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Hey Jesse! Hello, Lindsay! Happy Halloween, everybody! Holy shit, holy fucking chat! Holy shit, holy shit! It is our favorite time of year.

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It's the most wonderful time of the year.

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For us is now we love Christmas too, but Halloween is where it's at. Yeah. We love the fall smells. We love the spooky vibes. We love handing out candy.

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We feel like the spectrum has changed. Like, okay, you you look at the swing of things, right? In our in our livelihood and growing up as humans, right? We're in our 40s. Almost in our mid-40s, Lindsay.

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Shut up. You're closer.

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But okay, everybody put into Christmas, right? It was a huge thing. Halloween was just like a little bit. But now I think the whole spectrum has swung more toward Halloween a little bit. I think it's about half and half now.

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Gee, this is my this is just me speculating.

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Speculation.

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Because most of us were uh raised that. Okay, I'm gonna say we'll say 70% of America, not speaking of other countries, um, because I'm just not sure. We're raised very religiously. Oh, we're Bible building. And we were told that Halloween was the devil's holiday. We were raised, uh, our generation was raised during the satanic panic. So Halloween was kind of scary for for the religious folk who believed that the devil was scary. And you, especially me, who literally lived with the fear every single day that I was going to get left behind or I was gonna go to hell for everything. I mean, literally everything. I love it.

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Why don't they just have where they were supposed to be in ascending or something just here recently where everybody was supposed to survive the rapture?

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The rapture.

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Like, comment, and share. Well, this is perfect because this is literally what you wrap your whole October around with satanic panic. So we did this last season, and now we're in season two, and you're doing the same thing. How deeply ingrained is that to everybody that's listening right now?

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I mean, I still have friends in our generation, you know, late Gen X, uh, millennial early or elder millennials who are still very much religiously traumatized.

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Yeah, and you just live, you ride that wave.

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And now that some of that has died off, yeah, our eyes have been open. We are a little more woke, if you want to say. I don't care what anybody says about that. We are awakened to reality now because there is more information at our fingertips. And I like that. Because now, when I met Jesse, he knows. When I met Jesse, I was scared of a lot of things because of my religious trauma.

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And I've always been kind of a relaxed dude, but I've been around a lot of crazy shit. So I'm just like, eh, we'll be all right if I can, you know, I've lived through it before.

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But I have slowly let go of that. And I'm gonna be honest, like it, I have I have to give Jesse most of that credit because after our child was born together, and even with my older boys who I brought into the relationship, who were also afraid of scary things because of um some family members religiously traumatizing them, the more and more that we exposed ourselves to horror movies and scary and spooky things, the less we were afraid of everything else.

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So, what was your number one thing? And I'm laughing because what was your number one thing that was instilled upon you during satanic panic? What was your number one fear that someone just dumped on you and this is a thing, it's gonna fucking happen. You better fucking The fucking rapture the rapture itself. Yeah, you know, because they used to have that was the Halloween thing to do was to go to the church and watch the tribulation. That's what they called it.

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I was in that. I was in tribulation, I participated in that play.

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And we talked about that before I guess is what you would call it. My friend's production. My friend played the beast a bunch.

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I was I was the demon in hell, and then I was an angel in heaven. This is a this is a production that a local church of ours did, was very well known for it every year, where you would go through it was like a haunted house for Christians.

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Yeah, they made global news because when they when they uh assembled the church, they put the cross and the the Jesus on the cross.

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Remember the the I was there, I went to that church.

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The crown of thorns.

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I went to that church when all that happened. I was a member of that. I was in all that. The global news of the church. It was just a cracked light bulb. Oh, it made the shadow like look like Jesus Christ. Made the shadow look like Jesus Christ. And this shit literally made global news. Global news. I was in that service. I was in that service.

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Right there. Yeah. And I remember I went to a couple of um revivals in front of that. They used to have a fucking half pipe out front there. Remember that? Yeah, that was cool.

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I went there, I went to that church. I wasn't member.

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Of course, I hung out with the half pipe. I sang in the choir, I did the whole thing. All the devil worshippers next door over there. That half pipe, I'm sure they probably talked about it.

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Right there on uh right on the corner of St. John Street.

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Yeah. So you were in all of that. Yes. And we were like intermingled so much in our little small town. That's insane.

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We've had a long ass cold open here, but basically, what we're saying is now our eyes are open. Yeah, we love Halloween. We love everything spooky. We pretty much celebrate it all year long.

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So welcome to Halloween. Welcome to Satanic Panic, Lindsay. What are you drinking over there? Shit.

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I'm having a mixture of Vista Bay lime and Vista Bay lemon. I made me a whole little sprite in my Bucky's cup. That is fucking awesome. I know. Yeah, I love your cup. Lemon and lime. And it glows in the dark. If you want to see what it looks like, watch our recaps on YouTube. Yeah.

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Awesome. So awesome. And what are you drinking? It's my most favorite thing I've ever drank in my whole life.

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Is it are we going old school?

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Ginzelotti. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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And tell our listeners what this is. Yeah.

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Captain Morgan spiced rum and pineapple Fanta. It goes together.

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And um back in the day, I had a slushy machine. So we would put some ice in there and we would make that. And it was a f- we made a frozen drink and we called it ginzelati. But uh Lindsay's kidneys no longer like dark liquor.

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They don't like the ginzelati.

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And uh the sugar content in the pineapple fanta, my pancreas cannot process. So now that is why I drink seltzers.

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So we need like a diet Fanta and some clear spiced vodka, and we can make it happen again. Yeah. Me and the captain making it happen.

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And yeah. And we're gonna kick this thing off. Happy Halloween. Happy Fright Day.

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Yes, everybody, here we go. Yeah. So ready for all.

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Right now we have a sixty-six quart tub almost full to the brim of candy to pass out to the wonderful children and adults and teenagers. We don't give a fuck. If you come to our hood, you're getting you're gonna get candy. Yeah, and we you know what? We even have some some these little shots that we should uh be like, hey, you guys, you guys want to shot?

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Oh, the adults.

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If we see some like stressed out looking parents, only well, we're not gonna push it on you. We're just gonna ask.

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You know the ones with the cup, like us. Yeah.

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If we see them with a cup, be like, hey, you know, see your rattle cup there.

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Shoddy was shoddy.

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So our tradition here is we're decorated, of course. Um, we pass out the candy, we have the whole little setup, we've got fog machine, we have Halloween music, we have a whole taco bar set up on our back porch for in-between snacks and for our family and friends who want to come indulge in some tacos.

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Yeah.

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And it's gonna be on a Friday night. We can go all night long.

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All night long in sweater weather.

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In sweater weather. Yeah. And then once it gets dark, Jesse puts a movie on the projector for our in our garage because it's all white. And it's just a blast. We fucking love Halloween, man. We look forward to it all year. It's come around really fast, but it's almost here. And uh, we're still excited for it no matter what. But we win.

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I see you over there. You're super excited.

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Am I lit up? I am lit up. I'm so excited.

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Kevin Hart is like so excited.

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I love it. So we've already introduced a couple of the Warrens stories for you guys, and we're gonna keep going for a couple more episodes, and we're gonna look into the background of the Warrens. But first, Jesse, what I have a question for you. Uh what made you feel old this week?

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You whispered that. What made you feel old this week? But you whispered it again.

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No, don't uh uh we went to Halloween horror nights, man, and I was fucking dead the next day. We we trooped, you know, we were troopers. Come on, we nailed it, but the next day.

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I want you to shut the fuck up because the next day, your girl had to go to work on her longest day of the week. You did. Sunday is my longest shift. I love it because I make me some money. It sets off the week correctly. So we started out on our journey around 1:30 p.m. Um on October 18th. Down, we trekked our way down to Orlando to meet up with some friends, my bestie Cindy, and her guy Jason, who have both been guests on our pod. Yeah. And we met up with them and they we did it right. We Ubered from their hotel.

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We just discovered that. So if you're in Orlando or you're anywhere, any fucking where, and you have a hotel room, just Uber to your destination. If it's if it's within like, you know, 10, 15 minutes, whatever, just grab an Uber, dude. You don't have to pay for parking. Yeah. 30 for parking there. So fuck that, right? We save money doing that, which would have been$60 because we couldn't all ride together.

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Well, yeah, we could have. Well, no, we couldn't because we were going home and they were going to the room.

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So Uber in from the room from now on, lock that in. That is like gold information right now.

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Yeah, save your save your money for drinks in the park because they aren't cheap. No, and we went ham. We did. We're gonna make that a quick recap, real quick. We were gonna do a separate video, but we already did two recaps. So quickly, we get to the park. We have some drinks uh at City Walk while we're waiting, uh, so we can wait on the gates to open.

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Yeah, Margarita Ville gets the show. Art the clown. Well, before that, though, we went real quick. We had to go to the fucking hard rock, dude. And we seen Pantera's fucking.

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We saw the the Vinny boys, the Vinny, the fucking Vinny Paul's drum set, right? Was it we saw what is their last name? Oh my god. Daryl and Vinny Paul. Yeah. Uh we saw their why can't I think of their last name? Abbott. Abbott. The Abbott Boys.

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Yeah, the Abbott Boys.

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God, I didn't even have to Google it. Thank you. It came to my head. We saw their drums and guitar. They are lined up right beside, and we get to go back there for uh Trivium and Ginger in December, and we're gonna have dinner at the Hard Rock, and we're gonna rock the fuck out at the Hard Rock. It's gonna be a new venue for us, and we're very excited. But it is a tradition for us now to literally see Ginger every year.

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On the in the line, though, we we we did that, got in the line, seen art on the way in. That was awesome. Did our first haunted house. That was fucking epic.

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And there's little things all along the streets and everything. So it's it's just it's all haunted. It's all great. The scare zones. We did uh hatchets and hatchets and chainsaws first, which was around the um the Simpson ride. And then we walked around some more. And I mean, the it's hard to accomplish every single house because the lines are atmosphere.

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You know, I would be good with going to Halloween Horror Nights and just walking the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And that's pretty much what we did. Yeah.

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The water show too.

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We watched the water show, and that's always epic. So we would do a house, drinks, potty, house, drinks, potty, house. We only accomplished three houses before about midnight. Yeah. So then we decided to walk the streets, have another drink, then we Ubered back, and then Jesse and I had to go home. Yeah. Now we were sober at this point. We got snacks, we got gas, we did all the things, and uh, we had gotten uh uh the voodoo dozen at voodoo donut. Once I had, because I really I can't, I I should not have the sugar that I took that day. I had the orange dream sickle donut, which was fucking amazing. Oh yeah, and I felt like the biggest fat ass eating it because it was like oozing cream filled out at each side, and I didn't care. I was just shoving it in my mouth.

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I just got all over the whole car, dude. I found shit for two days. Like I did clean the car the like a couple days later, I was like, I need I need to clean this shit up, dude.

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Well, we were like eating in the dark, so it was whatever. But um, the orange dream sickle donut from Voodoo Donut was amazing, but it put me in quite a coma. And I tried to stay awake with Jesse while he is driving, and we were both struggling very hard, but we made it home safely. And we uh realized, and that is exactly what made me feel old because the next day my ass had to get up and go to work from 12 to close. Wow.

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Yeah, it was a hell of a trip for sure.

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But we made it, we made it. But now that we have flapped our jaws for about 15 minutes, let's get into what we're drinking about today, which is the Warrens.

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Ed and Lorraine.

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We've already we've already talked about them a couple of times, but we're gonna go um into a little backstory.

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So we're gonna tap in the Ed and Lorraine vein.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes, we are.

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It's gonna make you go insane.

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And I just want to say at the top here, um, like a good researcher would do, I listened to a lot of their interviews, a lot of their um, their little show that they had. And I mean, that just I can't find the I can't find anything that can convince me of the authenticity here.

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Yeah, and at this point, I'm halfway still on the fence. I'm gonna give it a little bit. They're showman. I'm gonna give it a little bit. We'll just put it that way. Really? They're like, whoa!

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I mean, yeah.

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Hell yeah. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is the moment you've been waiting for.

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Okay, I'm gonna take a sip. Lubricate the pipes. Show me what you want to go. I love that movie. I do, yes. We love it. We love Greatest Shimon. So, Edward Warren Miney. I don't know when he dropped the Miney, but he wasn't always just Ed Warren. He was Edward Warren Miney.

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But not a hermioney, but just a regular mine.

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Just miney.

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Okay.

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He was born September 7th, 1926 in Bridgeport, Connecticut. We were just there last week. Yeah. Like, not in real life, just in spirit, because that's what we were talking about. And Lorraine Rita Moran, I have family members with the last name Moran. Yeah.

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You're talking about your family over here, Lindsay.

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She was born January 31st, 1927, also in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Maybe that's why the devil was in Connecticut. I'm sorry. Okay, we're gonna.

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Maybe they're the double, double.

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So the two met when they were 16 years old at a movie theater where Ed was working as an usher. This is back in the day when they still had ushers.

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So you're painting a beautiful story right now, Lindsay. I love it. Yeah.

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They were both devout Catholics, which was inherited from their families and seemed to be a trend in New England. Like honestly. New England, y'all love y'all some Catholicism.

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Yeah. We did see a lot of amazing churches.

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Yeah. I mean, they are they are a sight to be seen for sure.

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By the way, Lindsay, before you start all this right here, welcome to group seven, everybody. I just wanted to say that. Because we said we were going to invite you to group seven.

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Yes, group seven. So Ed went off to fight in World War II with the Navy branch. But first, before he did that, he went with the Marines, but they found out he was underage. So they were like, nah, you can't be in here right now. So when he got of age, he went with the Navy, and that was in 1941. Now, his ship sank in 1945. And like he certain he survived. And that granted him a 30-day survivor leave, upon which he came home and married Lorraine. And uh their one and only daughter, Judy, she was born shortly after, like nine months later, on January 11th, 1946. So my birth mother was born that year. So she would be in her 70s. Late 70s. Yeah. Late 70s. So Lorraine claimed that she was a c a clairvoyant from very early on, and even said that she, if she was to have a child, she would have to do it young or she would miss her opportunity. And Ed said that he was introduced to the paranormal as a young child when the ghost of his family's mean landlady would haunt him. He also said that he would have reoccurring dreams of a nun. They got a couple of movies out in the conjuring universe about the nun. And uh this nun would tell him that he would be a helper to priest, but never a priest himself. So he would become a self-taught and self-proclaimed demonologist. A demonologist is pretty much someone who studies the nature, the origin, the behavior, and the folklore of a demon, which is different from a ghost. A ghost is a person who once lived and now you know roams the earth as a spirit. But a demon is an entity that was never alive, part of Satan's army.

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But you can't get away with none of this shit in any other religion. Because if you do any of what they're fucking talking about right now, that's fucking blasphemy. That's fucking witchcraft. That's fucking, you know, you're not.

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Well, in the in the Christian religion, like um, which what I grew up with was more a modernized Pentecostal. Um or non-deni. They were non-denominational, but they they did a lot of the Pentecostal things as far as like speaking in tongues, hooting and hollering and dancing for Jesus, you know. All of that was considered uh of the devil itself. Like clairvoyancy, um, you know, any kind of psychic. Like my dad told me psychics were the devil.

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That's why I pulled up my little soapbox right now, because all of that is a bunch of fucking heretic, fucking crazy shit right now that they used to hang people about. Right.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, they do.

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But Catholicism is different than what I grew up with, like a hundred, like very different.

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It used to be way more reserved. Everything has changed even in religion itself.

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I think everybody's I mean, my dad talked bad about Catholicism itself.

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Yeah, and you know, I think he is more on track now religiously, and he's the most religious person I've ever seen in my life. Ever. And he is on track religiously now way more than I think he has ever been because he has stepped away from commercial churches and stuff. Yeah, so I mean he's he kind of woke too a little bit there.

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Yeah, but it's different. I still don't agree with like 90%. I love my dad, uh, but I don't agree with 90% of his views.

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So he's he's working at it to his own his own thing, and I think it's healthier than it's ever been. Uh if you can look back in your childhood.

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For his generation, he is a lot more enlightened. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, we won't say woke for his because he can't stand that. Yeah, he talked about we'll say he's more enlightened and open-minded.

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Yes, he might.

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We'll call it that.

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Yeah, yes.

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We'll call it uh light, enlightened and open-minded to different things because he has he has also dispelled a lot of the bullshit, like the Jim Jones type shit, which he was raised in.

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You know, the charismatic witnessed all that. Yeah. All the way from what we're talking about now. Shit.

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That's a lot. The Warrens would make a career out of help helping people out with their devil issues while also spreading the word of God. They started out by being landscape painters that would read about haunted house stories in the newspaper, and then they would go and sit in front of these houses and paint them. And then so they had it, they attended when he came home from the war. I don't know if it was PT, I mean, I if he does have PTSD, he didn't like do combat or anything, but his ship sank.

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Right, he went through some wild, man.

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So it was hard for him to be a regular member of society. So him and Lorraine went to art school together. So they would paint these houses and then offer the paintings to the owners of the house in exchange for stories of what was going on in this house. Allegedly, you know, alleged activity, paranormal activity that they were possibly experiencing. I get that. That's really kind of cool so far. Yeah, so far, right. And I'm gonna go ahead and say this right off the rip, too. They never charged for their services of what they did, but they still made a whole lot of money.

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Exactly what I was talking about when I said Jesus money, because it does come in later on, because yeah, their whole aspect was like, we're gonna come in here and do this shit for free, but we're gonna grab everything we need to do.

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We are definitely gonna market the shit.

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We're gonna create the shit storm in the aftermath, though, Cha Ching, right? Yeah.

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So they would sell these paintings at art auctions. And uh, like I said, this is before they made a multi-million dollar career out of the books and the movies and everything else. Well, Ed, he would drive a bus to make ends meet. Okay, so he was a bus driver. And uh in 1952, they founded the New England Society for Psychic Research, or Nesper, where this was basically like uh a Ghostbusters hotline. You could call them up and tell them what was going on with you, and they would go investigate it. And Lorraine would use her. I'm doing quotation clairvoyant powers because I just don't know. I don't know this lady. I I what I've seen so far, I've I'm I'm not convinced.

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So if there's something strange in your neighborhood in your neighborhood, Warren.

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That was you, Lindsay.

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Shut up, shut up, Lindsay. I love you. Shut up.

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And and and and and you know, they would help they would try to help you get rid of this problem. Now they did not have a proton pack. They weren't like sucking it out, but um Is that what they did? Yeah, sucking out the demons. So they would help they would try to help you get rid of the problem, or they would tell you, girl, you need to move, you know. Yeah, I painted this whole picture. I'm doing it, I'm using girl as a general neutral, gender neutral preference here, just like dude.

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I always say dude all the time. I say dude all the time, dude. I mean it together, dude.

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I'm dude, he's dude, she's dude. We're all dude. Welcome to Good Burger, home the Good Burger, may I take your order? Now, Lorraine would say that she could read the auras and predict the future. And then Ed would help you with deliverance from the demons by telling you why you had them.

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So, like a regular deliverance, not like the one with where you go down a creek with a paddle and there's this one dude that says he has a pretty mouth and all the, you know, all that stuff.

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Side story real quick. Jesse, uh, okay, so when we met, like I had already heard the dueling band. I'm refilling my cup real quick with the rest of my.

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You hear all the rattling and in the store. With my lemon and lines slurping and the the stuff during all of our podcasts. And I love it because this natural kitchen and sharing stories. They're a little table and all the little like things that go on. Bump in the night.

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Okay, so side story. Uh, when I met Jesse, I had never watched the movie deliverance. I had heard of the dueling banjo. I have I had heard that.

SPEAKER_03: 25:31

Right, and the whole joke, paddle faster. I'm hearing banjos. Yeah.

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You sure do have a pretty mouth. And Jesse's like, you haven't watched that movie? And I was like, no. So I don't know why. Okay, so this was back when you still had to order movies from Netflix and get them in the mail.

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Yeah.

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And it was about a year before the actual streaming. I had the streaming, but we still ordered the movies. Like, you could do both. So we ordered deliverance, and I don't know why, but we chose the night of my work Christmas party. And when we had people over afterwards, like we had the after party at our house, but the after party was all of us sitting down watching deliverance.

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Nobody had seen that shit either. Not only two.

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There were two other ones, but they were like, we haven't watched this in a long time. Let's do it. Because I work in a restaurant, so the age of the coworkers is wide.

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Yeah.

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We got old, we got young, we got middle, like, and we were all there in our tiny ass living room back then, watching deliverance, like with our eyes wide open and our jaws to the floor. And uh, I don't think I've ever been the same since I I it'll be hard for me to re-watch that movie, yeah, to be honest.

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So I've broke her on so many different things. Yeah, that was a really cool deliverance for you there, Lindsay. That was like what, 30 years later? Because I think Ned, is it Ned Beatty? He was from Paintsville, Kentucky, where I kind of grew up in that in that town. I was horrified. And and that's why we knew it. It was like that was DNA for me, dude. You know, he was the Hollywood movie star from our town. And he was in, he was the guy that squid like the pig.

SPEAKER_00: 27:08

Like that made okay, so that same feeling that I got in the pit of my stomach watching that scene is the same feeling that I got when we watched the Ted Bundy movie with the necrophilia. Like it's just it's a different kind of gross. It's it's it's a whole different kind of gross feeling.

SPEAKER_03: 27:27

You feel dirty, you feel like you just can't get away from it. It's it's it's enveloped all over you. You can't fucking shake it off from you.

SPEAKER_00: 27:33

I hate when so when I hear stories of um what we'll call them grapings, it it will especially when the the victim is already passed on. But period, with grapings, like I don't know what it is about Annalie. It just really makes me because if that's not something that you want to do, period, it in any in any sense at all, it's horrible.

SPEAKER_03: 28:01

I don't know, just huge fear, Lindsay, is spilling it right here.

SPEAKER_00: 28:05

Yeah, it's uh it's a whole different kind of horror for me when I see somebody, whether it be fictional or or realistic, yeah, when I hear about stories like that, I'm I'm done. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 28:19

Well, if she's spilling the beans right here. Sorry, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 28:24

All right, so back to the story. They would tell you if your house fit into these three sensitivities before they would declare your house haunted. These all were sensitivities like made up by them though, okay? So you could smell like sulfur or decomposition in a haunted house, and the three stages were infestation, oppression, and possession. They added a couple more too, but those were the main, the other ones were kind of just like side.

SPEAKER_03: 28:55

I think there were like seven groups there.

SPEAKER_00: 28:57

Probably group seven. Yeah. Yeah. So during infestation, the demon will create fear like random knocking, moving objects after the haunted what has either willingly or unknowingly invited a demon into their house or life in general. This could be done by a seance, a Ouija board, or even playing Dungeons and Dragons. Remember how that was a big fear. When I was growing up, I heard like we you and we've played Dungeons and Dragons and had a fucking great time at it. And I would play it again when we get us a little team going that is dedicated to it. But yeah, Dungeons and Dragons was a huge fear of my childhood because I literally was told that this game would make a person murder another person, it could make you unalive yourself. Like, how there was so much lore in the Christian world. Well, I'm just saying in the Christian lore, when you're deep into it. It's like I was. That's stuff that's told to you all the time. Just lore behind all of this stuff.

SPEAKER_03: 30:07

Like during Satan. You're not allowed to have an imagination. Nope. That's basically all it boils down to because how many Star Wars movies were you're allowed to watch? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00: 30:18

I watched the original ones growing up. I was allowed to watch those. I don't know why. That's like deep. But I didn't watch them at home. I didn't watch them at home. I watched them at a friend's house. There you go. But it was at a friend's house whose dad was deeply religious. So, and they were Baptist.

SPEAKER_03: 30:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 30:35

So it's very growing up here was, and I'm sure that many of our listeners understand deep religious roots. I know our avid listener, Mary, she grew up like I did. She understands. Hello, Mary. We love you.

SPEAKER_03: 30:52

Oh, she's the she's the one that's been following us. Yeah, she's she is. I think that's kind of our number one follower right now, Lindsay. Hello. Absolutely. That's awesome. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00: 31:02

So the demon would take over your mind, which would be the oppression stage, and then you opened yourself up to be possessed. Oppression was when the afflicted will experience bad smells and moans and screams and whispers and visions, levitating, mysterious cuts and scrapes. I still have no I personally, if you guys, you listeners know of something that is legit and want to share it with us, we are open to that. But I've never seen actual legit harm being done spiritually on someone. Evidence of a spiritual demonic uh injuries, other than in movies.

SPEAKER_03: 31:45

I would want a stigmata done. Oh god. That was wild. Full stigmata.

SPEAKER_00: 31:50

I remember when I watched, did you watch that movie? That was wild. Yeah. So, like in last week's case, it was, you know, supposedly Debbie's fault for using a Ouija board. And then her brother and her fiance became possessed. Now, Ed would say that it could have happened a week ago or years ago. Like there's a wide range of how you could, or how a demonic entity could possess you. You never know when it's gonna happen. So in 1970, the devil was really popular. Okay, so Black Sabbath and metal artists alike were being accused of Satan worship. Charles Manson had done his thing, which we're gonna cover in the future. And the fear of the devil was very fucking real. Like you can't deny that. It was thick. It was thick, boy. Okay. So Donna Jennings, who lived in Hartford, Connecticut, she was a nursing student with a roommate. Her mother gave her a vintage Raggedy Ann doll on her birthday. I had a Raggedy Ann doll. Did you have it a Raggedy Andy?

SPEAKER_03: 33:00

No, we couldn't afford that. She doesn't wait too real now.

SPEAKER_00: 33:02

All right, so our listeners comment who had Raggedy Ann and who had Raggedy Andy? If you had, if you grew up in the if you were born in the 80s, grew up in the 90s, well, actually, these dolls were made way before that. So, period.

SPEAKER_02: 33:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 33:16

Tell us when you had your Raggedy Ann Raggedy Andy doll. I did too. I loved Alf.

SPEAKER_03: 33:22

So the stuff is my favorite alien. As a kid, which is this is this is trauma for me. Trauma dump right here. Can I trauma dump real quick?

SPEAKER_00: 33:28

Trauma dump. Trauma dump with Jesse. We're gonna do a trauma dump candy salad with our Halloween candy before we pass it out.

SPEAKER_03: 33:36

Well, you should do it after.

SPEAKER_00: 33:38

We don't have, but we won't have any left.

SPEAKER_03: 33:40

No, we'll take the kids from the candy from the kids and do a trauma dump with the candy. No, we're not. Anyhow, trauma dump, so okay. Very, very, very poor community. I grew up in Kentucky. The school offered a candy sale. And if we whoever sold the most candy could get an outside.

SPEAKER_00: 34:00

Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, oh, okay. I'll say I did candy sales, but it was for other shit.

SPEAKER_03: 34:03

All I had was a holler, which is a cutout between two hills in Appalachia.

SPEAKER_00: 34:08

Yeah, look up the hollers in Kentucky, and you'll know what's going on.

SPEAKER_03: 34:11

That's all I had was a holler, which was about a mile and a half. Yeah. Probably 30 houses. That's all I had to walk.

SPEAKER_00: 34:17

Well, that's pretty much all I had. There was a subdivision across the street that I would walk and sell.

SPEAKER_03: 34:20

You sold two candy bars, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 34:22

Oh. I would sell boxes.

SPEAKER_03: 34:24

I thought I was so happy because like I did my little track, you're right, and I sold two candy bars. I was like, well, if I do this again, you know, every day, because I think you had like a week or something to sell the candy. That's all I sold was two candy bars.

SPEAKER_00: 34:36

Well, you lived in a poor community, so that was probably a treat for families in your community.

SPEAKER_03: 34:41

They were like 50 cents back then.

SPEAKER_00: 34:43

Yeah. But I was still a lot of money.

SPEAKER_03: 34:45

Highest fucking hopes of winning that fucking thing. Never got an elf doll. Never got an elf doll. Yeah, that's really that's probably seven years old, six.

SPEAKER_00: 34:56

Oh, little Jussie. Couldn't get his elf doll. I wasn't allowed to have an elf doll. And uh, so I grew up with my dad and my stepmom and my real mother, who was a distant relative at that point, she had sent me fragile rock dolls.

SPEAKER_03: 35:15

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 35:15

And I wasn't allowed to have them.

SPEAKER_03: 35:17

When was the first time I was allowed to have fragile rock dolls when I bought them for Silas? And that was the first time I had some.

SPEAKER_00: 35:25

Well, you weren't allowed to have them because you were poor, and I wasn't allowed to have them because my parents said that they looked demonic. God the fuck? Fraggles? But why? Why was that? Why was Jim Hansen was a fucking genius? He was uh he is part of the holy trinity of good people, man. Yeah. Oh he's up there with Mr. Rogers and LeVar Burton and Bob Ross. I'm living in my trauma. Steve Irwin.

SPEAKER_03: 35:48

I'm in my trauma right now, Lindsay.

unknown: 35:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 35:51

So back to the story. So Donna Jennings, she's got she's now gotten this uh vintage Raggedy Ann doll. And soon Donna would start to experience some weird shit after receiving this doll. She would experience cold drafts, shuffling sounds, whispers, and even notes around the house written in childlike handwriting. Well, Donna thought she was going crazy because she didn't get a lot of sleep because of her schooling. She was a nursing student who was studying and on the job training. My nursing students out there listening, y'all know what Donna was going through. Her roommate, though, Angie hopefully Tapleton and her fiance, Lou Carlo, were also experiencing some weird stuff. Okay. They would say that the doll would move on its own and be in a different spot from where it had been in the same day, and its limbs would be arranged in disturbing positions.

SPEAKER_03: 36:54

But not to dispel that, raggedy had rounded hands. How could it hold a fucking pencil? Well, they were like mittens.

SPEAKER_00: 37:02

So they were assuming that it was. Yeah, raggedy Ann was cloth, complete cloth.

SPEAKER_03: 37:07

Yeah. Yeah. Little mitten rounded hands. Can hold a pencil.

SPEAKER_00: 37:10

And you know what's crazy too because in the movie they made it look like this ghoulish ass doll, but an actual raggedy doll is just as creepy. Looks like a pillow, though. Yes. I loved my raggedy and doll with her little yarn hair. Like I loved her. I didn't have a lot of cool toys.

SPEAKER_03: 37:26

Did you teach her how to write?

SPEAKER_00: 37:27

No. You shouldn't. She just slept beside me in bed. She was like a pillow. Like you said.

SPEAKER_01: 37:32

Do my homework for me.

SPEAKER_00: 37:34

Well, the doll seemed to really mess with Lou the most. The doll was even found with blood stains on its hands. Allegedly. Because a doll in the town's got blood stains on his hands. So first they call a medium who has a seance and says that the doll is possessed by a seven-year-old girl named, you want to guess? Annabelle. Annabelle Higgins, who had died at the property years before. Now she wasn't mean. She was just lonely and wanted, she wanted somebody to play with. So feeling sorry for the spirit, the women, Donna and Angie, they tell her that it's okay for her to take over the doll, and they rename her Annabelle. So they treated the doll like an actual person after that. They even gave her a place to sit at the table when they would have meals. They brought her jewelry. They brought her gifts.

SPEAKER_03: 38:35

They fed into the darkness.

SPEAKER_00: 38:37

They fed into the darkness, the alleged darkness. But Lou, he was had he didn't live with them. But uh he was starting to have recurring nightmares and was like terrified of this doll. And said, Annabelle doesn't like me, and I'm I'm not gonna come over that often because I'm just not comfortable here. Now he would swear that he woke up to the doll choking him on occasion. Could you imagine little mittens? Oh all the kittens with their mittens. I wouldn't even be mad. Just like I wouldn't even be mad about the marching band. I would just use it for a pillow. Little Annabelle, come cuddle with me. But then he would say that he got stretch marks. Not stretch marks, scratch marks. He is growing. And they were like deep and bloody ones, okay? So at this point, they're like, we gotta contact a priest.

SPEAKER_03: 39:34

And then the priest contacted Ed and Lorraine of all the Warrens. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 39:41

And they so they have been active in the paranormal investigation for about 20 years at this point. I would have taken two seconds and been like, this doll can't scratch you, dude. I know. What the fuck? But it's the spirit inside of the doll that can create. Which still doesn't make any sense. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 39:59

Ow. Of a little girl that we named Annabelle. Right. Of a Raggedy Ann doll.

SPEAKER_00: 40:04

I know. Annabelle just wanted to play. So anyway, well, they were like, Donna, Angie, there is no Annabelle. You have been tricked by the devil. And this is a demonic spirit. And he wants you. Speaking to Donna, basically.

SPEAKER_03: 40:21

I'm so giddy right now because of the song that I'm gonna play later on.

SPEAKER_00: 40:24

Okay. So fucking giddy right now, huh?

SPEAKER_02: 40:27

And you don't know it.

SPEAKER_03: 40:28

I don't. And I didn't know that you were actually gonna talk about this.

SPEAKER_00: 40:31

Oh shit. Okay. We have y'all, we do not share information during the week until we come together on this pod. Yeah. So they were like, all right, we're gonna go ahead and take Annabelle off your hands for your safety. The Warrens said that they had problems with their car on the way home. As so they've confiscated Annabelle on the drive home. They're having car problems. And they almost get into a crash before Ed pulled over and just doused this doll with holy water. Okay, just like drowned poor little Annabelle, who just wanted to play. But just drowned her in holy water. So now their pillow is all wet. When they get home, they're like, Well, we can't destroy her because the spirit will attach itself to someone else. So they locked her up in a blessed glass case where she remains today.

SPEAKER_03: 41:27

Which we have all fucking seen.

SPEAKER_00: 41:29

Yes. And that's why I'm she's a big raggedy ant. Like I mine wasn't that big. Mine was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 41:35

It was just like a 15-inch, but like this is a 24-inch 36-inch type fucking huge one. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 41:42

So it looks like once they started getting like she might have been like she was vintage. So those were probably huge. And then like the more they got mass-produced, which is by the time we got them in the 80s. They got pocket size. They got we almost pocket size, right? So according to Ed, Ed or Ed and Lorraine, Annabelle had levitated and growled at them before being locked up.

SPEAKER_03: 42:04

If I could fellow that ever growled at me, I swear to God.

SPEAKER_00: 42:09

But do you remember those little monsters that we had in the 80s?

SPEAKER_03: 42:14

It was called the Monster. Was it the monsters?

SPEAKER_00: 42:16

It was something like that. But they had they were cute. They were so cute. They had little fangs. I wasn't allowed to have one, obviously. And then, but I was allowed to have a popple. And those were adorable. Remember that you rolled them up into a ball? Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 42:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just thing, though. You know? And that's what it had the little Velcro thing on it. When you rolled it up, you could hold it together with it, right?

SPEAKER_00: 42:39

And then Teddy fucking Rumpkin, man, he was telling us stories.

SPEAKER_03: 42:42

Couldn't have one of those. I'm not trauma dumping no more.

SPEAKER_00: 42:45

I was allowed to have a Teddy Rumpkin, but I didn't have him for long. I probably destroyed him at some point. Probably the inner anger from not being able to have those fragile rock dolls because I had red, and what was the other one's name? It's Gobo.

SPEAKER_03: 42:57

Yeah. Red and Gobo. And Wimbly and the trash heap. Yeah, the trash heap. The trash heap with all the knowledge.

SPEAKER_00: 43:03

I just talked about the trash heap um the other day at work. I don't remember why and what the context was, but the trash heap came into the chat.

SPEAKER_03: 43:11

Trash heap, dude. If you're our age, you know the trash heap. You've got to know the trash heap.

SPEAKER_00: 43:16

And uh let us know if you grew up watching Fraggle Rock or if you got onto it later in life because it was on HBO and we put it on Silas, and he loved every we will rewatched every episode a million times.

SPEAKER_03: 43:27

Don't forget the Uncle Traveling Matt.

SPEAKER_00: 43:29

Yes, Uncle Traveling Matt. He was so cool.

SPEAKER_03: 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 43:32

His travels were so lame, but to Gobo, they were everything.

SPEAKER_03: 43:37

They're all human. Well, by the way.

SPEAKER_00: 43:44

And the dozers. Dozers. Was it doozers or dozers?

SPEAKER_03: 43:47

Doozers. Okay. Yeah, and they were eating all their fucking, they were hard working so fucking hard, Lindsay. I know. And they would eat their shit right in front of them.

SPEAKER_00: 43:53

That was my little cousin. They loved it. That was my little cousin Tensley's nickname was Doozer, because my cousin Nikki, her mom, had the Fraggle Rock on tape.

SPEAKER_03: 44:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:05

And she would just re-watch that one episode all the time about.

SPEAKER_03: 44:13

Because people were just eating away all of our hard work.

SPEAKER_00: 44:16

We learned it. But Tinsley would rewatch the doozer uh episode where they focus on how they were eating the doozer structures constantly. But then so she got nicknamed doozer, and that was cute.

SPEAKER_03: 44:28

Yeah, go back to our pillow though.

SPEAKER_00: 44:29

Yeah, okay. So by this time, they had already had an occult artifact collection of haunted items that they had accumulated and would go on to make a lot of money in the future of this museum. So this is my thing, Ed and Lorraine. Um, you know, I guess rest in peace. But um why were you okay holding on to the haunted? But the I I don't get it. I just don't understand that part.

SPEAKER_03: 44:58

You can't keep trinkets. What is the Vatican for? The same religion that they're part of, right? Don't they lock away all that shit and you can't fucking see it because it's horrific things that you're not allowed to do.

SPEAKER_00: 45:08

But they made it a museum that you could go and look at this shit and made a lot of money off of it. I even wanted to go to that museum, but it was closed. Yeah, I just wanted to see the shit.

SPEAKER_03: 45:18

So, okay, little leaning more toward Lindsay's side on the fence on this deal right now. Right. Look like a money grab still.

SPEAKER_00: 45:24

So, according to the Warrens, this is just according to them, a couple who had taunted the doll and banged on the glass that it was, you know, encased in, they ended up getting into a car crash after they, or not a car crash, excuse me, a motorcycle crash after they left, resulting in the driver, the man, dying. And the woman survived, but she was hospitalized for a year. But there is zero evidence of this happening. This is just what Ed proclaimed. So it is speculated. This whole story was ripped off of an episode of The Twilight Zone about a talking doll named Tina. The girl in the show, her mother's name was Annabelle. I watched, I looked it up, I found the episode and I watched it. Look at you over here looking at me like you're spilling shit on me. Yeah. You are you you flipping me some shit? Tina the talking doll from the Twilight Zone, in my opinion, was the whole inspiration behind Annabelle. Tina the talking doll was behind the whole fucking from the Twilight Zone, which was Alfred Hitchcock, right?

SPEAKER_03: 46:31

Who the fuck owns uh you're probably gonna talk about this later on, right? Mark Reif owns her now. Oh, oh, what I got that coming up. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00: 46:41

Now, we're gonna go to this is around the same time period. Yeah, in December of 1970. When was this? So this was in 1970 also. So also in 1970, but in December of 1970, uh, Roger and Carolyn Perrin bought a house in Harrisville, Rhode Island. And they had five girls. The the house on the property was called the Arnold Estate. The house was from 1776, and the previous owner actually told them that they needed to keep the lights on for the sake of their family. Like in the sale of this house, if Jesse Stanbaugh, when we bought this house, if the owner had looked at you at the table where you're signing the house and she said, keep the lights on for the sake of your family, would you have signed that contract? Fuck no. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 47:35

I'd be like, uh, we're gonna go find another place.

unknown: 47:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 47:39

Well, according to the parent, uh, not the parents, the parents, the spirits in the house seemed friendly at first. Like they were uh, okay, these are just some freeloading roommates. So the first two spirits that they encountered were Johnny and Mrs. Arnold. They were the latest to have lived in the house before the parents, hence the Arnold estate. The parents said that Mrs. Arnold would tuck the girls into bed at night and kiss them goodnight. And Johnny, who had taken his own life in this house, he just played with the girls' toys. He was cool. Whatever. There would be a spirit who they would call the sweeper, who swept the floors. They had a live-in-elderly couple who tucked their kids into bed and a maid and a janitor. Hell yeah, had a nanny. But then it started to get scary as they would hear ghoulish cries and banging on doors, their beds would be lifted, and the family would be tossed out of their beds at exactly 5 15 a.m. sharp every morning.

SPEAKER_03: 48:46

So we went from three to five now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 48:49

They just they were like, y'all, it's time to get up.

SPEAKER_03: 48:52

Get up. Yeah, get your ass to work. And they were pissed off because they weren't getting paid. And they're working their dead asses.

SPEAKER_00: 48:58

Their nannies and a janitor.

SPEAKER_03: 48:59

They've worked their ass to death in the house over here, and they're not getting paid.

SPEAKER_00: 49:03

Time to go to school. Time to go to work. Yeah, get the hell out of the house. Get out.

SPEAKER_03: 49:06

We're gonna clean it while you're gone.

SPEAKER_00: 49:08

But they would start smelling the smell of decomposition. And you don't want to wake up to that smell. Like, that's horrible. Do you know that that is a phantom? So I'm in perimenopause, and you experience phantom smells during this stage of our lovely womanhood. And I most women say that they experience the smell of burnt toast. Me, do you know what I smell? Decomposition. Really? And uh I don't I cannot, I've never smelt burnt toast, but most women say that they do that because I belong to like three or four different groups, just so I can have some insight on what other women are going through at the same time. That way, because you don't feel crazy when other people are experiencing the same things that you are, but I smell decomposition. That's my phantom smell.

SPEAKER_03: 49:58

So during periods, you just think you're going crazy. Literally smelling crazy shit and dead shit.

SPEAKER_00: 50:06

Exactly. I smell dead people. Literally.

unknown: 50:09

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 50:09

It's wild. Uh well, not just, I mean, I grew up on a farm. I smelled decomposition almost every morning when I woke up because I lived out in the country. So there would be a dead raccoon, a dead possum, a dead rat. I mean, just something out in the elements. Right. As I walked to the school bus, like I said on upon occasion, there was gators. Right. People would capture gators and cut off their tail and leave the carcass in our ditch because we lived around a lot of ponds and lakes. We lived on a road called Lake Jeffrey. So there was a lot of water in our area. And they would just leave the carcass of these gators in my ditch. Do you know how scary that was? Yeah. Walk into your bus stop and there's a gator dead and rotting with its mouth fucking wide open and your fucking what's the metal thing called? The covert? Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_02: 51:02

Yeah, the the yeah, the covert. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 51:05

Oh, yeah, just right there. Hey. Because I had to walk across, I had to walk across the street to the actual spot where my bus would pick me up. And there would be like dead possums sitting right there.

SPEAKER_03: 51:18

So that's why you're a seminole fan over here.

SPEAKER_00: 51:21

Because the gators. Dead gators everywhere.

SPEAKER_03: 51:24

I'm a seminole fan. Gators in my ditch. Go aciola.

SPEAKER_00: 51:28

So um, Andrea Perrin, she was one of the kids. She said that there was an evil male spirit who also was the father of five girls, just like her dad. Another spirit became infatuated. This was a woman, she became infatuated with Roger, and this spirit would get touchy-feely with him when he would be in the cellar. Now, this spirit, this woman's spirit who was obsessed with Roger, she would attack Carolyn with a blade, but Carolyn didn't get hurt.

SPEAKER_03: 52:03

She like um she matrixed that shit.

SPEAKER_00: 52:08

But she was also apparently extremely layered in her clothing to where she didn't get any uh Oh, y'all put y'all put on your armor. We're finishing to go in the house. We're gonna hang out. I mean, you know, can uh the uh Rhode Island can get very cold. And this was December. So we gotta wear five layers. Well, Carolyn, she would start to hear footsteps in her room, and she would see the image of a ghostly woman hovering over her. Now, I would just talk this up to a sleep paralysis demon, but you know, whatever. Um, their bed would shake, and the spirits of about eight different people would surround their bed. This is from the conjuring, uh, holding torches in their room and start chanting, beseeched the leave was Mistress before ye came, and Mistress here will be again. I don't know if they were British or not, but I'm just you've watched the movie.

SPEAKER_03: 53:05

That's the most beautiful thing I've ever witnessed, right? We're not on video right now, Lindsay, but you were nailing it, dude. You were we're putting you on the next fucking movie, I swear to God. We're casting you.

SPEAKER_00: 53:17

Well, Carolyn, she would close her eyes and begin praying, and she she went back to sleep. And that's the problem that I have with all these haunted families. If it's real, how the fuck are you going to sleep?

SPEAKER_02: 53:30

If it's real.

SPEAKER_00: 53:31

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 53:32

If it's real, I would be getting the fuck out.

SPEAKER_00: 53:34

There would be, as Gillian Pensavalli says, there would be a Lindsay size hole in the door. She says that a lot in her episodes, and I think that's so funny. There would be a Lindsay size hole in the door. Bye. Gone. What was that movie we were just watching the other day? Um, with Chevy Chase.

SPEAKER_03: 53:50

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing but trouble. Nothing but trouble. Yes. Through the door. Yeah. At the very end, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 53:57

Right.

SPEAKER_03: 53:57

That's a beautiful movie.

SPEAKER_00: 54:00

Carolyn, she decided to do a little research on the house and found out about this woman named Bathsheba Tair Sherman, who was an alleged Satan worshiper in the 1800s. The story goes that she married a farmer named Judson Sherman, and when she gave birth to their child, she was discovered sacrificing said child to Satan in exchange for eternal beauty. It was also alleged that she cursed anyone that would claim her land. Now she had four more children, and most did not make it past the age of four, but unfortunately, that was quite common for that time period. One child did live and outlived her and became an old lady. Well, legend has it that when she died, her body turned to stone. But guess what? There's zero proof of this, and you cannot find the stone remains of this woman. She actually died of a stroke at 73 and was buried like normal. Like in like a normal Christian burial.

SPEAKER_03: 55:08

Why are you looking at me like that? She's flipping so much shit, Lindsay. You're flipping me shit over here.

SPEAKER_00: 55:14

But according to Caroline, Bathsheba tried to possess her. And that's when they call up Ed in Lorraine. And uh I'm just gonna start call I'm just gonna start calling my perimenopausal rage a possession. Like that's I'm possessed right now.

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You can get away with it, yeah. Bathsheba. Well, back then you could. I mean, yeah.

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Bathsheba has possessed me. I apologize.

SPEAKER_03: 55:38

I think that's actually what you need to call it from now on. Oh, Bathsheba. Dude, that's fucking amazing.

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But actually, Bathsheba was actually a wonderful woman, and I don't want to put that on her because Bathsheba.

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Shit.

SPEAKER_03: 55:55

Give it to it. Give it to it. Oh shit, this drink is not strong enough for this bullshit over here.

SPEAKER_00: 56:04

So, of course, Lorraine sensed a dark spirit with her sixth sense and said, of course, that this dark spirit, Bathsheba, was demonic.

SPEAKER_03: 56:16

Don't you ever forget that, Lindsay? I want you to go fucking bathsheba on me later.

SPEAKER_00: 56:20

It was just Bathsheba. So Carolyn even supposedly had a wound that Lorraine said was indeed given to her by Bathsheba, but there's there's no evidence of that, of course. So they tell the parents that they are in danger and they perform a seance. They would not do an exorcism because the family wasn't religious enough.

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So they just practicing some ass witchcraft shit.

SPEAKER_00: 56:52

They are legit doing witchcraft.

SPEAKER_03: 56:54

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 56:55

But during the seance, Carolyn went through some shit. Like le I mean, you can watch the movie. Okay. Uh Lorraine was a consultant on all these movies, by the way. Well, Carolyn, she would go through some shit. Like levitating and all of that jazz. Y'all know. And all that jazz.

SPEAKER_03: 57:16

So if you say Bath Shiva three times in the mirror, does that shit come back and get you? No. Oh. Maybe just like perimenopause will hit you then.

SPEAKER_00: 57:25

Probably.

SPEAKER_03: 57:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 57:26

That's probably what all this was. Or actual menopause. Well, Ed, he was like, I gotta perform an emergency exorcism here because I gotta save Carolyn's life.

SPEAKER_03: 57:36

An emergency one. Get your emergency kit out.

SPEAKER_00: 57:38

Now, this is what I don't understand, okay? A lot of this contradicts their their saying about ghosts and demons. He says that a ghost walked the earth, but a demon never has. So how was Bathsheba, an actual person that lived? How was she a demonic entity?

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I can't pull out an answer for that. Exactly.

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Well, now the story goes in the haunting that Ed and Lorraine were the Christian martyrs. They saved the day. But in reality, Roger actually told Ed and Lorraine, y'all gotta get the fuck out of here. I'm worried about my wife's mental health. And to be honest, that's probably what was going on. He was being real.

SPEAKER_03: 58:21

He was being real.

SPEAKER_00: 58:22

He was being real. She was probably suffering through a mental health crisis. And uh, but that's like I said, that's not what's in the movie. Now the Perrin family continued to live in this house for another 10 years. Now, Andrea has a book out about her family's time there, and I did not have it because I have no more credits on Audible for right now. Um, but I'm waiting. I do want to revisit that just to see what her side of the story was. Now, Carolyn and Roger would end up divorcing, and the house would end up becoming a tourist attraction that who wanted to go to? Me. Yeah, you did. But it was closed uh and put up for auction this year and purchased by Matt Reif and Elton Castie. I guess that's how you say his name. But we'll talk a little more about uh that douchebag, talking about Matt Reif and more on the Warrens in next week's episode, The Warrens Part 2. So you're gonna throw shade on Matt Reif, dude? I'm gonna no, I'm gonna throw shade on him right fucking now. No, no, wait, wait, because I wanna wait.

SPEAKER_03: 59:32

I wanna wait. You wanna wait? Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_00: 59:34

Well, because okay.

SPEAKER_03: 59:36

I'm allowed to like let me let me hang on to this just for a fucking minute for a week before you do it on Friday. So I don't want to Lindsay. I thought it was a cool cat, man. I'm so sorry. Not a cool cat. No, and you're allowed to say that? Sure am. What a twat! Yeah, oh man, you want to hit him with a bat?

SPEAKER_00: 59:56

Oh, I want to hit him real hard, but at the same time, I don't. Want to I don't want to bring violence into it because apparently so no hitting, but still you have feelings. You have feelings, he has no problem with that yet, but we'll uh we'll go there next week.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:09

What? Lindsay. And you've reached the bottom of part one. Part one. And the next one we'll have more to cover. But thank you, Lindsay. Thank you so much. You just fucking destroyed somebody. I thought it was cool.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:32

Somebody was too, until I found another little way.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:42

Numb jumping. Jumping.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:49

I'll just give you this minute. You don't really see him in your newsfeed anymore, do you?

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:52

No, I don't. Okay. What? So that's a fucking clue.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:56

That's a clue.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:57

He's not part of group fucking seven.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:00

This is not group seven.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:02

He's not allowed to be in group seven at all. Shit. Fuck, dude. Why am I so in the dark?

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:09

I don't.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:11

I've been crawling in the dark.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:15

I'm on a very long journey to enlightening you.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:18

You ain't gonna remember none of this shit. No.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:22

And that's why there and there's a there's a case that I'm going to um give a little a little sprinkle about next week, but I'm not gonna give too much because I want to deep dive into that case, which will probably be a two-parter next October.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:36

If you ever create a pot and you put gold in it, I am the holes that won't hold it. Let's just put it that way. So I ain't remembering shit. I ain't holding nothing. No. I ain't holding nothing. No retention in the live in the moment.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:51

You're getting better though, because with our recaps, you're remembering you're remembering details. You're doing good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:57

We're getting you there. The one that we did earlier this week, I was just like half awake, kind of like I'm still in sleep mode.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:05

But it is stuck with you. You'll never forget that shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:08

This is the way to solidify all of my existence here. We're putting it in uh everything. But I just wanted to let you know, Lindsay. We are now officially in every continent on the globe. No way! Fucking finally, South America. Yes, this is fucking finally. We're there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:25

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:26

Yes. So I can play music now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:29

This is my turn.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:30

I am so excited. What band are you gonna plug for us today?

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:34

Oh, you're gonna love it, Lindsay. Lindsay, you're gonna love it. I'm excited. It's Xanthia. And I have it wrote down over there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:44

Jupiter's Thunder. So it's Xanthia. Jupiter's Thunder, and the song is Play With Me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:50

Play with Me. So check all that shit out. And here we fucking go. Lindsay, I did not believe that this came together and it's gonna be perfect. You're gonna be fucking geeking, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:04

I'm already geeking. I just saw her picture and I'm like, Yah girl.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:07

Yah girl. Alright, let's do this thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:09

So super sweet sugar and slaughter. Lovely lady. La la bye bye with kites and knives. Golden curls full of chaos. Spoon in my pocket snap. Crackle, kill, kill, kill, kill, angel face, gruesome little goblin. Game bubblegum light strives as he dies. Milk sugar, murder, the green you should feel. The sweetest little killer. Sweetest little killer. The sweetest little killer Pink ribbons, pigtail, sneakers hit the floor. Casting spoon tuck, tag what you think it's for. Mama says I'm a angel, daddy calls me sweetheart. But I'm stirring up a breakfast that'll rip your world apart. Milk in the bowl, got sugar in the mix. When I'm swinging lipstick, bunnies on my back, pack sparkles on my lip. But I use every smile at the razor blade tip. So sweet I'll give you a cavity. Little hands, deadly plants. Teddy bears on my blanket, my doll's by the bed, but under the floorboards like things better left unsaid. Play with me, strawberry face, razor smile, hop, scotch to the grave, sweet princess of May. Help candy coated chaos glittering door. Sweet little lace gloves, blood stains, hide and seek. Hop, scotch, jump rope, laughing in the yard. Swings at Jane, pulling just as hard. Hide and seek sweetness with the devilish streak. I color outside the lines red, red, red, red, red. Red Rom. You don't wanna know what I whisper to myself. Pink is where promises bubblegum lies. Catch me if you can with a sparkle in my eyes. Play with me. Golden, golden, golden, golden girls, apple cheeks. They laugh and think it's playtime, but they'll find out soon. I'm a precious little bee. Tiny little creepers Milk ring dripping bare feet creepy. I giggle in the dark while the grown ups sleep. Would you like to play with me? Doodling hearts and eyes in my little no bitter guns do delight. Crimson, crimson, crimson, crimson, crimson in the cream behind my big sweet green eyes. There's a darker dream milk spills on the counter, a wiggle in the air. You can't believe a child could hide such winked care. But darling, don't you? It's killing time. The smallest hands to see. I'm just a adorable little serial killer. You'll never, never, never, never never get to leave.

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Lindsay. Perfectly come together. Unplanned. I promise you. Oh my God. I am in awe. That is the cutest, most horrific song I've ever heard of my. Oh my god, Lindsay. I love girl. You are the tits.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:59

Happy Halloween, everybody.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:00

Happy Halloween.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:03

It just came together like that. And I swear. She chills through the whole song. We did not plan it. No. But we did play it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:10

Not at all over. Not at all.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:14

She's lost for words. You know when I get when I get teary-eyed over here because I'm watching my wife over here geeking to like group seven style over here. She is on level 55 over here.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:29

That was fucking amazing. And you planned that back. You got in contact with this artist back in July.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:35

And you showed me the proof. I showed it to you.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:38

And because he's got he's got artists lined up just like I have cases lined up for days, years. So we're here to stay. And that was the coolest shit. Wow.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:54

I'm I'm out of it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:56

Yes. And when when you started this shit, and I didn't know about Annabelle. I mean, I know Annabelle. I know the whole thing, right? No. But you didn't know I was going to talk about her. Did not know you were going to talk about this little fluffy pillow doll that was doing some crazy shit. Wasn't this perfect? Absolutely. Did not fucking plan it. No. And there's going to be some that we don't, you know, it doesn't work out. Whatever. It's going to be whatever we're talking about. Yeah, it's going to be, yeah. Support music.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:17

But when it does.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:18

Xanthia fucking support that shit. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:20

So I so uh hold on. Let me pull up her little website again. So let me go back.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:28

Yeah, xanthia.com. And also on uh the socials on Facebook.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:34

YouTube. Hold on. I'm kidding I'm pulling it up. Okay. So on Facebook, she is Xanthia. That is X Z Capital. A-N-T-H-I-A-Jupiter's Thunder on Facebook. And then her link to her music. Now we did find her on Spotify. I could not find uh Instagram, but she's on youtube uh dot com slash at Xanthea Music. So she has a YouTube account. Follow this magnificent.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:12

I am so she had she had goosebumps, girl.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:15

I did.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:16

And we're gonna share this to you to check us, check it all out.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:20

And I so I will probably on our stories it you will find, I will put her YouTube link in that. And more information. Because I usually tag the artist on um on Instagram. Because I plug our Instagram story, I plug our stories through Instagram, which also goes to my personal story. Like I have it dually set up. So yeah, if you follow my personal page, Lindsay Stanbah, Jesse Stanbah, because I will tag him. That way it's in all of our stories everywhere.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:48

Yeah. You can find us. We'll plug the dot com too, because I've seen that on there. Absolutely. Definitely go and plug, plug, plug.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:54

That was cool as shit. No, like I loved it so much. But we're gonna wrap this up. Stay tuned. Happy Halloween again. Stay tuned for the Warrens part two and some more amazing music.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:07

And um Yeah, that's so amazing. Happy Halloween, everybody.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:11

Tell us what you did for Halloween.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:13

Tell us all your stories.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:15

Yes, make sure you watch our recap videos. So this week we put out a recap on uh The Devil Made Me Do It or The Devil in Connecticut. And we also recapped our take on the perfect neighbor documentary. Yes.

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So if you're ever in the Tampa area, check out Xanthia.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:34

Yes, I want to see a show.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:36

We're gonna hire her to come hang out at the house. Yes, hit us up, girl.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:41

Karaoke. We're gonna hit you up.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:43

I'm gonna be singing that shit forever. So amazing. Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:48

The cutest, most horrific shit I've ever heard in my life.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:51

Perfect podcast. You did great.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:53

You did great, sir.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:54

You did great. And I gave you all the kudos already, but I'm giving you more kudos.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:58

Yeah, off Mike, he was giving me praise. And I was like, listen, I just do, I just do the work and I write it down and I take the notes, and it's a fun adventure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:06

So let's get off here. We're gonna do our things, get ready for other things because we got many things. Yes. Follow, share, subscribe, like, and do the all the stuff, of course.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:15

So, real quick again, drinkabout something.site, we are on YouTube. You can type in Gen Z. You are we will pop up. Instagram, drinkabout something pod. Email us at no, I'm sorry. Instagram is just drinkabout something. Email us at drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. Follow our personal socials, Jesse Stanba, Lindsay Stanbah, TikTok, DrinkAbout Something Pod underscore Lindsay. We love you so much, and we're gonna see you next week.

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Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:45

We're gonna see you in in in next week.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:47

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:49

We love you so much. Bye.