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DRUNK ABOUT SOMETHING AMITYVILLE RECAP

Jendsey Season 2

A brutal family murder, a discounted dream home, and a legend that swallowed a neighborhood—Amityville is as much a story about us as it is about a house. We walk through the facts of the DeFeo killings, then slow down to examine how a decade of grief turned into a global ghost franchise. The details that matter—addiction, violence, a rushed confession, and shifting insanity claims—sit next to the details that sell: cold rooms that no fire could fix, swarms of flies, a red‑eyed “friend” named Jody, and yes, a midnight marching band that feels made for the movies.

We talk about why George and Kathy Lutz bought 112 Ocean Avenue, furniture included, and how their claims escalated alongside meetings with lawyers, book percentages, and the media engine that followed. We revisit the priest’s alleged experiences, the Warrens’ high-profile investigation, and the infamous “ghost boy” photo that likely showed a team member. Then we zoom out: later owners reported no hauntings, only harassment from crowds. Windows were changed, the address was updated, and still the myth persisted—because a profitable story is harder to evict than any spirit.

If you’re drawn to true crime, paranormal history, and the ethics that separate commemoration from exploitation, this one will stick with you. We’re not out to crush belief; we’ve had our own strange moments and talk candidly about signs, memory, and unfinished business. But we also follow the money, question credibility, and push for respect where it’s due: to the victims, to the neighborhood, and to the truth that doesn’t need jump scares to hold up.

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Hey Jesse! Hey Lindsay! What's up?

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Hello.

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What? What's up?

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I mean, did you ask?

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I don't know. The camera always throws me off. I'm like.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I mean, what is up?

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Uh well, we're recapping.

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Capping?

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Recapping.

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Cap, capp, capping. Don't be capping.

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I got this weird thing going on in my hair. I have my. It's wet. And it's it's weird. It's weird.

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Is your hair moist?

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It's very moist. I had a shower. I'm clean.

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Moist.

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My hair is washed and we're gonna re-dye, and I still, you know, it's like oh my god, I can't take it.

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Moist.

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You say moist, whatever.

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Moist doesn't bother you.

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It doesn't bother me.

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I think Letter Kenny broke everybody for moist. I think. Right?

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I think it's right. Okay, here we go. Whatever. Whatever we get. Hey. Alright, so we are raw, unedited, and uncut, unfiltered recap.

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The whole damn thing.

SPEAKER_00:

This this this recap is about the DeFeo family and the Lutz family that we covered last week on um the recorded pod, the audio pod.

SPEAKER_04:

The fake Amityville thing.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't even do a Amityville come-up.

SPEAKER_04:

Facamity. Facamity calamity. I mean everything wasn't fake.

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Unfortunately.

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Yes, a murder.

SPEAKER_00:

Butch DeFeo, Ronald DeFeo Jr., who went by Butch, he literally annihilated his entire family. Six people. His brothers and sisters and his mother and father.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, after that went down, like then I was goof booting because after that I was like, there's no fucking way. Right. What did I call it? Like Amneyville, something in the marching band or something. Check it out though, if you guys want to go back and check out the whole episode that we did there. It was the marching band got me. The marching band.

SPEAKER_00:

I know. Uh that would have been exciting. So let's uh start from the beginning. First of all, what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_04:

Me over here. Well, you got me a you had some Vista Bay rushes.

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Yeah, they're uh what are they? 8%?

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They're eight cents. Yeah.

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Eight percent.

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Eight cents of rush.

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And I have in my bookies cup, um, I put a mixture of a blackberry Vista Bay Rush and a lemon regular Vista Bay together. Because I was like, blackberry and lemon taste good together.

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So you're rushing to the bay.

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It's like a blackberry lemonade. It's delicious.

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Yeah. It's a bay rush.

SPEAKER_00:

So 1974 of November.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah, the whole the whole fucking setup, dude. That was so horrific.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, first of all, going back to that, um, you know, like the DeFeo family on the outside seem like a tight-knit Catholic family. Um, but of course, there's always problems. Um, when people think that families are perfect. There's there's underlying issues. Yeah. And um, so Ronald DeFeo Jr., who went by Butch. Um, I called him Butch in the episode so it didn't get confusing, and that was his nickname. So he had had problems with heroin, um, LSD. He was violent. Um, he was 23 years old, still living at home, still being pretty spoiled. He had a job through his grandfather's car lot that his father also worked at, Ronald Sr.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

And um he got it set up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

It was it was just horrific.

SPEAKER_00:

But selfishness was just that's what gets me about, like, you know, um my parents are very and I'm the I'm the only child. I'm my dad's only child. I have two sisters, um, but we don't have the same dad. But I was my dad's only child and my stepmom's only child. She didn't have any, you know, biological children, and they were very well off, but they never gave me anything. Even things that they helped me get, I always paid back, which taught me a very strong work ethic because I was made to pay them back what I owed them, and nothing was handed to me. And I didn't appreciate that when I was a kid because I knew they had it like that, but I appreciate it. I appreciated it as uh I started really understanding that in my mid to late 20s. Like, oh, I get it now.

SPEAKER_04:

And then from then on, you're good to go. You're gonna earn your way, right? Exactly. Yeah, we're teaching Silas a little bit of that, right?

SPEAKER_00:

We've taught all of our kids that uh we've made them get jobs early on, like as soon as they turn 16, like the day after.

SPEAKER_03:

No, Lindsay. As soon as they could pull along.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, okay. Uh corporate jobs from the time that they're 16.

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But early on for you gotta work, nothing is handed to you.

SPEAKER_00:

Um now, like I said, he did have a job through the family business. He was earning his own money, but he still felt like uh he was entitled to more. Butch Butch DeFeo. He stole a deposit, he got another co-worker involved in that. He was violent towards his family. Um talked really shitty about his family after the murders happened. He initially tried to pin it on a mob hitman because his family was Italian, both families, both sides, foot mother and the father. Tried to pin it on a mob hitman, and well, that guy had an airtight alibi, and within 24 hours, Butch admitted to everything.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and you can't be that selfish and dump that back on your parents, which has given you a good way of life, enough to where he can party and do his own things. Then he started bringing people into the household before all that.

SPEAKER_00:

So it was like Yeah, he was just bringing people over to party without permission. I mean, the Amityville House, uh, 112 Ocean Avenue is uh is a very, very nice home. And um it's a big house, a lot of room, wet bar. It's I mean, it's got everything you need for a party. It had a heated swimming pool. So if he had been, I'm sure, nice to his family, his parents, and said, Hey, I'm having some friends over, is it okay if we have a little get together? That would have been a different story. But he did it without permission all the time.

SPEAKER_04:

And uh nutted up, got his lip poked out, and then he decided to kill the whole damn family.

SPEAKER_00:

The whole family.

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Fuck.

SPEAKER_00:

Fuck. So after he admitted to it, um his defense uh still tried to because he did have some mental issues. I I mean, in my opinion, you don't you're not able to do something like that with without some kind of underlying mental issue. Yeah. At least uh at least one thing. I mean, he had a couple of things wrong with him.

SPEAKER_04:

Um Well, I believe it was like what it said, like he did his dad first, right? Or was it his mom first?

SPEAKER_00:

It was his parents. Oh well, what he said in his confession is he started with them and then he just went room by room and it went went happened so fast.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I I put the direct quote in the episode.

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That's where that's where the debility like leveled up, like his whole in insanity, I think, leveled up after he physically did that and he was like, I'm doing the whole family. Because I I I think he originally had planned just to just to get probably his dad first, and then No, he hated his brothers and sisters just as well.

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He had a lot of animosity.

SPEAKER_04:

So horrifically selfish, man.

SPEAKER_00:

I've heard we gotta remember we can't talk at the same time on this app.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, it didn't do it last time that we did that.

SPEAKER_00:

Because we were making sure that we paused and allowed each other to speak. We just have to remember that because I know on one of the recaps we do kind of cancel each other out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh y'all let us know if it's a horrific thing because I want to say things instead of just being quiet.

SPEAKER_00:

So, anyways, after he has admitted and confessed to his family annihilation, um, he tries to change his story later on. And uh they try to do the insanity defense that he didn't remember committing the murders, that uh there was an entity in the house that told him to commit these murders, but none of that worked out. He, I mean, he died in prison. But in between, he changed his story several times. He tried to pin it on his sister, then he tried to pin it on sister and an unknown assailant. I mean, just he changed his story a lot.

SPEAKER_04:

He was a loopy, goofy goober.

SPEAKER_00:

So then a year later, just a year, a little over a year later, the Defeo, I mean, the Lutz family is looking for a home. They are a blended family. Um, it was George and Kathy Lutz. George had married Kathy and her three kids, because when you when you marry a woman who has three children, you marry their children too.

SPEAKER_04:

And they need a bigger home.

SPEAKER_00:

They need a bigger home, and their budget was between$30,000 and$50,000. They looked at many homes, couldn't find anything. Realtors like, hey, this new property is on the market, but it's$80 grand, but it has everything you want, everything you need. Hit me up, I got you mine. Yeah, and I think that's little white, by the way.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I think that time was over with it, it was$85,000 because you know, all the taxes and everything. So way out of their budget. Way out of their budget.

SPEAKER_00:

But when they looked at the home and seen the size of it and everything it came with, because it was five-bedroom, what did I say, five-bedroom, four, three bath or four baths?

SPEAKER_04:

Five four, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Five, four, and it had a boathouse, it had a wet bar, finished basement, all the all the all the things, heated swimming pool. Um, they're like, Oh, I know this is way out of our budget, but why is it so cheap? And uh realtors like, well, some murders happened here. Told them straight up. Told them. And I did say this in the in the episode two. There was literally still bullet holes in the furniture and chalk lines. And they bought the fucking furniture. They bought the furniture. They got it too for$400 extra dollars. It's not worth it. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I'll be able to I would have to pick which one part because they had the beds and everything except for the mattresses, of course. But they bought the beds and everything. I don't think I I don't know, man. I d I don't know.

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Every single bed had a dead person in it. Like every single one. Oh, face down. Face down. Oh so they buy the house because they're like, we're not spooked, we don't believe in the paranormal. And we'll just have a priest come in, even though they weren't religious. We'll just have a priest come in and bless it. Well, according to um previous stories from this time, the priest had a lot of issues too. Like he came in and blessed it, but he felt some bad energy. He declined a stay for dinner after he after he blessed it. And um he had problems after he left, allegedly. Um, just when he would think about the Lutzes, uh, he would get he would get sick and things would happen to him. Crazy shit. And then the Lutzes start having all kinds of problems. George uh becomes pretty much what they what you would call possessed. Um he starts to slack off on his hygiene, his appearance, his work.

SPEAKER_04:

He gave up on life.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he was just existing.

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And he could never get warm. He was obsessed with making fires and always had to stay in front of the fire. Um the kids saw black flies, not in their Chardonnay, but in the windows. Um from the windows to the walls, they weren't like black flies. Uh, they saw black substance in the toilet, both toilets, uh, and there was a foul smell. Then shit just starts getting even more wild. Um they there, I didn't mention this in the story, but this is uh allegedly one thing that happened. There was a statue that was moved. There was money that went missing from another member of the family who George was entrusted. It was was it a cousin or a brother-in-law was getting married, something like that, and he brought them money, or he brought George money for the caterer, and that money just disappeared. And that's that that's a little red flag for me because what the fuck does an entity or a spirit or a ghost need with money?

SPEAKER_04:

The beginning of the whole scam to me.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And I I apologize for not putting that in the initial pod. Um, I had I remember saying I need to add this to the notes, and it never happened because ADHD and things like that. Um, but I'm talking about it now. So yeah, there was money that went missing, there were statues that were moved. People, uh, the the family was pushed, shoved, um, tormented. The little girl though, Missy, Melissa, uh, she went by Missy, she she made a friend. Her and its name was Jody, the the male pig.

SPEAKER_04:

That's right. That's right. I sang a song about that.

SPEAKER_00:

She felt she didn't feel no issues with it, but the rest of the family was scared of it. Um, and the rocking chair in her room would move a lot.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, the red eyes with the pig was kind of yeah, the red eyes, pig face.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I guess that can be scary um to the rest of the family. But Jody, I mean, uh, Missy felt no no ill will to that was her buddy. That was her imaginary friend. When do we get to the fucking marching band, bro? Well, I was getting there next. Fucking marching band. So uh a marching band on in the witching hour appears in their living room, or the or not appears, but they hear it. They hear the noises of a marching band, not once, not twice, about three times. And um, like I said, in the episode, I I don't see anything scary about that, but that's just me.

SPEAKER_04:

We'd be in the living room juking to it.

SPEAKER_00:

I would be like, let me borrow your clarinet. Let me see what I can remember.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm playing the drum line all day, dude. I'm not doing no wind wood fucking brass horn shit. I'm playing the drum line, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we would be giving them orders. We would have requests. Oh, we just have our little play Louie Louie.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow, wow, wow, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, wow. Waw wah wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, Mr. Holland's opus in this bitch. Opus. So we love March and May's. I'm so sorry. Uh, we probably were the worst people to cover this family because we kind of like everything that they went through except the black flies and the black toilet bowl. I would just get some bleach.

SPEAKER_04:

And the the red eyes. Come on, I ain't got red eyes looking at me.

SPEAKER_00:

I have ghosts. I have not ghosts. I have two leather face masks watching me sleep every night.

SPEAKER_04:

Every night. And and you know what? We left them around the house in our bedroom, actually, all damn year long.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, they're just on mannequin heads on our dresser. We keep them preserved for silence because they were expensive. They were easy of us, one with 70 and one was that? Who does that? I got witch hats on them right now. They're all dressed up and cute.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh there's some Edgeen fucking Tennessees over here, man. We're like kind of gainish, man. It's a little gainish there, man.

SPEAKER_00:

One of those masks was$70 and one was$80. We are not letting them get torn up.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we didn't want to put them in the box in the garage in the heat all summer long.

SPEAKER_00:

So they are permanent figures in our bedroom.

SPEAKER_04:

This is a Gen Z party. Oh Lord, at the things they have seen.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I don't know. I think it's amazing, man. I'm gonna smile with my bottom teeth.

SPEAKER_00:

They enjoy the show. Um, but anyway, so now the Lutz family, they get out of the house after they experience uh um a hurricane that only happens to them, power outages that only happens to them, um burning hot temperatures in the house. I mean, it's just all kinds of crazy shit. Um, watch Amityville horror, look up this case. This is every it is everything that they said happened to them is in um the book and the movie. But so they take off after 28 days. Oh yeah, and then the the the previous lawyer hit them up, right? The lawyer, yes, uh Ronald DeFeo Jr.'s lawyer hits uh meets that they they they become buds. Um and he's like, Oh, you had some stuff happen to you in that house. Well, do you want to testify to this and and and help me get my client a lesser sentence? I don't think that that hap I don't think that that happened because like I said, Ronald uh Butch Butch DeFeo died in prison in 2021, so he was in there since then. Um but he promised them uh a percentage off of a book deal because he was gonna write a book about the whole issue. But um Jay Anson was the one that ended up writing the book, and and then the movie was based off of that. Jay Anson was like, I'll give you 50%. They were promised 12 by William Weber, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

So um they went with that, and um, you you can look up everybody that they sued, everybody that sued them. Oh, and of course, I forgot all about Ed and Lorraine Warren's Warren's appearance, and um how they capitalized off of a tour of that house after the Letz's moved out before it was sold to the next family, who, by the way, did not have any um paranormal activity happen to them, and neither has any of the owners all the way up until now.

SPEAKER_04:

Other than just talking a picture of somebody that was on their crew.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, hold on, that was before the next family moved in. So, yeah, so they took a picture and they made it seem like the Warrens did. They made it seem like this was a picture of uh the ghost of one of the DeFeo boys. No, that was a team member of theirs, uh Paul Bart. And um, but they capitalized off of that, they made money off of, they made money off of everything, and we're gonna get so much more into the Warrens in the next couple of weeks. So the next family that lives in that house, they are now people are standing outside after the movies come out, they can't even live there because they're getting harassed. They sue the Ludzes because they're like, You're full of shit. There's nothing wrong with this house. We're not experiencing any paranormal activity, we're not having any problems here. We love this house, but we can't live in it because of you. Because you have now sensationalized our home.

SPEAKER_04:

And then who wants to have to live in a spectacle? Right. Yeah, a tourist attraction, may I say?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, and then that's what they've built it up to, and it's all fucking bullshit. And we've all fed into it because we all loved watching those movies and thinking that was.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and like like I said, you know, I would have rode by the house just to say that I saw it, but I wouldn't have I mean, people were sitting in their front lawn demanding entry, and it was it was really wild. It's it was really wild what the next family went through, and they were there for about 10 years. But I mean, all the next uh all the future owners of this home had no issues whatsoever. And um, they even changed, they changed the windows to where they didn't look like eyes looking out looking out at you, and they changed the address. So um, yeah, so that is pretty much what wraps it up. Um, the Lutzes made some money, some some good money off of uh what supposedly happened to them in 28 days that they in the in the 28 days that they lived at 112 Ocean Avenue. Um old uh Butch Butch Defeo, he really tried, he really tried really hard to uh they lied. They lied. I mean, I I really believe that.

SPEAKER_04:

Unless anybody wants to prove much different, I would love to hear a story.

SPEAKER_00:

Now I am, I mean, I I'm really hoping that a priest didn't lie. And I'm curious to know what actually happened to him. Now, maybe he felt just an evil presence because of what had happened in that house. Um but I don't this is what I don't understand. Usually when an evil entity is in the house, it's because the people that had either been slain there or people that live there that died are still haunting the place. Well, I mean, there was nothing wrong, there was nothing evil about the rest of the DeFeo family that were slain there. And Ronald was alive, and Ronald Jr., Butch, he was alive and in prison. So what was there? Yeah, um, but at the same time, he was trying to say that something that was there before him had coaxed him into these murder. But that the DeFeos had lived in that home for almost a decade without any problems.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it would have happened like as soon as they got there, just like the other family. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit.

SPEAKER_00:

But we are very we are very cynical, but at the same time, we do believe we believe in spirits and paranormal. We have both experienced things like that in in our past. I I mean, actually in this house. Um but this just sounds like bullshit to me, all of it. Um uh Butch Defeo was a piece of shit who murdered his family, and I think that the Lutzes got in over their head financially and uh decided to use what had happened in that house to their advantage.

SPEAKER_04:

So honestly, Lindsay, do you think that spirits mostly latch on to certain areas and stay, or do they kind of float by sometimes?

SPEAKER_00:

I honestly don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Um you know, because there was like a pretty big murder not too far from here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, there was. But I don't know. I I mean I I I I can't tell you.

SPEAKER_04:

Isn't that a cool conspiracy, like a or a thought, really? Like, what if, you know, sometimes they latch onto things or whatever, and sometimes it could be somebody from from uh the their past or whatever just saying bye or whatever or kind of swinging by, you know? Because I think it it's all one big huge thing that um your soul and everything is part of way more than what we can imagine. So they can be in different spots, they don't just hang on, you know? I don't know. It's just my thoughts.

SPEAKER_00:

So you think that spirits that are left behind in a home, they they ain't gotta stay there. They can get out, they can do whatever they want.

SPEAKER_04:

I think there's so many stipulations in that.

SPEAKER_00:

Me too. Like I I honestly have no insight as to how I think that works because that is beyond my thought process.

SPEAKER_04:

I kind of like the new theory that they've been putting out on movies and stuff because it it's kind of like the unfinished business thing, which we've we uh we experienced that with Casper growing up, right? And it's and it's kind of it's it's evolving since then. Honestly, that was my first experience with like the unfinished business type thing, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Me too, me too. I mean, uh I mean that was our generation.

SPEAKER_04:

It was the Casper. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like I feel like that, you know, there could be an unfinished something, or maybe they just they're wanting uh they're wanting a little bit more time, you know, and who knows what the the concept of time is if you're a spiritual entity or or whatever. So maybe what they're thinking is could could last years or just a few seconds, you know, just a passing by like a little hay, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

And also, furthermore, but how do you finish their business?

SPEAKER_04:

I uh maybe it's uh a feeling or something that you notice, and then they notice that you notice and they're good, you know? That could be it. It doesn't have to be like this big thing, right? You know, or a little red, a red mocking bird or something over there on the tree.

SPEAKER_00:

Well it's not mocking bird, it's cardinal. Cardinal. We do uh this tree right outside of our window here. There is red uh um just in the last few years, he lost his father, I lost my grandmother. They were both, I mean, you know, big part of our life, and we noticed that we see a lot more red birds out there now. Um in just in that area, and it's only about once a week.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and even through like the fall season and everything, you'll see different uh larger ones, you know, where they're flying down or whatever. It's kind of cool because there's an evolution of birds, and then the warmer climate ones will move on down south, and the you know, the ones from up north up they'll come in and show up and they're on our fence and right there. So that's a cool thing, you know. And I believe that animals, they do what God tells them to do, you know? So maybe that's a little little piece of them kind of just you know, or it's just me remember remembering, but at the same time, that's how people do remember things, you know. If you can associate that with something simple like that, maybe that's that'll complete unfinished business as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_04:

You know?

SPEAKER_00:

So that's just a little just a little visit.

SPEAKER_04:

That's my thoughts.

SPEAKER_00:

That's my thoughts. But I really hate when um people try to capitalize or come up from any kind of paranormal activity, as far as um saying that that was the reason why they did something bad.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, manifesting something that's not even really there, too, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Just like, you know, Ronald saying or or Butch saying that um, you know, something told him to annihilate his family, and then the Lutz family, I I honestly think that they were in over their heads it financially, and uh they were looking for a way out, yeah, and they found one. So and the children were young enough to be coaxed into believing that things happened to them. Um that happens all the time. It's not that's not new, that's not that's not a new theory, that happens all the time. Right. People, I mean, go back and listen to our episode about the McMartin preschool. I mean, there was a whole lot of kids who were coaxed into believing something that did not happen.

SPEAKER_04:

The level of manipulation, you know, should be a crime in its own. You know, you you don't do that to children, you don't because if they're gonna hang on to that for the rest of their lives, you know. That's a crime in its own. Nobody ever charges anybody with that shit. Why? It's like, yeah, we won't talk about that. But fuck. Bruno has been in the fucking story so many times we ain't talked about him, you know? It's just like It's 'cause we don't talk about Bruno. I know, but like he is showing the fuck up in a lot of these stories, and there's a lot of little things like, okay. Um, especially like certain situations where I'm like, fuck, that's all they got. They're already out of prison. That's all they got. What about all the manipulation and all the shit that's been going on here, Lindsay? You've been dropping over here, bud. You know? There's just been a lot of that that I'm like, dude, if I was a prosecutor or a judge or something, dude, I would be going, because you know these people are dead to rights, fucking wrong. But shitty ass people.

SPEAKER_00:

But there's still people sitting in prison for usage of marijuana that is now legal.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That should have been that should have been annulled then.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That should have been a complaint.

SPEAKER_00:

Pardon. Right? How do you how do you change the law?

SPEAKER_04:

Right. I agree with you. I agree with you. And we're not even we're not even big old uh greenery type. No, we're not.

SPEAKER_00:

We're not gardeners, but we support it. Yeah. If that's what you want to do, that's fine.

SPEAKER_04:

Recreationally.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes. I mean, you know, and and we we partake in our things recreationally, but not we don't abuse it. We don't abuse it, right? Where it starts changing what the fuck you're doing with your household and your money. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_00:

We're responsible drinkers.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, on weekends we ain't leaving this damn house. No. We're here. We're hanging out. Tomorrow. I think we're gonna leave and do some stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we're gonna leave and then drink. Yeah. We're gonna go to Halloween Horror Nights. Uh yes. And we're recording this on a Friday, but this will be in your ears and in your faces on Wednesday. And uh we hope you have a great hump day. We're gonna wrap this up. Make sure you listen to what did you it was supposed to be called 112 Ocean Avenue.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, but I like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Stop changing the names of my episodes.

SPEAKER_04:

But the band, man. I had to put the band in there, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyway, I don't know what he named it. I'm so sorry. It was supposed to be called 112 Ocean Avenue. Because there were two stories in one that happened at 112 Ocean Avenue.

SPEAKER_04:

The cool thing about it, Lynn's, I have the power to change things.

SPEAKER_00:

I know. I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to see what you named it so I can tell the listeners to go back.

SPEAKER_04:

Tell the peeps I've done wrong. This is unfinished business for me over here.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I like it, man. Okay, so he named it Amityville Murder Myth and a Marching Band, which is fine. But 112 Ocean Avenue would have still been great. It's straight and to the point because two two different things happen at 112 Ocean Avenue. I get it. But it is no longer that episode or that episode, that address. So don't bother those people. Um if you want to look it up, you can. You can find it very easily. Just drive by their house so you can say you saw it. Um but don't bother them because they don't deserve that. Anyhow.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe this is my way of getting back at you for destroying me on so many podcasts and just keep naming your shit wrong.

SPEAKER_00:

Stay tuned for Friday when we will be talking about another case that Ed and Lorraine Warren are involved in. And uh some more devil, some more New England, some more double. Yeah, some more spooks for October because we are in spooky season. And it's I I just changed my little countdown to Halloween today, and there's only 14 days left, and I am very sad about that. But by the time this comes out, there's only gonna be seven days left. It's going by too fast. We wait all year for this, and then it's like blip.

SPEAKER_04:

Doesn't it? We start in like September.

SPEAKER_00:

We start, yeah, we start spooky season actually.

SPEAKER_04:

August 99. We we clock in, and it's like, okay, we got one minute till September. We're on. We start unloading shit. We we the whole house is decorated within five minutes, and we live in it, basking in it.

SPEAKER_00:

And it stays decorated until Thanksgiving. And then we just switch right over to Christmas.

SPEAKER_04:

Check out some of our videos. We've posted some of the house and stuff, but we're gonna do more of that, of course, because you know, we got a Halloween taco nine.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and we're gonna make a couple of TikToks later on this evening when it gets a little darker, a little more spooky.

SPEAKER_04:

It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. I need another drink. We're gonna do some more podcasting. So follow along.

SPEAKER_00:

And we've made charcuterie, and we're I'm gonna graze a little more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

We're gonna graze, and we're gonna do the shits. And I'm gonna misname every podcast from here on.

SPEAKER_00:

So we're gonna see you. We're gonna we're we won't see you on Friday, but make sure you tune in on Friday for Was the Devil in Connecticut?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, that's that's what you want to name that one?

SPEAKER_00:

That is the name of it, sir.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, we okay, I got you. I will forget.

SPEAKER_00:

We make sure that you like, share, comment, um, subscribe. We are on you. We're we're here. We're here on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01:

And Lindsay, you know, you who knew you'd be hated for being who you are. I'm hated?

SPEAKER_04:

No, me. I'm talking about you. There's a bull's bullseye painted on my chest, man. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

But I love that song.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, but I didn't mean to not.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not I'm not hating. When I write out the script, I title it, and that's what I want the episode to be named, and he changes.

SPEAKER_04:

I get creative every time. I get creative. I can't help it.

SPEAKER_00:

You can hate me today. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04:

If you want to.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't hate you.

SPEAKER_04:

Are you?

SPEAKER_00:

But we're gonna wrap this up. We're going past our time.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, you could hate me tomorrow, too.

SPEAKER_00:

We love you so much. Yeah. And uh we'll we'll we'll uh tune in on Friday. We'll see you Friday. We'll we'll I don't know. We'll we'll do the thing.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm smiling with my bottom teeth. Y'all can't see shit on here. All right. We'll see you guys.

SPEAKER_00:

We love you so much, and bye!

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