We cooked on our non-electrical devices that our gas-burning devices, our charcoal devices. We had dinner, we had some drinks and we sat around and did trauma-dump candy salad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean hurricane parties. Actually, I don't buy a generator on purpose.
Speaker 1:And guess what? Nobody dumped anything about shit like this.
Speaker 2:No, and we were calling people to come hang out. Hey, let's just grill out and just hang out. Well, all kinds of crazy people over here just having a good time. Hurricane party. The aftermath no power for like three days.
Speaker 1:No, and I mean we were prepared for it. We prepare, we're Floridians.
Speaker 2:We know what to do. We're going to empty our freezer. We're going to. We didn't need a freezer.
Speaker 1:We cook it all. We have a gas-powered cooker, we have a charcoal grill. Yeah, we do our things. We kind of live it up during hurricanes without power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hot, sweaty, stinky. We don't want to, we don't want to. But we can take showers still, no matter what.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have city water, so we can still take cold showers. I don't buy a generator on purpose just because of that purpose just because of that, that experience and that hardship, a little bit of hardship is good in life. It is, it, is it.
Speaker 2:It teaches you how to be resourceful yeah, and it teaches our kids because, because, they've been through four now and where we've had to okay with it.
Speaker 1:They don't have to have no devices no power, whatever we're gonna hang out, and that's a good, take a break out to the vehicles, get a little ac. Yes, take a cold shower. Good yep, it's good shit teaching. Take a break out to the vehicles, get a little AC.
Speaker 2:Yes, take a cold shower. We're good. Yep, it's good shit Teaching.
Speaker 1:All right. So back to this bullshit. We're going to wrap this up. Okay, FBI tracked down Angelica and interviewed her and she told her story. Now she went on to have a good life, she married, she had children. I'm so happy about that. So, David's property, the lake and the spot where Rory said Marie Parker was buried, they were searched but no bodies were ever found. None. The lake. So because of the temperature constant temperature changes throughout the year, and okay, so our listeners may not know, but there's a lake or a pond or a is it a lake, Ocean pond Near us and it has very murky rotter.
Speaker 1:It's a lake. Even for experienced divers was hard to search. The water in certain parts of this lake is about 200 feet deep. Like I said, it's a 36,000 acre coverage of water.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:It's an irrigate Hold on, I actually screenshotted some facts about this lake. Hold on, let me pull this up.
Speaker 2:It's got a dam and shit too. Really, hold on, give me two seconds. Two seconds. Shit too really quick. Hold on, give me two seconds, two seconds.
Speaker 1:Lindsey, you fucking killed me. I just wanted to say that you fucking killed me. Okay, so this reservoir can hold 2 million 65 and 10 acre feet of water. Um, it provides irrigation to 178,000 acres of land.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's a dammed lake. Yes, there's a dam, it's a reservoir, it's dammed.
Speaker 1:It's got all of that. That's what I was thinking and this man had already talked about how to that woman, Peggy, who called him dad how he knew how to keep a body from resurfacing, um, how he knew how to keep a body from resurfacing because remember back in episode one his business partner now that was searched and investigated. But unfortunately they still couldn't tie that to david ray parker. But I'm pretty like everybody knows that. Everybody knows, everybody knows it was in the same lake there was another body found. I'm sorry it was a burlap sack. That was surfaced and discovered by a fisherman who said there was and this is disgusting a cheese-like substance. Jesse's taking a sip and he's about to puke In this burlap sack.
Speaker 2:Let me swallow it, let me get it down.
Speaker 3:It's not funny, but he's funny, his reaction is funny.
Speaker 1:Like I, literally he was not ready, but they said that it was definitely human flesh, but they could not. They could not identify it as anybody. Trial and error.
Speaker 2:This motherfucker's had so many body counts.
Speaker 3:He figured it out.
Speaker 2:He just figured it out. Let me put some rocks in the chest cavity and sew it back up with some chicken powder.
Speaker 1:There was one investigator. It was a female. She took all this shit to heart and so distressed by the contents of the toy box that she shot herself, really Shot herself.
Speaker 2:Lindsay, another one just ricocheted Just being a part of this investigation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, could not take it.
Speaker 2:Could not take it Just being a part of it Reviewing the tapes, cataloging. Innocent bystander Just fucking checking the content. Yeah, lindsay.
Speaker 1:Well, david Parker Ray was sentenced to 224 years for the kidnapping and sex crimes and was tried separately, each for the three known victims. He was never charged with murder as there were no bodies discovered. Jesse Ray was charged with kidnapping and criminal sexual penetration and was sentenced to 30 months months fucking go crazy here Plus five years probation.
Speaker 2:Lansing.
Speaker 1:Dennis Roy Yancey was sentenced to 30 years, but he was paroled after 11. And he violated that parole and served some more time, but he was released in 2021. He walks among us. Cindy Hindi was sentenced to 36 years and was released in 2019. But here's, I got some good news. I'm ending on a good note.
Speaker 1:On May 28th 2002, david Parker Ray died of a heart attack in prison right before he was to be further questioned by state police. Now it's a bittersweet death. Yes, fuck that guy. Goodbye, rotten hell. But at the same time, there's no way of ever knowing how many victims he actually had. Jesse is so mad at me. Right now he's taking off the headphones. He's standing here looking at me in horror. I'm so sorry. This is the worst one we will do for a while. Can I give you? I'll give you that he's dying, are you okay? I'm so sorry. The plant did not work its magic on him today. The emotional support plant did not work its magic on Jesse today. A moment of silence. He's not taking this one. Well, you're going to make me get teary.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry y'all, I just don't want to.
Speaker 1:David Parker Ray broke you huh I hear.
Speaker 2:this has just been a lot, you know it opens your eyes though doesn't it. I mean I did completely just melt down. It's just the injustice. I know and the people that are undiscovered in the bottom of a reservoir. Justice, I know. And the people that are undiscovered in the bottom of a reservoir. Eventually things hopefully will but Lindsay.
Speaker 1:I know it's terrible because it's hard to be funny, funny and chuckle, chuckle.
Speaker 2:We started this for me to just be a little buzzed and goofy and whatever but I mean, it gets to you, it gets to me after a while too it's a break. That's why I have my palate cleansers how do?
Speaker 1:two palate cleansers I do suggest, ladies and gentlemen, are brendan mario's pretty funny podcast and amy poehler just talked about her. Yes, amy poehler's.
Speaker 2:Good, hey, I love her so much so I can't just backtrack emotionally real quick, I have to.
Speaker 1:Well, not everybody can I mean human.
Speaker 2:I don't know Whatever. I just I can't. I can't. I had to step away. I can't, Lindsay.
Speaker 1:Hold your hand through this. We're done. We hold your hand through this.
Speaker 2:We're done we're done with this. I know he didn't deserve a second longer in life to me no, well, he didn't get, he.
Speaker 1:I mean, he got a couple more years after this, but he is gone. He is rotting when whatever he deserves. We'll just put it that way, because you know we're not going to sit here and act like we know where anything is.
Speaker 2:But If ever you bring me to that point again, I swear to God, dude, you know what I have to try to find something to do with you.
Speaker 1:He's like Hitler right now in hell and he's getting a pineapple shoved up his ass. Yeah every hour on the hour, because Harvey Keitel is the devil and he's calling in fucking Hitler. What?
Speaker 2:did he say before he shoved that in, you're kidding me, or something? He said something you got to be joking me or something I don't remember.
Speaker 1:We gotta watch Little Nicky again, but it's hard dude.
Speaker 2:Like that is so like a whole just wave of I didn't have anything else to do but step away. Like that is so like a whole just wave of I didn't have anything else to do but step away. And I'm literally wiping my eyes right now.
Speaker 1:I know, and you know, I've been fighting back tears all day.
Speaker 2:I cry, I'm like I almost sound like I'm just holding in a laugh.
Speaker 1:My birthday is actually now. For the last four years been a very emotional time for me because Thank you for all that.
Speaker 2:I love you. I love you.
Speaker 1:A very close, a very close friend of mine passed away literally the day after my birthday and her last words to me were happy birthday, I love you. And she was leaving work and I never saw her again. So I'm already emotional, jesse. Now I'm seeing you. I love you, and she was leaving work and I never saw her again. So I'm already emotional, jesse. Now I'm seeing you, I'm trying.
Speaker 2:You just see me break down in the middle of a podcast. I'm sorry guys.
Speaker 1:So we know now David Parker Ray was your breaking point and I'm glad you let it out.
Speaker 2:Because, listen, there are.
Speaker 3:I will let you know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is just like I said. We're only a year in, we've only skimmed the surface of the horror that has happened in this world and we're going to keep talking about it. Because all these stories need to be shared over and over and over again? Yeah, because maybe the more that they are shared, the less it will happen. And that's what I'm hoping, because, if you've noticed, there are less and less serial killers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the knowledge and the sharing Because of the knowledge and the DNA I've got to recenter myself. Are you done here?
Speaker 1:Yes, fuck. Okay, recenter myself Are you done here?
Speaker 2:Yes, fuck, okay, lindsay, I mean I do the cheering thing. She's putting a lot of work, I'm not happy.
Speaker 2:I'm really informed and emotionally distraught over her stuff really I am, but thank you for sharing this and giving us a way, you know, and me being a part of it given there's, there's going to be somebody that hears this, that gets out of such a situation. There is, I guarantee it. Even if it's not that horrific, we don't get exposed to that as often. It's just in different pockets, different times, crazy shit. And if one person avoids something, that is that horrific or even close to anything to any of our stories here, thank you. Thank you, lindsay.
Speaker 1:And you know, and that's just that's what that's to me, it's when fuckers like this and I mean like you know, like Angelica was friends with these people and she felt so low of herself that she had already allowed them to abuse her prior to because of her addiction and things like that and because addiction had taken over her body, and then they were, I mean like there was. She even says that there was a point where this fucker gave her a hug before he took her to the bus station, like bring it in, what.
Speaker 2:Because he just knows how fucking horrific it's just.
Speaker 1:And he justified all of it. Like I said, they literally made it out to where they were doing like an at-home detox program for Cynthia V Hill.
Speaker 2:So this was full-on confession all around. No real trial, no nothing. They're just like yeah, we fucking do this shit.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, there was trials. There was a lot. There was a lot of trials.
Speaker 2:So he played the game too, on top of fucking.
Speaker 1:But Cynthia and Roy turned on him. Unfortunately well, I'm not going to say unfortunately, fortunately it really didn't work in either one of their favors, because they did a lot of time as they should, as they should, and neither one of them should be out, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:No, no, because.
Speaker 1:Cindy Hendy and Roy Yancey walk among us. No, no Accessory and participant hendy and roy yancey walk among us like no, no accessory, and david parker is dead. Ding dong, the fucker is dead yeah, can I play music now?
Speaker 2:absolutely so. In the travels of all, all of my music experiences, you meet these icons, these gems I so call it that I latch onto.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we become, obviously we become good-ass friends, even if it's not a daily friendship, it's an online friendship, which is just as good or a music-friend relationship because we share music and we do things and we put on shows and we collaborate and we do things and we put on shows and we collaborate and we, we do, we do amazing things. When we go to a show, lindsey, and we meet these amazing people, we have to latch on to them because, you know, they're always like-minded and they're amazing people. Yeah, I love it. I love it and I miss it.
Speaker 1:We've been out of the scene for a little bit.
Speaker 3:I'm ready, I'm ready for a good jump.
Speaker 1:I'm so ready. I'm getting close, baby. I know Shadow of the Earth is about to rebrand.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited, we're getting close Come see me at the merch table A little bit more training to do, but Eric. Eric Mann. We met him, we hung out with him a couple of times, actually Played with him a couple of times. He has a project and you guys have to check this out. We played with him at the Brewing Company.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was so fun.
Speaker 2:LGBTQ like whole brewing thing.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was such a great night. We did a whole thing.
Speaker 2:We played with him at Shovelhead.
Speaker 1:Silas had the best time that night hanging out with a drag queen with we ate some pho. We had the best night there. I was wearing my Freddie Mercury because, yes, queen and I was just like this is fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:I don't care, we support everybody and everything. Her name was Allegra. Yeah, she was kind of famous. She was on the fucking the drag queen.
Speaker 1:She was awesome and Silas like vibed with her so hard and then he came back.
Speaker 2:He's like I think he's a man, but I don't care. That's okay. There was just so many bands there, it was just-. It was a great night we, we were kind of like before the headliner. That was really cool, right.
Speaker 3:We had a great night.
Speaker 2:We were doing great at that time. I love it. Just hanging out with so many different people.
Speaker 1:And it was like in a tent All the venues, all the places. It was in a tent beside a brewery, literally, and it was so much fun, it was so awesome. Where was that?
Speaker 2:That was Orlando, orlando, okay. And then Sho Orlando, okay.
Speaker 1:Shovelhead We've done so many things in.
Speaker 2:Orlando, yes, orlando is like our second home. I ain't even going to lie. So do you remember the guy that was singing at both places I mentioned Shovelhead and the brewery right the guy that would turn his head sideways with the long hair and was screaming and just had the whole crowd? Just amazing, Just fucking this guy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yes, he was so animated and so amazing. So fun, I just had to latch on to Eric. He's also been at. Was it Gina's he's been in? Yeah, gina's Lounge. I think we played at Gina's with him, did we?
Speaker 2:It was like three different places. We played with Eric and just all of his projects and all the bands that he's been in. He's so much fun, he's so fun and all the bands that he's been in.
Speaker 1:He's so much fun. He's so fun.
Speaker 2:So follow Eric. The band Hate it and this song. I, you know, just can't get enough of it. I'm going to show it to Lindsay because she has to read this fucking song. These guys are so amazing.
Speaker 1:So it's called Trictalomania Brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys got to check it out.
Speaker 1:Or Trictalomania Brother yeah, you guys got to check it out. Or Tric-ta-la-mania brother.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't want to do it wrong.
Speaker 1:It's very long. We will be posting it in our Instagram.
Speaker 2:Follow us we're going to share it. Thank you, eric. I hope you listen to all this. I hope you share it and everything. We're going to support you and you have some amazing music endeavors. Send us some more stuff, because I know you have some other projects going on right now. I'm excited for you, dude. I want to see you fucking on stage again. You know what. I'll open for you any day, bro any day so check this song out.
Speaker 2:So this song is trictolomania brother, by the band. Hate it and your guys, you guys, you guys, you guys are gonna love it. Check it out, all you metalheads.
Speaker 3:What's up, here we go I got to feel the body of death. I must feel something, just to feel something less. I am an animal In a film of us all screaming. I must feel something, just to feel something less. It's all sleeping. I stand on the end of the day. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I'm tired of being me. I I must do something just to feel something in. I have lost my mind. I've never felt my heart so sweetly. I must do something just to feel something in. Each step I make is a spin Feels so pain as I start to bleed. Anxiety is leading me Wolf and scap so that I feel happiness. Anxiety is telling me that the blood won't, so I don't feel pain.
Speaker 3:I pulled out my hair. I pulled out no faith. I pulled out my hair. I pulled it. I pulled out my hair. I pulled it. I pulled out my hair. I pulled it. I pulled out my hair. Blood flows right there when I need to feel something. Yeah, I pick my teeth and kiss it. In a bad space, I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pull out my hair. I pulled out my hair. I pulled out my hair. I'm lost. I can't. Well, I need to feel something. Yeah, I need my weakness and it makes me Incomprehensible. It makes me yeah, yeah, yeah, anxiety is me. Trust me, give me your blood. Anxiety is in me. Open scabs so that I feel free. Anxiety is killing me. Let the blood flow. I'm in my fakers. You're telling me I'm pulling in Just to feel some rain. I will not be dead.
Speaker 2:Until I'm free and my fate gets into a wave, I'll never walk just a thousand ways. Lindsey, lindsey, lindsey, lindsey. Oh, I love it so much that that raw hardcore yes, that's my shit. That's where my roots are Raw, fucking hardcore my roots.
Speaker 1:That's the kind of music that awakens this. Just, I don't even know what to call it.
Speaker 2:You were over there getting with it. You couldn't help it. I looked at pictures.
Speaker 1:I followed Eric Mann on Instagram. I could not find the band on Instagram, but I found them on Spotify. So it's hate it with an exclamation point on Spotify. Eric Mann on Instagram. And then I was like I remember this guy. He's so fun.
Speaker 2:What we said in the background and we were just like this dude with his head sideways, fucking, going nuts just everywhere. He no shoes on, just all the energy, okay.
Speaker 1:So I was telling jesse, I was like that's the guy. Okay. So we were at gina's lounge, jesse was playing with shadow of the earth and eric was there with his band and, um, so there was a fishnet contest. I really didn't I wear fishnets to every show. I really didn't want to enter. She fucking killed it. I was. It was that time of the month. I was in a lot of pain.
Speaker 1:I was not even feeling going to the show I cried, I cried on the way um, so I was like second runner up to the winner, who is a friend of mine, noelle scarberry there's so many hot chicks there and fucking fishnets, you came in second fucking place and he, he came up to me. He's like bitch. I just want you to know you're beautiful and you know what, eric man, you are beautiful like. I love you. I love your music.
Speaker 1:Everybody was coming up and hitting on my old lady right in front of me because she was fucking hot as fuck. But like he, you have to see this guy's stage presence. Every project, band, everything he's in, yeah.
Speaker 2:Follow him all of his projects.
Speaker 1:Just check them all out, Like I said yeah, jesse's band has played with him several times. I always have a great time when that guy is there, like love you, eric Mann.
Speaker 2:Isn't that cool. I can pull out something like that.
Speaker 1:I am so excited that, yes, you brought that back Like core memory unlocked. Right, yeah, yeah, I've had a great time with that guy and we have seen him at several shows and it's always a great time. Music is phenomenal, time. Music is phenomenal and I love those filthy breakdowns. I love that pig squeal type fucking. Whatever it is, I love it. That is my jam, that is my shit, that is my. That is my favorite things to go to.
Speaker 2:He's our age, so it's like DNA. This guy gets it Like yesterday.
Speaker 1:Jesse was playing 90s country, which I also love. We're well rounded in in our genres. But then I was like, all right, you got two songs and I need to listen to some pig squeals like it literally I knew this was coming at least this part and you broke me.
Speaker 2:Today I did break the biggest break today, yeah, you break me tomorrow, you break me every day, but I love you, so I will perfect.
Speaker 1:I will keep the next one that's on this level a little further out in the future. I mean, like all of them are horrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, give me a break.
Speaker 1:But I'll give you a break. So next week is our 50th episode. We are going to do a back porch party where we play all the bands, or most of the bands that we have featured for an hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or a little over. Well, we're going to be streaming live on that one. Yeah, we're going to be streaming live. We're going to stream.
Speaker 1:TikTok. So drinkaboutsomethingpod underscore Lindsay on TikTok. I'm going to stream live.
Speaker 2:If you want that content, you're going to watch us live you can check out all the bands that we've played for our whole first season and we're going to go over all of them.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get on the back porch, and then we're going to kick off second season in a whole different state, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:With a new story. Well, she's going to give you a little something.
Speaker 1:I'll give you a little something. We'll record a Minnesota. A little something, a little Minnesota.
Speaker 2:Minnesota. We got so much to do. We're going to go on this big ass trip. It's like 48 hours of driving Total.
Speaker 1:Out of 8 days. That's not bad.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of driving, it's a lot of stuff. We're going to give it all.
Speaker 1:We're knocking a lot of things off of our travel bucket list in eight days, which is something that I've wanted to do for years.
Speaker 2:The eastern seaboard will be fucking demolished by the time Gen Z goes up and down. We're going to get it, yeah, so I'm excited for that Fuck.
Speaker 1:So yeah.
Speaker 2:Eric, you fucking killed it. So yeah, eric, and also follow me for the content on that trip.
Speaker 1:There's gonna be a lot of it, a lot of it so that's.
Speaker 2:That's the biggest thing on the end of this one is follow the the socials so you can find it. I'll even get on Facebook and do some live shit we're gonna get a little speaker out we're gonna talk about all the bands. We started with Curtain Call Records, some of the bands that I've played with, and I ended with one of the bands that I played with on the whole season, lindsay Fuck. Who am I going to play next? Who knows?
Speaker 1:50th episode.
Speaker 2:Like some crazy metal band or something. We love metal music, but I love all music we wrapped up. I got some cool shit from South America coming up too.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Finally going to get into that.
Speaker 1:Isn't that the one continent that we weren't being listened to? We?
Speaker 2:haven't been. No, that's the only continent we haven't been.
Speaker 1:Alright, so South America, listen to us.
Speaker 2:One of our huge followings, I think our second. Now it's like Singapore.
Speaker 1:Really, it's fucking crazy. Jesse keeps up with those stats. Well, I research the cases and run my mouth. Why do we have a lot of follow-ups in?
Speaker 2:Singapore. It used to be LA, but now, I think, singapore.
Speaker 1:Singapore is number one.
Speaker 2:It's number two.
Speaker 1:Number two, Of course, the United States.
Speaker 2:Well, United States yeah, and of course, florida is the biggest state, and then I think Jacksonville is the biggest city In Florida, as far as the biggest city in Florida, as far as the biggest city period. And then we're going global, though is it's everywhere. And then I love it Cause I'm reaching out and I'm finding all these cool bands, and a lot of them, of course, are heavier music, but I have like reggae, I have some yeah, we're partial to the heavy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but especially me.
Speaker 2:I have some Latino music.
Speaker 1:I have some cool stuff and I have some Latino music.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love that too Some cool stuff coming so much. And reggae.
Speaker 2:And we have some country music bands. I don't mind anything, we don't, we love it all. We just want to share your content. So all the bands check us out, send us your stuff and if you don't reach out, after season two I'm actually just going to start replugging the same bands, because I want to support the bands that are really a part of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they have a lot in their catalog as well.
Speaker 2:And we actually latched on to a couple of cool-ass places and a cool management and just support and that's what we want to do as far as the music and the end of all of the horrific stories that Lindsay tellssey tells, we want to share music.
Speaker 1:I broke my husband you broke me.
Speaker 2:I need a reset, reset oh a lot.
Speaker 1:There's a long story behind that. We'll tell that another day.
Speaker 2:Yeah hey, we have a couple little cool contests maybe we'll tell that in our recap yeah the story behind reset, reset, we might, we might a couple little, uh cool contests. There was a joke that I'd said way back in season, in our first season, right I'm knocking the mic, so if you hit us, up and you tell us the answer to that joke, and then the uh adam sandler flask count.
Speaker 2:So how many flasks did were their drink out of the crazy flat? You know, what's funny is because the flask from fucking. So how many flasks were their?
Speaker 1:drink out of Get in the flask. You know, what's funny is because let's get in the flask from fucking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ties together. All the flasks, adam Sandler. We were watching Hotel Transylvania 3 and just how beautiful.
Speaker 1:That's my favorite.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite one. How beautiful they just tie all of their friends together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I love adam sandler so much. It's not just him, it is all of all of his entourage his college buddies, his snl buddies, his buddies that he's made along the way, music musicians that he loves and appreciates, like dave matthews, oh my god, everybody, dave matthews, uh, characters in his movies are iconic.
Speaker 2:they're small, but, but we take advantage of everybody that comes in there and then all of their life changes. And everybody Shaq, fucking Rob Schneider and people that have just David Spade. Kevin James.
Speaker 1:Chris Rock, nick Swardson I love them all. I am Zdolf, I'm Zdolf, I am Zdolf, I love them all. I am the Dolph, I'm the Dolph, I am the Dolph. So I have finally found somebody that loves that movie as much as my family does, so that's Just Go With it. Adam Sandler movie One of my managers she knows every fucking word and line and scene of Just Go With it, and we quote that shit all the time.
Speaker 1:If you haven't watched, just Go With it, and we quote that shit all the time. If you haven't watched, just Go With it, just go watch it, just go with it, just go with it and just go watch it. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:We love you guys. We will see you guys on our 50th explosion. We're going to play a bunch of music, and then Lindsey's going to well music on the socials, right, and then we're going to do a little something, something, a little side story, a little something, something Just to cap off.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say side story, because that's a last podcast thing, so we'll call it short story. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2:Lindsay, a first year of just doing podcasts. A whole year, one whole year out of your life. A Minnesota with these headphones on I love it.
Speaker 1:I've loved this journey so much you feel like you're calloused.
Speaker 2:Yet no, I'm not I mean I was calloused before I started, before you fucking you.
Speaker 1:But there's still ones I mean, y'all have heard me cry on a few episodes and now you've heard me and now you've heard jesse cry.
Speaker 2:You probably heard me a little bit here and there, but I just want y'all to know.
Speaker 1:Jesse took off his headphones and stood at our refrigerator because we record in our kitchen. We are just average little joes with a dream in our kitchen. He was standing at our refrigerator sobbing period and I messaged my group chat of my besties and said y'all, david park, parker Ray has broken my husband and Aaron, she goes oof. That's a hard story. I'm like I know Jesse's dying. I'm dying.
Speaker 2:Let me get off here, let me get off here, lindsay, can we be done?
Speaker 1:yes, so stay tuned for our recap on Wednesday. We love y'all so much and we'll have more for you in the future. Thank you for staying with us this far and yeah, yeah, yeah, we love you so much. Yeah, bye.
