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EPISODE 53: WAS THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT
We trace the Glatzel and Johnson families from the first day of oddities to the arrival of Ed and Lorraine Warren, “light” exorcisms, and a promise that the beast would claim another soul. When Debbie starts fresh at a kennel owned by Alan Bono, pressure builds: a boozy lunch, doors blocked, music hammering, and a sudden fight that leaves Bono fatally stabbed. In the aftermath, Arnie Cheyenne Johnson denies memory of the attack and his lawyer pushes the headline defense: “The devil made me do it.”
The court shuts the door on demons, and the case pivots to protection of a minor and diminished responsibility—ending in a manslaughter conviction and parole after five years. But the story doesn’t settle. One brother says it was exploitation, not exorcism: undiagnosed mental illness, suggestibility, and a family swept up by star demonologists in the shadow of Amityville. Allegations of alcohol abuse and jealousy shift the motive from the supernatural to the painfully ordinary. Along the way, we ask hard questions about police work, media incentives, and how a case like this helped fuel the U.S. satanic panic.
We don’t preach; we pull threads. You’ll hear the timelines, the contradictions, the cultural echoes, and the reasons this case still grabs headlines and film scripts alike. If you’re here for true crime, paranormal lore, or a clear-eyed look at how belief shapes justice, this one delivers. Hit play, then tell us: hoax, horror, or something in between? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves forensic mysteries or occult history, and leave a review with your take—we’ll read our favorites on the show.
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Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. What are you drinking tonight? I have. It's it's drink about something at night. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I took a Manhattan and I added some stuff to it, and it's really good. Yeah? A little this, a little that.
SPEAKER_00:He's got a cocktail and a cocktail.
SPEAKER_03:My mom upside the head with a wiffle ball back. I got everything. Ever I think. What do you got over there?
SPEAKER_00:I well, I finished up. So for our recap, I made uh a mixture of blackberry vista bay serge with lemon regular vista bay. And that was delicious. It was like a blackberry lemonade. And now pop go to weedle. I'm having a watermelon vistabae because they didn't have my normal mix that I normally get. So I had to get the other one. And I like all the ones in the other mix, which is watermelon, lemon. I forgot what the other one is. Watermelon, lemon.
SPEAKER_03:I think you need to do some more Bay Watch.
SPEAKER_00:And then there's passion fruit. And I don't like the passion fruit. So I feel like but you drink the passion fruit. Yeah. I do.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, do a little bit more Bay Watch and then get back with us. A little bit more Vista Bay Watch.
SPEAKER_00:But there's a fourth flavor in there. Oh, peach. It's peach. Yeah, it's peach. Yeah, it's peach.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah. They didn't have my normal mix, which is uh the raspberry, black cherry, pineapple, and lime. That's the normal for uh 12 pack that I get. It's get got four of each.
SPEAKER_03:Three of each.
SPEAKER_00:So I don't get to sing my raspberry song that's you don't get to sing raspberry, but the bay.
SPEAKER_03:I like that. I like that. Hey, Lindsay. Let's kick this thing off. Happy Friday, everybody. Oh my goodness. Here we go. We're literally over here. Is it this? I like the jam, dude. I like the jam.
SPEAKER_00:This is our intro, man. It's part of our life now.
SPEAKER_03:It's the jam. It's the jam.
SPEAKER_00:We're one year in, man.
SPEAKER_03:This is the signal for you to actually destroy me, and I love it. Yeah? Why do I love it so much?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't know why you love it so much, but can I ask you a question? What made you feel old this week?
SPEAKER_03:Thank you. Thank you for dropping that again. Shopping. For vitamin supplements. That way I feel better. Vitamin.
SPEAKER_00:When you said shopping, I went right to um fucking Dave Chappelle from God, what, 30 years ago? Nutty Professor? The Nutty Professor.
SPEAKER_01:We'll be shopping. I can't stop a woman from shopping.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I was doing. Like I was shopping for vitamins.
SPEAKER_00:Hold on, real quick. Okay, so Silas is in the kitchen right now because we're not gonna get into bad stuff for a while. What you got? Hold on. Let me tell, let me tell our listeners, we have made a grazing charcuterie board for this evening. And he's getting juice on my script. So what what combination do you have there in your hand that you're geeking about?
SPEAKER_01:A cracker and uh some a ham and a cucumber in the middle, and ham and a cracker.
SPEAKER_03:Cracker, ham, cucumber, and ham.
SPEAKER_00:So it this is um it's salami, it's peppered salami. Yes, it's salami with a uh with a chili um scalloped cracker from Aldi. I got we got all the charcuterie um needs over here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he's over there grazing, but we're gonna kick him out here a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:And we made cucumber salad, but it's with sesame oil and uh and chili oil, the chili, the chili onion crunch oil.
SPEAKER_03:All of it was so good. She got mad because I found some cool stuff over there on the counter.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's not allowed to have the sweets yet. That's for later. But she's like, You're supposed to be grazing. I'm like, dude, it's in the same pasture.
SPEAKER_03:No, like cows do move. They don't just stand in one spot. It's in the other pasture. No, it's it's part of the counter, damn it. Counts all day long.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, we've been grazing on some charcuterie. We did our recap, and you said that what made you feel old was shopping for what?
SPEAKER_03:For vitamins and supplements to make me feel like like energetic and better and be healthy at the same time.
SPEAKER_00:I felt that 110% I have been on a correct vitamin journey for like two years now.
SPEAKER_03:Isn't it crazy? Because I was pointing out last night when I was kind of bringing that up, and I was like, you can buy the same vitamins from different companies, and it's a whole nother effect. Like they're like, oh, all organic, these are the best ones, blah, blah, blah. And you buy it from the same exact things, same everything, milligrams, everything, whatever. And it's a different, it's different. I don't know why. Why can't they make a consistent like?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't understand it. I hate it.
SPEAKER_00:But um, yeah, so I have I am 43 years old, and I have PCOS, and I'm also going through the perimenopause, and um, it constantly feels like I'm pregnant um with the bloat that I have constantly. I get one week, one full week out of the full out of the whole month that I feel normal. That I feel good, that I feel normal. Um, other than that, I'm either ovulating, PMSing, or on my actual period, which my good week is coming up in about two days. So excited. Um, but anyway, so I'm trying to find supplements that will help me with this bloat. And I have been through everything. I have ordered all the supplements that everybody says helps with bloat. I haven't found a good one yet. Now I have ordered Primal Queen, um, that I have seen a lot of good reviews on, and even good reviews by people I actually know. So I'm ordered them and we're gonna see fingers crossed, you guys, because I am just so second tired of feeling like I am bloated constantly.
SPEAKER_03:I hate that for you. Yeah, because dudes have a lot of old dude problems too. I mean, you have tests. I exercise stuff. So that's what I'm looking for, you know.
SPEAKER_00:I exercise, I eat healthy five days out of seven. And most of even on the days that we splurge, we still don't eat horribly, like at all. And um take in a little bit more garbage than you do. You do take in a whole lot more garbage than me, but I don't eat a lot of fast food. I I uh w we meal prep at home. Um and even when Silas and I go out to eat, I I go and eat salad bar. I mean I eat the meal prep. And I don't even eat the the I don't even eat the bad stuff that's on the salad bar, I eat the vegetables, and that's it.
SPEAKER_03:I eat the meal prep four times this week. So that's good of me. Good of me. And every Wednesday, though, by God, I'm going telly on it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, on Wednesdays we go to Ruby Tuesdays, but like I said, all I'd eat is salad there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I mean, I had to have my pumpkin spice latte something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. My baby's a basic white.
SPEAKER_03:Damn, dude, and I couldn't help it. I was like, you know what? Give me a big thing.
SPEAKER_00:Do you get the pumpkin, the white pumpkin mocha?
SPEAKER_03:The white pumpkin mocha. Fist pumps. Oh, with an extra shot because you know I like to. Yeah, he likes that.
SPEAKER_00:He likes to feel his heart palpitate.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm old, and I should use that for next week because it helps me poop.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, I agree with you. Like I had nothing planned for what I felt also.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you're piggybacking off of my.
SPEAKER_00:No, but I feel you 100% because I have been on a what supplements work for me journey for a long time. Um, I have okay, so now I have gotten D3, K2, and magnesium glycinate, and uh, and then I've ordered the primal queen. And according to all the perimenopause groups that I'm in, that combination is supposed to make me feel like a new woman. So I'm gonna get back with you guys in 30 days and see how it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So we're gonna keep an eye on that and see what's going on, which of course I'll know first.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, and I am, I mean, I've of course I'm not trying to have children, nor, but I am taking prenatals because they help with my hair, skin, and nails, and with my iron levels. So I am taking a prenatal, and um, so that is the only like multivitamin that I take. I was taking uh a multivitamin for women for my age, and it made me gain 10 pounds. Goodness. The vitamin itself. Stopped taking them. I lost it like that. The fuck? Yeah, that was like eight months ago. You had no idea because I just kept that to myself. But literally, as soon as I stopped taking those, because I was like, God, I just feel myself growing daily, and I don't know why I'm exercising, I'm eating healthy. I stopped taking those, dropped it.
SPEAKER_03:So we're looking for the miracle thing for us at our age. That makes us both feel awful.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:All right, you're allowed to piggyback off.
SPEAKER_00:We're trying not, we're trying not to go to Ozimpic sumaglutide roots, but we may have to wait a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:We don't, we haven't, it's not been around long enough to know what side effects are going on with that. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:What I've seen, I mean, I see people lose weight on it, but they age a lot in their face. And I'm I'm not a Botox queen. I don't, I don't do any of that. All I I drink, I do drink collagen and I I moisturize. Okay. And I use a um a face cleanser with hyaluronic acid.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But I'm not, but I don't want to age myself faster because I I mean, I'm fortunate to have good genes to where the women in my family age very gracefully.
SPEAKER_03:Good jeans there, Lindsay. Hey, why don't we fire off this podcast though? You got a lot to talk about. I see your shoes. I do. I do have a lot to talk about. We could talk about medicine forever because we're that old.
SPEAKER_00:But first of all, I need to um make sure that we plug us in really quick. If this is your first episode, hello. Hello, welcome.
SPEAKER_03:Hello.
SPEAKER_00:And uh what we do here is we have some drinks. We talk about true crime. Um, usually it's something that Jesse has well, not usually like 99.99%. I'm talking about stuff that he has no idea about. So his reactions are a hundred percent natural and organic.
SPEAKER_03:One of these days I'm gonna like do all the research on exactly what you're talking about. And he's gonna blow your mind flip the script.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, one of those. But um, so we have covered everything. Uh I I mentioned in our last episode, a few, the first few episodes. We have also covered uh Gertrude Banazouski. We have covered Jessica McCarty.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Dirty Gertie.
SPEAKER_00:We've covered Christmas at the Anderson, Psycho Santa, Hometown Colts, and Johnny Cash.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I thought Charles Me was really interesting. We didn't find a lot, but it's really interesting to dive into that.
SPEAKER_00:I mean what Jesse and I have found out about finding out about cases in this town is it's really hard. It's it's so swept under the rug.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. They might cancel me for even admitting some of the things that get swept under the rug. Because I admit it. I really do. I'm gonna say it, dude. I mean, you even know somebody that got ran over that was dead before that.
SPEAKER_00:Sure do.
SPEAKER_03:All that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and there ain't nothing about that either. Now you and I can go down to the courthouse and we can we can get some public records on some of these and probably put together an episode over that. But at the same time, like I'm very uncomfortable with doing that.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not, dude. I'm a I'm a nut up.
SPEAKER_00:Jesse is not uncomfortable with confrontation whatsoever, which I consider that a form of confrontation. Being like, um, can I get the records or this death here?
SPEAKER_03:I want to be unconfrontationally confrontational.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't mind because we can go to Gainesville and get all the fuck we want because that's really where it's at.
SPEAKER_00:It really is.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you look back when Al Capone came here and was all the murders and lynchings and crazy shit that happened.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the main article I found about Mead was from the Gainesville Sign. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Lake City behind some dirt.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We don't want to talk about it. Come get me. Watch my taxes and shit go up.
SPEAKER_00:We will give you our address.
SPEAKER_03:Go get me.
SPEAKER_00:But, anyways. So, um, you haven't asked me what we're drinking about today.
SPEAKER_03:What are we drinking about, Lindsay? We've talked about so much. I felt like we we should end the pod by now. I'm sure.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we're we're drinking about the devil.
SPEAKER_03:The devil?
SPEAKER_00:The devil in Connecticut.
SPEAKER_03:That's the fucking theme for this one? The Devil in Connecticut.
SPEAKER_00:The devil in Connecticut.
SPEAKER_03:Not the one that went down to Georgia.
SPEAKER_00:Not the one, no. Uh, this devil did not play the fiddle.
SPEAKER_03:Is this about like some ghost or something that hung out in the woods?
SPEAKER_00:Well, last night, uh, when I came home, you know, we've been, we're we we were off on vacation and we've had busy weekends. So we're trying to catch up on our on our horror movies. So we want to watch some new ones and we want to watch our classics. And last night I came home and I was like, let's watch the exorcist. Well, I didn't even say that, I just put it on while Jesse was in the shower. And when he got out, he's like, I hear the music. Are we watching the exorcist? And I was like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I was not even around to see it, but I heard it.
SPEAKER_00:I had no I had an agenda for that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, for for that and this and that and the other?
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Uh, it's fresh on your brain now.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I just want you to remember everything that we watched last night while I talk about this case.
SPEAKER_03:You know those stairs that those were so creepy. We walked up these exorcists before daylight. Yes, and Silas is over there holding his fingers up because he got to walk up on two. We're fixing to kick him out though soon. Yes. We got to get fired off here. But Lindsay, I am.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna let him fill up his water glass and kick him out. So BRB.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. We're going on.
SPEAKER_00:So in Connecticut in 1980, there were two families that would be tied together the Glatzels and the Johnsons. Carl and Judy Glatzel lived in Brookfield and had four children. Debbie being the oldest, who was 26 at this time, Carl Jr., who was 14, Alan was 13, and David was 11. Silas's age. This is Alan. And this is Alan. So Debbie, she had had a short-lived marriage when she was a teenager and had a son named Jason, and she was a professional dog groomer. She lived in Bridgeport with the Johnson family and had been boarding with them for about four years. The mother of the Johnson family's name was Mary, and she was a divorcee who had four children of her own. The oldest being Arnie Cheyenne, who was 18 at this time, and three younger girls. One was her niece that she had taken on to raise. In Mary's youth, she had wanted to become a nun, but she changed her mind because she wanted a family. And you know, nuns can't do that. They can't be doing the nasty. Can't do both. Can't do the nasty and make babies when you're a nun. So um Arnie and Debbie, they were in a relationship, but they wanted to get a place, a bigger house, not a place of their own, but a bigger house where Arnie's mother, Mary, and the girls would move all move in together. They just wanted a bigger house. Right. Mary had had um some medical issues. I think she had colon cancer. So she, so Arnie wanted to make sure he and Debbie, like they were gonna be the grown-ups, they were gonna get a bigger home, take care of his mother, and then the girls. So they had searched for about six months and finally found a place that was big enough for all of them. And they would be allowed to bring their sheet dog, whose name was George. Oh. Yes. Now, all Arnie had always been the man of the house and even used his paper boy earnings to buy his mom a car.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. He's making bank throwing papers.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, Mary, like I said, she was 42, and like I said, she had colon cancer, and Arnie just wanted to make sure she was taken care of along with his sister and his cousin.
SPEAKER_03:That's some good ass.
SPEAKER_00:His sisters and his cousins. That's nice. The house that they found included an apartment that Arnie, Debbie, and Jason would live in, and then Mary and the girls would stay in the main home. The house was going to cost a little over$500 a month with utilities included. So this was a good deal. I mean, even though this was 1980, this was a big home. So$500 a month was including utilities, was a good deal.
SPEAKER_03:In that area. Yeah, even in the 80s, yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. Because now that would be about$3,000. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, I believe that for sure.
SPEAKER_00:So Mary signed the lease and they paid around$1,100 to move in. Arnie helped Debbie at the Kennels, and he had uh for his work, Arnie helped Debbie at the Kennels part-time, and he had a he had private landscaping jobs, and he was about to start a new job as a tree surgeon. Which I'm not really sure what tree surgeons do. Do you know?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Maybe it's a citrus thing. No? I don't know. I mean they they grew a lot of pines and stuff up there.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I don't know. I did not as you can see from my notes, I put a lot into this case, but I did not Google what a tree surgeon is.
SPEAKER_03:Douglas firs and Christmas trees and stuff. I don't know. Let's look it up real quick.
SPEAKER_00:Hey Google. Could be. What is a tree surgeon? Okay, so basically like landscaping the trees. Right. Okay, okay. Okay. I I was not sure what that job consisted of. So I was just curious as I was reading this because I put it in the because I knew that's what he did, but I wasn't sure what uh what all was involved in that.
SPEAKER_03:Cutting and splashing and doing cool shit with them, like some crazy fucking origami fucking. Yeah, oh, that would be cool too. Yeah, let's go there. That's what he does. That's what he does, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_00:That's what he does. That's what he does. Well, on July 2nd, 1980, they set out to move into the new house. They arrive, and uh they see now. I guess they did not look at this house like at all. Like now, a day. You're gonna go look at your house that you're gonna move into, probably two or three times.
SPEAKER_03:They got a sight unseen.
SPEAKER_00:Sight unseen. What? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Just happy to get out and and prosper.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Because I guess um from the ad in the paper, that they they uh it sound it sounded like everything they wanted, so they were just ready to go.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so they move in, but they are they they get there, they arrive, and they see that it's gonna need some cleaning and some fixing up and some yard work, but nothing that they couldn't handle. So they just go ahead and start moving their stuff in. But then some problems arise. Uh, first, the previous tenant's waterbed was still in one of the rooms, and it took up most of the space in that room. So they couldn't do anything in there. Then the apartment extension that Arnie, Debbie, and Jason, little Jason, her little boy, we're supposed to move into was still being occupied by the landlord's niece. And she reveals that she's gonna be there for at least another month.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, she's locked in there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So they're like, what the fuck? But it's not the end of the world. So Debbie, out of nowhere, while they're while they're getting all this done, she she just starts getting an attitude and she's yelling, which is really out of character for her. And she later apologized and they kept unpacking. Well, Judy, Judy Glatzell, Debbie's mom, she came over with her boys, Debbie's little brothers, for help, uh, to help out. And she brought lunch. And Arnie, after lunch, Arnie gave them all little tasks to keep them busy. You know, okay, you come over here and you sweep. And uh, so it was David's job to go room to room and check the closets and get rid of any garbage, things like that. And uh, like I said, one of the other boys was to sweep, and then one was supposed to go outside and you know, straighten up the yards.
SPEAKER_03:Isn't that beautifully healthy? Like everything is just seeming so amazing at this point. I'm loving it. You know, I can picture like the scenery. You know, we were just up there not too long ago, and it was just like I'm picturing this whole lovely story so far.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Connecticut was one of the most beautiful areas that we rode through. Um, but let me say everything everything nice ends here. I knew it was coming.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I had the plug, dude. I had to make it. I was not done painting the pretty little fucking trees and the pretty little mountains and shit. And the happy little accidents. Happy little accidents and murders and death and carnage you're finna dump on me.
SPEAKER_00:So about an hour later, they hear the boys giggling and found them playing on the waterbed and making waves. Do you remember doing that? Did you ever experience a waterbed? Okay, okay. My parents had a waterbed, and when they were not around, because I came when I got off the bus every day, I was home by myself for an hour. That was the first thing I did. I was jump on their waterbed and make it slosh. I had one up till I was like 16. You had your own waterbed? My own waterbed. Okay, now when I moved out of my parents' house when I was a late teen into me and my me and my buddy Carrie. We moved in together and we shared a king-size waterbed, and it took up her whole room. Right. There was room for a dresser and a TV. That's it. And the dr and the TV was on top of the dresser. I mean, we never, you know, I mean, we we shared the bed, yes, but like we never we were nowhere near each other. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:But playing and doing, yeah. But let me tell you something.
SPEAKER_00:When the heating pump went out in that thing, oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:I turned mine off during the summer, dude. I slept so well.
SPEAKER_00:This was during the winter.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but wasn't it? That was that was awesome.
SPEAKER_00:We had to put like three blankets down to before you because it was so cold. Waterbeds were wild. Yeah, wild times. You you don't you don't hear about them no more. No, why? They were cool, man. They were a mess. They were a mess.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't have our own problems.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I did. So later on, um, years later, when I'm out on my own and I'm a single mom with three boys, this lady at work sold me a waterbed in great condition, yeah, pre-on for$50. Now, the headboard, the frame was beautiful. Okay. I go to fill up this mattress, it is full of holes and it flooded my house.
SPEAKER_03:Holy shit.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You kept pumping the water to it, but unfortunately, like I'm I go outside, I call my mom. Let me tell you something. None of the holes showed their faces till it was full of water.
SPEAKER_03:Well, because you got that lip that you lay down first before you put the mattress in. So it had to fill up past that before you started noticing. Yes, exactly. So that's like 200 gallons before you fucking knew. Right.
SPEAKER_00:So I go outside, I'm calling my mom, I'm crying. Um, can you please bring towels? I don't know what to do. My neighbor overheard me on the phone, like call crying and freaking out. He brought over a 50-gallon shot back.
SPEAKER_03:And that helps so much.
SPEAKER_00:It got F everything.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:So what we did was we ended up getting most of the mattress out of the window where we had put the water hose in to fill it up. We got it out of the window. So most of the water went outside, but half of it was in the house, okay? So we shot back all this water up. We had to empty it a couple of times.
SPEAKER_03:Right, work it out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Work it out. So we shot backed all of this water up and then used the blower, the leaf blower, to blow dry the floor, and it didn't ruin my house.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and you worked your ass off getting that water. All night long.
SPEAKER_00:My kids slept through all of it.
SPEAKER_03:All the drama and trauma.
SPEAKER_00:Everything. Me crying and sobbing that there was an inch of water through my whole home.
SPEAKER_03:I showed up to work one day and there was an inch of water. That was fun.
SPEAKER_00:So that was my experience with waterbeds, but let's go back to this situation, okay?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So David was on the waterbed making waves. Actually, all the boys were. And Debbie got onto them because she's like, This isn't our bed. The previous tenants, she's gonna come back and pick this up, get out of here, go on. And everybody left the room. All the boys left the room except David. Now David would feel what he would describe as two large hands pressing on his stomach, and he was shoved pretty hard onto the waterbed. And what appeared to be a large, strange man had done the shoving. And this man was see-through. The man pointed at him with a menacing look on his face, saying, Beware. And then disappeared. So he left the room quickly, and uh Debbie called for him to come back in that room to help. And David said, No, I will not go back in there. And then he told his mom that he was ready to go home. He's crying, he's upset. Judy said, Uh, we'll go home a little later, and he's like, I want to go now. And uh he had terror in his voice, and he ran outside with the dog and starts crying.
SPEAKER_03:So now you're telling ghost stories over here.
SPEAKER_00:Now I'm telling ghost stories.
SPEAKER_03:Holy shit.
SPEAKER_00:Now the other boys, just a few minutes later, they get locked in that same room and were screaming for help, but no one heard them. And then the door just mysteriously opened back up, and uh they ran out and they're like, You guys didn't hear us, and they're like, No, what are you talking about? Well, Judy, she had been cleaning pretty hard most of the day, and when she was done, everything still seemed dirty. Like a mirror that she had tried to clean over and over was still hazy. She said that she got an eerie feeling when she walked towards the back of the house and questioned her daughter if she was sure that she wanted to stay here. And I was like, Are you sure? You sure, girl? And Debbie was like, uh, all of our money is tied into this house. We have to make it work.
SPEAKER_03:Side unseen, the story was not told.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the landlord's niece, Camilla, she arrived at that time, and Debbie talks to her about when she's gonna move out and when is this waterbed gonna get moved, and where are the keys to the storage room in the cellar? Because they wanted to put some stuff down there for storage, you know. Thoughts I wanna say.
SPEAKER_01:I just can't say them yet. I'm over here like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:You gotta listen for a while. I'm not gonna say shit, but I got thoughts, Lindsay. I got thoughts. Well, Camilla says you can't use that room. And Debbie was like, uh, why? And she's like, Well, you're gonna just gonna have to talk to my aunt about that, but she can't use that room. So Debbie, she was starting to feel defeated at this point, and David was still begging to go home, begging. So they all decided to go back to the Glatzell house. Well, they decided to leave poor George, the sheep dog. They left him in the house.
SPEAKER_03:Behind.
SPEAKER_00:Behind. They all go back to the Glatzels.
SPEAKER_01:They didn't watch the fucking troll movie, man.
SPEAKER_03:No troll left behind, man. No troll left behind. Man, I'd have ran around in my underwear and got that dog and brought him home.
SPEAKER_00:Well, David, he continued to act weird the rest of the night and then finally told his brother Alan, like in the middle of the night. He's like, Alan, I gotta tell you what I saw in this room, okay? So he told Alan that he saw a large ghost man that looked crazy, and he was wearing plaid and old jeans, and had talked to him saying, Be well. He was wearing a fucking band shirt of a band he didn't know about. Probably. It was probably like Black Sabbath back then.
SPEAKER_01:Lynn Skinnered. He was wearing a Skinnered shirt, didn't know sweet home out of the shirt. New England.
SPEAKER_03:What what I mean, honestly, what he was wearing a John Denver shirt. I remember John Denver's full of shit, man.
SPEAKER_00:This is how religiously traumatized I am. I remember my parents like had gone against John Denver for a while. Why? Because he was into the new age. And I'm like, New Age.
SPEAKER_01:And I was like, what does that even mean?
SPEAKER_00:mean this dude's hanging out on he's he's he's just uh hippie he said country god i'm a country boy man country hippie man what's our no that's your parents he was saying country roads take me home don't deny your DNA but I don't know they went back to him because they still listened to him later on in my but for a minute his their DNA the church probably told him that something was wrong with fucking John Denver yeah fuck well anyway so he told Alan about the ghost man and he had told him that the ghost man had pointed at him and said beware before he disappeared and but then David told Alan that he could still see him and his in his mind there was uh he could still see everything that was going on in the rental house the ghost man was tormenting him and the dog like he could see this dog being abused in the rental house yeah like about 15 miles down the road okay so Alan was like okay uh we need to go tell the family and so they did and David now said that the old man had now now that it was dark had changed to a red figure with horns and had told him to take down his holy card of Saint Matthew and that all of the crucifixes in the house better be gone or he David would be punished and Debbie was like okay I am not moving in there where it's not happening. Double double double double double double now David says the ghost man says you cannot tell Miss Johnson which was Arnie's mom that she cannot she cannot know that I exist because she is his he has been watching her for a long time and he wants to break her down and make her do his work he says that if you tell her about him you will be blinded by midnight tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:Fucking hell Lindsay somebody needs to call the mystery mobile man or the Mr.
SPEAKER_00:Machine he also says that he's gonna break that waterbed by three o'clock tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:So bring a mop bitch that's what David tells his sister no neighbor no shop vac no mystery mobile where the fuck Scooby at man we need Scooby doing this bitch.
SPEAKER_00:So the next day they go to the house because now they're packing their shit back up they are not gonna move into this house. When they arrived George the sheepdog looked traumatized and his hair was matted and there were scratch marks where he had tried to get out and his paws were bloody and Arnie Arnie said that he felt a finger tapping him on his shoulder while he was in the house. So then his mother Miss Mary Johnson she showed up with with her girls and they were happy. They were go lucky they were ready to move their stuff in the house and then Arnie and Debbie told her what happened with David and how they did not think that it was wise to move in anymore.
SPEAKER_03:They were like we're we're ready I would be out whenever they said Tippity tap tap tap the rotisserie chicken I'd have been the fuck out.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody touching me we love you Baylin and all of your tourette so much you you make our life better. Well Mary she was pissed she said uh David is just a little liar and I'm gonna move in give me those keys well Arnie and Debbie they moved out Mary moved in and when Camilla came home Debbie told her that they weren't gonna move in anymore and explained what David had saw and she just laughed. She was like girl that's just my grandpa what no big deal he's harmless he's been around here for years.
SPEAKER_03:You got me over here looking like what?
SPEAKER_00:Oh you have to you have to listen so for so long before all this comes together okay then Tammy okay so Debbie they're still there and then Tammy the previous tenant she came to retrieve her waterbed and she said that she had had weird happenings while in the house she said that she heard chickens that weren't there clucking through the night like no neighbors had chickens nobody had chickens around this area. And she said she would hear footsteps in the attic she also said that sometimes she would hear her name being called around 3 a.m3 I said baby.
SPEAKER_03:That is two I know I keep going that way though wait it is three.
SPEAKER_00:It's 3 a.m I'm last pod you said 2 a.m so I had me think but it's 3 a.mitching hour of Lindsay's ghost story now with George Lutz it was 3 15 to be exact to be exact to be exact it still counts man but I can't help but be scared of an old sometime we ain't gonna wash me I'm leaving well guess what happened around 245 p.m that day remember the ghost man had told David that that waterbed would be destroyed by 3 p.m the next day while Tammy was disassembling she accidentally punctured the waterbed boom splashy splash 245 it wasn't quite three it wasn't quite three fucking hell man so anyway so now Arnie and Debbie they and little Jason her little boy they go back to the Glat Souls where David informed them that the ghost man now being called the beast was mad at them and Debbie said well tell this beast to go to hell okay tell him to go to hell i got i gotta say something real quick okay how in the hell do all these ghosts know about daylight savings time I had to put this in here man how in the fuck do they all know about three o'clock I don't know I don't know daylight savings time didn't happen in like 1600s and shit back in the day man what the hell man so actually it was probably two I think like World War II or some shit around there they started daylight is that when daylight savings daylight savings started saving time yeah I said I said delay maybe no it might you know what I'm wearing beetle juice shirt right now and daylight command the one go home yeah yes well I mean I don't know I don't know if it was World War II or not but I don't know because there was like an old Native American dude said only white people would cut six inches off the bottom of the blanket and sew it on the top every six months.
SPEAKER_03:Oh that's you know does that make sense?
SPEAKER_00:Well you know it's been 20 but it's been about 24 hours since the alleged happening with the waterbed and David happened and Carl Jr he is relentlessly picking on David about this shit and this is not normal for him um supposedly he was a good kid and did not pick on his brothers but um he was now he was like little David you're full of shit and Carl Sr. said that it was all nonsense but David would continue to act possessed pretty much he would talk about the beast and his behavior and um David's behavior would continue to decline and this started causing a lot of problems with the entire family. David would have unexplained bruises and scratches and he said that the beast would curse him and belittle him. Judy said that her hair was being pulled out of her scalp and then lights in the house would go on and off and then two more entities come into the chat that they're here now. There's two more entities and then the beast tells David that all of this would stop if he would just give up his soul Judy would tell him to rebuke him in Jesus' name and when he would do that he would be thrown to the floor and he would choke and have seizures and then Judy's like I gotta call the priest time it's time we gotta call the priest holy shit now the priest's name was Father McDonald and um he was the pastor of St. Joseph's Church in Bloom in I was gonna say Bloomfield I don't know why but it's Brookfield and he says that now we believe in good spirits and bad spirits but not ghosts. So this has to be a bad spirit for me to do anything about it. And Judy's like okay it's a bad spirit so Father McDonald hands them some holy candles and it's like go burn these and say some prayers and get back with me if you still have problems.
SPEAKER_03:That sounds like witchcraft it does.
SPEAKER_00:What but David was still tormented so the pastor starts to think that maybe this is made up but David convinced him that it was real so now it was time to bless the house okay we got to come in and we got to bless it. We got to throw holy water and um so after the blessing he tells the family you just need to keep praying just keep reciting Psalms 23 okay but David is now seeing about 40 demons. 4-0 Lindsay 40 now here comes the dump truck of shit you're fixing a dump on yes oh okay just just follow along okay I'm gonna stand here with my mouth wide open. So he continues to be tormented and uh the father contacts the diocese and the diocese is like well I think that you should call Ed and Lorraine Warren. Oh welcome back welcome back welcome back welcome back welcome back now this is only about 12 days after they have tried to move into this haunted rental house okay the Warrens come to the Glatso house with a medical examiner. The Warrens conduct some taped interviews with the family to make sure it was legit. I'm holding up my quotations now the doctor he found nothing wrong with David physically or mentally other than being obese for his age he was just a little he was just a little pudge boy.
SPEAKER_01:You know all the family and everything just seems so wholesome so far.
SPEAKER_03:I just I'm getting it like I believe all of this right now why I don't know but I do.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna tell you something too the first two days of my research on this I was I was starting to really lean in and then and then I was like oh and we'll get to the oh in a little while me yet I wanted to know I'm on I'm on but listen but okay hang on hang on all right like I said all that the doctor found was that um David was just a little too overweight for his age and um I'm gonna tell you something though he is the exact height and weight as our 11 year old yeah in the 80s our kid's huge right but we gotta healthy kids that all these kids all the glatsell boys were beefy. All of them I can't I mean that's just yeah the Warren's diagnosis was that hey you endanger girl and uh this is very serious but you know what we're here to help so Ed decides to start questioning the demons inside of David like how much power do y'all have and the demons responded with a series of loud knocks allegedly then David gets uh he gets like invisibly stabbed and Judy she just starts throwing holy water on him and then Arnie he started he's reciting Psalms 23 and then David throws up is this starting to sound familiar but there wasn't no like green pee puke was it a whole green so then David gets shot with a handgun but like invisibly by the demon by the beast being attacked and the beast tells David that if the Warrens come back he would be sorry now the Warrens had told Debbie to start keeping a journal of all the events that are happening. So she's she's making a journal okay well the Warrens they do come back but they figured out the problem it was all Debbie's fault because uh she had written a paper on witchcraft in high school and she owned a Ouija board little Deborah no so this was all Debbie's fault little Debbie can't do nothing so now she had owned this Ouija board when she was pregnant with little Jason and she said that the Ouija board or the spirit that she contacted through the Ouija board had predicted that she was going to have a boy and had even gotten the height or the excuse me the weight and the length of little Jason correct and the day and time of birth. But those were all fucking not supposed to be used after Captain Howdy well this is before Captain Howdy this is before Captain Howdy okay so this happened in 83 the Exorcist came out in 70 no I'm sorry this was in 80 the Exorcist came out in 73 so it was like right after yeah that's what I was saying Captain Howdy was already but um I'm just gonna say that I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right now listeners my husband this is gonna sound very familiar every bit of this to super familiar but there is no uh mention that this family has watched that movie but it's almost gonna be play for play like Reagan yeah but I think at this at this point that was like pop culture even for then you know everybody knew about that movie that's the one that that's the horror movie My prudish ass mother I love you mom I know she's not listening but I love you.
SPEAKER_03:She watched that movie you know what I mean like everybody you're right who didn't and I caught it when I was a little younger because you know our parents didn't give a fuck but still I caught it when I was younger notes well I mean this movie came out when she was a teen no okay let's see my mom was born so she was in her 20s yeah she was in her late teens so she was about Debbie's age when Debbie had Jason right so when this movie yeah the epic nostalgia of just that movie in existence before that hand I think they caught wind of this I ain't trying to I don't want to fuck with this I felt like it was a wholesome thing but there's a lot of rooted shit from that movie so let me continue and just just wait.
SPEAKER_00:Oh god okay so like I said all Debbie's fault she was the one that had invoked the initial spirit she was the one that opened the door for this to happen to both of these families the Glass and the Johnsons after the Warrens came a second time David said that he was punished and tormented by the beast who David now said was Satan and his band of demons. And on the third visit the Warrens were like okay we got to bless this house like didn't the priest already do that? Maybe that's the problem.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe you need to stop blessing the house well I got to give you kudos Lindsay you brought a band back to this podcast like the last one. I love it. Well it's not a marching band but still it counts.
SPEAKER_00:It's a band of demons that they're throwing holy water around and uh they're they're like you know what we need to schedule an exorcism.
SPEAKER_03:It's time. It's time. Clock in.
SPEAKER_00:After they bless the house they they come back after a few days and this time everything seemed like it had calmed down a bit and David said that the beast and company had had they had gone back to the rental house they weren't they weren't there at the Gladstone house anymore they they went home or when they went to back to the rental house I guess that was home for for a while he had even mentioned something about he saw the beast go into the well of the rental house so I guess he liked the well do you see me lighting up over here because we ain't got no fucking band Randy how many times have I plugged that one dude every time he talking about band the band the white yoke please if y'all don't know this reference please watch Sling Blade iconic film i i mean like iconic film it's got I mean Billy Bob Thornton made that bitch he plays in that bitch he plays Carl Childers then you got the little boy the little country bumpkin boy that grows up and he plays uh the boy in um what's it called football game no no no well he wasn't that too but he was best known for his role in Tokyo Drift yes okay and then you got Dwight Yochum you got John Ritter rest his soul I mean it's just a fucking great movie please watch it we've watched it so many times it's ridiculous. Oh yeah oh and Robert Duvall makes an appearance in that bitch too yeah he was the fucking shitty dad shitty ass dad I mean it will make you cry it'll make you laugh it'll horrify you it's got everything you want in the film like honestly please make another one just do something bob Thornton you're out here doing landman and shit we want more Carl I like landman and shit no no don't get me wrong but still we need more Carl in the in this in the chat so okay so the beast and the and the demons they have gone back home to the rental house and the Warrens were like okay but the spirits may return so be on guard and of course they did on July 24th David said in a disembodied voice his soul is mine I kind of like something other deep and he is now experiencing constant torment and beatings day and night so the Warrens and a priest they were called back to the home of course it's like they're on call now like just steady coming back. Carl Jr. He is still being an absolute jerk according to the family um because he is uh he's he's he's like this is bullshit he's cussing at the family telling that the because he's a he's a teenager okay he's for he's between 14 and 15 well he knows his brother right and um he is telling the he's telling them that they're idiots and uh it's assumed by the family and the Warrens and the priests that the spirits have affected him as well because now his behavior's changed they're not they're not thinking oh he's going through puberty they're like no he's possessed or is that from the outside looking in and being like this is bullshit. Right okay so he says Carl Jr. says that David is mentally ill and his mother is a nut job and uh until their visit to the rental home they had never experienced problems with Carl Jr. They're like yeah I mean like I said they're just they're like well the spirits are possessing Carl too now David was saying things that he couldn't possibly know about allegedly he was using diabolical language speaking in Latin and growling he was acting just like Reagan did in The Exorcist. Holy shit now the Warrens didn't consider him to be completely obsessed or not obsessed but possessed until August 6th and all this all this had started on July 2nd okay so now we're in August uh sixth David now spoke differently he moved differently his looks changed he became violent and things were wild now arnie arnie cheyenne okay so his name is Arnie Cheyenne Johnson he uh he went by Cheyenne mostly but I'm calling I'm gonna call him Arnie because that's that's his first name but he had been like a big brother to the Gladstone boys and would even yell and threaten the beast trying to protect David telling him take me instead isn't that exactly what the priest said you were get the hell out of here Jesus is coming from you ain't shitting you well isn't that exactly what the priest said in the exhaust so David in the voice of the beast said that he did plan on taking Arnie I'm gonna take you to and somebody's gonna die. Easy now Lindsay you're scaring me oh my god now we're a few months down the road and Arnie uh no we're not a few months down the road we're a few days down the road and Artie started his tree surgeon job on August 15th and this was in Bethel and this was about 10 miles away from Brookville. Didn't we drive through Bethel? I think I remember seeing that on a sign while we were driving through Connecticut. We drove through Connecticut for a while Connecticut area thank all that is it was what what did we say it was about four hours from Black Tom Island to um to Norwood Massachusetts yeah we went through Hartford and we went you know that parkway and everything we went through all that I do I I I that sounds really familiar but the parkway was so beautiful it was so beautiful this was about 10 miles from Brookfield and a few months down the road that's where I was that's what I was I was reading ahead I was reading ahead of the class. So David would still be possessed but it was seeming to slow down so Debbie was like okay this is a good time to move me and Arnie and Jason uh into our own place. Now she was no longer employed by the previous kennel but she got a new job working for another one and the owner's name of this kennel was Alan Bono. Now he was a super cool older man but he had a drinking problem and uh he was looking for someone to take over this business. He had inherited it from his family and he was just he was not really into the animal scene um so Debbie was like me a pick me I'm the one for the job. So she took this on full time and Arnie would help her out part-time like after he would get off work from the tree surgeon he would come and help Debbie with the kennels so the big bonus to this job was that there was an apartment on top of the kennels for them to move into. So they were like cha-ching check check moving out yes time to get time to get the fuck out. Now this would happen in November of 1980 and around this time or just a little bit before David does get a couple of exorcisms performed on him by a couple of priests and the Warrens. This is what they would call a light exorcism because they had not gotten full permission from the diocese in the Roman Catholic Church. No real priests are showing up yet well the real priests are there but they are not they're doing this they can't do an actual full exorcism because they don't have the permission from the diocese in the Roman Catholic chair the whole power of Christ compels you well I I'm not I don't know exactly what went on in this exorcism but it was a it was a light one. A light okay but this was not the only one that David would go through okay David would be restrained while demons were cast out of him I think they call this hold on a rebuking or a something like that something something it wasn't a quite an exorcism but it was rid the demons without the full exorcism pre-exorcism I heard one podcaster call it diet exorcism exorcist exorcist low carb low carb exorcism zero sugar so David was restrained while the demons were cast out of him and he growled and snarled and screamed and yelled and spit and cussed and according to Lorraine most of the spirits had left him all but about four. But those four would be the most powerful like the other 37 done left the house right six holy and uh and then David got really violent then he gets kicked and knocked around by the spirits and uh then there would be two more exorcisms performed on this boy uh two more two other times now I I don't know if y'all have uh witnessed an actual exorcism or just seen one on TV but either one do whatever you can imagine your head this is gonna be very traumatic for a child period now in the exorcist the movie I know it's just a movie um but didn't he even say like they didn't really do that shit anymore yeah they had to fucking do this man it was big old fucking cash grab man going to make the money man got to get in there and do the bang but I mean like okay so Ed Lorraine Warren are very famous at this point. You know they have been a demonologist slash clairvoyant team slash in Jesus name for years. And um they really were at the height of their popularity right now because of the exorcist no no no no no oh well I've because of the Amityville case that we just talked about last week. That one too they were riding the fucking high wave man and it just was really convenient that they lived like they lived in Connecticut and they lived right down the road from the Gladwell family like like 10 miles. Perfect it was perfect but anyway so now David he's good he's no longer afflicted but guess who is Arnie oh because Arnie had tested that that beast and me come in to me now Arnie would start start showing odd behavior like cussing in church and just acting like an actual ass, you know but nothing like David nothing uh nothing like David had allegedly experienced it's also reported that Carl Jr. he was still afflicted as well or affected excuse me but after this the church this is all allegedly okay they would completely abandon the Glatzles because they said they had done all that could be done and uh bye we're done.
SPEAKER_03:Or did they run out of money?
SPEAKER_00:Don't call us we'll call you now Carl he would start little Carl Jr he would start acting out uh he allegedly pulled a gun on his family I don't know okay so I I heard in one source that it was his mother and another source it was his grandmother and he was constantly threatening the rest of the family but he targeted Arnie the most like he would fuck with Arnie's clothes shoes cigarettes like started tormenting Arnie Carl little Carl Jr. So now he's not little he's four he's 15 at this point everybody's on the field now. Right and the police even got involved in some of Carl's violent behavior to the point where Carl was on his way to juvenile detention but the Warrens were like no we've worked with this family and uh they worked with the police also and they had worked with the police a lot over the years and they were like he's possessed it's the devil you gotta don't lock him up don't lock him up officers he just needs some Jasons you gotta know that that's real bit of that's real. Oh yeah now things seem to calm down again the Johnsons so Mary uh during this whole time she had cut I mean she had cut ties with her own son. She was like fuck you Arnie leave me alone Debbie fuck you me and these girls are going to be happy in this house but allegedly they did start experiencing some paranormal activity in the rental house so they decided to move out And um the family mended their fences and Debbie and Arnie started to plan a wedding. Unfortunately, when Arnie helped his mother move out of that haunted rental house, another demon possessed him.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome to the fam. Every time you say fucking allegedly, I think about Letterkenny. Allegedly. Allegedly.
SPEAKER_00:Gotta look Letterkinny. We're gonna, we're gonna binge that.
SPEAKER_03:What do you Letterkenny?
SPEAKER_00:So it's a good like January is our Game of Thrones rewatch. So I think that during the day on the weekends, we should rewatch Letterkenny, and then at night we rewatch Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think Letterkenny's good midwinter stuff. We love some Canadian comedy. Oh my I love everything about Canadia. Kannada.
SPEAKER_00:We really do.
SPEAKER_03:I love it. We need to do a train trip, dude, in Canada.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm so Dante Elizabeth James is now back on the talk. And because he he took a hiatus for a little bit because he was getting some stupid false restrictions.
SPEAKER_03:I've seen they did the cruise thing, and it was that was yeah, they're just oh his fucking goofy ass fucking showing his room shit.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god. Every single little speck of the room, and he's like, and yes, this is where the action happens. And he's like, oh yeah, oh yeah. You if you guys don't follow Dante Elizabeth James and his all-American uh time traveling Amish boy, his husband JB, they are the cutest freaking couple. He is the funniest.
SPEAKER_03:I think the dawn of his fame started our podcast because we were like, hey Lindsay. Hey, Lindsay. Oh, that's just my girl Lindsay.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. So yeah, Dante Elizabeth James is a must follow on TikTok.
SPEAKER_03:My kind of gay, dude. Love we love that gay, man. Love it. Love it. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And his and they're they're from they're from Scranton PA, which we love because of the office. Yes. So anyway, so now we're gonna fast forward to February 16th, 1981. Jesse, you're you're all you're in the womb at this point. You were in the womb of your mother at this point, right? No. No. You were conceived in March. I'm still swimming in the bag, bro. I'm still swimming in the bag. Gross. So February 16th, 1981, Debbie's sisters had spent the night with her and Arnie at their new apartment. Now, Arnie, he wasn't really feeling good. So he called into work. He felt like he had the flu. He's like, I better not go to work today. So Debbie and the girls are working at the kennels while Arnie chills out and tries to get better. Alan Bono, their boss slash landlord, he is introduced to the girls and he invited the whole family out to lunch. Now, this was around noontime, and Arnie had slept most of the morning and was feeling a little bit better, so he decides to go with them. Now, Alan doesn't eat, he just drinks. And uh because that's just what he did.
SPEAKER_03:Can't wait for us to retire. That's all we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, we're gonna get a driver and we're just gonna drink.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna be on a cruise ship drinking.
SPEAKER_00:What are you gonna have today? I'm just gonna have a martini with extra olives. That's gonna be my food intake for today.
SPEAKER_02:And half a pickle.
SPEAKER_00:No, we're just kidding. We love to eat. Food will never not be in the equation. Okay, we're gonna experience all the foods.
SPEAKER_03:We're not alcoholics. No.
SPEAKER_00:We just uh But I'm gonna tell you something. Um, with no job to go to, it would be hard not to have at least two drinks a day.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't think we'd let it spiral out of control. You know, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:Uh no, because we have we have shit we want to do. We want to hike, we want to travel, we want to, we wanna do things sober, but we're gonna end the night with a little buzz.
SPEAKER_03:If you're in your 40s, tell us your plans too. We want to know, right? I would love to know everybody's plans. Tell us your plans, hit us up.
SPEAKER_00:Now, like I sent you that video, that one TikTok of that of the thousand people stuck on Mount Everest. We are not climbing Mount Fucking Everest.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_00:No, we're gonna find us two miles is our max.
SPEAKER_03:We'll be lucky to Appalachian Trail. If that.
SPEAKER_00:If that's we need breaks with snacks and drinks in between. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:We would do like two miles a day, and I'm I'm carrying like a uh a I can do three. I can do three. I can do three.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I can do three miles.
SPEAKER_03:We're taking Aaron and Morgan with us though, because they know how to fend off bears.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, so Alan's drinking, and he wants Debbie and Arnie to have a drink with him. And Arnie, he's he's been sick all morning, so he's like, okay, I'll just have one glass of wine. Now, Alan supposedly or allegedly had. Okay, so the waitress that later testifies said that there were 13 glasses ordered to this table. But allegedly Arnie had one, Debbie had none, and Alan had the rest. Okay. Wow. When they get back, so after lunch, Arnie went back, uh, he went back to bed. He wanted a little nap, and he he wasn't feeling good. So he had already been feeling sick. He had a glass of wine, had some lunch. Probably is like, you know what? This is not agreeing with my tummy. If allegedly he had been sick.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, Larry. So do me a favor.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Stop saying allegedly.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I have to because you'll see why. It's all alleged. The whole damn thing is alleged. Later in the day, Debbie she started to feel weird, okay? She felt some impending doom, like something bad was going to happen. And over at the Gladstone house, Judy got the same feeling and gave Debbie a call, and she was like, you know what, girl, you're feeling weird. I'm feeling weird. Bring the family, come over, have dinner with us, and hang out at our house. Now, this was around four, and Judy started calling back every half hour after that. And by 5:30, she says, Hey, I really need y'all to get here. I can't shake this feeling. Get it, get your asses here. Now, by this time, Alan, he was drunk and he was insisting that the family stay for dinner. And even though she didn't want to, Debbie felt bad and was like, Okay, I'll order some pizza. We'll have it in your apartment, and then we'll go to mom to my mom's house. So while they're all eating, Alan, he's still drinking. He's blaring music, and then he turns it up real loud, and then he and then he turns on the TV, but the TV isn't acting right. So he's hitting it and he's just acting belligerent. He puts a hole in the wall. It's just a very uncomfortable, over stimul, overstimulating situation. Me, I would be nuts. I'd be like, fuck you, Ellen. I'm out. But um this this kind of scared Debbie and uh and the girls. So Arnie's like, all right, let's just get out of here. Let's go to your mom's house. So they went to go leave, and Alan he gets pissed. And he grabs one of the girls and blocks her from leaving. And this is when Debbie says that Arnie gets possessed again. And then he started attacking her. Arnie, okay, so Alan's got one of the girls. Arnie starts attacking Debbie, beating the shit out of her. And she's crying and she's praying, God help me make him stop, all the things. But the beast has taken over Arnie. But then he goes away again. But then he sees that now, you know, Debbie's little sister, or the sister or the niece, I can't remember which one, he she is being attacked by Alan. And uh Arnie turns his attention to Alan, who is still holding on to the little girl. So Arnie pushes Alan, and then Debbie got Alan like by the hair, and somehow gets the little girl free, and she tells them to run and go get in the car. So they run down to the car, and then all Arnie and Alan get into a full-on fight. And somehow, some way Arnie stabs Alan five times with his tree surge knife. Lindsay. This is no car, or the girls from the car and Debbie said that they hear animalistic growls coming from Arnie when this happened. But no one saw the stabbing. That just happened like in the blink of an eye. And uh Arnie, he just starts to walk off like he's in a trance. And instead of calling the ambulance right away, Debbie calls her mom. Now someone else called the police. But Debbie calls her mom, she calls Judy, and while she's on the phone with Judy, she hears David, you know, over there at the Gladstone house say, the beast did it, and now he's coming to kill us.
SPEAKER_03:I'm at the plant.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, like, even little Alan, uh, which is one of the other Gladstone boys, he said that he started locking up that he had never been afraid of Arnie in his life. And he starts locking up the house because David says that the beast is in Arnie and he's on there on his way to kill them. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:You got me.
SPEAKER_00:You got me over here puddling. So now Alan, he was rushed to the hospital. He wasn't he wasn't dead on he wasn't dead on the scene, but he was dead within the hour. Yeah. So now there has been a murder. Arnie was picked up around uh uh in in within the next hour, and he was still in a trance. And when they told him why he was being arrested, he was like, What? I didn't kill anyone, you've got the wrong guy. Alan and I are friends. I love that guy. He would say that he had no memory of anything that happened from about 6 to 8 p.m. Now statements were taken, and the two girls that were in the car that didn't see anything, the police kind of came up with their own scenario and just had these girls sign it without a lawyer present. Without they're minors, they're they're little girls. And um they just came up with their own little version and was like, here's sign this. And their little girls are like, This is not what happened. Are you gonna change this? And they're like, Yeah, we'll change it later.
SPEAKER_03:Are you fucking kidding me?
SPEAKER_00:No. Um, there was not good police work done in this case whatsoever, and it was chopped up to a drunken brawl between Alan and Arnie that ended up in murder. That is what basically was written up. Okay. They had to write something. That's fucking crazy, though. It's all crazy. So, Arnie, he does not confess to anything because he has no recollection of anything. So the prosecution, they were able to make the case what they wanted it to be. Arnie is charged with murder, and his defense is that the devil made me do it.
SPEAKER_03:Have you not heard that before?
SPEAKER_00:That is literally what this case is called. Just want everybody to know that. So if you want to look up more detail about it, that is what it's called. The devil made me do it. His lawyer tried to present the entire possession story to the judge, but the judge is like, no, blocked, unfriend, unsubscribed, no. You took him off the wall. Yeah. He was not having it. And unfortunately, everything that had allegedly happened to the Gladstils had been kept quiet. So this was quite a wild story. This was a wild defense. So they turned it around and they're like, okay, um, Alan had grabbed hold of one of the younger kids, blocking her from leaving, which is a crime in itself because she was a minor child. That was kind of like a kidnapping. So they went with that defense that Arnie was just defending her, you know, defending the kid. Well, so experts, they would be um, they would come in and they would evaluate Arnie and they would try to say that he had Tourette's, schizophrenia, and a few other things to try and help this kid out because I do think that Arnie had some problems that were not talked about in the original story.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So now while Arnie is awaiting trial, David he goes through another exorcism. I think this is number three or four at this point.
unknown:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. This was not approved by the diocese. The I mean, the church was fucking done with the Glatzels. Like they were absolutely done with this family. I don't know why, but they were done. So there had to be some issues there.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they didn't stick to their diet, Lindsay. Their diet exorcism.
SPEAKER_00:But Ed and Lorraine insist that another one needs to be done or there would be more tragedies, okay? So they find a church in. I love how you gave love to Canada because they found a church in Canada. Did they now that would oblige to this next exorcism? So allegedly, an hour-long exorcism happened, and when the priest performed this exorcism on David, the beast came out of David and into the priest. The beast says, I am the Elzebub.
SPEAKER_03:Himself. Yeah. But he doesn't do them himself. He always sends all the demons. You have the captain.
SPEAKER_00:For me?
SPEAKER_01:For me.
SPEAKER_00:For me.
SPEAKER_01:So you think you can stop me and spit in my eye.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. So the elderbub has now left David, entered the priest, and the priest expelled him from his own body. He didn't die, like in the Exorcist.
SPEAKER_03:They didn't watch the movie good enough because the devil himself don't fucking put aside for nobody, man. He just wants to send some people, man. And where the fuck is the figurine that was found in Egypt?
SPEAKER_00:You know, where the fuck is that at, dude? I could, of course, I could not rewrite this entire book, but if you guys will look up the book called The Devil in Connecticut, which I'm going to mention here again in a few minutes, every single encounter that David Glatzel allegedly had with the Beast and his band of demons sounds exactly like the Exorcist, the movie. I mean, it is so similar. I was like, is this the Exorcist? Like when I listened, it's a six-hour-long book on audiobook, and I listened to every single word. I was riveted because it sounded just like that's the only way you can digest any of this. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Any of this, you can fucking not get this out of thin air. You have to have something to follow, and they followed it fucking pretty fucking well. Fuck Lindsay, there's some fucked up kids.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So unfortunately, this exorcism of David did nothing to help Arnie. And uh now he's on trial. And he is he's not convicted of murder, but he is convicted of manslaughter. And on November 24th, 1981, he was sentenced to 20 years. Now in prison, he married Debbie and uh he earned some degrees, and after five years, he was released on parole. Out and about. Stabbing a man to death. Out and about. Five years later. Back to the world we come. Right back to right back to society. Now he didn't have any more problems. I mean, I don't he didn't do anything else.
SPEAKER_03:Really? Nothing else? There's nothing else to talk about. Nothing else. Nope. Lindsey.
SPEAKER_00:So here we go. Carl Jr., for the rest of his life to this day, will say that all of this was bullshit. He says that the book, The Devil in Connecticut, the one I listened to, was all lies and fabrication, and that the Warrens completely exploited his family for money and continued fame. He says that David was an undiagnosed schizophrenic and was suffering from hallucinations. David was enrolled in a school for kids with physical and emotional needs. So there's that. So where did the devil go if he was no longer in Connecticut? Well, according to Lorraine, he had achieved his goal by possession and murder. So I guess he just went back to hell. That bitch went to Georgia, man. He did. You know what? But wasn't the devil in Georgia before 1980?
SPEAKER_03:He was definitely in Georgia.
SPEAKER_00:So he had left Georgia after he lost that fiddle contest to Johnny. And he went up to Connecticut and possessed. First, he possessed Butch DeFeo, then the Lutz family, now Arnie or David Gladsel, and then Arnie Cheyenne Johnson. Like the devil was fucking busy. But where has he been since? Now I don't know. This is my humble opinion, you guys, but I really do think. Now I'm gonna do we're gonna have a two-parter on Ed Lorraine Warren coming up. Oh. And uh I haven't done all of my research yet, but I've dived in. I really think that they set off the whole satanic panic. Holy fuck! Oh that's my humble opinion.
SPEAKER_03:Dump truck. The dump truck just dumped.
SPEAKER_00:Stay tuned and see if my opinion is right.
SPEAKER_03:Let me leave something real quick, okay?
SPEAKER_00:But I'm not done.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not done. Can I leave one thing? Go ahead. I can leave one thing. Absolutely. Because I've been quiet over here.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck.
SPEAKER_03:There's no other way to digest this. That is it. Exorcist, right? We got to see those stairs. That was fucking amazing, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the extra. We claimed them.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:We've got them on video. I've even got more murders that happened in Fall River in the future. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So stay tuned for that. We do know about one that happened in the coffee shop too.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I think that that all ties together, but we'll get there.
SPEAKER_03:So for Halloween, it's more Ed and Lorraine. More Ed and Lorraine. All the Jesus money.
SPEAKER_00:All the Jesus money. But we're going to get to them. Well, we're going to come back to them and then we're going to get back to them and then we're going to come back around and then yeah. So what I've learned through more research that isn't mentioned in the book, because the book is, I believe, a complete fabrication. Is that Arnie actually had a drinking problem? That he got violent when he drank. That Debbie had an affair with Alan, Alan Bono. And that was what started the fight. Now, Debbie, I'm saying she's kind of gross because Debbie had been involved with Arnie from the age of 19 when he was 12 years old. Oh, the story. But she had told him she wouldn't officially date him. I'm doing quotations here until he turned 16.
SPEAKER_02:Allegedly.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Now, David would later say that the Warrens told him that he was going to be a rich little boy after marketing his demonic possession.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Chu and Ching.
SPEAKER_00:But guess what? That didn't happen. Um, but the Warrens made a whole lot of money off of him and his family, and even Judy Gladsel realized that they had been conned by the Warrens. It said that the Warrens basically put in David's head the way that he was supposed to act and the demonic sounds that he was supposed to make under possession. And he later admitted into feeding into it.
SPEAKER_03:Cohearst fucking set off with a whole narrative and you put everything together and you try to tie money into it at the same time. Lindsay.
SPEAKER_00:Now he said he wanted attention and by God, he got it, but he was not possessed. Now, they later, him and his brother, Carl Jr., they later sued Lorraine in 2007, who was now widowed, and Gerald Brittle, who was the author of the book that I read, or excuse me, listened to, for emotional distress and invasion of privacy. Their childhood was ruined, and they had become outcasts and dropped out of school early as a result. Unfortunately, David would end up going against his word and went back to saying he was possessed for the Netflix documentary called Devil on Trial.
SPEAKER_03:Devil, Devil, Devil. You got me wide-eyed over here over this one, Lindsay. What a fucking mess.
SPEAKER_00:Carl Jr. says, You ready for this? No, but yeah. Carl Jr. says that Judy may have been putting salmonics in their food for years, which is a sleep aid and with long-term use has been linked to mood swings, weight gain, and hallucinations. Or was it Salmon X?
SPEAKER_03:And Mama fucking round doing the dirt, dude. Damn, Lindsay. You put it together now, it makes sense, I think. Charismatic narrative and a bunch of bullshit all together and a movie with all the right fucking things to do, right? Now there is satanic panic right there.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't I hate to even give. I want to watch the one about this. I want to watch the the Conjuring Universe one about this.
SPEAKER_03:This is like full circle, dude. We were here sitting right here last year talking about satanic panic, and here it is again.
SPEAKER_00:I have haven't I not told you that I have planned out my cases. Look at you.
SPEAKER_03:Look at you, little little Lindsay of yell.
SPEAKER_00:Now, I did not plan on the fact that we would have visited because this time last year, we hadn't quite planned it yet. We started planning this in what December?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful though. God. I love Connecticut. Now you know why I was so enthusiastic about all that, man. Now you know we're gonna have to go back, but I'm not driving though.
SPEAKER_00:No, we're gonna fly.
SPEAKER_03:So you're done? That's the whole thing?
SPEAKER_00:That's the story. For real for this week.
SPEAKER_03:For real, Zees? Lindsay. The dump truck. The dump truck that you dumped on me.
SPEAKER_00:Now, the next two episodes will be a deep dive on Ed and Lorraine Warren themselves and everything that they have been involved in since I think the 40s, no, the 50s or 60s, somewhere in there. Yeah. So what a fucking whirlwind that was.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, wow.
SPEAKER_00:Now, so let me clarify really quick. Everything that I talked about up until Arnie's, up until the murder and the arrest was all from the book The Devil in Connecticut. Wow. Which has now been um, what's the word? Basically, Carl Jr. said it was all BS.
SPEAKER_03:It's all BS. But none of that was a real thing until the Exorcist. None of none of the negative.
SPEAKER_00:No, Ed and Lorraine had been around for a while before that, and we're gonna get into that in the next couple of weeks. So just we're gonna go into the Annabelle, into the conjuring, everything. What? Yeah. Next to the fantastic guy. Oh, oh, they were them. I'm excited. I guess you didn't pay attention to the movies because that's literally who they who is who they are in those movies.
SPEAKER_03:Eduardo and Lorraino doing things. Did you see the picture?
SPEAKER_00:Did you see the picture of them? Hold on.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow. Go back and check that shit out. Start from the beginning. We're doing like a whole series of Ed Lorraine show-ups and there's Ed Lorraine.
SPEAKER_01:That's typical.
SPEAKER_00:Very typical. Fucking typical. So just so you know and our listeners know who may not know who they are, which I'm so I'm surprised if you don't, but if you don't, um, so Ed is a demonologist.
SPEAKER_03:Demonologist.
SPEAKER_00:And Lorraine is clairvoyant.
SPEAKER_03:And he didn't, he was not clairvoyant, but he can be there and understand everything.
SPEAKER_00:He's the science, she's the spiritual, right? But they are religious.
SPEAKER_03:And shoving the narrative right up everybody's asses.
SPEAKER_00:But guess what? They gazillionaires. Gazillionaires?
SPEAKER_03:Jesus money is thick. Dude, can I play a band yet?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. What band are you plugging this week? I'm so excited. You are? I really loved um County Road 400. Isn't that what they were? The last band we played? Yes. Weren't they cool? Yes.
SPEAKER_03:It was like they they um they they ride the country wave, but they're a little rock and roll. It's a good bar band. It's a good, I mean, all around band. Go check them out, right?
SPEAKER_00:Real quick, what was that band that you uh you played for us this afternoon? Oh The Cakes. What was it called?
SPEAKER_03:You're not allowed to talk about them right now.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, then we won't talk about them, but I'm really digging the Butter my bread with butter. No, it's butter, butter bread.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, hold on. We've been jamming so many cool bands. There's so many that we found. It's so amazing. You know what our.
SPEAKER_00:We butter the bread with butter.
SPEAKER_03:We butter the bread with the butter.
SPEAKER_00:That is the name of the band.
SPEAKER_03:I gotta give them a plug because I'm gonna hit them up soon. They were amazed.
SPEAKER_00:And I plugged them back, I put it on their radio, and guess what else fell into their rotation? Was Wage War and Ice Nine Kills.
SPEAKER_03:So awesome.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, yes, all my boys tying together.
SPEAKER_03:So the band that I have this week is called Change My Brain with Cakes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I led you up and made you think that I didn't lead you up.
SPEAKER_00:Oh God. Well, I already know, guys.
SPEAKER_03:I got a preview and already love them. You already love them.
SPEAKER_01:But you didn't know I was gonna play it, so it's like doom, and then doom. I'm excited.
SPEAKER_03:I edited and Lorraine did all over you. Oh my god. Yeah. Read the name of that song we're gonna play.
SPEAKER_00:So the song, oh god, I gotta pull them up on Instagram while we play the song. So the song that we are going to play is called Act of Violence. Once again, the band is Change My Brain with Cakes, and they are from Quebec City, Canada. Bitch!
SPEAKER_03:Canada! We left off with that, and you know what? I got a high five of you, girl. I think we're putting this together and not even knowing that we're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00:The universe just knows us.
SPEAKER_03:Because we don't plan this.
SPEAKER_00:No, not at all. We don't speak of what we are doing.
SPEAKER_03:No, because you know, I'm allowed to do my thing. She's allowed to do her thing. So check out this. It's an act of violence by change my brain with cakes. And you're gonna fucking love it, I swear.
SPEAKER_01:No, we have to find on the ball to pick them up the next one.
SPEAKER_03:Holy shit, Lynn. I love them. Love them a hundred percent already. I keep finding these I love the names. They're like unicorn bands that we're finding now.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:They're like, they're what we aspire to do, and I love supporting it. From Quebec.
SPEAKER_00:I have already followed uh I have already followed them on Instagram and Spotify. And you should do the same listeners because why not? They're amazing.
SPEAKER_03:We play a lot of crazy heavy metal stuff, but we're all around. So if you have a cool band or you know a cool band that wants us to plug, send it to us. Drinkaboutsomething.sight. We're here.
SPEAKER_00:And you can send us an email at drinkaboutsomet at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:You can follow us on Instagram, drinkabout something. You can follow Jesse and I on our personal Facebook pages, which is Jesse Stamba, Lindsay Stanbach. What else am I missing?
SPEAKER_03:Comment on YouTube. I would love to see you.
SPEAKER_00:Comment on YouTube.
SPEAKER_03:We see them every week, but I want to see more. I love it. Good or bad, I don't care. Send us shit.
SPEAKER_00:So I did some shout-outs last week. I'm gonna do a couple more shout-outs. So my bestie Cindy and my bestie Jojo also avid listeners are little niece poo, Chelsea. I know.
SPEAKER_03:She is loving it.
SPEAKER_00:She's loving it. And um uh there was one more. Oh, and I can't. Oh my god. All of all of you guys, I love you so much.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:We love you. Thank you for your continued support. Comment, share, like, subscribe, do all the things, help us, help us, help us grow.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you for all the love and LR.
SPEAKER_00:We're in our second season now, and uh, we want to keep growing. Um our uh I'm manifesting this to be our full-time job. That way we can give you guys more episodes.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I would love to do this. I mean, I I wouldn't love it because you got me in this fucking seat all the time there, Lindsay, but you know, I would love it.
SPEAKER_00:We can do so many more. Yes, so many more, so many, so we can do so many different things right now because we do have full-time jobs. I'm limited on the content that we can put out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, share and support, though, if you dig it, right? And uh, you know, send some comments, good, bad, whatever. We got merch, we got everything on the website, and we keep putting out more and more for you guys, and I'm loving it. Lindsay, I really am. And this is a whirlwind shit storm you got me in now. Ed in Lorraine time, all throughout the holiday season. Halliday season. The holiday season. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Uh we'll see what flippity flop.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, keep going, keep going. Talk about some socks or some shit. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:And I like a good pair of funky socks.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, beetle juice socks. Yeah. Yeah. He'll be coming down the gym near down, except for we don't give a shit about Christmas really too much. We love Halloween. This is our.
SPEAKER_00:So stay tuned for our recap on this episode. Stay tuned for our recap on Halloween Horror Nights Orlando.
SPEAKER_03:Ooh, we're fixing to go down here the next one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we're heading down tomorrow, so by the time this comes out, it'll be a week from now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, maybe we'll pan around real quick and do a couple little snappy snooze while we're down there.
SPEAKER_00:We'll give you a little review on the haunted houses that we experience while we go down there. Yeah. And um stay tuned for our two-part episode on Ed and Rain One. Two our two-part episodes or two-part series. There we go.
SPEAKER_03:Series. Series. Seriously, series.
SPEAKER_00:We love you guys so much, and we will see you next Friday. Well, actually, next Wednesday, next Thursday, next Friday.
SPEAKER_03:We'll see you in the fuck ever, dude. Check out the book. We love you so much. Yes, we love you so much.
SPEAKER_00:And keep it spooky. Because we do.
SPEAKER_03:Keep it real.
SPEAKER_00:Keep it real. Keep it real for real. And uh hey, don't forget to um tell us your thoughts on the DeFeo family, the Lutz family, and now the Glassel and Johnson family.
SPEAKER_03:And Edward and Lorraine.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, tell us what you think. Give us your thoughts, give us your opinions, give us your intellect. Maybe you know something that I don't know. I I definitely know that you know a lot more than Jesse knows. Because he lives under this uh little country bumpkin rock over here. He keeps playing with his nipple. Dude, my shirt's got a hole in it. He's wearing his Captain Spaulding shirt that I got in. So hold on, lift up your beard so I can read the whole thing. It says Captain Spaulding's world-famous, tasty fried chicken and gasoline. It just tastes so damn good. Exit 13 off Route 1 at Rugsville. So that's definitely from our Rob Zombie Doo Doom Doom. Uh, which this is from House of a Thousand Corpses. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Come on in.
SPEAKER_00:That's his favorite song. Jesse loves this movie. He loves the song, and he loves Captain Spaulding. Rest in peace, said Hagen. One of these days we'll have Rob Zombie on our fucking podcast. Oh. Manifesting and Sherry Moon. Do I get to hang out with Sherry Moon?
SPEAKER_03:Dude, we're gonna have such a great time.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I just want to go look at the show.
SPEAKER_03:I won't even play music or talk about music. I swear, Rob is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Rob can just have it. Or movies or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:We're just gonna hang out. We might talk about clothes a little bit. Probably talk about clothes.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, because a lot of people don't realize that. That was Rob's initial job. Well, he was a designer.
SPEAKER_03:He is so awesome.
SPEAKER_00:And his clothes are impeccable. Yes, Lindsay. Very cool.
SPEAKER_03:Let's wrap this thing up. We got so much to do.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I love you so much. We're gonna see you next week. Have a great week. Keep it real. Keep it spooky. Love you, bye.
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