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EPISODE 50: Ed Gein's house of horror
Ever wondered where Hollywood's most iconic villains came from? In our landmark 50th episode, we pull back the curtain on Edward Theodore Gein—the Wisconsin recluse whose nightmarish crimes spawned Norman Bates, Leatherface, Buffalo Bill, and countless other fictional monsters.
Born in 1906 to an alcoholic father and fanatically religious mother, Ed Gein's childhood was defined by isolation and psychological abuse. His mother Augusta, who taught him that all women were "harlots," kept her sons completely secluded from society on their 155-acre farm. When she died in 1945, Ed—then in his late 30s—was left utterly alone, having never developed basic social skills or relationships outside his family.
What followed was a descent into unimaginable horror. While the sleepy town of Plainfield saw Ed as merely an odd, pitiable figure who babysat local children, he harbored gruesome secrets. After the disappearance of hardware store owner Bernice Worden in 1957, authorities discovered her body at Ed's farm—along with furniture upholstered in human skin, bowls made from skulls, face masks crafted from women's faces, and most infamously, a belt made entirely of human nipples.
From Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho" to "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and "The Silence of the Lambs," Gein's influence on horror cinema is immeasurable. As Netflix prepares to release "Monster: The Ed Gein Story" on October 3rd, join us for this unflinching exploration of the real-life nightmare behind your favorite scary movies. Because sometimes, truth is more terrifying than fiction.
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Speaker 2:Oh my God, are you malfunctioning?
Speaker 1:I guess we can say that in a British accent, because I just found out that Bloody Mary was an actual female that killed a whole lot of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So if you follow me on TikTok, wow, drink about something. Pod underscore Lindsay. We went, we made Bloody Marys this morning on there and with some new ingredients that I got for my birthday, and I gave Jesse a little history lesson behind.
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Speaker 2:You, sweet summer child, actually you're a winter child. I'm a winter child that don't remember shit.
Speaker 1:That's what I am.
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Speaker 2:Yes, we made these. We usually use Zing Zang, which we still use a little bit of that, but we made them with Devil Dave's, or was it Dave Devil's Devil, dave's Devil.
Speaker 1:Dave's the great Bloody Berry mix.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it's very nice with some pickle vodka and some Cajun garlic and some turkey. I mean we got. We got a whole dinner.
Speaker 1:We threw a whole thing. Yeah, there's bacon. We threw in bacon.
Speaker 2:And green beans. We got pickled green beans in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Macon likes the bacon, if I'm not mistaken, from South Park. Remember that. Yes, we were talking about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just telling you about that today. Parker and Matt stone is just so fucking iconic they so for some reason, all of their old shit has been coming up in my. Is it like an anniversary this year? South park anniversary.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's an anniversary every day for me, but like I've never had um that much content from trey parker and matt stone, like all their old interviews. There are little little things they used to do in between in the episodes, like at the beginning or the end or in the middle, where they were sitting in front of the fireplace with the dog, and they would be really, oh my God.
Speaker 1:You see my face right now because I just lit up about this whole theory thing going on. What Basketball.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:What if this Savannah Bananas is like the dawn of that whole theory? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, because people are getting bored, at sports, certain sports and I was literally telling Jesse that the other night because I don't like sports and but I would go see Savannah Bananas or the party animals.
Speaker 1:You're selling out fucking Wrigley Field and stadiums. You're selling out stadiums.
Speaker 2:You're adding theater to sports and it's.
Speaker 1:Basketball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, it's basketball, so they had it figured out right, but in basketball they used the basketball.
Speaker 1:They made a whole sport in its own. It was like Well, they took baseball Iconic. I'm not shitting on baseball, okay, american iconic.
Speaker 2:It's just baseball. Okay, american iconic, this is boring at this stage.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, this is my humble opinion, sorry. What if there's a don of it? Now, adam sandler, just put a little something in there too, right, oh yeah, so what if there's a don of professional? Well, you know, of course I brought up lingerie football. Of course you know, because I'm a dude, whatever Right, I brought that up. But like iconic you pig I am, I was honest with you, lindsay, at least I was honest. No, I was just, I was quoting.
Speaker 2:Rizzo from Grease.
Speaker 1:You pig, if you're a dude, dude, you're going to watch. You're not going to scroll past lingerie football for a second.
Speaker 2:I would watch lingerie football. What are you? That's why I brought it to your attention, because you'd be like, look at them.
Speaker 1:Yams, I'd be like look at that cake, look at all that, but anyhow, anyhow, you have a whole ass thing going on here.
Speaker 2:I do.
Speaker 1:And there's a whole 50th episode. I know that you've created. Do you want to that I wrote oh first of all, happy 50th oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Happy one year anniversary. Oh, oh yeah, we already did on our little live recap.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, here we go with the intro. Okay, this is number 50. Holy shit, let's see. So I mean I turned that up to 12 on that. I was jimmy hendrix on that one. Sorry if I blew up any speakers.
Speaker 2:I had a crunk all the way up, dude.
Speaker 1:Iunk all the way up, dude. I did all the way Because we are 50. I'm all the way up, I'm all the way up.
Speaker 2:We're not 50. But our podcast is Well yeah 50th episode. Our podcast is one year old. We're babies.
Speaker 1:This will be our official 50th episode. Now we've put out way much more, way, much more.
Speaker 2:Way much more, but this is our 50th episode about an episode About a case Classified as a case episode type.
Speaker 1:Your thing, your thing. Well, fire the fuck off. Lindsay Shit. I'm ready to strap in. I heard this is going to be a shitty one again.
Speaker 2:First of all, what made you feel old this week?
Speaker 1:My old, my old, is watching Silas, okay, and we just brought up South Park because that my old, my old, is watching Silas, okay, and we just brought up South Park because that's that's probably coming later on. We're, we're, we're trying to keep him away from so much because there's just so much. Right, it's hard, but he does watch Beavis and Butthead and he's all asking me questions. I'm like just I'll tell you later what this stuff means, because he's way later.
Speaker 1:Oh God, he's too young, but it's everywhere and that's like that's for all audiences. Now Beavis and Butthead for all audience. Remember they were a big uprising about all that bullshit back in the 90s, Right? Anyhow, if you are a true Beavis and Butthead fan. Back in the day they had this song called If I Only had a Brain, by MC 900 Foot Jesus.
Speaker 2:What a name.
Speaker 1:Isn't that cool. But we love like that style of music because I played some at the dinner table last night that it goes. It's just like all the shit we love the Bloodhound Gang and shit like that. Like we love that kind of that groove and that you that drive and and he's rapping in the background. He's got this whole goofy rap thing going on, you know, like mclemore or something. It's really, it's really cool. So watching my son do that and that song's at least 32 years old, come on, come on. That made me feel old, but I enjoyed it. I had to hit my best friend up. I was like dude, we grew up to this song and we run around singing this song for a couple of years just in our heads. We couldn't help it. It was just all of our existence as kids not much older than Silas. So that was kind of what made me feel old. So, but uh, I'm gonna throw the ball on your end of the court there, Lindsay. What made you feel old?
Speaker 1:this week so well we were talking about shell and peas in front of the TV with newspaper down. Nobody does that shit, no more. No, with a basket, a laundry basket, I lay in here we had like these, like these.
Speaker 2:they weren't't I don't want to say disposable, but they were reusable, but they were very cheaply made like uh, wooden baskets, right, like it was like a bushel, like we were showing bushels right, you'd get a bushel in the wooden basket that's my parents farmed and, uh, we grew all kind of different peas like like agar peas, pink eye, purple hulls, black eye peas, lima beans those were a motherfucker Limers To shell oh my God, that's why you don't like limers, but we used to sit down. I love lima beans. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I love lima beans. We need to get some limers. Yes, some limers.
Speaker 2:But we used to sit down in front of the TV shell peas watching. We sit down in front of the TV shell peas watching Will Fortune, jeopardy, and then whatever you know show was on that night.
Speaker 1:I mean it was Roseanne and Sanford and Son I wasn't allowed to watch.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't allow. I wasn't allowed to watch Roseanne, so it was probably like TGIF or Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, and there was a show before that called Paradise.
Speaker 1:Married with Children on my end over here over here.
Speaker 2:Yeah you, you got to watch all the cool shows. I did not.
Speaker 1:I had to sneak those is there a deep seated jealousy that you have really? You got to hate in your heart.
Speaker 1:Let it not really because I've been able to watch all those shows as I've been older, so yeah you know, what was really cool, though, as far as lindsey and i's relationship is watching her get to grasp and embrace so many different things that she was sheltered from, and she just lights up, like she's living the moments like I get to relive it through her that I've already forgot about. I'm like dude. I used to have this enthusiasm about all this music and all these horror films and all this stuff, and she's finally just blossom into this person that is just grasping some certain things, and I'm like dude. I get to relive this because you're so lit up about it. I feel it again. You know it's still you. You keep me alive, lindsay, you are life.
Speaker 2:But it's cool though, because, even though it made for a very awkward childhood that I was sheltered from, I am glad that I did get to experience a lot of things for the first time as an older person, because it makes more sense than it would to than it would have to me as a.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:As a kiddo. So even though I did like because I would get home and I had to be by myself for an hour before my parents would get home from work and they would play reruns of Married with Children, Roseanne Cheers, shit like that. So you did get it, I did get it, but I didn't get it like in a row. I had to watch it kind of all over the place.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So when streaming came out, you know that's what I was doing.
Speaker 1:You was on it.
Speaker 2:I was binging all those shows front. To finish I watched Cheers, frasier, roseanne and even all the shows that I grew up with. That I did watch week to week like Step by Step Family Matters Boy.
Speaker 1:Meets World? Yeah, saved by the Bell. Saved by the Bell, yeah. So when was the first time, though, that you have watched we'll say, texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Speaker 2:Here in this house.
Speaker 1:Really yeah, we'll say Texas Chainsaw Massacre here in this house. Really, what about something like Silence of the Lambs?
Speaker 2:now. I watched Silence of the Lambs for the first time with my friend Carrie when I was 16, 16 or 17 did you watch Carrie with Carrie? Yes, I did that was when I fell in love with that movie. I watched it high as a fucking kite.
Speaker 1:The original Carrie is the tits and it literally.
Speaker 2:Like you know, that's my. I watch it every year.
Speaker 1:The OG.
Speaker 2:The OG, carrie, carrie, baby, they're all going to laugh at you. It's my favorite line, it's my favorite part. I'll hit Jesse. I'm like here it comes, here, it comes here, it comes here it comes and Travolta's in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's a good movie.
Speaker 2:It's good, but I had to put those two together, space is iconic in that movie and even her mother Like, yeah, we hate her character, but that was a great job. Period.
Speaker 1:Iconic.
Speaker 2:I wish we had a little bit great time in Maine, so I just had to bring those two together Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, because, uh, I'm sorry that I gaslit you, jesse, and our listeners, and I said I was going to do a short episode this week, but this is not that short, but it is the 50th episode, one year anniversary, and I wanted to go out of season one with a bang and.
Speaker 2:I just want to say really quick thank you so much to our listeners for being here with us for our first year of growth, and we are striving to be better and better yes, thank you guys, so much, thank you, thank you, thank you to be better and better.
Speaker 1:Yes, thank you guys, so much, you guys, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you.
Speaker 2:Y'all have to forgive me. I had a little cough and fit a minute ago and I'm still recovering.
Speaker 1:I think she inhaled something out of her bloody marrow. Is that what it was? The salt, the rim job, the rim job, inhaling.
Speaker 2:But, thank you guys, yes, yes, we love you so much and this has been a very I hate to call it fun journey, but it's.
Speaker 1:No comment.
Speaker 2:It's been a journey.
Speaker 1:No effing comment, Lindsay.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Are you guys ready?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure Fire a fucking way here. All right, it's spooky season. You're sitting down with your popcorn or your snack of choice on a crisp fall evening, with your favorite cozy blanket and some pumpkin-flavored anything, and you think to yourself what shall I watch? Maybe Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho from 1960 or 1998. Silence of the Lambs, texas Chainsaw Massacre. Maybe House of a Thousand Corpses. And then you say to yourself, I think I'll just watch all of them.
Speaker 1:Lindsay, you got to chill out, dude. You're giving me chills right now.
Speaker 2:Because they were all inspired by the same man, and that man is who we are drinking about today Edward Theodore Gein.
Speaker 1:Holy fuck, lindsay, I know a little bit about this one, but not the details, not the deets. And you just fucking told me that it wasn't going to be this bad. Dude, I'm saying that through my tooth. It's this bad. You'm saying that through my tooth, it's this bad. I want you know what I want. I'm gonna have to have another drink, more than what I'm drinking, because this is gonna be what I'm thinking it's gonna be.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be needing to be drinking because that's what I'm thinking well, there's a reason why I wanted to go ahead and cover oh eddie, oh eddie teddy here. Because there's a reason. I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna plug that at the end, all right. So ed was born on august 27th 1906 to george and augusta geene in lacrosse, wisconsin. This is our first wisconsin story.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Taking it to the cheese state. Yeah. I think maybe.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure I have to go back and look. I'm sorry Sometimes when I cover these, like it's so horrific that, like, my mind blocks out the details, like like it goes like I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I do, and then I'll remember them you can't at the most random time I do, and then I'll remember them at the most random times, like I do. Yeah, well, ed had an older brother named Henry and they were like about four years apart. Well, george, here we go, here we go with the salad. So George was an abusive alcoholic and Augusta was very religiously strict and she thought that almost all women were harlots.
Speaker 1:All of them, all of them, they all out to get you.
Speaker 2:And she, she was her. Their faith was what she called old Lutheran. I guess that was better than new Lutheran. I mean, she was the depravity of this woman. What about the middle Lutheran and Augusta? She hated sex, okay, and she literally, I mean, I honestly think, I mean, of course this was told. You know this story was told by an author, a historian, but I literally think she only had sex the two times Henry was born. She didn't like that. He was a boy, so she wanted a girl. Ed came along, wasn't a girl, but she decided to make him Girlie, her pet kind of.
Speaker 1:Dress him up.
Speaker 2:Well, no, oh, I mean, he was what his father would call kind of sissy-fied. He cried a lot, a little much yeah, mama's boy. He was a mama's boy 100%.
Speaker 1:What the fuck else is there to live for as you get into adulthood is having that connection, intimate connection with the person that you love, and this chick is no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, george and Augusta were like the most toxic couple.
Speaker 1:Well, of course, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Fuck. And well, she considered lacrosse to be a hotbed of moral turpentine and convinced George to move the family to a farm in Plainfield. Now, they had lived on a different farm for a very brief period of time, but Plainfield was where they made their home. Augusta wanted to completely isolate her children and keep them from the evil outside influences, and 155 acre farm was just the place to do that. And you know what else that makes me think of Bobby Boucher, obama, oh yeah, everything is a devil, it's a devil, the devil.
Speaker 1:That's a fucked up salad already, though.
Speaker 2:I know, but that lit like literally the you know. While I'm listening to the book that I listened to for this case, I kept thinking fucking Kathy Bates was in my head. At the level of manipulation, oh, it's oh yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 2:Her manipulation was really horrible. Now, since George, he was pretty much on the sauce the whole time. Augusta would be the hardest worker of the family. She did do the damn thing. She was crazy, but she did the damn thing she had to because George just wanted to drink and fuck off all the time.
Speaker 1:Crazy for feeling so blue. I'm crazy for crying, crazy for lying.
Speaker 2:I'm crazy for crying. I'm crazy for lying, I'm crazy for loving you.
Speaker 1:I can put my own words to that fuck, whatever she was lying.
Speaker 2:She was lying about people.
Speaker 1:With her closed leg gas.
Speaker 2:Well, the boys would only leave the farm to go to school, and even if they would try to make friends, augusta would go on and on and on about how horrible they were and how bad their entire family was so they couldn't even have friends.
Speaker 1:Augusta had some shit happen to her too. There's something she was.
Speaker 2:She's from germany, I don't, I don't know, I don't know who knows. So, um, this led ed I mean, and henry too, but mostly ed it um, it led to him having very poor social skills and his teacher would say that he was very odd and he would do things like just randomly laugh, like he was laughing at his own jokes, that were like playing inside of his head.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, just creating his own happiness in some way. Well, this was early signs of schizophrenia that he will be diagnosed with later on oh, so he wasn't doing it healthy, he wasn't just trying to create but this diagnosis would happen way too late.
Speaker 2:Oh, so George Gein would die of heart failure on April 1st 1940. Follow the timeline, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm trying.
Speaker 2:And Henry, well, I just started with it.
Speaker 1:Well, you started in aught three.
Speaker 2:No, I started in oh six.
Speaker 1:That's when.
Speaker 2:Ed was born, but I'm talking about follow the timeline from now on, okay. So George Gein dies of heart failure on April 1st 1940. Henry and Ed were in their late thirties, still living at home. So, augusta, she had accomplished what she wanted to. She had completely isolated her sons. Well, ed, he almost got a chance to see the world through a military draft, but after his initial evaluation the military did not draft him because he had a skin growth on one eyelid that impaired his vision slightly. So he was sent back to the farm.
Speaker 1:So I always like to point out some kind of turning point that could have been a turning point for him to get into human society where shit was going on.
Speaker 2:Could have been, he could have latched on and been a decent person Right. He's in his almost 40s. Yeah, he missed it. He's never been away from home. Oh, never been away from home.
Speaker 1:Oh man, you imagine how fucking horrific that would be to grow up like that. I know, and it's like there's not a lot you would know any different.
Speaker 2:No, well, I'm saying there's not a lot about their life until after George dies. But that's a long time to be without friends, isolation, to be without a partner, a mate, like this story. I mean deep, deep sea it makes me really fucking sad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really sad part of it that's sad and long god yeah after george's death, henry and ed would go on to do odd jobs around town. You know, because they had that they didn't. They were never a family of very good means, they just they did. They grew just enough crops and just enough livestock slaughtering to make it. Ed would even babysit kids, as he related to children better than adults. He had a very young, immature mind.
Speaker 1:He was. He was made to stay in that area, you know, in that area of his life, didn't get out of it.
Speaker 2:And even though Augusta belittled and abused Ed, he was completely obsessed with her. But, henry, he was sick of Augusta's shit and he was ready to get out and had finally met a woman he was planning on moving in with and marrying. This woman was divorced with two kids, so of course, to Augusta she was an evil harlot. That didn't matter. Henry was ready to fucking go, he was ready to get out that farm. Now Henry would tell Ed that you know he also needed to meet someone, get out of the house sometimes. And hey, man, your obsession with our mom, it's kind of weird. And Henry would say mean things about Augusta, things that were true, but Ed didn't like that. And uh, how, how dare Henry speak ill of their mother, their wonderful mother, in his eyes? Well, on May 16th 1944, it's four years from from George's death okay, ed was burning some fields to get them ready for planting and the fire got out of control. The fire department came like right away, right away, to help, uh, get it under control. And after the fire had been put out, ed was like, omg, where's Henry? But it was weird because he didn't. He said he didn't know where he was, but then he kind of led them right to him. So a search party was formed and they found Henry face down in the fields and he had been dead for some time. But he wasn't burnt. Yeah, so Henry's death's death. I think he was exactly 40.
Speaker 2:Henry's death was ruled as heart failure and later listed as asphyxiation, like possibly due to smoke in the fires. I don't know, but no foul play was suspected and there was no investigation and no autopsy was performed. So now it's just Ed and Mama. Now it's just Ed and Mama, mama. Well, a short time later. Okay, this is 1944. A short time later, augusta suffered from a massive stroke and Ed had to take care of her, but he was more than happy to. He waited on her hand and foot when he wasn't out earning money for the bills. Right now, I'm gonna go ahead and say this too they still didn't have running water and electricity, and that was well underway by this time, right yeah, I mean yeah, but I know electricity well, I know, I know I know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think they were like the only farm that didn't have these amenities. Yeah Well, in late 1945, Ed needed to buy some straw from a nearby farmer and Augusta she had gotten a little bit better from her stroke she insisted that she come along. I guess she didn't really trust Ed to negotiate a price. So when they arrived, the farmer was beating I mean trigger warning he was beating the shit out of a poor dog and like beat this dog to death right in front of Ed and his mother, and a woman came out of the house yelling at the farmer to stop. Well, this upset Augusta like really bad. But it wasn't the man beating and killing a dog, it was the fact that the woman that came out of the house was not the farmer's wife.
Speaker 1:She was a harlot, a harlot Davidson Good job, good job. He is not reading my notes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, the harlots. She was so upset that this farmer was shacking up with a woman without being married that she suffered a second stroke, oh my God, and died Right there. Not there, a few days later, fuck, on December 29th 1945. Right, yeah, it was literally like a few days later. Listen, don't get involved in other people's business, it will kill you poor Ed Gein Boucher over here.
Speaker 1:No, that's a movie plot all together this is literally a movie.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've watched them.
Speaker 1:I can dude. I can feel it coming near.
Speaker 2:Ed Gein. So, ed, he was devastated, and this because this was his only friend and what he would call his one true love. And now he was all alone in this world. All alone. So this is 1945. Ed is all alone. Okay, Snap, it said that he was inconsolable, I mean, like sobbing for quite some time and kept saying she was just too good for this world. Like over and over. And after the death of his mother, ed descended into madness A little bit deeper. I mean, I think he had already been there a little bit, but he just went really further and further into his own head. Okay, he boarded up all the rooms that his mother had used in the house and never used them again, all of them. He wanted to preserve them Like she was still there. What's that plot? Damn Lindsay. What's that plot?
Speaker 1:Psycho, psycho. Yeah, mom's probably still up there, mom's spaghetti is mom still? No, mom is not still up there but I mean he treated it like I'm almost okay, we'll get there.
Speaker 2:okay. So the rest of the house that he would use would become that of nightmares, but we'll get too. He would use one small room for himself in the kitchen where he would just eat a shit ton of pork and beans, pork and beans, all the gas, and you know what that made me think of, which is a little bit of a light shed on this darkness, and still magnolias. When they were buying the pork and beans for Drum, they said Drum likes pork and beans. He eats them with everything, everything. And then they just pile it up like 1920 cans. We're not feeding them for the whole year.
Speaker 1:I love me some steel magnolia. Yes.
Speaker 2:I love some weezer.
Speaker 1:Man god, I love her what was the chick flick that I talked about earlier today? And you were like I've never seen it. Oh fuck oh Nell. Oh yeah, we gotta watch Nell Lindsay Anyhow.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised I've never watched it, because I love Jodie Foster yeah.
Speaker 1:I watched her like I even loved her in the first.
Speaker 2:I loved her in the first Freaky Friday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I said another one that, like they were secluded too, they had to come up with their own language and appellation yeah and they came up with their own language and everything. So, oh, I didn't know it was that deep.
Speaker 2:Oh, you didn't know, I better shut up okay he would uh read a lot of pulp fiction and adventure stories about nazis and cannibals. Oh, of course they always fucking go there.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck do they always fucking go there?
Speaker 2:He became obsessed with this one woman named Isla Koch, and she was known as the bitch of Butchenwald. Fuck, here we go. Or maybe it's Buchanwald. Either way, I'm not. I don't know Isla Koch. Oh, either way, I'm not. I don't know. But Ira Kock, she was a German war criminal that used the skin of tattooed prisoners to make lampshades and other items. That's a real fucking thing, dude, you can buy that shit. This is what she looked like.
Speaker 1:Human skin lampshades. That was a. She was a little war criminal. Yeah, she looks like it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to post a picture of her in our stories too.
Speaker 1:A little fucked up espionage shit going on Doing some dirt. She was a harlot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a. I could probably do an episode on her which I may get to later on. She should be.
Speaker 1:I did put her on my list. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, she looks pretty rough and maybe talk about the one that oh, what's his name? Ian Brady was obsessed with too. That was a whole different woman. Why in the fuck do they?
Speaker 1:always go toward fucking Nazis and shit. Well, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2:So Ian Brady, and then Meyer Henley, also because he got her into the Nazi thing, and then Jim Jones, yeah, and now Ed Gein, why? And this isn't it on the ones that were obsessed with Nazis either it's very fucking strange why I don't get it.
Speaker 1:I don't get it. Is that your?
Speaker 2:resort. Well, like I said, his mom was German. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, I mean most of it tied to a global experience that happened. You know World War I and II, like there was a lot of shit.
Speaker 2:I mean, why would you be on their side, though? You know what I mean. No, never, yeah, never.
Speaker 1:Never, well, I mean, there's a lot of shit that goes on, I know, globally politically.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things that we don't understand. We never will.
Speaker 1:Don't feed into none of that shit Fucking. Just be good people, shit.
Speaker 2:In 1951, ed would start receiving a farm subsidy and he would still, because that wasn't enough. He would occasionally work for the municipal road crew and he would crop crop thresh. I did not look this up, I meant to, I had it in my notes and everything. Do you know what that is? No Crop threshing. Well, anyway, he worked for a crew with that. Let's look it up real quick Municipal Well, I, he worked for a crew with that, let's look it up real quick.
Speaker 1:Municipal.
Speaker 2:Well, I know what the municipal road crew is. They do bridges and stuff like that, right Pretty much Infrastructure, yeah, Infrastructure yeah and then okay. So crop threshing Hold on. I literally had it wrote down. To look that up.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that is. Maybe I don't know what that is. Maybe they're clearing out for roads and through crops or I don't know.
Speaker 2:So a crop thresher is a farm machine that separates grains from their stocks and I was like OK, so I don't like a combine. Yeah, that's what I grew. My dad had one of those.
Speaker 1:So I was just probably would make, he would grow. An earlier version of a combine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he would grow oats and he would sell the oat part to feed company and then with the stock he would make hay.
Speaker 1:Right, you know more about farming than I do. I mean, I did that shit.
Speaker 2:Your girl was throwing some hay. You know, back in the day there was an old house that my dad actually grew up in. It was very chilling because what he did was he gutted it out and used that as a grain storage instead of getting like a silo, and we would just go in there and play in the oats. It was so much fun. I bet like in kids that had no idea anything about farm life when we come. I mean, it was like the time of their life.
Speaker 2:You found some shit to do it was a pool of oats, I mean and, or a house of oats just diving in and they're soft yes, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1:That's cool, redneck ball pit okay I mean we hung around stuff, you know, but most of the time.
Speaker 2:But when I think back on that shit, I'm like, wow, I literally because we didn't have phones, we I didn't, I didn't have cable, none of that, and I just you went and did shit, I went and did shit I chased cows and hung out with them and I was kind of an isolated kid.
Speaker 2:I got your ass kicked a couple of times by a cow. You know, oh, I sure did whoo that was, oh, that could have been the tragedy. So, um, he, at night, he was doing, he was doing a little something different. He was doing some grave digging what this was not a job that he was employed to do, oh he would read newspapers from his and surrounding he.
Speaker 2:He looked in the obituaries for freshly you know deceased. He wanted them to be older and look like his mama. Fuck yeah, fancy Now, ed. He didn't really get out much but he did have dinner with a family that he did some farm threshing with or for that was. We're going to talk about that a couple of little later on. But he would go to a place called Hogan's Tavern and he didn't really drink much. We kind of fancied the Hogan's Tavern owner and her name was Mary Mary Hogan, who was twice divorced and she looked a whole lot like Augusta Gein. There was a part of him that actually despised Mary Hogan because she was so impure. And how dare she look anything like his precious mother while being such a harlot?
Speaker 1:No, harlot's going to look like my mother.
Speaker 2:And she was. She used foul language. Oh, clutch my pearls, I wouldn't have never made it in this time period. We would have been some harlots in this hoe. Harlots, I mean, we would have been, oh, uh. What was the one? Jim Jones' mom, the chain-smoking bitch that wore pants in like the 20s? Yeah, cussed like a sailor.
Speaker 1:She was damn sure a harlot.
Speaker 2:On December 8th 1954, seymour Lester walked into Hogan's Tavern and Mary was not there. She was gone, but there was a pool of blood on the floor. He ran to the nearest house and called the chairman of Pine Grove, because I guess all this, these little areas clustered together. Hogan's Tavern was in Pine Grove but it wasn't far from Plainfield, and so he so he called the chairman of Pine Grove and then he called the sheriff at Stevens Point. The shell casing was from a .35 caliber and they could tell that the body had been drug outside, but there was no body.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking that Ed did some dirt here.
Speaker 2:Mary Hogan would be missing for a few more years.
Speaker 1:Woo, but found later on. Oh, in what state are we getting to that, lindsay? Oh, in what state of that are we going to find out?
Speaker 2:Well, there was a farmer. This name is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1:Ok, I'm cracking to my plant now because I'm starting to picture things in my mind.
Speaker 2:I know there was a farmer named Elmo Eek.
Speaker 1:OK, I'm moving back now. You don't need to be at the plant right now. I'm good. No, I shifted back.
Speaker 2:I'm back.
Speaker 1:Say it again, lindsay. Say it one more time for the listeners Elmo eek.
Speaker 2:I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I'm eeking now listen.
Speaker 2:If this is not correct, y'all hit me up, but the book that I listened to. I rewound it. Yeah, I was listening to the audio book. I went back several times to make sure I got this name correct, but from what I could make out, from what the author or from what the narrator was saying, was, this farmer's name was Elmo Eek.
Speaker 1:You're dropping cool ass, cock, ass names around here, man. I love it.
Speaker 2:And he would employ Ed for extra help from time to time. When the subject of the missing Mary Hogan would come up in conversation, elmo would say to Ed hey, if you had spent more time courting Mary, she might be cooking for you now instead of missing.
Speaker 1:He did not.
Speaker 2:He said la, la, la, la, la, la, la la Elmo's world and Ed would crack a smile and say she's up at the house right now, and he would say this to more than just Elmo Anytime Mary Hogan was brought up.
Speaker 1:I don't think I would tell Elmo that shit at all.
Speaker 2:Nobody thought anything of it.
Speaker 1:I don't want to tickle Elmo, but not tell him about a dead body, jesse nobody thought anything of it Like period.
Speaker 2:They just thought he anything of it Like period.
Speaker 2:They just thought he was just joking, he was just being weird, ed, weird Eddie, come on, they did call him Eddie. Yeah, now there had been a few more disappearances that had happened in this area as well that were not linked to Ed either. So that's another reason why he wasn't really looked into. Yes, he was known as the town weirdo. He was a little creepy. He stared at women just a little too long for comfort, but they mostly felt bad for him. In the span of five years he had lost his entire family, like everybody, and they already knew that his mother and father had been toxic as fuck. So his weirdness was just accepted out of pity. I mean, people were trusting Ed with their children, for God's sakes. And this is still happening. Still Still happening. Yeah, an eight-year-old.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to talk about some of the people that were missing. Okay, an eight-year-old named Georgia Jean Weckler had disappeared from her home after being dropped off from school by a neighbor on May 1st 1947. After being dropped off from school by a neighbor on May 1st 1947. A 14-year-old named Evelyn Grace Hartley had gone missing from La Crosse while babysitting on October 24th 1953. November 1st 1952, a couple of guys named Victor Harold Travis and Raymond Burgess, and the car that they were driving seemed to disappear into thin air, never found, and they had been hunting next to Ed's property. And another man named James Walsh, who lived near Ed, disappeared in June of 1954. I see here at my parents' birth both of them. That's weird. But yeah, so all of these, there's like disappearances everywhere and these will never be linked to Ed. But yeah, so all of these, there's like disappearances everywhere and these will never be linked to ed, so yeah no, yeah, but this is the house.
Speaker 1:Come on in, right, he's stacking. Fuck.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of fuckery, lindsay but I didn't do those he didn't do those he didn't. I mean, it's never proven that he did.
Speaker 1:It wasn't proven, shit was happening, though.
Speaker 2:So the couple I was talking about earlier their names were Irene and Lester Hill and they owned a little store and would have Ed over for dinner from time to time because Ed helped them with chores and farming and he was also friends with their little boy, bob. Well, he wasn't little, he was like a teenager. He had actually been to Ed's house and had reported to other people in this town that Ed had preserved human heads in his house. Now Ed had just told him that they were shrunken heads from the south seas, like he had ordered them through a catalog or some shit, and ed seemed like someone who would have something like that. So again, no one thought anything of it. Just another weird thing from a weird guy somebody come, somebody come, get her that dude is over there.
Speaker 1:Not, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:This ain't right.
Speaker 1:You don't have a house with some shit like this in it. Get away with it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to rub your arm.
Speaker 1:Are you?
Speaker 2:fixing a dump shit on me. I need you to grab positive energy from the power of the plant, because the rest. I'm going to ride Elmo's wave. Still, Elmo eek. All right, we're going to have a brief funny break before we get into the horror.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm running out of funny now. I'm already out of it. I'm out of it again. I've switched lanes, Lindsay.
Speaker 2:I've switched into the world. Now I would just advise you just to let me travel through this in a world has collected shrunken heads.
Speaker 1:His parents are gone, his brother is gone and he is completely fucking psycho. Lindsay tells a story and I don't fucking want to hear it. But go ahead, lindsay, go ahead. Story, and I don't fucking want to hear it. But go ahead, lindsay, go ahead. Coming to you this fall Drink about something has the story for you.
Speaker 2:I want you to crop that out and, like, use that as an intro for everything. That's funny. You don't get that without paying me Lindsay, pay this man y'all Like and share, so we can get some ad deals, okay, okay, so are you ready?
Speaker 2:Go ahead, I'm going. In late 1957, ed had set his sights on an older woman named Bernice Worden. Bernice owned the hardware store in town, and this place was where you went to get everything from guns to antifreeze. You didn't even buy fucking chickens there, I don't know. Probably I could have, but this is yeah, this is where you went. This store was an institution that had been in the area since the 1800s.
Speaker 1:And we're in 1957.
Speaker 2:You could probably order some hounds from that son of a bitch, redfern girls well, ed, he had, uh, he had been kind of hanging out there a few times and he had even asked ola oberniess if she wanted to go down and hit the the new skating rink. You know that was in a nearby town. Oh yeah, I mean these, they're old. Like don't go roller skating. No, I'm just kidding. I kind of I still want to roller skate, are they in their like 40s or 50s.
Speaker 2:How old are they now? Ed is now 51 and Bernice is 58. Let's go roller skating. No, these are simple town folk, man. That was probably like how. When did roller skating even come to be? Look it up, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1:I would say like the 50s.
Speaker 2:Holy shit. So the first roller skating rink in the United States opened in 1866 in Newport, rhode Island. Wow, so it was probably popular in their area. I need to brush up on more history.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't have thought it would have been.
Speaker 2:No, this was almost 100 years later. Dang yeah, whoa, whoa, yeah, we're in 1957 now 100 years before that it was.
Speaker 1:I did not know that. That's mind fucking blowing. Yeah, if you thought that hit us up too, because I thought the 50s, you know, or maybe 40s, but like they were, you know, remember it was popular with the drive-in theaters and thing right and drive in everything you know. The rest, uh, the, the sonic type places or whatever you know, oh yeah, park your car and the chicks would come up for the roller skates.
Speaker 2:I know I'm really sad. I mean, I've come to to know about myself. I used to think that I was born in the wrong era, but now that I'm older I'm like no, I was born exactly what I need to be. I love the time that I was born, but it would have been cool for drive in movies to be more popular and for the roller skating to your car with your food type shit. Yeah, popular, because even when they rebooted Sonic, they tried that for a minute the.
Speaker 2:The roller skating thing only happened for like the first couple of months. They were open and our sonic is so, oh, insurance got that shit, though they were like.
Speaker 1:These chicks don't even know how to do this. It's not any fun. Yeah, it's not fun?
Speaker 2:no, it is not.
Speaker 1:It's actually a pain in the ass to get food from, and I don't even like it and everything's greasy. Like a boomer They've stripped all the Americana out of the nostalgia of the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean it wasn't just. I mean that was happening all over the world. It still is, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some of that stuff, just you need to. The other one that I just thought about, oh, an app that plays, like, uh, broadway shows and stuff on your tv, right?
Speaker 1:they probably already have that, we just probably haven't discovered it yet because we were on tubi right and he was like what about not to be, not to be, and you just play like independent and broadway shows are even smaller local shows like Gainesville's Hippodrome, stuff. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm hacking on your story here. You got some shit to drop I do. All right, you just gave me the lowdown on the skinny.
Speaker 2:So hunting season was set to start on November 16th in 1957. And on the 15th the store was quite busy. Everyone was getting their supplies and things like that. Well, old Eddie, he was in the store that night and he said he was going to return the next day with a jar or a jug or something like that, so Mrs Worden could fill it with antifreeze for him. Her son, frank, was also in the store and Ed was like hey, frank, you going hunting tomorrow. And Frank was indeed going to go hunting. So he knew Miss Warden would be there by herself.
Speaker 2:Oh, so the next morning Ed was the only person in the store because everyone was out hunting and he purchased his antifreeze. But before he left he asked Miss Warden if he could take a look at the guns and she was like sure, go ahead, because why wouldn't she? So he was looking at a .22 caliber rifle. Just so happened that he had bullets for this gun in his shirt pocket. He loaded his gun and as Miss Worden was looking out the window, he shot her in the back of the head and took her to his house. Fuck, he had also taken the cash register, like the whole cash register, and made the store look like it had been robbed. Now he also did this. I forgot to put it in the notes at Hogan's Tavern. He just like slightly ransacked it to make it look like it had been robbed. Now he also did this. I forgot to put it in the notes at Hogan's Tavern. He just like slightly ransacked it to make it look like a small time robbery.
Speaker 1:Right where he could get away with it. Get the heat off from him. Smart, I guess. Fucking horrific Shit.
Speaker 2:So no one heard the gunshot, not even the people that owned the Phillips gas station across the street. Right, if it's a 22 rifle, it's not that loud.
Speaker 1:really, I didn't know hey I don't, you know, I don't know shit about guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, small, small caliber, fuck that, that sucks well, later that day, frank, her son, he comes back and he talks to the owner of the gas station who told frank that he had seen the warden's work truck Try and say that really fast Warden's work truck. He had seen that truck leave around 930 that morning Like they had their own little you know, it was probably like a little Chevy painted up wardens. It drove off. So Frank was like what the fuck? She never said she was going to close early. So he goes into the store. He sees that had been ransacked, like I said, she was going to close early.
Speaker 2:So he goes into the store. He sees that had been ransacked, like I said, just a little and the cash register was gone. And then he sees a trail of blood from behind the counter to the back door and he immediately calls Sheriff Art. I think. I think the way to pronounce it is Schley, schley is Schlee, schlee, art, schlee. So while he was waiting for the sheriff to arrive, he seized the receipt for antifreeze for Ed Gein, and that was the last purchase. So he knew Ed had been hanging around a lot lately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right around that time.
Speaker 2:So Art Schlee he was a new sheriff in town, by the way, I don't know if he was new in town, but he was new to the force and so he brought along the chief deputy, arnie Fritz. Well, frank tells them that you know, ed was the last person in here. There's a receipt showing it. So we gotta go talk to Ed. And they were skeptical, though, because they're like Ed Really, because this guy, he was very like. I said, like most people just felt sorry for him because he was very quiet, he worked hard. He worked harder than I mean, like anybody could depend on him. He was babysitting people's kids.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, but they go up to the farm anyway. But Ed kids, right, you know what I mean, but they go up to the farm anyway, but ed's, he's not there. Ed was at irene and lester's house enjoying a nice supper of fried pork, chops, boiled potatoes, macaroni and pickles. No, because I was. We ate pickles with everything. Yeah, that must be a farm thing, onions with everything.
Speaker 1:oh yeah, we had onions, we, we had onions, we had pickles, we had cornbread. That's it. And then beans, and beans.
Speaker 2:Beans and some type of meat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, a little bit of pork. Throw something up in there.
Speaker 2:Pork or chicken Sometimes beef.
Speaker 1:We still had some of that Appalachian German shit's too in our food, the kraut and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we love that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love me some kraut.
Speaker 1:We need some kraut soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can make some tonight with some sausages. Oh, we're doing fish and shrimp, never mind, yeah. So there was already a commotion in town once you know the police arrive and they see that Ms Warden's missing and Bob Hill, he wanted to know what was going on, so he asked Ed to drive him. Well, while Ed was waiting for Bob in his car, the sheriff pulls up and asks Ed just to give a little rundown of what he had been doing that day, and then they asked him to repeat it. Well, the second version was just a little different from the first, and this was a tactic that they would use to repeat it. Well, the second version was just a little different from the first, and this was a tactic that they would use to see if somebody was being truthful, and if it was different, they would automatically like suspish.
Speaker 1:Red flag, red flag, yeah.
Speaker 2:And they said uh, ed, that second time was just a little different. And then Ed immediately said uh, somebody framed me Now you're guilty, like just out of nowhere. Admission of guilt. Yeah, and they were like framed for, framed you for what, eddie, we're just?
Speaker 1:chatting here bud.
Speaker 2:And he replied while saying well, miss Warden, she's dead, ain't she? Oh?
Speaker 1:now.
Speaker 2:Miss Warden's death had definitely not been confirmed. She was just missing at this point. And they were like Eddie, how do you know that? And he said well, I heard she was missing and I assumed someone was going to pin it on me. They took him right to jail, Okay, You're fixing the layout.
Speaker 1:I am Fucking layout. Ain't you, I am. You're fixing the fucking layout. The fucking layout.
Speaker 2:Ain't you, Ain't you, I am you're fixing to fucking lay out the fucking layout, ain't you, ain't you? Well, while eddie's in jail waiting for questioning, I can't even look at you right now, I'm sorry. Archley and another sheriff, they go to the farm and, like I said before, there is no electricity at this farm and it is that night, so they find a way in through the summer kitchen with flashlights. Now, a summer kitchen is historically significant. It is a detached building used for cooking and preservation.
Speaker 1:Right, something caught on fire while you're cooking. It'll burn the fucking house, right yeah?
Speaker 2:And I mean I had to look it up and I had heard of these things, but I wanted to confirm that that's what that was. Yeah, so, art, he backs into something, he turns around and he shines his flashlight and there is Bernie's warden's decapitated body Ah, hanging upside down with a crossbar in her ankles and ropes Like a deer or something. Hold on, I'm getting there. And her torso was dressed out like a deer or something. Hold on, I'm getting there. And her torso was dressed out like a deer.
Speaker 1:Oh, why am I picturing this Lindsay?
Speaker 2:Lindsay Well, these guys, they immediately run outside and vomit profusely. Okay, I mean, they knew Mary Warden, bernice Warden. Excuse me, mary Hogan, bernice Warden. They knew Miss Warden, like they. I mean, they knew Mary Warden, bernice Warden. Excuse me, mary Hogan, bernice Warden. They knew Ms Warden, like really, I mean, this is, and they're, they're, they're looking, I mean art bumped into her, you know.
Speaker 1:Right, oh, ooh.
Speaker 2:Fuck, but they keep going. They had to, and they start cataloging, long into the night, of horrors that they would probably never get out of their head for the rest of their life.
Speaker 1:Oh, who would?
Speaker 2:They go on to find this is going to be a long list. Okay, whole human bones and fragments. A wastebasket made of human skin. Human skin used as a poultry on several chairs. Skulls mounted on his bed as bedposts bowls that he ate his fucking pork and beans out of made from skulls. A corset made from a female torso from the shoulder to the waist so that the boobies were still intact.
Speaker 2:It was made to be put on like a vest. Leggings made from human skin, nine face masks made from female face skin, a tin can of chewed up Wrigley's gum I had to throw that in there because it's going to get worse. Then they found Mary Hogan. Her face skin was in a paper bag Fuck. And her skull was in a box.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Lindsay, this is so fucking I got to break it up. Can I break it up for a?
Speaker 2:second yeah, because we got a lot more to go.
Speaker 1:I wonder if Goodbye Horses was playing in the background.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Well, I haven't even got to that part yet.
Speaker 1:I was early on the Goodbye Horses. Well, we'll bring that back later. Okay, I'm trying to break this up because I'm fucking dying here.
Speaker 2:So I'll point at you when you can just start singing that shit okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, start singing that shit, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay. So they found four noses, a lampshade made from skin of a face, a drum, a can of yellowed dentures, bracelets made of organs, a collection of fingernail clippings, nine vulvas in a shoe box One had been painted silver and the other and another one had been salted A young girl's dress and the vulvas of two teenage girls. Well, what they suspected to be, two teenage girls, um, and this one's pretty famous A belt made entirely of nipples, entirely A fucking nipple belt. Nipple. You didn't know about the nipple belt, I didn't know about the nipple belt.
Speaker 1:No, oh, this is the house. Come on in oh.
Speaker 2:A pair of lips on a window, on a window shade drawing.
Speaker 1:You can grab them and yeah, oh.
Speaker 2:Then they found the rest of Bernice Between two old mattresses in the summer kitchen. Her head was inside of a burlap sack and her heart was in a plastic bag in front of the potbelly stove, and her heart was in a plastic bag in front of the potbelly stove. Rip to these sheriff's dreams and mental health Like, oh my God.
Speaker 1:I'd have been like I'm fucking quitting, I'm done. I'm not checking this out, dude, I'm done. Somebody else better do this shit. This took them like six hours and this was all in the dark, all in the dark, all in the dark with flashlights and flashlights and kerosene lamps, but then to find it in the dark in this fucking creepy old farmhouse well, this was somehow even more horrifying to them.
Speaker 2:They entered the bordered up rooms that his mother had used and they were in such pristine condition where the rest of the house was that of nightmares. Like Ed was a hoarder, he was nasty, I mean, not only were there literal women's, body parts everywhere, but there was trash and rot and he didn't take care of himself.
Speaker 2:He didn't, I? I mean just everything was nasty. Everything was nasty the windows, like there could. There wasn't even moonlight shining in the house because the windows were so grimy and then they walk into these rooms that were like the epitome of every fucking horror movie that we've seen. No, I'm saying well, I mean her, but her rooms that he had bordered up like it was like her bedroom and a parlor and another room Perfect Because she was really clean. That was one thing that goes through Dude.
Speaker 1:this is so fucking horrific.
Speaker 2:It's like garbage and carnage and fucking rot. And this is yeah, this is like well, this is what's unsettling, because you watch horror movies and you tell yourself, oh, this isn't real. But guess what it's like? Five movies five that I know of are based off this very real story.
Speaker 1:Anybody do the house that's all fucked up with the corpses and shit everywhere, with the nice pristine rooms, and be like why is that there? Have you seen that, though I don't remember. Do you remember seeing that All the clutter and carnage and shit? I'm going to there like have you seen that, though I don't remember. Do you remember seeing that, all the clutter and carnage and shit, and then I'm opening another drink before we finish okay, I mean I need three, but like, so they need to do that.
Speaker 1:I don't remember seeing that in any horror movie where you just you're walking through the whole the house of horror.
Speaker 2:No, but that would be a good, you'd be like what yeah, yeah, what, just like I mean of there was like a layer of dust. It had been over a decade since she died.
Speaker 1:While we're breaking real quick. I just got introduced, inducted into a thing for iconic, a film guild thing. This dude just put me in it because one of our songs was in a movie and he put me down as like a contact for songs. Oh, hell yeah some of the bands that, uh, we've been playing and and sharing on here there might there might be an opportunity to get your band in a movie. Yeah, I got a whole bio send me your scariest songs.
Speaker 1:That would be great in a horror movie yeah, I'll send you my link, because now I'm part of like a contact for getting songs and movies.
Speaker 2:You're a first guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just happened, Holy shit. Thank you, Chris. I was in one of his movies Independent Film but now I'm a contact throughout Hollywood. It's that big, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's really fucking cool. What the fuck? I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 2:I just wanted my band to be part of us and he's like dude, you got all these cool bands that you're sharing. We already hit these bands up and put them in movies because metal is great for horror movies. Fuck yeah, I mean, just I mean, it's perfect, yeah independent metal is like one of our favorite artists has literally made songs from horror movies. Ice nine kills. I mean they don't need no plug-in, but god damn, we love them so much like.
Speaker 2:But if we can grab a tragic or defy the time and put them in a movie.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that band made songs about horror movies.
Speaker 2:But metal songs are great to put in horror movies the best movies have metal music in them, Like our DNA right and then Rob Zombie.
Speaker 1:I mean so many fucking cool ass movies, have some badass music in it, and then we've got to talk about Rob Zombie movies.
Speaker 2:I mean, so many fucking cool ass movies have some badass music in it, and then we've got to talk about Rob Zombie movies. I mean, he literally made a movie based off of this guy that I'm talking about right here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, he did All right, get back at it. I'm not trying to talk about myself here, shit. I'm going to the plant, though, because I'm picturing too much right now. I'm putting it in a horror movie theme, though, because that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, I have kicked off spooky season. We'll just put it that way. So, after like six hours of going through this real life house of horrors and I need to remind you this was 1957. And what do we talk about? All the time there were no good old days, motherfuckers, because this was happening during a decade that is literally labeled as, like you know, leave it to beaver type shit.
Speaker 1:Right, and this is the route for the change of horror movies. I mean, you got out of Nosferatu and shit like that. The change into slasher horror really gory shit happened right after this. It really did.
Speaker 2:Well the sheriffs. They go to the nearby town of Watoma where Ed was being held. They had been hopeful that he would just confess to everything, but instead he had just been really silent. I mean, this is a very sick man. I mean I do not. I need to make this very clear. I do not sympathize with this man's crimes.
Speaker 1:Never.
Speaker 2:But I definitely sympathize with the way he was brought up. I mean, that's it, it was just, it's hard and you know, I mean a lot of people grow up like this and turn out just fine. I do know that. But this, I don't know why, but this really saddened me as well as horrified me all at the same time.
Speaker 1:Every bit of this yeah, but I almost feel like there was no way out for him other than be into this crazy psychosis of humanity right and then his way of coping with it fuck, it was this well and and I mean in absolute honesty, I, I don't, I don't blame this man for coming in.
Speaker 2:Sheriff shalee, like he was so traumatized that he just walked in there and started beating the shit out of ed, like after six hours. How do you get it out? Yeah, he just started beating the shit out of Ed, like after six hours. How do you get it?
Speaker 2:out yeah he just started beating the shit until they pulled him off of him and unfortunately this made Ed shut down like even more, because he is a very sick man. Yeah, and I've struggled typing this shit out, so I can just understand how Art, how Sheriff Schlee, felt. So this shit out, so I can just understand how art, how, you know, sheriff schlie felt. So, uh, I I can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like to be the person or be the team of people that went through this house and discovered in darkness, no power, the stain small town.
Speaker 2:Never, never, I mean, they've dealt with some shit. They had disappearances in this town. They've dealt with blood and and farming accidents and shit like that. But this is a whole different level. So after about 30 hours ed finally started talking. He admitted to killing bernice warden, but he did say that he didn't remember all of the details and for most of the ordeal he was in a disassociated state. And the same with Mary Hogan Now with all these body parts. They of course assumed that these were all murder victims, but they were not. Ed explained that he had been grave robbing for quite some time and the body parts were of those who had already been deceased. He said he would get uncontrollable urges to dig up these bodies and mostly do so in a disassociative state. But there were times when he would just snap out of it and he would rebury what he had dug up in what he would call apple pie order oh, what the fuck is so that it was an old-timey uh term for you know.
Speaker 2:He put it back the way it was supposed to be oh, like he had even you're living in it, it's your house, but he but there were times that he literally took bodies back and put them back in, and put them back in reorganize reorganize it. Yeah, so Very, very sick man.
Speaker 1:Very sick man yeah.
Speaker 2:This story went global and necrophilia was mentioned and cannibalism was mentioned. Because people OK, so it was. You know, it was discovered that Mary Warden's heart was right by the stove, so that automatically, people started saying, oh, he was going to cook her heart, but it's going to be confirmed that he didn't do these things. Okay, people could not, they couldn't wrap their mind around this. What was the motive? Truth is, there really wasn't one. This is just a very sick man who had been subjected to severe abuse and so much isolation and had adored his mother so much that, well, he wanted to become her and when he would put on that skin suit, he would be her, and he would admit to putting that skin suit on when there was a full moon and dancing around his farm goodbye, horses flying.
Speaker 1:But he wouldn't say I would fuck me, because no, he would be a harlot yeah, and he definitely yeah but with all the the vulvas and the vaginas laying everywhere.
Speaker 2:So I'm gonna talk about. He was a harlot, but he would also even though he really wasn't singing goodbye horses, because that wouldn't come out for a very long time, but he was playing the drum that he had made.
Speaker 1:He was wearing A human skin drum.
Speaker 2:Bing bing bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, Dancing in the moonlight in his skin suit, with his wiener tucked, could you imagine? If somebody just happened upon that, and that's what made me think okay, listen. Now I know these other people that went missing were never linked to him.
Speaker 1:I don't want to horrifically laugh right now.
Speaker 2:But listen, those three guys that were lived near him. What if they came upon this? This is just me speculating. This is not true, this has not been, this has never been discovered, but I'm speculating. What if those three men because you know, men weren't his MO whatsoever? What if those three men who just happened upon him dancing in the moonlight in a skin suit, everybody playing the drum? Because these guys were never found?
Speaker 1:yeah, ever found he probably just took them the fuck out and then took them out like of his play.
Speaker 2:He had 155 acre farm. Yeah, there's plenty of play with them.
Speaker 1:He just took them out, yeah but like that is never.
Speaker 2:Those men that disappeared were never linked to Ed. That's just me speculating, speculating wildly, joan, count us out, Fuck. So Ed was polygraph tested to see if he had indeed eaten any of the body parts or performed necrophilia, and it showed that he had not. Now polygraphs are inaccurate and they are not admissible in the court, but we're gonna hope that this was true not that it sheds any fucking moonlight on the whole situation, but either fucking way now he said the dissection of the deceased bodies had been a thing of interest, because he had been interested in going into the medical field, which this is horrific.
Speaker 2:But that makes me so sad because Augusta probably would have never let that happen.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, she fucking kept him under her wing. First of all, I have four sons.
Speaker 2:I have four sons. I don't want to isolate any of these kids. Get the fuck out. I love you, but get the fuck out. You know what I mean. I love you, but get the fuck. I mean who wants to keep their kids at home in their 30s and 40s.
Speaker 1:I want them to have dreams? Yeah, all of them.
Speaker 2:Yes, if you want to be a doctor, by God, go for it, yeah. If you want to be a pro basketball player? Now I do get it. He was.
Speaker 1:He is badass at basketball oh yeah, but all we asked of him? No, well, we asked him. We told him college first. I'm like you, can't. We told him. I said son, you've got you've got.
Speaker 2:I mean he was a d average kid. We love him so much and he tried so hard. Yeah, we all everybody in this house we all have learning disabilities, um, in different areas. Like I was a straight A student, but when my ADHD got really, uh, really bad when I was in about I want to say, middle school, early high school, I mean it went downhill from there for me and it was really hard for me and I ended up dropping out and getting my GED. But I passed my GED with flying colors, except for the math part.
Speaker 1:We just had to try it, Like you and I just had to try a little harder. We did our things. You know we have things, but we did our things, we tried hard.
Speaker 2:But it was still an absolute struggle and I just remember certain subjects, some certain subjects I just breeze through, but other subjects, like it was like and I see that in Silas now, when I try to get him to do math like it's, it's like a shutdown and it's yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we, we were giving him a structure. You know, in Dalton's sake. We were like you still have to graduate high school and go to college. They're not going to get you out of school right now and make you a professional basketball player. And then we're like your physical things are holding you back too. He's flat footed.
Speaker 2:He's flat footed. He's a short white boy, yeah, but he is amazing at basketball.
Speaker 1:He is amazing at basketball. I mean, it could have happened. It could have happened, but he had to set himself up for all those to meet his goal and we supported all that. We just told him the real shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were just trying to be real for him that it may not happen.
Speaker 1:But if you do all this, it could happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, ed. He also said that he never had any relations with the bodies because the smell was too pungent. The polygraph proved also that he could not be linked to any of the other mysterious disappearances in the area, even though the vulvas of young women were found and clothing and shoes belonging to other possible males were found in his home Right, but they weren't like from graves type clothing Didn't look like right. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's still some mystery here, the forensics back then too. You know Right, there's a whole different fucking aspect.
Speaker 2:Well, and after they took pictures of everything in the home, they went ahead and disposed of it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to burn the fucking house down? Yeah Well, we'll get there, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, ed, after the press had been begging and begging and begging, ed was allowed to go through his house with reporters to give a room by room tale of all of his horrific acts. So before going to trial, ed had been officially diagnosed with schizophrenia and he was sentenced to life in a psychiatric institution. He was first sent to Central State Hospital for the Criminally Insane, which is now the Dodge. It's either Dodge or Doge, I'm going to go with Dodge. Dodge Correctional Institution. And he was later sent to Mend mendota that sounds familiar mendota state hospital.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I typed it out, but I don't. I'm like did I type that right? So we're gonna say mendota state hospital? He died of lung cancer on july 26 1984 at the age of 77. Jesse, we were two years old when I gained died. I was two years old when Ed Gein died I was two years old, you were three. Isn't that wild? I like I don't know what it is in my mind that, like, I associate Our livelihood, our livelihood, serial killers.
Speaker 2:Because it's wild to me, because you live in a small world, you live in your own little world of your family.
Speaker 1:This actually happened while you were alive, jesse, but this happened like why?
Speaker 2:you know, because we grew up to believe that everything was wonderful before we were born. We, I mean, and it was not, and I'm like I want to, and you know, like my parents would just absolutely remember the mats and execution.
Speaker 1:That was a big thing while we were alive. I mean, uh, ted bundy fucking Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 2:We're going to do that for our 100th episode. Ted Bundy is going to be a big deal because it hits real close to home around here. I don't know if I'm all right, I mean, but we got 50 more episodes to go. Yeah, before I cover him.
Speaker 1:We hope you guys really have been enjoying our podcast. By the way, we were. We were just talking about that and you know just the time and effort that we're putting into all this and just sharing the content.
Speaker 2:I'm getting good feedback from people that are listening.
Speaker 1:At times I don't enjoy it. I've got to be fucking honest with you, fucking Lindsay, over here. I've got to be fucking honest there, bud, but still, at the same time, I'm enjoying being able to put this out. Have the opportunity for me and you to, because I mean other than what's on the mic that you're hearing. You know, lindsay and I, really this is a good connection for us in our relationship too.
Speaker 2:So it's it's it's a good thing that we're sharing these horrific things, because we do believe somebody is going to take something from this and it's going to save their life one day is going to take something from this and it's going to save their life one day and I hope so, because listening me being a podcast listener has opened my eyes and it has also made me more aware of my surroundings and it hasn't made me paranoid by any means, but it's just made me more aware of surroundings, because that's kind of a main staple really behind everything that we're doing here.
Speaker 1:You know, if there's something that happens and get yourself out of some kind of situation that we're talking about, one person out of this, I'll do this shit for the rest of my life, right if it says one person you know. So that's a positive that I can hang on to and I can take it. Lindsey, I can take it for that point. Now I might walk away and cry like I did the last time because you broke me really bad.
Speaker 2:Well, there's some coming up. We'll see what you say then, but we're going to, we're going to, we're going to have a few.
Speaker 1:I'll take it on the chin for it, though, take it on the chin, ok, well, all right. So I'm here for you.
Speaker 2:The Gein Farm was going to be auctioned off in 1958. That's just one year after this happened, right, and rumors were spreading that it would become a tourist attraction. But it just so happened that the Gein house burnt to the ground right before the auction, and since the fire chief was Frank Worden, bernice Worden's son, it wasn't considered a matter of urgency yeah, leave that motherfucker there, let that bitch burn let her burn.
Speaker 2:Well, over the years, people wanting to collect souvenirs from the butcher of plainfield that's what he would be nicknamed uh, they have chipped away pieces of his gravestone and I will be putting the picture of that in our stories, where you can literally see pieces of his gravestone chipped.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that iconic, they're gonna get something and in 1959, the fictional novel based on ed gein called psycho was published, and then alfred hitchcock made a film about it, which was remade in 1998, and that, of course, of course, the character based off of Ed was Norman Bates. And then you have Leatherface from Chainsaw Massacre, buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs, and this one I did not know about. Also, garland Green from Con Air was inspired by Ed. Really, that's my favorite character in that movie, because it's Steve Buscemi, you don't remember? Oh my God, do we have to rewatch? Con Air was inspired by Ed. Really, that's my favorite character in that movie, because it's Steve Buscemi, you don't remember? Oh my God, do we have to rewatch Con Air? We have to rewatch.
Speaker 1:Con.
Speaker 2:Air. His face has a whole blank. You guys, we have to rewatch Con Air. I've watched Con Air an unhealthy amount of times Because I used to be. I mean.
Speaker 1:I'll give it, I'll give it Teenage Lindsay. But that was 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:You know, teenage Lindsay had this weird obsession with Nicolas Cage Very weird.
Speaker 1:OK, we can do it.
Speaker 2:It started with Face Off and I literally watched everything that that man put out. And then you know where the obsession ended. The National Treasury, one, what's that called National Treasury, national Treasury?
Speaker 1:one. What's that called National Treasure, national Treasure.
Speaker 2:Those bored the fuck out of me, not me. My Obsession with Nicolas Cage ended with those films. Fuck, really.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed that, but then I'm still in the treasury he just came out with.
Speaker 2:Renfield. Me and Jesse re-watched Renfield twice in one day. We fucking loved Renfield. You're back. Jesse rewatched Renfield twice in one day. We fucking loved Renfield.
Speaker 1:You're back, You're back bud, you're back. Yeah, no, I love it all, but I can't really recall all the little parts and pieces, Lindsay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so Garland, we haven't watched it together.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have.
Speaker 2:We have. We've watched it together twice, are you sure? I swear to God, maybe that's the two times that I've seen it. I was obsessed with that.
Speaker 1:Enablerated or regular breed?
Speaker 2:I don't know Well, it was in the early years of our relationship and Jesse has a terrible memory, but OK. So Garland Green was played by Steve Buscemi and he was the character who was chained and in shackles and had the whole Hannibal Lecter face thing. Yeah, he was the really bad guy in that one and that's Buscemi, that's Buscemi.
Speaker 1:Oh, crazy Eyes, Crazy Eyes, yes.
Speaker 2:So the song Skinned by Blind Melon was about Ed Gein. Wow, and also Nothing to Gein by oh my God, mudvayne.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And then Tech Nine also mentions him in the collaboration that he does with Falling in Reverse in the song Ronald, which also features my boy, alex the Terrible. And now the whole reason why I've covered this this week On October 3rd, just a few days from now, charlie Hewnan will portray Ed in the third season of Monster, the Ed Gein story. Wow, so I had to go, I had to cover it.
Speaker 2:It's a circle, it's a circle, it's a circle, and I am really excited because they did a really good job with Dahmer, to the point where it was hard for me to watch that shit. Oh yeah, and we haven't even covered Dahmer yet.
Speaker 1:We actually stopped. I stopped I stopped too. Yeah, I stopped.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, you guys listen to this and then read the book Deviant by Harold Schechter. He also wrote the book that I listened to about Belle Gunness, which was called Hell's Princess. Please listen to that book, okay. So listen to us, listen or read. Listen to or read the book Deviant and then watch Monster the Ed Gein story with Charlie Hewnan man.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of the shit that we didn't cover just in this story. No, there's a lot. No, there's so much.
Speaker 2:There's so much and there's a lot more backstory. There's a lot more forward story, like in harold schecter's book. Three hours more after his last, after he was found, after he was found out, everything was.
Speaker 1:There's three more hours of story shit, so yeah, you can get all the way to gilligan's island in that fucking story a three-hour tour.
Speaker 2:But that, ladies and gentlemen, was our 50th episode, the coverage of Ed Gein. And oh my god, I can't believe I got through that. That one was hard for me, I ain't even gonna lie you did the damn thing and you held on like a champ.
Speaker 1:I'm so proud of you mostly you did it, lindsay, thank you for dragging me along, and thank you guys for following along, because we got more to go right. Yes, you know what the cool thing about it is, though. Whenever I do that little cheer thing for you, I get to play music. You do.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm here to do. He's like okay, bitch, you've got your claps, Now it's my turn. What band are we plugging today? I have a really cool band. Oh, I'm excited. All right, let me go ahead and get my phone out so I can search them on the ground Really cool band here, Lindsay. All right, I'm pulling up Instagram right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Morphide M-O-R-P-H-I-D-E Check it out Everybody.
Speaker 2:And what is the song that we're going to be listening to?
Speaker 1:They're from Latvia, europe, and this song is called Mayhem Lindsay and you better fucking hang on. Okay, I'm excited, we'll be right back. Guitar solo. Thank you, there's no way in good turn around Overriding All my strong. But now we understand that we're inside the end To shine my soul, like the pieces of broken glass Stuck in a dust, reflecting in hearts and defiles. Shine so bright, shine so bright. We choose to suffer. Yeah, yeah, wake up, we are alive. We're down inside Down in a heresy Blending to death. Thank you, we are the only ones who we cling to the past and this country's got a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living in this day and age and we have a choice. We're living.
Speaker 1:Wake up, be alive. It's the time to say Wake up, be alive, begin to fall down. Nothing's over my way. Stand aside in silence. All the money instead of silence. Begin to fall got nothing. All the money instead of silence, begin to fall. Got nothing All the money. Instead of silence, begin to fall. God bless you all. Son of God, well Lindsay.
Speaker 2:Fucking hell. Well, lindsay, love them so much. Oh my God, follow this amazing band on Instagram so many, and they have links to their Patreon, their music, their merch, their live, their shows, everything right there, morphied. They have a new song out, also called Denial. Check that one out as well. I loved you guys. I'm going to be listening to more of your shit, as I have most of all of our bands that we have featured on this podcast.
Speaker 1:Yes, we love all the bands. So if you like all the music, check out our little back porch party that we just put out. All the bands are on there for the first 50. Well, except for this one, but still, you can check out all these bands we're going to this one will kick off our second season supporting yeah, so we're gonna um.
Speaker 2:This one will kick off our second season supporting, yeah, so we're gonna keep supporting bands, we're gonna keep sharing. We've traversed the globe now and, yeah, hands and music and it's been. It's been an amazing year-long journey with finding new. Yeah, uh, talent that we haven't heard of so many well, some of them we have, some of them we know and we have listened to a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I've played with and I say we sometimes, because if you're working to merge, you're part of the band, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to say 40 out of 50 bands that we have featured we have never heard before. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:It's awesome to be able to share that, and that's our palate cleanser behind all of that, right, we?
Speaker 2:get behind all of that right that we get to share music. And you know talent and you know what I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm still, I'm down to do comedians, I'm down to do anything. Poetry we'll share your art.
Speaker 2:You know, absolutely, we love it all. Yeah, we love it all, love it, love it. And if you have a play like a community theater play that you want us to come attend, we're down. We love that shit. We need to do more of that also.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you can tell a little backstory about your play real quick and a narrative behind it or whatever Summarize whatever you got going on.
Speaker 2:Come join our podcast Because we love us some theater we love the theater. I made Silas watch Hamilton yesterday.
Speaker 1:When I came in, yeah, he was watching it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to get on to him, of course, when I came home, because, well, he had, he had had a rough week but he had had a really rough week and, um, I don't know, he's the fourth kid baby he's the baby and, uh, I'm older and I wanted to seclude him to his room for the rest of the day, but I'm like you know what, I let him sit in there for an hour yeah and he played piano and shit like that. And then I was was like you know what? I want you to watch Hamilton, because not this? I didn't want to make it as a punishment, I wanted to make it as an assignment, yeah.
Speaker 1:History. This is about Alexander Hamilton.
Speaker 2:And also, lin-manuel Miranda is a genius. He wrote it. He plays Hamilton Fucking hell. It's great, it's great.
Speaker 1:You're on it.
Speaker 2:You're on the Hamilton stuff right now, Well fuck yeah, do you know, it took me and I don't know why, but it took me two really good watches of Chicago to lock into my absolute obsession with.
Speaker 1:Chicago I'm not there yet. I like the history. I'm not there yet. On Hamilton.
Speaker 2:But it was also that way with a couple other musicals that I love. But it was like I had to go back to it. And I've been that way with Hamilton. The first time I watched it we were kind of distracted. We were dozing in and out, we were just kind of having a lazy day in bed that day. And now I've watched it two more times since.
Speaker 1:So we'll see how I am in a few months from now. I'll probably be fan geek girling like you over here.
Speaker 2:I'll be fan geek girling like you over here? Yes, Well, and then I also, and then I I want to do the skit with you now.
Speaker 1:And then it'll be like not even cool anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, no, it's always going to be cool, yeah, but you know the whole, the whole skit you've been talking about.
Speaker 1:It's on like social media and stuff. You're like you you even said it today You're like I'm willing to do it. I'm like this song won't get out of my head. Okay, what is it? How's it go? Go ahead, do it. You know you want to do it.
Speaker 2:Alexander, come back to sleep. I have an early meeting out of town. It's still dark outside, I know. I just need to write something down, yeah. That's in my song, that's in my head, everybody that's what's been going on in my house all the fucking time. And what's so cute is lin-manuel miranda loves it. He, I mean, how could you not? You put this art out into the world. And now there's a whole huge trend on tiktok of women dressing up and and men are doing the ladies?
Speaker 1:Some of the dudes are playing, not some of them. They're all doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1:I will never see people popping out of shit, laundry baskets and shit Just fucking going into the dryer.
Speaker 2:I will never scroll past a Hamilton tick tock. I'm never, I could never disrespect that.
Speaker 1:All that I'm going to watch it. I guess that's you know. A lot of people bounce back in in good ways because just like I'll never skip a chicago, something as crazy as this shit here, or go through some kind of drama or trauma or whatever, they can bounce back. If you got something you can bounce back from and be healthy.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know you do your thing well not too long ago, there was a whole chicago trend with oh yes, oh yes yeah, I remember that one, they both reached for the gun. The gun for the gun. I'm about to break out into dance right now. So, with that being said, yes, we're going to go ahead and sign off, because we got a whole back porch party to do for our 50th episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and we're going to be grilling and chilling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're recording ahead of time the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, All the good stuff. Thank you, lindsay, thank every single ear that our podcast has made.
Speaker 2:Keep listening, share us, because we love you and we hope you love us and we hope you're in yours. And I mean, you know what? If you don't think that you have time to listen to a podcast, you do Put your earphones in. Clean your house, exercise, do your laundry, go on a road trip those are all fantastic. Go on a walk.
Speaker 1:It's perfect. It's perfect, yeah, and it makes it go by so fast. I know Our whole trip, as you're hearing this. Now we're in New England.
Speaker 2:Literally. We are literally in Washington DC.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're just doing our thing. I'm excited to keep cracking on here. Lindsay 50 and.
Speaker 2:I really want you to listen to the rest of Damien Echols' book. I want to do some honorable mentions of the books that I've listened to.
Speaker 1:That's what we're going to be cracking on this trip.
Speaker 2:Damien Echols' life after death needs to be heard.
Speaker 1:We're going to have some cool shit to share with you next, because we're literally staying in an iconic house that is just true crime.
Speaker 2:True crime, true crime, yay, yes.
Speaker 1:Up and down. We're going all the way up to Maine and back, so Eastern Seaboard Wow, a lot of driving Bucket list. So come with us.
Speaker 2:We'll do it all the time. Check Ivan bucket list.
Speaker 1:So come with us all the time Check out all of our stuff, socials everywhere, the, the website, just just just come along with us and share us, because we want to build right. That's what we want to do.
Speaker 2:Lindsay Samba, jesse Samba. Uh, drink about something. Pod underscore Lindsay on Tik TOK. We're drink about something on Instagram. Drink about something that site all your platforms, anywhere you subscribe to listen to music. Our podcast is there also.
Speaker 1:And everybody has YouTube and all these bands Everybody has it and YouTube in your face. It's Gen Z.
Speaker 2:We're even on Audible. Yeah, we're on everything Ever online.
Speaker 1:So J-E-N-D-S-E-Y on YouTube, you got us Boom, that easy.
Speaker 2:So we'll see you guys. So much Thank you for this journey. Thank you for coming along and we'll see you next week. Yes, bye.
