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EPISODE 52: Amityville: Murder, Myth, and a Marching Band
The most infamous Dutch Colonial in America didn’t start as a horror franchise—it began with six bodies found face down in their beds. We pull back the curtain on 112 Ocean Avenue to separate what’s on the record from what was engineered for the spotlight. We walk through the 1974 DeFeo murders, Butch’s shifting stories, the courtroom battle over insanity and “demonic influence,” and the sober verdict that anchored the case. Then we follow the paper trail a year later, when George and Kathy Lutz bought the house, called a priest, and reported a barrage of phenomena—3:15 a.m. wakeups, black water, flies in winter, levitation, a hidden room, and a red‑eyed pig named Jody—that mapped perfectly onto a page‑turning horror arc.
From there, the story scales: a proposed book deal with the DeFeo defense attorney, a richer contract with Jay Anson, and a best‑selling “true story” that minted the Amityville brand. We revisit the Warrens’ televised investigation, the eerie “ghost boy” photo later linked to a team member, and the quiet counter‑narrative from subsequent owners who report no hauntings at all. Along the way, we look hard at the incentives that shaped each chapter—legal strategy, media profit, and the cultural hunger to turn tragedy into legend—while acknowledging the real horror at the core: domestic violence, addiction, and murder.
This conversation blends true crime rigor with folklore literacy and a healthy dose of skepticism. If you care about the difference between police files and polished scripts, if you’ve wondered why Amityville still trends decades later, and if you want a clear view of what’s documented versus dramatized, you’ll feel right at home here. Hit play, then tell us your verdict: hoax, haunting, or something more human in the shadows? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves true crime, and leave a review to keep thoughtful stories like this in your feed.
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Hey Jesse.
SPEAKER_03:Hello, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_06:How's it going, Lindsay? You doing okay, Lindsay?
SPEAKER_07:That was uh what? Was that your um impression of Ed Geen from Char Char I always want to say Charlie Murphy, but it's Ryan Murphy's monster. Ryan Murphy! Ryan Murphy. What the five fingers say to the face. Roll that intro.
SPEAKER_05:Happy Friday. I just wanted to say happy Friday to everybody.
SPEAKER_03:Great week.
SPEAKER_07:Stop.
SPEAKER_01:I'll stop those things.
SPEAKER_07:Seriously stop because that is the worst part of the whole fucking series. It's terrible.
SPEAKER_04:I think I'm gonna talk like that from now on, dude. Never for Ever Moa. What?
SPEAKER_07:Well, um Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I think it'd be great.
SPEAKER_07:I don't know. Well, I'm gonna start talking like Augusta.
SPEAKER_05:That's even hotter, dude. Oh, we would have gotten married years ago. Augusta. Harlan!
SPEAKER_06:She's a Harlan! Okay, Mom. I'm sorry, Mama.
SPEAKER_07:Man, Lori Metcalf did that shit though. Fuck. I bet you know, all I can picture is her on the phone talking about her dad. Dad's dead! He's dead! Your brother broke my heart. That's not what he said. No, what she said. Oh. Oh, that's not what she said either in that in that episode. She was calling her aunt, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean later on.
SPEAKER_07:Trying to say that her dad's dead and her aunt can't hear her. I think it's her aunt. And she's finally like, Dad sends his love. Because she could not. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up Lori Metcalf from Roseanne. Like it's the most popular Aunt Jackie, the most popular line of the entire series, or the most popular scene.
SPEAKER_05:I think we really love Aunt Jackie. We love Aunt Jackie, man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:She and Lori Metcalf has or Metcalf has played some other iconic roles, small ones, but they're iconic. Like she was in um one of my favorite episodes of Dash Bear Housewives. Like, yeah. She crazy. She's crazy. So what are you drinking today?
SPEAKER_05:I got a bourbon that I bought. It was like single batch barrel bastard bourbon. Oh, I forgot the name.
SPEAKER_07:That's what it was called. Single batch barrel bastard bourbon.
SPEAKER_05:Single batch barrel bastard bourbon. Gonna put some Milani peach in that bitch.
SPEAKER_07:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:This is how we roll.
SPEAKER_07:Oh so we have we've been recording all afternoon. We did recap of Lizzie Borden. We did recap of our road trip. We took a break. We went to Chili's and got a triple dipper and some steak and shrimp. Man, the triple dipper. The triple dipper. With a Nashville hot cheesecake, cheesecakes, cheese sticks, the Southwest Egg rolls, and Nashville hot tenders. Whew!
SPEAKER_05:The steak was good, and the shrimp was good, and the Long Island was good, and this is good, and we're all doing good. What are you drinking over there, Miss Lindsay?
SPEAKER_07:I've got a natural lime in my koozi right now, and I've got raspberry for backup. Vista Bay, of course. Aldi.
SPEAKER_05:You know, when you say raspberry, I always say raspberry parade, but it's beret. It's beret. I know, but I say I say parade because it's like a parade of raspberries.
SPEAKER_06:Raspberry parade, but it's berade.
SPEAKER_05:We were just talking about that because I what did I say?
SPEAKER_06:I'm at the second hand store.
SPEAKER_05:I was opening up the studio on here to record. And I was like, Stew, Stew Studio. She's and Lindsay's like, you know it's Susu Studio, right? I was like, well, duh, I watched American Psycho, but you know how much, you know how much shit we got wrong, dude, in songs? We didn't have Google.
SPEAKER_07:We didn't have Goog.
SPEAKER_05:Does that make you feel old?
SPEAKER_07:Well, and we didn't have Spotify to give us the lyrics either. Like, that's the great thing about Spotify. You just swipe up, you got the lyrics, man. Spotify.
SPEAKER_05:We didn't have it. I'm glad we do now, though. So what did make you feel old? Because you normally ask me, it's your turn first.
SPEAKER_07:So this week, I really uh I have no complaints. Nairn? None. Everyone. No, like I got so we got back from our trip. I, you know, we got busy on the laundry. I went to work on Sunday. Nope, felt great. Monday, what?
SPEAKER_05:No, I was just just thinking of what made me feel old before you said that.
SPEAKER_07:But like I had a great week at work. It was slow. I didn't like that part. Um, but I still made some money, and uh we got up every day this week and went to the gym, except yesterday, because I wanted to clean the house and dye my hair. I got up early. I was done with the housework by like 11. You told me that. You're like, I'm kicking ass all the time.
SPEAKER_05:Kicking all the ass. Me, my week went by pretty fast. I mean, I was just playing ketchup. It was a stack of paperwork. You just kind of went there and showed up. You didn't have backlog shit to do.
SPEAKER_07:You know, I'm a server.
SPEAKER_05:Unless they had like backlog people waiting at the table.
SPEAKER_07:Where's my god dang grits? My my all my regulars are happy to see my face again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So now I think um I wrote down something over there.
SPEAKER_07:You said that sneezing makes you tired. And you have a thing and you do. When you eat, you sneeze like 20 times, and it feels like a workout.
SPEAKER_05:Stupid.
SPEAKER_07:Jesse digests his food by sneezing.
SPEAKER_05:Swear to God, is that a thing?
SPEAKER_07:Sneezing like he's possessed by a demon.
SPEAKER_05:But I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna say that, but I wrote it down. I was I was I think I'm actually experiencing like our and maybe it was all the white knuckle driving, you know, on our trip and everything. Yeah, you'll be all right in a week or so. And then I did all that uh typing and logging and shit like at work, like so much, just going. Like, yeah, and then we had band practice and everything.
SPEAKER_07:Had to get back into the guitar playing.
SPEAKER_05:We got a show.
SPEAKER_07:I know we're gonna have to feature Shadow the Earth.
SPEAKER_05:No, we'll have to record a new song before we do that.
SPEAKER_07:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_07:Well, you know, Nadira won't care if you play her recorded. The older stuff, the older. I want to do that.
SPEAKER_05:I want to do a fresh new fresh. Okay. I mean, and then I'll just be like, you can also check out the the legacy of our previous singer. So but we're playing with Galactic Empire.
SPEAKER_07:That's that's gonna be so fun. Yeah, which this is a a Star Wars band.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they're like Star Wars theme, and they dress up and do the thing, dude.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I've been following them for a couple of years now. Holy shit.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I think the tickets are like$30 to get in that bitch. And that's a lot for a local show, you guys. So this is epic Gainesville show, November 7.
SPEAKER_07:That's more than that's more than I paid to see Ginger for the first time and Slaughter to Prevail for the first time.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I can add up like the first four bands that I seen, and and it still wouldn't be that that much. But yeah, yeah, yeah. So November 7th, anybody in Gainesville, come check us out. Or in the surrounding area. At the Wooly. At the Wooly. Yes. Scott Woolly. We'll be opening up, of course, because you know, we're no Galactic Empire, but we're gonna shadow the Galactic Empire.
SPEAKER_07:Scott Woolley. That's a reference from um, I think it was the very, it was the second to the last or the last season of Will and Grace. That's who Jeff Goldblum plays as Karen's uh love interest.
SPEAKER_05:I haven't played at this venue, so it's cool.
SPEAKER_07:I'm excited. I think that's right. Scott Woolley. Yeah. So, um, anyways, we're back. We have done all the recaps. We have unpacked, got back into our routine from our trip, and we have watched. Well, we're almost we're we're halfway through the very last episode of Ryan Murphy's monster Ed Geen story.
SPEAKER_05:Which is a montage that I'm seeing of shit that I'm not supposed to know a whole lot about.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I had to send him outside. So we're also grilling for our meal prep for the week, and I had to send him outside because this last episode features some killers that I haven't talked about yet. And uh he had to go. I'm like, go because they're on my list. Get up. And one of them, like, did shit here in Lake City. Mm-hmm. Well, you know about him. But yeah, but fuck. So stay tuned for episode 100 where we were.
SPEAKER_05:Lindsay, I found out where her grave is. Kimberly's grave. I know exactly where it is.
SPEAKER_07:Well, yeah, y'all keep listening. I mean, we got lots of cases to cover, but uh the end of uh, well, the the beginning of season three will be all about the Ted Bun B.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but we do a hometown thing at least once every season. So we have a new hometown thing coming up probably in a few episodes. So check out.
SPEAKER_07:But it won't be it won't be Ted.
SPEAKER_05:No, it won't be Ted.
SPEAKER_07:I'm not ready for Ted. Ted bothers me. I'm not gonna lie to you. Like I am callous as fuck, but Ted still bothers me, as you've seen.
SPEAKER_05:I know things, but what I've just seen right there is too graphic for me already. So I don't know when he puddled on that deal. I mean, I know what he did.
SPEAKER_07:Well, you and I watched like two or three uh documentaries about him and one movie.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but like the deep dive in all what you're gonna find.
SPEAKER_07:You didn't watch the tapes that featured some of our locals when they came out. It was about 2020-ish, 2021.
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. Well then don't.
SPEAKER_05:If I did, I don't remember it, but I'm I'm sure I didn't. I'm sure I didn't.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I was talking to you about them because um a person that we know was featured on there. So yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So when we do that though, should I look up one of the bands I used to play with? Because I think their dad was one of the prosecutors or something. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this is Ronnie Round, right? Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Ronnie Brown.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:And I even got a cool song called Helter Skelter for later on, too, that we can put on something.
SPEAKER_07:Fuck yeah. So many bands are coming in.
SPEAKER_05:That for sure. For a case. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Um, which, yeah, I've got I've got shit lined up.
SPEAKER_05:I got shit lined up too. For gears. Hang on, wait a minute. We got shit lined up.
SPEAKER_07:We got shit lined up.
SPEAKER_05:Clackety clack.
SPEAKER_07:Clackety clack. Don't clap back. High five.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_07:So I'm gonna change up my little spiel here because we're in a new season. So shit. If you have not listened to us before, and this is your first episode hearing Lindsay Stambaugh, Jesse Stambaugh, in our little uh in our little podcast here, Drink About Something, uh, what we do is we have a couple of drinks, and I tell Jesse a crew trime, a crew trime. I've been drinking, uh, a true crime story that he doesn't know either anything about or very little about. And uh, so his all his reactions are completely organic. And then at the end of the episode, he features a band that is up and coming that we do have permission to play on this podcast. So, no suing is in the future.
SPEAKER_05:We get permission. As far as we know, as far as we know. There's a couple of bands that have made fame already.
SPEAKER_07:I know, but they're not gonna sue us because you got permission.
SPEAKER_05:So broad up with them on the old uh interwebs.
SPEAKER_07:Yes. Yes. So we have uh we you go back to our backlog if this is your first episode. We have talked about um Corpsewood Manor. We've talked about the McMartin Preschool, we have talked about the West Memphis Three, the Salem Witch trials, and uh things of that nature. I will mention some more cases in future episodes that are in our backlog, but go back. Those are the beginnings. Yeah, those are beginnings of us.
SPEAKER_05:I think we started our season two off right.
SPEAKER_07:We did.
SPEAKER_05:Oh my god. I timed that really good, didn't I? Did you?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Fucker. Yeah, so she puddles me. She really does. Like I get checked.
SPEAKER_07:I'm gonna let Jesse talk. I gotta grab a refill.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, well, you're on the hot mic, Linz. Linz, you're on the hot mic. I know. So we we also do videos and things on YouTube and such, and we break away and go pee and hang out and you know, play catch with the dog, and we don't have a dog, but still we do things. I'll be out there mowing the lawn while we're doing it and shit, and just fucking doing a podcast. Lindsay likes to get up and pee like 19 times. Listen, she's making it a new thing. I'm good.
SPEAKER_07:I'm back, and I'm gonna crack open my Raspberry.
SPEAKER_05:Oh. I'm not gonna sing the song now because I was saying it wrong.
SPEAKER_06:Raspberry parade.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna let her destroy me. She's got this fighting. Are you ready? I'm gonna let her today.
SPEAKER_07:We are talking about 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, New York.
SPEAKER_05:So that does sound familiar to me.
SPEAKER_07:How does it not sound familiar to you?
SPEAKER_05:Okay, Amityville, okay, okay. I'm looking at him very coarse. When you said Amityville, this shit started clacking up in my old rattle brain up here.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:You know what I'm very upset about?
SPEAKER_05:Don't, don't, well, I don't know. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_07:That we didn't go the 112 Ocean Avenue and but it's well, there's reasons, and you're gonna talk about some of those. Yeah, but and also it's it's been re-addressed, and I do want to respect the uh the the current owners because we're gonna talk about what happened there and um other events. Well, there's two it's two stories and one today. You get two and one.
SPEAKER_05:Things, things, and things.
SPEAKER_07:You get a twofer.
SPEAKER_05:Awesome.
SPEAKER_07:All right, so 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, New York was a Dutch colonial home that was built around okay, so I've heard between 1925 and 1927. So we're gonna go with that in between those two years. It is located in a canal or at a canal, had five bedrooms, four baths, a boat house, a heated swimming pool, and was known for its windows that look like uh it's looking down on you. That's luxury with eyeballs. I know. Well, you remember what Amityville house Amityville House looked like, right? Yeah. Okay. Well, in 1974, this house was occupied by the DeFeo family. They had lived there around uh nine to between nine and ten years, and there were seven members of this family, okay? Ronald Sr., who was 43, Louise, who was also 43, Jesse, they are heir. That just made me feel a little bit. I'd yawn on that one. Uh Ronald Jr., who was 23 and went by Butch, and Don, who was 18, Allison was 13, Mark was 12, and John was nine. Whole fam damn. Whole fam family. They were seemingly a tight-knit, very devout Catholic family. And uh Ron Sr. worked for a car dealership owned by Louise's father, and Butch worked there as well. Little family business. As usual, behind closed doors, there were there were some problems. Butch, he had some issues with heroin. He regularly took LSD and had an anti-social personality disorder. He liked to fight and cause a lot of problems. He had a very tumultuous relationship with his dad and like had even tried to kill him previously. Holy fuck. He partied hard and he liked to bring his friends back to the house without permission, and that caused a lot of problems as well. Like duh.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. I mean, all of shit. Thank you.
SPEAKER_07:It was said that he was pretty creepy as well, and he resembled Charles Manson. And I did look up his picture, obviously, in my research, and they are correct. It's alleged that Ronald Sr. was very overbearing as well as physically and verbally abusive to the family. And when he was feeling guilty about it, he would go pray to a statue of St. Joseph that was in his yard and uh ask for forgiveness.
SPEAKER_05:It made it all better.
SPEAKER_07:Made it all better.
unknown:What the fuck?
SPEAKER_07:Well, so this I'm gonna kick you right in the ass at the beginning.
SPEAKER_05:I'm already seeing this. This is fucking horrible. Like, there's all kind of issues going on, dude.
SPEAKER_07:On the night of November 13th, 1974, around 6 30 p.m., Butch came running into a local bar and uh he shouted, I need help. Um, I think my mother and father have been shot.
SPEAKER_06:I think I need help.
SPEAKER_07:So a few of the patrons uh piled up in his car or a car, I'm bel I'm I'm assuming it's his, and they went back to 112 Ocean Avenue, which was very close to the house, like right around the corner, okay? They went inside, they did discover that yes, Ronald Sr. and Louise had been shot. One of Butch's friends, who was named Joe Yeswit, made the call to the Amityville Police Department. When the police arrived, they searched the rest of the house and found that every single member of the DeFeo family had been shot and killed, and they were laying face down in their beds.
SPEAKER_05:Lynn Z.
SPEAKER_07:Every single member.
SPEAKER_05:Lynn Z.
SPEAKER_07:I'm not laughing at the situation. I'm laughing at Jesse's face. It's a whole fucking murder house now. Well, you you didn't we've watched movies about this. And but fuck. I didn't remember this part, did I? No, because there's not a movie about this part. There might be.
SPEAKER_05:I don't remember seeing the.
SPEAKER_07:There's a movie about the next part that I'm gonna talk about, but we gotta get through this. We gotta get through the DeFeo family first.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, we're gonna hear just come on, fucking get me. Here I am.
SPEAKER_07:Now, Ronald Sr. and Louise, they had both been shot twice, each to the back of the head, while all of the other children had been killed with one single shot each to the back of the head. And this was done by a 35 caliber Lear action Marlin 336 rifle. Am I saying that right? Yeah, okay. It was determined that they had all been killed around 3 a.m. The witching hour. Remember that time? Just saying, remember that. And uh Butch told the police right away that his father had mob ties and that he thought the killer was most likely a mob hitman by the name of Luis Fellini. Uh Louis Fellini, not Louise. Louise is the mother, Louis Fellini. Now, quick side note that I did not write down. Um Louise DeFeo, her father, was also known to be part of a mob family as well. So at first, this seemed kind of legit. Father, father. Upon further questioning, though, the police started to feel like Butch was full of shit and started to become more suspicious of him.
unknown:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:So they kept him overnight. They found Louis Fellini and he had an airtight alibi. He had actually been out of the state at the time of the murders. So Butch would end up confessing to his entire family's annihilation later on the day of the 14th. He said um that he just picked up the wife picked up the rifle and went room to room and shot every single member of his family.
SPEAKER_05:Because of the way it was done, it did look like from what you told me. Right. A little like somebody from the family, somebody close that they knew.
SPEAKER_07:Right. So let me get uh let me get through this part and then I'll go to the little back the day, the prior days events. So his exact quote was once I started, I just couldn't stop. It went so fast. That was his exact quote. So then he had showered after he had done this, and he picked up all the shell casings and disposed of them, his bloodstained clothes, and the rifle in a nearby canal, and then went to work as normal.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, he didn't even go to the bar then.
SPEAKER_07:No, this is 3 a.m. He didn't go to the bar until 6 30 that evening.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_07:It's 3 a.m. I must be lonely.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it's 2 a.m. Sorry.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that's 2 a.m.
SPEAKER_05:I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_07:But um, so yeah, he goes to work where his father should have been at work as well. Where his grand that his grandfather owned. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Fact. Fact. You already got me turned sideways now already.
SPEAKER_07:So it's believed, but not proven, that the family was drugged because why wouldn't at least one family member wake up when the sound of a rifle going through the house is being, you know, just bam, bam, bam.
SPEAKER_05:And that's a sure enough rifle.
SPEAKER_07:Now the autopsy showed that Louise and Allison may have been awake when they were shot, but it's still a very great area. They were still all face down, every one of them. So Butch's defense lawyer's name was William Weber, and his defense was that Butch was insane and had no memory of committing the murders, and this was supported by the defense psychiatrist named Daniel Schwartz. But they also said that there was a demonic presence in the home that was telling Butch to commit these murders. But I thought he didn't remember. You know what I mean? Like, how is how can he say You can't relay that and use that because he's how can they say that somebody is telling him to commit these murders when he doesn't remember doing them? He's basically saying that he did them in a disassociative state, which you don't remember. But a lot of them will do that shit. Oh, I know that amount of shit. I know, but just remember that, okay? Remember demonic possession. Now, the prosecution psychiatrist, Dr. Harold Zolan, said no. He was very aware of his actions. And on uh November 21st, 1975, Butch was found guilty on six counts of second-degree murder. Six counts. That's a lot. When you sit here and you think about that, six dead bodies, that was a funeral that six caskets were present at the same time. That fucks that fuck with my mind a little bit, like sitting here thinking about this. And I just couldn't imagine.
SPEAKER_05:Horrific. Yeah, horrific.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, I gotta take a drink on that one. My mouth's right.
SPEAKER_05:Take a drink on that one because you need to take a drink on that one.
SPEAKER_07:Ugh.
SPEAKER_05:Ah.
SPEAKER_07:Whole fam damnly, dude. Now, Judge Thomas Stark said that Butch's actions were, quote, the most heinous murders committed in Suffolk County since its founding.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:The most.
SPEAKER_03:I get it.
SPEAKER_07:Ronald Butch DeFeo Jr. was sentenced to 25 years to life in Sullivan Correctional Facility in Fallsburg, New York. Upon appeals and later interviews, Butch would try and blame his sister Dawn for the killings. And that he had killed her as a res a result of seeing what she had done.
SPEAKER_05:He was the daddy issues. I mean, right.
SPEAKER_07:Well, he talked awful about his family. He said that his dad was abusive, his mother was a lousy cook, that Dawn was a trigger warning, a fat bitch who listened to insert racial slur here music, and that his little brothers were sloppy pigs. It was said that he held a lot of animosity towards all of his siblings because he felt like they got away with everything. But 25 to life, Lindsay. That's it. That's it. Are you kidding me? I mean, I'm I'm I'm gonna go. He he he'll stay there. You better stack some more shit up on that one. Fuck. Now he would say that it was Don and an unknown assailant, and that he had accidentally killed her because they had fought over the gun after he saw what she had done. Like that was another story. He will have many, many stories. You can look all of these different things that he set up. Um, I just I'm limited on time, and I'm putting two stories into one today because there were quite a few happenings at this house, even after all this happened. Okay. So his appeals would be denied, and he would die in prison on March 12th, 2021, at the age of 69. So let's reflect real quick. This man, he was 23 years old. He says, he is first saying that um basically that he just hated his family. Then uh then a demonic presence in the house talked to him and told him to do these murders. Then he will say, you know, that Don committed them and then he killed her. Then he'll say that Don and an assailant did it. Uh, I mean, there's just there, there, I mean, like I said, there is so many. He changes his story a lot throughout the years to really try and get him out.
SPEAKER_05:Anybody and whoever would listen, he was spilling it.
SPEAKER_07:Right. God. Uh, but he does die in prison. So obviously, nothing that he said got him out. Now back to 112 Ocean Avenue in 1975. Butch DeFeo is now in prison, and it's been just a tiny bit over a year since the murders, and the house is on the market. So George and Kathy Lutz, they were looking for a new home in in the in the area, and they wanted to be near the water.
SPEAKER_05:I bet they found that shit sheet.
SPEAKER_07:Well, we'll we'll you'll see. So George was the owner of a Long Island surveying company and wanted to find something in the area that was big enough for the family of five that he is now married into. They had recently just gotten married in July of 75, and Kathy had three kids from a previous marriage. So they're a total of five, okay. Daniel was the oldest at nine, Christopher was seven, and Melissa was five. So we got Danny, Chris, and Missy. So their budget for a new house was between 30 and 50 grand. Okay. They looked at, I mean, many, many houses, like over 50. Okay. And uh their realtor was like, hey, I got this property on the market.
SPEAKER_05:I got a deal for you.
SPEAKER_07:At 112 Ocean Avenue.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And they loved it. Because he wanted like he wanted something on the water. He had uh George had boats, it had a boathouse, it had a wet bar, um, it had all the bedroom space that they needed. It had everything. Checking off all the good ones. And if you look up this house, I mean it's fucking gorgeous. Yeah. I don't know if y'all have watched Amityville. I don't know if you've looked up this house before in the past. Very nice home. And it was in the perfect spot because, you know, water was there. All of it.
SPEAKER_05:Everything.
SPEAKER_07:Everything George wanted, everything Kathy wanted. The only problem was it was listed at$80,000.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, so it wasn't a steal. I mean, for the size of the house, it was a for the size of the house. But yeah, I was fixing to go there because all the amenities. This Place has everything.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. All right, Stefan. It has everything. It has everything. It's got the water.
SPEAKER_05:It's got the wet bar.
SPEAKER_07:It's got all the rooms. He's doing the whole stuff.
SPEAKER_05:All the murders.
SPEAKER_07:Shout out to Bill Hater. We love you. It has everything.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know how to sound like him, but I'm doing like the cover, the nose, the face, you know, the whole wow thing.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my God. I can't even think of which um Stefan's. We need to watch some of those later. Bill Hater. Bill Hater and uh and fucking what's his name? Seth Rogan. No, it's not Rogan. It's not McFarland. I think you're good. Green. No, it's not green either. Oh my god. Hey Google. Who hosts late night? Seth Myers. Seth Myers.
SPEAKER_05:Seth Myers, yes. Seth Myers. Seth must have been a really popular name at that time. There's a whole Seth around that.
SPEAKER_07:Well, I mean, we saw his picture at Rockefeller Center. I can't believe I forgot. I've been watching Seth Myers since SNL like for 20 something years.
SPEAKER_05:We already know that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But yeah, yeah, we should have known that shit right off rip, dude. Yeah. Stephon.
SPEAKER_07:Stephon skit Seth Myers on uh was it weekend update? Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05:Not too long ago. We did.
SPEAKER_07:And Seth Myers' picture was right there along with Kristen Wig and Will Farrell and Jimmy Fallon. Oh, it was fabulous. Okay, so back to the Lutzes. The house was listed at$80,000. And even though their budget was between$30,000 and$50, they were like, um, why uh why is this house so cheap?
SPEAKER_05:Because it should have been more like$180,000. Yeah. For that time period.
SPEAKER_07:Right. Yeah. Now, oh we're going to have to talk about$1.5. You know, talk about what kind of house what is in New York? Whew. They did, you know, like I said, they asked, why is this so cheap? And even though it's way out of our price range, why the fuck is it only$80,000? And the wit realtor, she told them, uh, she told them the truth. She said there were six murders here just a year ago. And uh the murderer said that the the the house made me do it.
SPEAKER_01:So fuck.
SPEAKER_07:And there were still there were still bullet holes and chalk lines in this house. Come on, dude. But the Lutzes, they weren't spooked at all. And they put their offer in and moved in December 18th, 1975. The murders had just happened in 74. November of 74. So this is a year and a month later. Couldn't even paint and spackle the bitch before you put it on sale.
SPEAKER_05:Little bit of paint and spackle bud.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, you can get an eraser and erase some chocolates.
SPEAKER_05:A little, a little, a little bit of rouge on that son of a bitch before you put it on.
SPEAKER_07:And for 400 extra dollars, they got all the original furniture from the DeFeos.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, how fucking sweet was that?
SPEAKER_07:Lindsay. Lyn to the Z. Listen, I'm not the Lutzes. Now, I was in a very haunted house in a very haunted town just recently. Which I mean, in New York City, there's what, at least five deaths a day.
SPEAKER_05:Every block or some shit happened. I even told her like after we got back, I was like, you know that hotel that we stayed at?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I'm glad you did tell me that after we got back. Not that it really probably would have bothered me. No. Because I mean, shit, I know New York City. Like, I'm not stupid. But I stayed in a house where two people were hacked to death with a hatchet, and I stayed in the town where how many people died?
SPEAKER_05:Gettysburg.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, in battle.
SPEAKER_05:I'm not talking about like natural deaths. Battle and and the wounds, and then the death from the wounds. Was it like 50 something people? Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And I grew up that was I grew up in the house that my grandparents both died in. So I'm not new to this, but at the same time, I don't know if I would go into a house that is beyond my budget.
SPEAKER_05:Knowing that.
SPEAKER_07:Knowing that six motherfucking murders happened in this house and there's still bullet holes and chalk line in there. I I don't know if I can do that. My limits may just throw a rug over it.
SPEAKER_05:It'll be all right.
unknown:Right?
SPEAKER_05:This is a good spot to put the couch we just bought that somebody died on. Well, just covered up with that, right?
SPEAKER_07:Well, um, so the Lutzes claimed that they weren't very religious and they really didn't believe in the paranormal, but they still wanted their personal priest, not religious, okay, but they had a personal priest, and they wanted him to come and bless the home. Is that just somebody they met that gave them a business card or something? Well, you watched Amityville. No, I'm just saying. That priest went through fucking hell, man.
SPEAKER_05:You just seen him on the side of the road and handing out Bibles and a business card.
SPEAKER_07:No, apparently, this priest had been there for their marriage and for because George adopted all three of Kathy's kids and they took on his last name. And uh, I guess the father was okay with it. Now the priest, he got the major ick, like insane ick, um, when it came to this house. And uh, but he went ahead and he blessed it anyway. He went he went around blessing it from rim to rim. And um, where the two young DeFeo brothers had, you know, had been killed, he heard a voice behind him saying, get out. That's in the movie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:This is this is not documented by any law enforcement, anybody other than I just want to say that up front.
SPEAKER_05:So is this like an inspiration between that and the Haunted Mansion at Disney World?
SPEAKER_07:Jesse, this is the Amityville horror. I know, but we watched it, you and I together. But I watched Haunted Mansion, and that's the first thing that you hear when he walks in.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah. Right? Same thing. Could be, it could be. Same thing. Same.
SPEAKER_07:So, um, anyway, so if you've watched the Amityville horror movies, you you you're familiar with this story. And like I said, every account that I'm about to talk about was said by the priest and the Lutz family. It is not documented by anybody else. I just want to put that out there, okay? But even though after he heard somebody yelling at him to get out, he finished the job and he also respectfully declined an invitation to stay for dinner. Come on now. He didn't tell George or Kathy about the voice. He just he just peaced out. But other alleged paranormal activity would start happening pretty fast after they got settled in. Now, the priest would go through some shit like anytime he would just think about this house, he would start to get ill. Anytime that the Lutzes would call him, or vice versa, the connection would die.
SPEAKER_05:You're not have Sage going all the time. Right.
SPEAKER_07:Well, see.
SPEAKER_05:Maybe they didn't use Sage.
SPEAKER_07:I'm jumping ahead of the gun here. But I honestly think, not if any of this is true, which most of it has been dispelled, but we're gonna talk about it. Um maybe they shouldn't have gotten it blessed because we'll we'll get there. We'll get there. I'm gonna I'm gonna just pause right there. Okay. On December 19th of that year, uh 75, George woke up at 3 15 a.m.
SPEAKER_05:The devil's hour. Well, it's the witching hour.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, don't put devil in the craft.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, whatever.
SPEAKER_07:Um he to what he thought was a very oh now I've heard it was loud knocking at the front door, and I've also heard that it was knocking in the boathouse. So one of the two doors, they were being loudly knocked upon. But then when he went to investigate, he was like, Okay, no, that's not the front door or the boathouse. Where is it coming from? So he went to see if the kids were making noises on the second floor, but no, they were asleep on their stomachs, by the way. And uh something was moving outside, like he saw it from uh it was the sewing room. It was now the sewing room, which had previously been the DeFeo boys bedroom. So he something caught his eye from outside, and it was the figure of a man. And Harry, the family dog, he started to go crazy and follow the shadow, but he was chained up, so he could only go so far. Poor baby. He was chained. I don't like that. I don't like chained up dogs. Me neither.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I have an animal that I put him along a rope.
SPEAKER_07:Especially outside in New England. Come on, man, it's cold. Yeah. In December, shit. Um, and after Harry went crazy barking at him, uh, at the shadow, it was gone. Now, no police were called, no documentation was made. If I had seen a figure outside my house, you better believe I'm calling. Hey, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Hello, police department. Can you come? I don't know why I'm talking British.
SPEAKER_06:Can you come and search the perimeter of my property? Something's going on at my house.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, don't stop it!
SPEAKER_07:It's kind of creeping me out a little bit. I don't know what to do about it. Once again, that is Edgeen from the Edgeen story. That is not how Edge talks. Come on, dude.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, so did I. They didn't portray that right, but it was cute. Come on, dude. They didn't have to be a good one.
SPEAKER_07:It made him very oh yeah. It was a brilliant production, just not very accurate. Yeah. Sorry, this is hot.
SPEAKER_04:We uh I can't get it out of my head.
SPEAKER_07:I know, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:We've been watching it all week. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:So after this night, okay, George himself, he started to act strange. He started to be mean to the kids, very short-tempered. And this was completely out of his character, okay. He loved these kids, he adopted them, he took, you know, he took everything on. They had had no problems up until their arrival at 112 Ocean Avenue. George, he stopped showering, he stopped shaving, he stopped going to work. Yeah, just just became a complete fucking bum. Gave up on life. He gave up on life very quickly, very quickly upon arriving at this house. He just, I mean, everything happened really fast. Now, Kathy, she experienced a complete different type of haunting. She would feel a presence come up and hug her and embrace her, and it smelled very feminine, very perfumey. And um, it's weird, but but not awful. But while she was getting a ghostly hug, how the fuck is that not awful? I don't know. If I if I felt a warm embrace by something perfumey, I'm be like, hey girl.
SPEAKER_05:No, you would love it if as long as it's pumpkin spice or some shit.
SPEAKER_07:You'd be like, okay, girl. All right. Come on, let's hug, girl. So, like I said, while she's getting her ghostly hug, her boys start screaming from the bathroom because it was completely black. But like the toilet was completely black.
SPEAKER_05:Like somebody had it was rolling the coal out of the toilet, like black.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, it was black, but it wasn't like poo-poo black, it was just black. You know what I mean? Like a paint or like an oil, you know, black. So Kathy flushed it and flushed it, and it's like the water coming back in is still black. And she had just cleaned this toilet. Like they just moved in, she cleaned it from top to bottom. She they it was said she was a very clean woman. Then another kid yelled from the other bathroom and said that that toilet was also black and was giving off a terrible smell. Could be some septic problems. I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, some old shit was backed up.
SPEAKER_07:Well, I mean that's creepy though.
SPEAKER_05:Fuck, it's creepy. It is creepy.
SPEAKER_03:Some shit gone down.
SPEAKER_07:And then in the sewing room, once again, like I said, which the DeFeo boys had been killed, both windows were covered in black flies. This was in six-degree weather.
SPEAKER_06:Black fly? Death row pardon. Two minutes too late.
SPEAKER_07:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:That's fucking ironic, Lindsay. Don't you think?
SPEAKER_07:I do think because I mean, in Florida, when it gets below 40 degrees here, we there ain't no flies. So I can just imagine in six-degree weather, there's absolutely no flies. Like they dead. They dead and gone. They gone, they died.
SPEAKER_05:It's like rain, dude, on your wedding day. It's a fucking free ride that you already paid. Well, they paid you know a little bit more than what they were planning to pay, but it's the good advice that they just didn't take. And who would have thought, though? I mean It figures. Yeah, it figures.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. So one uh anyway, not one day later, but a few days later, Missy, the youngest daughter, Melissa, but she went by Missy. She told um Kathy and George that she had a new friend named Jody. And Jody was a male pig. Oh, see, and I thought it was somebody else. You saw the pig in the movie.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but I thought it was Jody that took a vacation far away.
SPEAKER_07:I'm on it. I'm done. I'm done. You're done. Jesse's done. We've been drinking since 10 o'clock this morning. So forgive us. That was that's Josie. Oh, yeah, it is Josie. That's my favorite song, man. Oh. Like, literally, of all time, I think. Well, I said it wrong, but you know what? I don't want to lose her love tonight. Okay, so Melissa's got an imaginary friend named Jody. Jody's a pig, and he's a boy. Um Okay. Okay. Did you ever have imaginary friends? Yeah. Really? Tell me about it. I've got I've got room to talk in this episode. I got room.
SPEAKER_05:Tell me. I don't remember a lot of it because apparently it creeped me the fuck out later on, and I got rid of it. And that's probably a reason why I get rid of traumatizing or crazy things in my head. I had one called Bigelow.
SPEAKER_07:Really?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. And was it a gigolo? Bigelow the gigolo. Nah. It was not. Oh, okay. It uh we called him Bigelow, Mr. Bigelow. Is what I called him. And I don't remember a lot about it because I got rid of it because apparently I came to my mom screaming and crying, honestly, about something that he was trying to do and it was creeping me the fuck out. Oh. Yeah, imaginary friend. Best friend for a long time. We had great times, apparently. I don't remember any of it because I got rid of all of it, and it was traumatizing, horrific for me. That's a real story.
SPEAKER_07:I did not have imaginary friends, but I thought it was fascinating that other people did. Now I grew up on a farm and I would talk to animals. I talked to my dog, Zeke. He was my bestie. And I would talk to the cows. I knew that. Okay, so we we got our initial herd on the farm was five cows. They all had names. Now the bigger that the herd grew, the less they had names and the more they became tag numbers. But the initial five, those were also my besties, and their children were my children. Like when they had babies, I was out in the fields. Holding them and playing with them. Yes. Like I had a baby cow. Like that was I could not wait to get home from school, do my homework, call my mom, say, hey, I'm home. Leave me alone. I'm out in the field. Love you bye.
SPEAKER_05:Right. And you come running up with some hay.
SPEAKER_07:I didn't even have to have hay. They came running to you? They were just babies. Now their moms did not like me at that point. Yeah. But they were used to me because I had been around them since they were calves, you know? So, I mean, it's it's surprising that I'm still here to tell this tale because I was stepped on and booked by very, very large cattle several times.
SPEAKER_05:Slamming you in the face. I didn't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_07:I was still gonna play with their babies. I helped give birth to one.
SPEAKER_05:Until death do us part. I'm gonna play with these fucking cows, I swear to God.
SPEAKER_07:I helped give birth to one. Um, so the cow named Kro, her, she was in labor.
SPEAKER_05:After the syrup.
SPEAKER_07:No, it was Kairo after Kro, Georgia. Oh, okay. That's where she was born. Kairo with a K. Oh. Well, I guess that's how you spell Kro syrups, isn't it? Uh anyway, so Kairo, she was giving birth, and like me and my cousin Charity, that my cousins were up from Lakeland. We're just walking the farm, doing our thing, hanging out. We saw two legs sticking out Kro's fajy. Oh we ran.
SPEAKER_05:We ran. Cal's just in there like, mmm.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, well, we and that's not normal. Yeah. Um, so we ran, yeah. Told my dad, my dad calls the vet right away. So we go out, we have paper towels and and and bath towels.
SPEAKER_05:And some antiseptic spray.
SPEAKER_07:We didn't have that.
SPEAKER_05:I know.
SPEAKER_07:We're helping my dad. I I literally witnessed this this child's birth. Lindsay's in the back with her antiseptic spray. We were that baby. We were like six and eight. Charity was six, I was eight. Uh, we were babies, and uh we witnessed a cow's birth, and I became very attached to that cow. Her name was Joy, and she was my baby. Like I loved her. I spent time with her every afternoon. And then when she became of age, my dad um would either my dad had registered purebred cattle, and they were bought and sold for show cattle. And if they did not meet the requirements of show cattle, they were sold to the market, and joy was sold to the market.
SPEAKER_05:Oh.
SPEAKER_07:It took me a long time to eat beef after that.
SPEAKER_05:I bet. I mean, we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, shut up.
SPEAKER_05:What?
SPEAKER_07:Anyways. So that's my little farm story.
SPEAKER_05:That was like life experiences, though.
SPEAKER_07:So I didn't have imaginary friends, but I had animal friends. Yeah, I wouldn't have had nothing but trees. But listeners, if you guys have had any imaginary friends, uh email us about it and we'll talk about it. We'll we'll talk about your little stories.
SPEAKER_05:You got me thinking, you got me thinking about like what really happened for me to get rid of it.
SPEAKER_07:Follow us on Instagram, hit him us, hit us up in our DMs on Instagram, drink about something, or Jesse and Lindsey, Jesse Stanby, Lindsay Stamble on Facebook. We want to hear your stories about imaginary friends because I'm interested. I'm really interested.
SPEAKER_05:Are you bringing back Mr. Bigelow now into my life as an adult?
SPEAKER_07:If it was if it's a horrific, traumatizing story and you don't want to talk about it, you don't have to.
SPEAKER_05:But I gotta pee later on. If my fucking toilet water is black, I swear to God, Lindsay. I'm not gonna make it.
SPEAKER_07:Well, just let me let me uh finish telling the story and see what you think, okay? Now, Missy was talking to George one night before bed. Uh, she was talking to him about Jody and pointed and said, you know what? There he is right there. There he is, right there, Daddy George. And when George looked, two red eyes were looking back at him. A few nights later, the knocking returned, and this time the windows were cracked, and the door came off its hinges. Fuck. From the knocking on the fucking door. And so while so while this is happening, he's now down at the boathouse. I didn't write this in my notes, so this is off the hip. He is down at the boat house, he's checking all that shit out. He looks up into Melissa's window, and there's a pig face with two red eyes looking back at him.
SPEAKER_03:Allegedly. That's a fucked up pig.
SPEAKER_07:But what's crazy is there was no pig in this house prior to the Let's moving in. There was no pig in the DeFeo family.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it could have been like from the property before.
SPEAKER_07:It could have been from the colonial times, but I doubt it. In the house.
SPEAKER_05:Maybe the pig itself was the spirit that was making people do crazy shit. Mmm.
SPEAKER_07:Get you back, bitches for you, but at the same time, there was a knock so hard that the windows cracked and the door came off its motherfucking hinges. And guess what, George? He he didn't call the police. What? He didn't call the police, he didn't call anybody. There was no documentation of this. This is just George's account. Yeah, because I would have been in a different fucking count.
SPEAKER_05:Of stories. I would have been in a different state probably by then, honestly. Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_07:So now, like I said, George, he's become, you know, unkempt, uh, lazy, don't want to go to work, don't want to shower, don't want to shave, you know. And now he's to the point where he's always cold. He's cold all the time. And he's always sitting in front of the fire, like constantly building a fire in the fireplace. He can't get warm. It's just always just in the fire. And this is in the movie as well, this part. And uh one night in January, so they've got they've made it through. I mean, they moved in right before Christmas. They've made it through Christmas. So one night in January, Kathy, she's sleeping right beside George. She starts fucking levitating. Levitating off the bed, and she was carried towards an empty closet. They hadn't filled this closet quite yet.
SPEAKER_05:Lindsay.
SPEAKER_07:George, this is their account. I'm just telling their account. Okay. George goes to this closet and finds that this closet also leads to a room that they weren't aware of that's not in any of the original blueprints of the house. Like, what the fuck? And uh so they go to the Amityville Historical Society to try and get some more information on this house. Like, shit's happening here, but they really didn't say that. They didn't tell anybody yet, still. Uh, but they go to see what what has happened in not you know, not just the fact that there were six murders the year before. What else has happened in this house?
SPEAKER_05:Right. And the area too, I'm sure. Right? They were trying to figure out what the fuck's going on, or were they trying to collect more shit to fucking add more shit. You're fucking dumping some shit on me.
SPEAKER_07:So they were told that the Shinnokok tribe had used this land that the house was built on uh for the sick, the insane, and the dying. It was not a burial ground, like you know, everybody wants to say it was a burial ground. Every this whole fucking country's a burial ground, like if you think about it.
SPEAKER_04:The whole world is.
SPEAKER_07:The whole world is like I said, they the Shannoncock tribe used this area for the sick, the crazy, and the dying. And uh they did not bury anybody here because it was uh infested with what they would call demons. Okay, so and it had also supposedly, uh well, it this is true, um, but it wasn't at the exact land, but it was near it, that um this area where uh John Ketchum from the Salem witch trials had been banished. When he had been banished out of Salem, he moved to this area, and he had been accused in Salem of devil worship and witchcraft. But what have we learned, Jesse? Just from watching the craft and the practical magic. There is no devil in the craft. No, so those two don't go hand in hand.
SPEAKER_05:But they have to put it there. That way they're gonna do it. They have to.
SPEAKER_07:So that's all bullshit too. Yeah. Now John Ketchum was for real um accused of those things, and he was for real driven out of Salem.
SPEAKER_05:Instead of getting fucking hung and fucked up like the the women did.
SPEAKER_06:They just there was a couple of dudes too. I mean, Giles Corey, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, well, still. Fuck's sake. That sounds like a gonquin too, or are not a gonquin. Is that maybe what tribe? Like the native. This is Shinnecock. Shinnicog. So, I mean, dude, I love woodland Native Americans.
SPEAKER_07:Now we did pass by Agonquin area when we were up there.
SPEAKER_05:And they said that that that was the uh the Gonquin nation had several different smaller and we passed over a bridge twice, uh going to Maine and then back down.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. That was um Chicago Cog? No, it was Pin. It started with a peak. It was uh yeah, there's so many cool things. I wish look up all the bridges in New England, we crossed them all. For the love of fucking God.
SPEAKER_05:Every one of them.
SPEAKER_07:No, I'm no, we did not have to go over the Benjamin Franklin Bridge, the Triborough Bridge, or um what was the other one that I was scared about? Oh yeah, you were. Uh there's another one. So we did the Henry Hudson and the George Washington, but we didn't do there was another, not the Triborough. There was another one in uh in New York that I was like, oh no, no, the Satin Island Bridge. Holy shit. But you know what? The Tobin fucking bridge in Boston was that big, and I went over that twice. Yeah. Uh, but I didn't see it like with my own eyes, like it just snuck up on you after you went through the tunnel.
SPEAKER_05:Creep would be creeping.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. The bridges in Boston just kind of came up on me. But like I said, the the whole thing with John Ketchum was false claims. This guy just moved there because he was driven out of Salem because the fucking stupid ass, bored little girls that were supposedly afflicted in Salem had accused him of witchcraft and devil worship. And you got folk tales everywhere. Everywhere. So the Lutzes would continue to be taunted by other, allegedly, uh, by other paranormal activity. And like they were pushed and shoved. They had bleeding walls, slime on the ceiling, and the sounds of a fucking marching band in the living room. Now tell me, Jesse, why I would enjoy the hell out of that. Please, I want a marching band in my living room.
SPEAKER_05:I like to think of it as like our high school fight song.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, and I'm not a gator fan, but the fucking Gator marching band. I was in a marching band, folks. I was I was a band nerd. I played the clarinet.
SPEAKER_05:We had some cool ass marching band stuff in high school, man.
SPEAKER_07:Well, and we love marching bands, period. I do love marching bands. That's the best part of football. Isn't it the best part of it?
SPEAKER_05:The best part of football. Where do I always sit if I ever took you to a football game, like local, like high school stuff?
SPEAKER_07:And what do we get excited about when we go to parades? The marching bands.
SPEAKER_05:No, no. Furthermore, the fucking drumline.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_05:The fucking drumline, fist bump, high five, high five, and elbow rub too. Elbow rub too. We're doing a fucking elbow rub too. Fuck it. The drum line. Is the chits?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Dude playing the quads. You have my heart. Whoever you are. Yes. We're getting married.
SPEAKER_07:Uh I mean, I'll marry him too. Yes. We'll be a thruple.
SPEAKER_05:Dude, chicks, whatever. The whole fucking quad section. They're they're flirting. You know, I kind of like the bass drum too, though. So I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_07:But I mean, like, okay. Okay, the whole thing. This was made, dude. This was made to be a very scary thing, but I do not understand what's scary about that. About a marching band.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I would have been gone though. I'd have been gone when the door fucking fell off, dude.
SPEAKER_07:Black toilet, understood. Flies in six-degree weather on your windows. Really?
SPEAKER_05:Okay. Still, whatever.
SPEAKER_07:Pig and eyeballs, maybe. Being pushed and shoved. Okay, I get it. But a marching band, I would actually find that fun.
SPEAKER_05:The door, though. The door.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, the door.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gone.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I would have at least called the police so it could be documented.
SPEAKER_05:Deuces, man. I'd have been deuces. But on the rest of it, you know, you're kind of like sixes and sevens, man.
SPEAKER_07:So they decide after this, they've only been in the house a month, okay? Less than a month. They decide to go to Babylon and stay with Kathy's mother, not the country, but the city in New York. York that we did pass through. And um so they all get ready to go. They're packed, they're they're they're ready to take off. But guess what? The van won't start. Then a gust, a mighty gust of wind. Uh wait, he so he has the hood up, you know, he's chugging shit out, George's. A mighty gust of wind blew the hood down as he was looking under, and he literally moved his head in just enough time for it to not slam down on his fucking neck. Yeah. So then a hurricane, a whole ass hurricane that's only happening to the let's came out of nowhere. And they had to go running back into the house. While they're in the house, the power went out. It was freezing outside, then it was hot as hell. Inside, they're in, they're literally in Dante's inferno, okay?
SPEAKER_05:You're flipping me too much shit around here, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_07:While all this is happening, they're burning up, there's no power. They saw a black blob in the house. Black blob. Just oozing towards them. No, you're scaring me, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_03:You're scaring me over here.
SPEAKER_07:So somehow, I don't know how they did it, because allegedly, right? They all pile into one bed and they try to get some sleep. Now George and Kathy were on, you know, little rocking chairs in the house. Now, I did forget to put this in my story, but in little Missy's bedroom, uh, where Jody the Pig lived, her little rocking chair would rock all by itself. And you remember that from the movie, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but not to mention though, there's a telephone.
SPEAKER_07:Telephone didn't work. Well, the power went out, Jesse. Back in the day, you couldn't get the telephone to work. Yeah. Because we didn't have cell phones. What are we gonna do? We didn't have cell phones at 75 before we were born.
SPEAKER_05:We're just gonna live, we're gonna, we're gonna ride this bitch out, dude. Well, guess what? What?
SPEAKER_07:At 3 15 a.m., that dang old Marching Man comes back. I want to know what songs they were playing. All I can think about is the high school. Let's call up George. Oh, George is dead. But um, anyways, let's call up some of the kids. They're still alive. They may they may be able to tell us what this martian man was playing, because I want to know.
SPEAKER_06:I want to know where you were playing. Watch out a show.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, no, I don't think they'll even know.
SPEAKER_07:So while the Martian man's playing, then they start hearing demonic voices. So they're hearing Will Ramos in the background with Guttural. I can't even do God. I want to I want to be able to growl like Will, like like Tatiana, like fucking Randy. I want to be able to do it so bad, Jesse. It's that's the only thing I've ever coveted in my entire life.
unknown:Really?
SPEAKER_07:But have you really tried? No, I really haven't. Not like not like them. I haven't put in the work like them.
SPEAKER_05:No. Balls deep tried. What's that woman that always coaches all them? There's an older woman that coaches all them how to sing like that.
SPEAKER_07:No, they were all self-taught.
SPEAKER_05:No, no, no, but they all go to her afterwards. Oh, but to keep it to keep their work. Like Chino and shit was blowing out his voice and Deft Tones. They all went to her, like Randy Blythe.
SPEAKER_07:Uh, I'm gonna find her.
SPEAKER_05:All of them.
SPEAKER_07:I'll pay for coaching.
SPEAKER_05:I'll send you a link, okay?
SPEAKER_07:Listeners, tell me where I can go to learn how to be a metal core singer.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna send you the link, dude. This chick really has showed, and she's an older chick. She's a vocal.
SPEAKER_07:Well, I'm just saying, listeners, if you know somebody else, send me all the links because I want to learn. I mean, I've taught like four chicks how to do that.
SPEAKER_05:I know, but you can't do it. Not that well, no. No. That kind of suck. But I don't go at it passionately like like I want them to, you know.
SPEAKER_07:Right. I'm just saying, you but mo those who teach can't do usually. So you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Isn't that true? It is. Why? Why am I good at teaching them and I'm not I can't do it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:You ain't tried to teach me, asshole.
SPEAKER_05:Uh well, I can't show you.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, uh But anyway, so now, all right, let's recap real quick. They've had a hurricane outside.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the world's gonna be a good one. They've had to come in, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:They have no power, they're burning up. They try to get some sleep, but at fucking 3 15 a.m., fucking marching band comes back, demonic noises in the back. Will Ramos is back there. Um, or or who else? Who else?
SPEAKER_03:Alex the Terrible.
SPEAKER_07:Alex the Terrible fucking uh what's his name from from from fucking what's the band? The the neck. What's his name? Corpse Grinder, baby. Corpse Grinder! Corpse Grinder, right?
SPEAKER_05:Corpse Grinder.
SPEAKER_07:Corpse Grinder, we're sorry, but he's in the background.
SPEAKER_05:Florida is the hub of death metal.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I mean I love itself.
SPEAKER_05:It's just it's where it, you know, it's a big thing.
SPEAKER_07:Higgs wheels and goblin sounds, man, they get my motor.
SPEAKER_05:And what was that band that I just introduced? We bread we butter our bread with butter was the band that I just introduced you to. That bitch is bad. I love them. They were great. They were cool.
SPEAKER_07:I gotta follow them. So, anyway, so that's going on, okay? Marching band demonic voices. Then lightning starts striking in the house.
SPEAKER_05:Oh god.
SPEAKER_07:Lights are flashing, beds are shaking. And then George said, because I guess he was laying down at this point, which is weird because they said they were sleeping in chairs, so I don't understand. So George said that he could feel hooves climbing on his chest. It was fucking Black Philip, man. Black Philip, Black Philip. Now that's a that is a goat, a ram in the movie, which I am not calling a black person Philip. That is a goat. A ram. I guess he is a ram, right? I loved him. That's my dog. I love Black Philip. So then Danny, he sees a face. And then when George looks, he's like, holy shit, it's a large hooded figure pointing right at the family. And he's dressed in white, kind of like, kind of like a member of the King King Kang.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't have that shit up there, man. What the fuck, man?
SPEAKER_07:I don't know. This is just what they say they saw, okay? So this time, they all run for their fucking lives. They get in the van. Guess what? It cranks this time. Oh. And they left. Freedom. And they never returned. They let this house go. Freedom. And you know what? The financial world just doesn't work like that. You can't just be like, this house is haunted and I don't want to pay for it no more. You are financially obligated to that house. But we'll we'll uh we'll talk about that in a minute. Okay, so they go to Babylon, they go to Kathy's mom's house, they're living there, and they end up in California later on. But while they're still over in New York, they uh they do start slowly ta telling people about the events that occurred in the house. And then they were introduced to William Weber. Now, do you remember who William Weber was? I don't know, you make some grills or something. No, Jesse, that was Butch DeFeo's defense lawyer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You said that earlier. Now, like, you know, this is the guy who is in the middle of appeals, and he truly believes that this house had possessed Butch and made him kill his family. So here are some more people that had an alleged bad experience in this house. So he was like, You want to help me? You want to help me uh get this murderer a lesser sentence? And he wanted to write a book about everything, and he promised the Lutzes a 12% profit. And they're all discussing this, you know, drinking wine, they're having a good time, they're at a party. Now, 12% ain't shit, right?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_07:No. When you're looking at when you're looking at the big picture, 12% ain't shit. So a friend of theirs told them that. They're like, hey, y'all, let's if what you're saying is true and you want to try to uh come up from this, 12% ain't shit. So they went with Jay Anson, who actually wrote the book Amityville Horror. Oh. And he gave the Letz family 50%. Whoa. They have come the fuck up. Okay. I mean, like, George sells his business. I don't know the litigation uh happenings with this house. I don't know how they got out from under that. I I really don't, I don't know why I didn't thoroughly research it because I do know that a year later another family did move in. A year later. Um, before that, before uh oh yeah, it was after that, um, channel five did, or before the new family moved in, channel five did an investigation special with Ed and Lorraine Warren. Now, you asked me who that was, which is very strange to me because you know all about the conjuring. Yeah. So they are the literal people who are the subject of that whole universe, that whole conjuring universe. Ed Lorraine Loren. Ed was a uh, I'm doing quotation marks, demonologist, because we're gonna talk a lot more about them in the next few weeks. And uh Lorraine was very clairvoyant. They were a team, they were kind of like ghost hunters, but a little different because they were very religious, also.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah, sounds like a perfect come-up to me.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we're gonna get into that in next episodes to come. So, channel five investigation with Ed and Lorraine Warren and their team, they have a team at this point, who said that that place, the the DeFeo home, 112 Ocean Avenue, had a very dark energy, and they even captured a photo of the alleged ghost of John DeFeo. Now I'm gonna show Jesse this photo real quick. This is the photo that they captured. I want you guys to look it up as well. Okay, that's fucking scary as fuck, right?
SPEAKER_05:I would be the deuces on that deal.
SPEAKER_07:Guess what?
SPEAKER_05:What?
SPEAKER_07:So, I mean, they they capitalized on this for a very long time, but it turned out that that was just a picture of a one of their team members whose name was Paul Bart. Look just like him, probably, right? Poking his head out by the staircase. Yeah, it was just he I mean, they had a team who was all in this fucking house. Gotti. Yeah. But they capitalized this, capitalized on this for a long time, okay, until it was later on debunked. It was completely sensationalized. Well, George and Kathy, but mostly George, uh, they went on to do many interviews after the book release, and then the movie, Amityville Horror, that literally said this is a true story. Cha-ching. Cha-ching, cha-that didn't happen to be the the truth. Um yeah, I mean, because uh what a fucking story, right?
SPEAKER_05:What a fucking story. Yeah. I just knew you were flipping me some shit somewhere here.
SPEAKER_07:Well, the next owners of this house, they were not happy with this book release or the movie release because they were never given a moment's peace.
SPEAKER_05:So now they have like a roadside attraction that's coming to their house at their lower range.
SPEAKER_07:Well, the next family, guess what they said? They said, This bitch ain't haunted. We're good here. We're all gooching. We feel good, no bad energy in this house, and they end up suing the Lutzes for being liars.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, defamation of proper pro property in the house.
SPEAKER_07:Because they're yeah, and they're like, We're not haunted, there's no bad energy here. There's nothing wrong with this fucking house. And guess what? There was many owners in years to come who haven't had any fucking issues.
SPEAKER_05:And you wanted me to go there for what, Lindsay?
SPEAKER_07:Oh, I just wanted to look at it.
SPEAKER_05:That's it.
SPEAKER_07:Well, it's I mean, it looks I mean, I looked at the area and it looks beautiful.
SPEAKER_05:No, the area looks beautiful. The house herself is so accurate.
SPEAKER_07:Because it's on a like a cape type thing, you know?
SPEAKER_05:I get it. I get it. But like, okay, we'd have took picture.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, it was still the subject of a very sensationalized book and movie. And I mean, how many Amityville's have there been since then? Like, and okay, so they, I mean, they lived this next family after the Lutz's lived in that house for about 10 years, and then it's been occupied by three or four more families since. And guess what? They've had no more paranormal activity ever. Now, George and Kathy, they would be in legal proceedings with different people and companies like Sony. Like, they, if people weren't suing them, they were suing somebody else. Like it is wild. You can look up all that lore. It kind of hurt my brain looking at it. So I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna let my listeners look that way. So they would be in legal proceedings until the day that they fucking died. Now they divorced in the 80s, George and Kathy. So like they didn't even make it another 10 years past all this. And um, they but it was saying it was said it was amicable, like they got along still. But the kids who had originally took on the Lutz last name, they went back to their original last name after that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:That's weird. Now uh now they have stuck to their stories throughout all this time, but they were young, impressionable kids.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Like if I mean you feed a kid a lie long enough, they're gonna believe it. Yeah, they're gonna remember it. So we gotta find out as a memory.
SPEAKER_05:They're gonna hit them up, right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I really want to know what the fuck that had to do with with the whole issue. Like, I want to know why the pig and why the marching band were even in the story. Because what?
SPEAKER_05:And I'm sure everybody had to come to this house and walk around with their fucking spirit box to try to find something to well no, because like the the people that owned it afterwards, they shut it down.
SPEAKER_07:Like they changed the address, they changed the windows to where they didn't look like eyes looking out at you anymore. Like they they have done everything that they could do to keep it uh off the grid.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and not to dispel any paranormal activity because I get that, but but at the same time, they've whitewashed the whole fucking.
SPEAKER_07:I've been in a house that has been known for that, and I didn't feel a thing.
SPEAKER_05:No, and they were walking around in their boxes and stuff too.
SPEAKER_07:I'm like, and it was, I mean, even sister-in-law Shelly like posted that it is one of the top haunted areas. I didn't feel shit. I slept really great in Lizzie Borden's bag.
SPEAKER_05:Doesn't it really work out if you keep plugging that, right?
SPEAKER_07:But I mean, it's still cool. I mean, I still completely 100% recommend going there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because everything in that house, other than the now, you know, electric and uh electricity and running water and bathrooms, everything is original. The furniture, it's I mean, and I mean, murders did happen in that house, but I didn't feel any bad energy.
SPEAKER_05:No, and I'm pretty vibing on things like that. I've been around a lot of things. I felt it in Gettysburg.
SPEAKER_07:You felt it in the bird, dude. Yeah, felt in the bird, bro. Um, but like I said, like the the kids stuck to their stories, and uh Daniel and Christopher have both put out their own documentaries as well. Now, Melissa, she stays out of it. Um, so you know, I mean, you've pretty already told me. So I put here in my notes, like, what are your thoughts? Listeners, tell me what your thoughts are. Like, I would really love some feedback on this because I think it's bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Horrific murders did happen in that house. I do not believe that there was any demonic spirit in that house that told Butch DeFeo to do that. I think that he was just a spoiled little shitty ass dude who was had daddy issues and stuff like that. Daddy issues. He got all the shit. Yeah. He uh yeah, I believe he had mental illness within himself because, like I said, he had already tried to to harm Ron Sr. in in the past. He uh, oh, I didn't put this in my story either. He was part of like he had gotten another member of the car lot or another employee of the car lot to commit uh robbery. Fuck like a deposit robbery.
SPEAKER_05:He was just a walking toxic he.
SPEAKER_07:He was a spoiled brat.
SPEAKER_05:He had and he felt like he was the demon.
SPEAKER_07:Um, but he was a spoiled brat, and that's just how I feel about the situation. That is my own personal opinion. Shitty dude.
SPEAKER_05:Just a shitty dude, we've seen it who did a horrific.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, grant a motto.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's it, I mean, it really just we're finding things to contrast against it. Yeah, you can find it everywhere, you know?
SPEAKER_07:All the way to a spoiled kid who could not ever get enough. Yeah, could not ever get enough. Like you're still living at home at 23, you're taken care of, you have a job, you have a job in the family business, and you want to rob your family. Yeah, like I will never understand things like that. We've got I had an ex-husband like that.
SPEAKER_05:Too many times already on here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And I don't, I don't, I do not understand stealing from the people who are your own bread and butter, who provide your lifestyle for you. I don't, I don't get it. Like, what is wrong with you? Right. You know, and I mean, even Lizzie Borden did that shit. I believe that she stole out of boredom with her own life. Her thing. But no, she didn't steal like the deposit that uh Butch DeFeo stole with his coworker, who, you know, unfortunately, this guy was just drug into it. He was probably like, well, he's a DeFeo. I don't want to fuck with, you know, it was like 18 grand. Fuck. Yeah, Lizzie didn't steal like that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. No, she was a little aerial.
SPEAKER_07:This stuff isn't in the end.
SPEAKER_05:That's what you said on that pod. That was so epic.
SPEAKER_07:So tell me, so listeners, give me some feedback. Tell me what your thoughts are on the, you know, the whole DeFeo Lutz family lore. Because it is, I mean, it is actual fact that no other family had any paranormal problems after the Lutz has moved out, period. And I really want to know how they got out of that purchase.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You know? Now George had to sell his whole fucking business and everything, his family business, surveying company. Right. And when they moved to California, but he started making money off of everything else.
SPEAKER_05:He had fallen into that stupor where he just I felt like it was a little plot. Yeah, well, that too. And he quit, he quit. I think he really did give up on life.
SPEAKER_07:Well, and I mean he moved into a house he couldn't afford. Yeah. It was almost double what his uh so shit was piling up. His purchases were, yeah. I think there was a lot more financial problems than they wanted to talk about, and they just made it into a haunting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:He was like, dude, I'm just gonna turn this around. I'm gonna turn this around because I can make this into something, a cash grab.
SPEAKER_07:Turn around.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, every now and then I get a little bit lonely when you never come around. Yes.
SPEAKER_07:But that is the end of this story that uh I'm gonna give you, like I said, we I I threw Ed and Lorraine in there because that's a little hint of the next couple of three weeks. We're gonna be talking a little bit more about them and shit that they were involved in. And uh, so yeah, that's the end of my story today. So, what band are you plugging in?
SPEAKER_05:I'm excited, Lindsay. Thank you so much, though. I just wanted to say thank you.
SPEAKER_06:You're welcome.
SPEAKER_05:And we're off to a great thing. It's gonna be a great fall this year, dude. Cheers. Oh, cheers. Cheers to fall. We got to see some of the leaves changing up north.
SPEAKER_07:And we had to come back to hot ass Florida.
SPEAKER_05:Hot and sweaty tits.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. It was so nice up there.
SPEAKER_05:It was a great trip. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I probably wouldn't want to be up there in another month.
SPEAKER_05:Not for living. I would I think right now would have been perfect to be up there, but all the tourist stuff, you know, I kind of shuts down. We we dodged a lot of it. Some places. Yeah, we dodged a lot of it because right now.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, some of it was shut down, and then some of it was about to blow up. Yeah, it's peaking. So yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But we're back in Florida, so I gotta play a band from around here in this area. I'm allowed to because that's what I do. And this dude at my work, his name is Squirrel, is what they call it. Squirrel. And he works like M.O.T. doing like, you know, the paving, blocking off the traffic. God, those dudes, man.
unknown:Oh.
SPEAKER_05:I can tell you a horrific story about MOT.
SPEAKER_07:Mm-mm. Not this time. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Next time I'll tell you.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, because we gotta wrap it up.
SPEAKER_05:We're going to add a story, Lindsay, about a foot that was left.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my god. I already know about one story from or the beginning of our relationship.
SPEAKER_05:Foot that was left. Oh, I'll tell that one later. We'll tell that one later. County Road 400 is a country music band.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, and they're playing all around this area. Gigs. Do they have an Instagram? Yes, check them out. County Road 400. Um, so Squirrel's the drummer, but he also does a lot of the promotions and all that. He's always sharing his stuff. Dude's a he's a cool cat, man. He's just like, hey, check out my band, man. And you play music too. So we were talking about music, you know? And I gave him a drum tuner not too long ago. Chris, my my drummer, had a spare drum tuner. So I was like, I don't know what the fuck to do with this. So I gave it to him. He's like, dude, I believe so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so they're they're from this area. Seeing how the weather is cooling off, but we're in Florida. I want to play this song of theirs. It's called I Hate the Beach. So check it out. Landsey.
SPEAKER_07:That was a good jam. Like, I wouldn't even really call that. I mean, uh if they want to be country, you'd be whatever you want to be. But I would call that a little bit of rock and roll.
SPEAKER_05:It was cool, man. It was good bar band. Like, they got good shit.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Like, I'm impressed. Go squirrel and company, man. Squirreling company. Yeah, I've met Squirrel. He's cool as shit. Yeah, you know. He's been over here to a couple of events.
SPEAKER_05:And I enjoy people putting together music no matter what it is. Good shit.
SPEAKER_07:We love it. We love the art.
SPEAKER_05:I love it. I love it. We need to go check that shit out. Dude. County Road 400. Follow them. If you're in the area, they're doing gigs and you're gonna have a great time.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:You're gonna have a great time.
SPEAKER_07:Like, I I enjoy that very much. I love that song. Yeah, I feel like it's a good idea. And even though I love the fucking beach, I love the beach. Yeah. But I understand that people hate it too.
SPEAKER_05:But he loves the view. Yeah. So it's like he doesn't like the beach, but he enjoys the view.
SPEAKER_07:So it's like, yeah, that was a good twist. He got sand in places the sand shouldn't be.
SPEAKER_05:He was enjoying the view. We love the river and the beach. Yes. And I enjoy the view everywhere. Fuck. No matter where we go, because where we go is where Lindsay's at.
SPEAKER_07:So wherever we go is Jimsey's at. Yes. So all right, guys, make sure you check out our like I said, if it's your first episode here, go back and listen to all of our backlog. Um rate us, review us, comment. Um, tell us your thoughts on this case. Um, I put in our recap episodes. Tell us your comments on the Ed Gean story. Um, not my Ed Gean story, which is factual, but uh the Ed Gean story by Ryan Murphy that is on Netflix with Charlie Hunom.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, oh my god, is it Hunum?
SPEAKER_07:Is it Hunum or Hunt Hun Hunam? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:That's a crazy story. I just don't know. Oh my god, you gotta quit. It was horrific. It was it was a line, Lindsay. It was so much.
SPEAKER_05:But hey, last season I was doing challenges so I can give somebody some merch, but I think I found a number one fan.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah. So I want to show let's do some shout-outs.
SPEAKER_05:Some shout-outs, but we're not gonna we're gonna say that that's the number one fan, but we'll do shout-outs. We'll just do shout outs.
SPEAKER_07:So I got we gotta I gotta shout out to my childhood classmate, Mary Burton, who has been an avid listener from the beginning. We love you, girl. She's she's an army wife, like number like diehard fan. We love you so much. She shares, likes, and and and tags. Like she does the work. Um, then I have some co-workers. Shout out to Caroline, Bailey, Sierra. You guys are avid listeners. Um, one of my old managers, Ashley. She is a great, she's a good listener. She has moved on to another store, but love her, miss her. And then, of course, my bestie Erin. She's she's listened, she's checking out the content. She's loving it. And um, yeah, like I we love you guys.
SPEAKER_05:Shout out to Australia and all the stuff that's happening over there. Jenny and L. Yes.
SPEAKER_07:We're excited for updates on Jenny Haynes. We love you, girl. We love you so much.
SPEAKER_05:Shout out to all the listeners in that area. Uh globally. Shout out to all the countries. I don't think we still have made it to South America yet. Still the only one? Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, shout out to Bruno. Bruno, she's our girl. She's listening.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Um, they're doing the damn thing. Yes.
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SPEAKER_07:Now, um, if you want to follow us on our personals, we're Jesse Stanby, Lindsay Stanby on Facebook, um, and then on our Instagram, we are drinkabout something and on we're doing some TikToks through my account, which is named Drink About Something Pod underscore Lindsay. And uh where else? What else?
SPEAKER_05:The whole website drinkabout something.site also and it has all the cool stuff. We're gonna do so much this season. I'm just excited.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, we've got a lot lined up.
SPEAKER_05:I'm just ready, dude.
SPEAKER_07:Like we got some content for you guys.
SPEAKER_05:That's a good half-assed palate cleanser of bullshit that you've let us into. And then you got more on top of this one.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:After we went to Lizzie's fucking house, dude.
SPEAKER_07:Like and and Ryan Murphy has a series about her coming out, I think, next year.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Right, right. So everything's tying into things that are happening right now. Um we did the little catfish thing. Yeah, that was really popular and it's still it's still going right now.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, and guys, so Stranger Things Final Season is coming up.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Comment, like, and and and give, you know, send us an email about what uh if you're excited about that, because I'm fucking excited about it.
SPEAKER_05:We're fixing that to go to Halloween Horror Nights.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah, we're going to Halloween Horror Nights next week. If you're going to Halloween Horror Nights Orlando, hit us up. Yeah, we can we can link up. Yes.
SPEAKER_05:Next Saturday.
SPEAKER_07:We'll have a drink and go through a haunted house.
SPEAKER_05:Is it the 18th or something?
SPEAKER_07:Yes, we're going on the 18th.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. So it's like tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:From the day that this comes out, tomorrow.
SPEAKER_05:Tomorrow.
SPEAKER_07:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. If you're in the uh the uh the area.
SPEAKER_07:The area.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Hit us up. Well, uh, come hang, maybe even have a a drink and do a haunted house that Lindsay used to be scared of, but now she doesn't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_07:No, I'm still gonna be scared, but um, because Universal does it right, like they scare the shit out of you. Um, the last one that we went to, the scariest one for like all none of the other ones really scared me other than the Universal Monsters.
SPEAKER_05:That was the fucking tits because it made you feel like you were in a black and white movie with them.
SPEAKER_07:I was clawing Jesse's back fat.
SPEAKER_05:You were, and I'm goofing. Like, I like to goof. I don't know why, but I goof in a haunted house. That's how I get through.
SPEAKER_07:And my oldest son was doing the same. He was talking to himself. He's like, You're not real, you're not gonna get me with his SpongeBob book bag.
SPEAKER_05:You know, and Florida has some class threes. One of these days, I want to do a class three, like where they actually come up and grab you and shit.
SPEAKER_07:I don't want to be touched. I will fight.
SPEAKER_05:I want to do a class three.
SPEAKER_07:I don't want somebody to touch me because I have I don't want to hurt them. Uh I will fight you.
SPEAKER_05:Haunted houses and things, dude. I used to I I used to oh Lindsay's been in them with created, and that was just fun. And I I always come up with like ideas and conspiracies and and how to hold your hands the right way. And then what was the thing? I the the the gallon jug with the rocks fucked everybody up, made people wet themselves. Wow. Literally. I come out there with a painted gallon milk jug with rocks in it. Way scarier than going boo.
SPEAKER_07:I was the tour guide of two haunted trails out at Jesse's mom's property. And the first year I was a witch. The second year I was a clown because we did a whole clown, we did a whole circus thing. Haunted circus. Haunted carnival, yeah. Haunted carnival. Yeah. And um, and I was pregnant with our with our boy, and um, so it was perfect for me. And um we had a good time. Oh, we had a truck, a ice big old ice cream truck in the city. And we had a crowd, we had a lot of people come through that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we got really busy. We do that like three weekends or something. Uh the first weekend wasn't that much. The the other two weekends was blow the fuck up. We knew how to put it together. It was great. We were like three.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we had uh we also put like Mary Shaw in that one, we put um Carrie in that one, along with the whole clown clown theme. My kids were participants, our family. It was it was a good time.
SPEAKER_05:Epic, epic. But um, hope you guys have a great Halloween, great fall season, and we will see you guys next Friday. Yes, and check us out. We also do things on Wednesday, and I think we got something going on.
SPEAKER_07:Well, so uh well this it'll have already passed, but make sure you check out our recap of Lizzie Borden that happened on Wednesday, and then our the recap of our nine-day road trip on Thursday.
SPEAKER_05:The whole trip up and back. We talked about that forever. That was great, though.
SPEAKER_07:And we also featured our clothing that we got from my my sweatshirt from Jennifer Turpin, and uh which is uh Don's Designs, uh, and uh your t-shirt from Aaron Goodwin, which is Big Steppin' Big Step. Big Steppin'.com. But we'll see you guys though.
SPEAKER_05:Check us out. We love you so much too. Yes, that's what we need. We need shares, and I said I was like we need likes and shares and followers. The most shares and likes that somebody does and they prove it, and they're like, dude, I did all this and I got all your fans and followers. I'll send you some stuff too. Because I want to send out merch. I got merch, I want to send it out. So yes, but we'll see you guys then, though.
SPEAKER_07:We love you so much. See you next week. Bye.
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