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EPISODE 59: Kendrick Lamar Johnson
A Christmas singalong turns into a hard pivot, and for good reason: we’re stepping into one of the South’s most contested cases, the death of Kendrick Johnson, a 17-year-old athlete found upside down in a rolled gym mat at Lowndes County High School. The official story says accident. The details refuse to cooperate. We walk through the timeline with clear eyes—how the mats were stored, where the shoes actually lay, the students who came into the gym minutes later, and the six-hour delay before the coroner was called. We look at the surveillance gaps, the blood that wasn’t tested to identify a source, and the power dynamics around key figures who insisted they never saw Kendrick that day—despite footage later placing everyone within feet.
From there, we follow the family’s fight: exhumations, independent autopsies, and a forensic report pointing to blunt force trauma. We talk about what it means when organs are missing and a body is stuffed with newspaper, and why embalming practices, evidence custody, and medical examiner documentation matter so much in cases like this. Along the way we highlight reporting, documentaries, and community activism that kept the story alive, as well as the lawsuits, counter-suits, reopened investigations, and a substantial reward that still hasn’t yielded an indictment.
This conversation isn’t about sensationalism; it’s about accountability. If the system calls something an accident, the evidence must be able to stand in daylight. We’re close to Valdosta, but proximity isn’t what keeps this case in our minds—integrity does. If you’ve followed the Kendrick Johnson story or have verified updates we missed, reach out. And if you’re new to it, start here, then watch the documentary Finding Kendrick Johnson and review public records for yourself.
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SPEAKER_05:Well, I you know, I work for a corporate restaurant, and they want our hostesses to hand out one napkin per guest. Guess what Lindsay has to get for every single guest? Extra napkins. And I don't blame them because me, I'm a six napkin minimal person because I have wild OCD, I have, I have to be clean, and I just I don't want to keep reusing the same filthy napkin that I've already, you know, because I'm a messy eater, number one, and number two, I I just want to, I don't want the feeling of the grime on my face or hands. Right. So why, what corporate restaurants I'm talking to you right now? If you're a CEO of one listening to this podcast, why do you think that the customer only wants one napkin?
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SPEAKER_05:Please give us the napkins. But what made me feel old was I mean, I okay, I always come up with mine off the top of the dome. So last night, um, grandbabies were over and we were were forcing upon them our childhood because why not? We had we had the good shit. So we put on Muppet Christmas Carol because we love the songs and we want them to love the songs and sing them with us. And um uh, you know, it shows what year the movie was made when you put it on. It was made in '91. And I was like, fuck.
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SPEAKER_05:All right, so this week we need we're time, it's time for a little more revolution. Really? Yes. Oh. So today we are drinking about a young man named uh Kendrick Lamar Johnson. Uh he also went by KJ, and everybody in his family has those initials. It's very cute.
SPEAKER_04:Really? That is cute as shit. No, that is really cool. Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy. Here we go. Yes.
SPEAKER_05:So he lived right down the road from us. From us in Valdasta, Georgia.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, one of them Valdy boys. Yes.
SPEAKER_05:So um KJ was born October 10th, 1995, to Jacqueline and Kenneth Johnson. Kenneth was a truck driver and Jackie drove a bus for the school system. In um in 2013, KJ was 17 years old and played lots of sports for Londs County High School.
SPEAKER_04:I was thinking it's like one of the best football teams in the South.
SPEAKER_05:And listen, I so I watched a documentary on this, and these kids, these players, they were fucking beefcakes, man.
SPEAKER_04:Like Londs County is one of the best footballers. They can rival colours.
SPEAKER_05:I was like, there's no way that these kids are teenagers. No doubt. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Holy shit. Look like they're 25 out there.
SPEAKER_05:And up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. They can rival honestly. Look it up. Anybody wants to.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it's just like, I don't know where T, I don't know where Tebow came from originally, but that dude was.
SPEAKER_04:He came from Nice High School, south of Jacksonville. Oh, okay. Yeah. We actually had his coach after he left there. Uh Howard came and taught our our high school here.
SPEAKER_05:It's crazy too, because these boys, like their bodies and and height, is very adult, but their faces all look like. They're still children. Yeah. So I'm going to show you a picture of KJ really quick, just so you can have them in your mind.
SPEAKER_04:Beefcakes, though. I mean, Columbia played lounge a few times. We got slaughtered. Our county played that high school right there. Is always like their football stadium looks like a college stadium. A high school football stadium is. I wound up there one time trying to go to a high school game because I used to travel and take the boys and football in and stuff. And I wound up there instead of the uh the the high school next to it. And I was like, what am I doing here?
SPEAKER_05:There's KJ.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That was so he played, um, he played basketball, football, and he ran track. And and I think he was a wrestler. I'm not wrong. No, no, no, no. Another character in the story was a wrestler. Sorry. But so he played basketball, football, and he was a track star. On January 10th, KJ was seen on the school's camera going into what they called the old gym. So they had an old gym and a new gym. And he was going to get his gym shoes that he shared with another student. Now, this school made you pay for locker storage. And instead of paying that fee, a lot of kids would store their stuff in the rolled up mats of the old gym. So Kendrick was going in to get the shoes stored there. And he was going to finish up his school day and then go to a basketball game held at a at the school that afternoon. At 9:30 p.m., Kendrick had still not made it home, which was not like him. And friends said that he did not attend the basketball game like he was planning to do, and he hadn't called his mom to tell her any that there were any change of plan.
SPEAKER_04:Something's not right.
SPEAKER_05:Right. Well, at 11 p.m., Jackie drove uh to the school to see if he was still there, but he wasn't because I don't know. Maybe the basketball games ran late. So she kept driving that route between their house and the school over and over to see if she had seen would see him anywhere in between. What 12:30 a.m., Jackie calls the police to report him missing, and they just shrugged it off at first, saying, you know, this is typical shit. Like he's maybe off with friends or off with a girl. And Jackie was like, no, he would have called me or one of his siblings and let us know. So on uh Kenneth, he was on a work trip and he was heading back from New York. So this poor guy has this on his mind while, you know, and this was in January. So Rhodes probably sucks. So he's got, he knows his kid's not been found. He's driving back, he's in a big rig, long way from home. Right. George is a long way from New York. In the cold, yeah. So as soon as the school opened the next morning, Jackie was there after a long, sleepless night, and she tells him that she hasn't seen or heard from Kendrick all night long. Since she has since the day before. Well, she finds out that he was not only not at school that day, he had been marked absent from his last block the day before.
SPEAKER_03:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. So this was she got to the school around 8 30. Or no, she was she found out all of this around 8 30 a.m. And she was told to wait in the guidance counselor's office. While she's waiting, she sees first responders arrive, yet she has been told nothing. Well, in the old gym, an athletic director was teaching a life skills class and had passed out a survey for the students in that class to fill out. When one of the female students had finished, she climbed the bleachers, which were right by the uh like rest rolled up wrestling mats. Okay, that's where the that's where they kept all their they threw all their shit. Right, chucked it all to the side.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Well, this this time they were usually laying like on their side, and right this time they're like right side up.
SPEAKER_04:Standing up.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they're standing up. And she looked down, so she's at the top of bleachers. She looks down and um she saw white socks sticking out of one of those mats. No, and those white socks were attached to a body.
SPEAKER_04:Jesus Christ, Lindsay, that just stuck in there. Oh my god, Lindsay, come on.
SPEAKER_05:Well, yes. So this girl that saw the socks, well, saw the body, um, and and several other students, they start to scream. Like, they're like, what the fuck? So the athletic director pulled the mat down and unrolled it to find the deceased body of KJ. Wow. Along with a pool of blood and vomit. Now, back in the counselor's office, they receive a call and Jackie could hear, like through the, you know, you know how phones are. You're you're on one end. Sometimes when it's loud enough, the other person's loud enough, you can hear what's going on, what's being said. And uh she could hear that a body had been found. And the counselor just fled the room, like just left her there. So the school was placed on lockdown until police confirmed that there wasn't any immediate danger to the other children. Now local investigators arrive along with GBI to investigate the scene. A lot of items were found under these mats because, like I said, kids use them for storage, and there was blood in another location that was later determined to not be KJs, but they didn't test to see who it was, and I have a problem with that, but we'll get there. Now, Georgia law requires that the coroner be called as soon as a body is discovered, but for absolutely an insane unknown reason. The coroner was not called for about six hours. What? Six hours after KJ's body had been.
SPEAKER_04:That makes no sense.
SPEAKER_05:Right. Now, in the documentary that I watched, it was said that yes, it is the law to call the coroner right away, but it is custom for the sheriffs uh and the police observation and tagging of the scene be done before the body gets that's still that's still don't make no sense. You call the coroner in, they get the body, then you bag and tag all your evidence. Like, right? I have no idea what. Happened.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, but they can do their investigation while the coroner's standing there. They can be like, hey, we don't need to move anything.
SPEAKER_05:The coroner is supposed to be there.
SPEAKER_04:Just call him anyhow, right? Yeah. It's very strange.
SPEAKER_05:And the coroner says because of this delay, the scene had been contaminated. Now KJ's face was swollen like he had been in a fight and had dried blood on his face. And like I said, there was a pool of blood involvement under that rolled up mat. His death would be ruled an accident.
SPEAKER_04:No, no fucking way.
SPEAKER_05:I'm going to pull up a picture really quick, folks, and just to show Jesse how his body was found. Because all of these, all of the photos of his crime scene and everything are put out by with permission of the parents. So just know that ahead of time before we get into the rest of the story. No way. So this is how they looked laying down. This is those exact mats.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And then this is how you know he this is after they pulled him down. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Now you don't just fall.
SPEAKER_05:Remember, you see where the you see where you sh you see where the shoes are, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Remember that. Okay. So it said, it is reported, is documented, that he was trying to retrieve his shoes from the bottom of the mat and got stuck and died of positional ecstasia. Here's the problem with that. Other than the blood and vomit, the mats measure 14 inches wide when rolled up. KJ's shoulders were 19 inches wide. So, in my opinion, even if he had tried to get in there, he wouldn't have been able to, right?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so. I I think he wouldn't have landed in. I mean, the this the odds of him falling into that. Yeah. He would have moved it anyhow. I mean, why wouldn't you just move? All right.
SPEAKER_05:Well, they say that they're like hundreds of pounds.
SPEAKER_04:Right. But you would have you would have, you know, moved it enough out the way to get your shoes. Yeah, or flipped it down. You know what I'm saying? Pulled it down and got your shoes.
SPEAKER_05:And that's what a a lot, a few other podcasters that I listed here to cover this case years ago. I've known about this case since 2019. Right. Um, a lot of podcasters covered this during the pandemic. So I heard it like several times in that time. But um the mats also measure over six feet when standing upright. And KJ was 5'10. So KJ's shoes, if they had been at the bottom, why would he think he would be able to get all the way down there and then get out without? You know what I'm saying? Like I'm just very strange.
SPEAKER_04:That is so strange. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But KJ's shoes, as I showed you, were not at the bottom of the mat. They were laying beside him by his feet on the opposite end.
SPEAKER_04:So that doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_05:It doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_04:So like he could have fallen in there and then worked his shoes up there out of the way where he was trying to get to. But it doesn't make no sense.
SPEAKER_05:It's only 14 inches wide when rolled up. How is a 19-inch wide shoulder going to even be able to get in there with the room?
SPEAKER_04:Even if you would have tried to ease yourself in there. Rolled into there. That's the only fucking way. You can't just be like, all right, I'm gonna ease myself down into this hole. You wouldn't have done it without fighting, you know, and it got stuck like just a few inches in and then been like, okay, I'm stuck. And you know, and worked your way back out, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Within 15 minutes, there was tons of students in that gym playing basketball. And nobody saw or heard anything. You would think, you would think that if okay, so just say he he did wiggle his way in there to get these shoes. Wouldn't you wouldn't another student see this boy upside down trying to wiggle out? Right. Now I can understand if he couldn't yell loud enough because he's in the bottom, but wiggling, I mean, I would just think that he would be strong enough to at least wiggle it to and feet would be, in my opinion, would be sticking out.
SPEAKER_04:Unless unless he was rolled into it. There is no way that he would have got down in it far enough. Right. Right. No way.
SPEAKER_05:His body gets moved to a crime lab to be investigated further through an autopsy. Now, Kenneth, his father, he requests to go down and personally identify his son's body because Jackie hadn't been able to do that. They showed a picture of his sock and shoe to his sister. So it's not even that's yeah, that's all the identification that they were able to do on school property. What? Yeah. So he says when he gets to the crime lab and they pull KJ's body out of the cooling locker, because you know they have to do that, that he felt warm air come out. No, like he like they were trying to get it to decomp a little bit quicker. I I don't know. This is gonna be, yeah, there's gonna be a lot.
SPEAKER_04:I yeah, I don't that's strange.
SPEAKER_05:Then he says when they unzip the bag that he could clearly see that his son had to have been in a physical altercation before his death, his face was very bruised and swollen. He was almost unrecognizable.
SPEAKER_04:So you don't get that from just sliding into a hole, right?
SPEAKER_05:And all well, the only other points. So I I listened to Morbid. Uh I listened to Morbid's coverage about this um at the beginning of this year. It's one of their very old cases, but I kind of just like binge them this year. So Elena from Morbid used to be an autopsy technician. And she said, now, when an autopsy is done, it can make the body look a little different than it normally would. But she doesn't think, in her opinion, that it would look the way his did. So, and like I said, those I um I'm not gonna share those in our stories, but they are out there to look. They are very graphic and very terrible. I'm gonna show Jesse a little later.
SPEAKER_04:Um I'm already trying to wrap my head around everything, and I'm completely horrified to know that he got rolled. There's no way he slid into that. That's right. I can't figure this out.
SPEAKER_05:He looks like he was beaten, you know, and um he was he was unrecognizable. His face looks terrible. Um, but the GBI report would say that there wasn't any visible injuries on his body. Hmm? Yeah, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Their report said that. Now KJ's family immediately began to protest, and they, like I said, they released the photos of his body so everyone could see that something was not right in the findings of this investigation. Many, many students who knew KJ or were connected to him, um, connected to him somehow, were interviewed. Now, video footage from the school was requested and reviewed, but it wasn't how you would think. Now, in my opinion, I don't know a lot about the procedures of this, but just from lots of years of listening to true crime, I have a little idea of what the process is. Now, usually, you know, they would have an IT guy go down there and kind of rip it and review it on their own. What they did here was they just asked the school and waited for the school to hand it over. Wow. The video footage.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Well, there was missing footage.
SPEAKER_04:No, here we go. Missing footage.
SPEAKER_05:And what's wild is another student was seen entering the gym before KJ. And then 15 minutes later, more kids came in and were playing basketball, like I just said a little bit ago. Now, how wouldn't anyone notice there being a struggle in the mat to get a shoe or to get, you know? Well, I I just don't understand.
SPEAKER_04:I don't understand how. You said that it was like 15 minutes between classes where he was supposedly was there. I don't, I think it happened after that class, after because somebody had to lay the matchup.
SPEAKER_05:So he goes in, uh, what did I say at 1.30? Let me go back to it.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think there was time to roll somebody up between classes. And people are in and out of the gym all the time, you know, in the middle of classes, anyhow, you know? Something strange.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I think he was seen going in at 1.30. God, I can't find where I put that time. But it was it was before his last block of the day because they have the block scheduling, like we were familiar, you know, like we had. Usually you had like 135 one day and then 246 the next day. Right. I mean, he did this all the time. Like he all other kids did too. Like this was a daily occurrence with them going in there and getting their shit out of these.
SPEAKER_04:Trying to save money.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Now it's reported that the mats were, like I said, usually laying down on their side and not upright, but everything had been clean and organized during the winter break, and that's why they were now standing upright. Now, after a four-month investigation, KJ's death, like I said, was still ruled an accident, and there was no evidence of foul play, but his family did not believe this at all. When I first heard this case and the way his body was found, I thought, I literally did thought maybe it was just a tragic accident before I heard all the measurements and you know, all the shit. Because kids do stupid shit all the time. I mean, hell, adults do too. Um, but when I heard the rest of the story, uh my my opinion was changed.
SPEAKER_04:You don't think that you can slide down in that hole. You would have started, yeah. I mean, even if you were like, you know what, I can I can do this, I can do this, right? Either way, his shoes weren't in the right spot. So it didn't matter. Right. It didn't matter. There was no reason for him to be in that hole when the shoes were outside of it, basically.
SPEAKER_05:Right, yeah, right where the shoes on the top. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Where his feet were. Where his feet were. How does how does no, there is no how. There's no reason. What was down there below that? Was there anything else below that?
SPEAKER_05:Well, the rest of the story is there had been uh there were two brothers named Brian and Brandon Bell, who had been at odds with KJ. There had been a fight between KJ and Brian on the football bus, resulting in KJ having to ride in a deputy car the rest of the way of the football game while Brian stayed on the bus. Now, I have a problem with this because Brian was the antagonizer and he was the white boy. So he got to stay on the bus while KJ had to ride.
SPEAKER_04:Had to separate him. He got the shitty end of the stick to begin with.
SPEAKER_05:And he was the one that was being antagonized. Like it said that Brian was like pulling on his dreads and just being aggravating, just being an asshole. And they said that this had happened quite a few times. In fact, KJ's family said that him and Brian had had altercations in the past, and Brian was picking on him.
SPEAKER_03:Was he part of the good old boy system?
SPEAKER_05:Oh, we're getting there.
SPEAKER_03:Lindsay, am I calling it already? Oh.
SPEAKER_05:And uh after this fight, this particular fight on the football bus, Brian's father, Rick Bell, allegedly came up to KJ on school grounds and said, Hey, why don't you come to our house and finish that fight with Brian?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, really? Well, that's safe.
SPEAKER_05:And here is the big woo-haw. No, Lindsay. Rick Bell is an FBI agent. Yeah. Or was, excuse me, was.
SPEAKER_04:Never made him no harm.
SPEAKER_03:Knew all you ever saw. I forgot. Been in trouble with the law.
SPEAKER_04:Since the day they were born. There it is. Yeah, yeah. Oh I couldn't remember. I was just trying to pull it out. You know what I mean? Just a good old boy.
SPEAKER_05:That's that's a big, that's a big deal to me.
SPEAKER_04:Well, Dukes of Hazard was from Georgia, you know.
SPEAKER_05:I'm well, I'm talking about this scenario. Yeah. Yeah. That's got an altercation with these two boys whose father happens to be a member of the FBI. And all this shit don't add up.
SPEAKER_04:Talk good old boy stuff. I mean, yeah, he's running the ring really on all that. From him down, sheriff, the city, everything. He's over it because he's there in town. They got it covered up. Oh my god, this is nasty.
SPEAKER_05:Well, also, Brian says uh in an interview later on, technically, he him and uh his brother Brandon refused to be interviewed uh by law officials, but they did an interview for TV. Um, they said that they hadn't that him or Brandon or he hadn't seen KJ the entire day. Brian says this. But way later on, when the documentary that I watched was being made, they found frames where these boys were literally within feet of each other in another part of the school.
SPEAKER_04:They didn't hide that footage, did they? No, they forgot about that one.
SPEAKER_05:Now, there was later an anonymous email sent to investigators saying that there had been a girl involved with KJ that had previously been involved with one of the brothers, and uh a fight was scheduled at the old gym over it. Oh shit. Brothers were mentioned in this email, and it was also said that both of the redacted brothers had spoken of the murder of KJ while under influence. Now, this is in an anonymous email, okay? We don't know, and all the names mentioned were because they're minors are redacted.
SPEAKER_04:So there's some high school kids out there that know some shit. Well, then there were some high school kids that knew some shit at a party or something. They know.
SPEAKER_05:Kenneth and Jackie, they hired a lawyer to help with further investigation, along with the help of Reverend Rose of Southern Christian Leadership Conference or SCLC, which is a civil rights organization, along with a chapter of the uh NAACP. The family believed that if Kendrick had been white, the verdict of his death wouldn't have been ruled a tragic accident. And I I agree in this in this situation.
SPEAKER_04:I agree, but it depended on what what class of uh true just you know I'm saying, because the good old boy system's gonna out trump no matter what color it is. You know what I'm saying? Right. It's gonna outdo it, and not saying the good old boy has to be a color. And who you know, and who you know, who you know, and if you're at the bottom, and we can't we can't do it, we ain't we can't do it.
SPEAKER_05:But if if if they were both the same class of people, well that's just like okay, let's put this out there real quick. Remember a few years back when it was a literal epidemic that people were leaving their fucking children in cars and they were dying from it and getting away with it. Um, well, hold on. So a attorney in our town did this, resulting in a disease, uh a deceased child. And I haven't heard anything about it.
SPEAKER_04:That was it. I brought that up a several times on this podcast.
SPEAKER_05:Later, an individual that worked at Burger King did the same thing straight to jail.
SPEAKER_04:Straight to jail. Yeah, whole different scenario. And not that there's classes between races, I'm just saying supposedly an accident on both ends, but one was charged with negligence, and one got told that's not cool, dude. That's it. That was it. Yeah, like no, that was you gotta go out of our town just to find the real shit. And we know that. Yeah, and not that there's like I said, not that there's classes of people versus races to us, to us at all. But as far as their good old boy system is, there's a whole different fucking well, and uh Georgia, especially southern Georgia, is uh the number largely known as the number one, yeah. Uh Lindsay, I can tell you stories. Oh, I know. I mean, it is horrifically still running rampant up there, and it makes it makes uh North Georgia, which is still pretty fucking bad. It makes North Georgia look like it's way out of that. I mean, way I mean it's a whole different spectrum.
SPEAKER_05:It's like two different worlds, whole different spectrum. Northern Georgia and Southern Georgia, yeah. Now, this was on uh media outlets, including CNN, which resulted in marches and rallies for justice for Kendrick, along with a social media tribute page. This family had every right to believe that shit was just not jiving because, first of all, the coroner doesn't get called for six hours. Some of KJ's effects on his body just disappeared after he left uh the crime lab before he arrived at the funeral. He got scrubbed. The original medical examiner stated that there had appeared to be a sh struggle markings on his body, but the GBI pathologist said no.
SPEAKER_04:He was told to say no.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he got scrubbed of any evidence on him because if there was a fight, there's other evidence of somebody.
SPEAKER_05:Well, in May of 2013, with the help of supporters, the family was able to get the body exhumed for a second autopsy, which would be performed by Dr. William Anderson down here in Florida. While performing the autopsy, it is discovered that his body was stuffed with newspaper.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_05:There was fucking Black Friday ads and shit. Now, I have heard that this does happen. But most places or most, you know, um funeral homes when they're getting a body ready, they use gauze and things of that nature in the body. But his organs were missing. And these organs were not removed for harvesting. He had been dead for a long time before he got to the funeral home.
SPEAKER_04:I'm so fucking shocked right now. I don't know what to think.
SPEAKER_05:His organs were gone. Why? We don't know. So Dr. Anderson said in his autopsy report that there was evidence of blunt forced trauma, and KJ's death should be investigated as a homicide. The family submitted this new report to the Lowndes County Coroner, the GBI, and the Department of Justice, and called for a coroner's inquest, which is a formal public inquiry to determine the cause of an unnatural or unexplained death. This is a fact-finding process to be heard by the grand jury. Seven judges recuse themselves.
SPEAKER_04:Don't want to fuck with this one. Yeah. We already know.
SPEAKER_05:And another attorney uh resigned, and Rick Bell was relieved of his duties as an FBI agent. Now it's alleged that there were uh were black students who were denied a chance to be interviewed that may have known something, and others that were interviewed were told that if they didn't say the right thing, they would not graduate.
SPEAKER_04:Are you kidding me right now? So the whole dump truck of shit that you just dumped. It is not no, yeah, it's not a fuck.
SPEAKER_05:I'm keeping myself.
SPEAKER_04:Um, I'm in my air right now, whole fucking fist in the air right now.
SPEAKER_05:Well, in 2015, the anonymous organization, you know them, right? Um, they got involved and put a 10-minute video about this case, and we're going to play a clip from that.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Yes. Oh, fuck. There is a cover-up of mass propulsions in Val Nasta, Georgia. There is no way that the official story could be the truth. KJ was found beaten and bloody stuffed inside of a map that he could have got out of. The collection of evidence was mishandled purposely to help cover up the crime. The surveillance was edited with ours deleted. The only DNA tested the blood on wall to match KJ's and it didn't match. What really happened to Kendrick Johnson that day? Who killed that boy before he could begin exploring life after high school? Why did the authorities not do a full and complete investigation into the death of this team? With every piece of new evidence that is revealed, there are more questions raised than answers given. Some black students were told they were not allowed to be interviewed by law enforcement. Administration at Mounds High School told students if they talked, their graduation would be threatened. The people of Valdastra know a cover-up has taken place and that local law enforcement will harass and arrest them for providing false statements. The people are afraid of the backlash if they come forward. The time has come for those people to join the fight for justice. Expose the corrupt for who they are. Expose the racism that is alive and well in Valdastra. The time has come to stand against the oppressors and fight for the truth. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Lownds County, Georgia. You should have expected us. Reva fucking Lucian.
SPEAKER_05:I know I'm gonna cry. Because unfortunately, that didn't do any good.
SPEAKER_04:No, they wasn't allowed to. Nobody was allowed to really tell the fucking truth. And they all know it. The whole county knows it. What a fucking dirty ass fucking dirt bag.
SPEAKER_05:Now I I encourage our listeners to look up that video. I mean, it's do you just type in anonymous video, Kendrick Johnson, and it's watch the whole 10-minute video because it also, I mean, it shows you clips and timestamps and everything. And like I said, unfortunately, that was in 2015, and not a lot came out of it. Okay, so the Johnsons filed a hundred thousand dollar lawsuit against 38 individuals that they believed were involved in covering up the murder of KJ. And then they were countersued for defamation and were ordered to pay$292,000 in legal fees of these individuals.
SPEAKER_04:No fucking way.
SPEAKER_05:Now there was a lot, there's a lot of different uh lawsuits, counter-lawsuits that have been going on since then. The family ended up requesting a second exhumation of KJ's body in 2018 for further investigation. And two out of three autopsies show that there was blunt force trauma involved in the death of KJ. In March of 2021, the case was officially reopened and a$500,000 reward was offered by Sheriff Ashley Polk for any information leading to who killed Kendrick Lamar Johnson, and this was out of his own pocket.
SPEAKER_04:Right. At this point, throw everything out of the way.
SPEAKER_05:According to Google, anyway, it says this was his own money.
SPEAKER_04:Let's back everything up because it's all a bunch of bullshit up to this point. That's why I feel like that's two out of three saying that is a homicide.
SPEAKER_05:Now Brian and Brandon Bell were investigated, but were n have still to this day not been named as suspects, even though Brian was disqualified from receiving a scholarship to play football for FSU. Which was, I mean, smart on their part because in ties of that. What if it does come out, you know, and then they've let this guy play football for them? An alleged murderer, you know? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean Which college is crazy. I mean, those kids are making a bunch of money too. And they're like the face of the of the school. Yeah. So yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05:And as of 2025, there are no further updates. But the family continues to fight for justice as to who was really involved and what they strongly believe was the murder of their son.
SPEAKER_04:As we will. As we will. That's what we're here to do. Holy fuck.
SPEAKER_05:You know what's crazy is like I said, I first heard about this case in um 2019 and 2020 and 2021. And uh because you know, I've listened to podcasts for years now, and there was no everybody was hoping for updates then. And here I am, here we are covering it in 2025.
SPEAKER_04:Are we the first podcaster this close to cover this?
SPEAKER_05:What do you mean?
SPEAKER_04:We're fucking close to Valdasta, Georgia.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah, nobody else has been this. We're the first ones this close.
SPEAKER_04:We're stirring the shit this close. I mean, you can throw it's a hundred miles from here. No, less.
SPEAKER_05:60.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:60 from the time you get on I-75 to Valdas is 60 miles.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. We're flipping shit right up the road.
SPEAKER_05:Fuck.
SPEAKER_04:They're gonna come for us, Linda.
SPEAKER_05:That's a whole different world, too.
SPEAKER_04:Big disclaimer, and we're not deleting none of this part right now. If they come for us, y'all will fucking know about it, right? Yeah, because we want justice too. I think it is shady as fuck, a lot of hidden shit, and there's a lot of people that know some shit. Let's get justice.
SPEAKER_05:Go watch the documentary. It's uh I found it on Prime. Um, it's called Finding Kendrick Johnson. It's a very good documentary, and they also talk about other cases that are similar throughout history that have been very, you know, racial, racial undertoned and covered up. And I don't know, it just it hurts my heart. Shit like this, man. It really does. It hurts so bad.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, now is the time for awareness of the racism that is still running.
SPEAKER_05:And I've had I've had two or three people ask me if I was gonna cover this. I'm like, yes, it is on the list. And you know what? For some reason it's been heavy on my heart in the last two months to do this one. So I was like, you know what? We're gonna do it. There we go.
SPEAKER_04:I'm calling on Aunt Aggie over here. I'm calling on her, dude. I'm gonna go drop a red rose.
SPEAKER_05:I just can't get over the fat. I can't I I the I mean, not to mention the newspaper stuffing, the the the corner not being called for six hours. Fucking shady, the shoes not being in the right place. He couldn't fit in the hole.
SPEAKER_04:Before they pulled him out, the shoes were on top of his feet, laying up there out of the way, right above.
SPEAKER_05:So what shoes is he going to grab?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That is what I don't know. Now there were other shoes that under this mat under all these mats because several students, like there was hoodies and earphones and all kinds of shit that kids were storing in these mats as you know, uh a locker system. I know exactly.
SPEAKER_04:It's a wrestling mat. You know, that's where they do the wrestling. I know the mat. I I used to fold them up too because I did that in high school as well. You can stand those things up, takes two people. You can pull it down one person.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Can pull one down. He could have he would even if it was stacked too deep, he would have pulled the first one down, pulled the second one down.
SPEAKER_05:But he's an athlete.
SPEAKER_04:He probably could have pushed them back up or just left them and been like, I got my shit. I'm fixing to go do my stuff, whatever. You know, kids are. They would be like, all right, I got it. But to actually physically try to scoot yourself down in this fucking hole, knowing that your shoulders are already hitting. And even if you're squeezing the mat to the point to where it's expanding enough to where you're wiggling down in it, I would have stopped. Any human would have stopped at that point and been like, wait a minute, this is squeezing me up. Let me wiggle my way back out at that point, you know?
SPEAKER_05:Well, it's sad too that like, you know, Rick Bell was seen talking to other kids, the father, the FBI agent. Right. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Cleaning it up, asking questions, what do you know? Yeah. Knew how to jump right on it. Let's wait six hours before we get anybody over here to actually look at this shit to say, wait a fucking minute, this is not just a fucking ass.
SPEAKER_05:And I don't want this to disappear. I don't want this to go away. And so I'm talking about it here in 2025. Because like I said, most of the other podcasters that I've listed, they covered it, you know, years ago.
SPEAKER_04:But let's keep talking about it. Well, the thing about it is, okay, everything needs to be a collective on a lot of this stuff. We all need to get together. You know, we're spreading this word globally, so are the other podcasters and such. And I'm sure they're putting it out like we are. So it's going everywhere, but collectively, we can all get together. You know, what they've done up there is something I haven't heard about 60 miles away until now. Right. And not that I would remember anyhow, because my brain is shit, but still, 60 miles away, did not really know this was a thing. Did you know about it before podcast?
SPEAKER_05:No.
SPEAKER_04:You didn't either. So now it's it's global. Here we are. Bring it collectively.
SPEAKER_05:And you know, I meant to ask Jojo because you know, she moved to Valdasta around this time when all this went down.
SPEAKER_04:We went up there and hung out a few times.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, well, it was right, okay, so she it was right after Silas was born when she moved up there, and this happened right after because he was born in okay, so he was born at the end of the year of 2013. So she moved there in 2014. Okay, so that was a little longer, but still that was I mean, our kid just turned or is going to be 12 by the time this comes out. And I just heard about this case a few years ago. You just heard about it right now. Keep talking about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, keep talking about it. The wave isn't big enough, so let's all get together. And if you're in the Valdasta area hearing this right now, hit us up. We want more. We want more avenues, we want to be able to spread it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, because I I combed the internet. I could not find any other updates. If y'all know anything further than I do, please message us, email, drink about something, message us, drink about something on Instagram, yeah, um, YouTube.
SPEAKER_04:We have hundreds of listeners within the episode. Comment on this episode. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Comment on this episode if you know anything further, and we'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Call us up. Let's do it. Let's get in deeper and fuck, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_05:And you know, and I do see the okay, so I follow a lot of you know true crime covers on on socials as well. And sometimes they will say, if there was one unsolved crime that you wanna you would want to be solved, which one would it be? And I see this name a lot. And it's all people that are nowhere near us, that live nowhere near us. And we, you know what I'm saying? It's just it's crazy. I mean, we were so close and did not know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So in in in this exact one, we're gonna tag the other podcasters, we're gonna tag all of this. We're gonna just put it all together, put it all out there. And, you know, we're here. We we want we want to put this together to to the point the wave gets fucking big enough to where something will move.
SPEAKER_05:Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Fuck, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_05:Well, that was the end of my case for today.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man. You know, this has been horrifically, so I don't know. Thank you. No cheers, but tears.
SPEAKER_05:I know.
SPEAKER_04:My daddy.
SPEAKER_05:I've cried like four or five times this week over this one and the next one, and the next one that I'm gonna talk about. Cause fucking hell.
SPEAKER_04:You did cloud up. And it's cloud worthy. I'm clouding now, and I'm just I want togetherness across the board. We're we're shutting down the good old boy system. It's happening right here. A town away from us, too.
SPEAKER_05:Get rid of it! Revolution!
SPEAKER_04:Revolution. Y'all do some fucking history on the town next to us. Live oak right now is going through some shit. Millions of dollars missing. Mm-hmm. That's a thing. So embezzlement. You can't get away with it no more. And they deleted a video about this one, so that shows period that it was negligent. There was some shit going on right there. Fuck Lindsay. I can't fucking believe you dumped this and it's a real fucking thing. And I knew it was, I knew it fucking is. I knew it, I know it is, but let's fucking put it into it.
SPEAKER_05:The hardest part is to realize, and that sometimes it's like, okay, I'm talking about this, you know, and I know other people I've heard about it from other people. And then, but then when you sit down, like when I watch the documentary and I watch this family and the people involved just talking, it's like it just really makes it so much more real.
SPEAKER_04:Just it changes my dynamic over here because I'm like, I can't be no kiki, ha ha motherfucker over here. I can't be doing my little goof booting over here. No, I'm just plant the whole time, and then you're just dumping. You're just dumping every time you do the dump shit on me like this.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I'm just gonna go ahead and prepare you. The next two is going to be a little more somber.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So I'll bring out my clown shoes then.
SPEAKER_05:No, no, no. Somber means they're sad.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, never mind.
SPEAKER_05:No. I'm gonna try to get into. I mean, we're we're talking about true crime here, so it's all it all sucks.
SPEAKER_03:It all does.
SPEAKER_05:But um, in January, I've got uh a multi-parter that is gonna be a little bit more lighthearted. It sucks completely, but it's gonna be a little bit more well fucking.
SPEAKER_04:I'm bringing my clown shoes anyhow.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No, it wasn't I'm I am we're all festive over here, so anyhow, we're trying to be holly jolly, but you know, Lindsay wanting to poo-poo on the Christmas parade here.
SPEAKER_05:So, Jesse, what amazing bands are you going to share with us today?
SPEAKER_04:I got a cool band over here. I got a really cool one. I think they're from like South Dakota.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. The new machine.
SPEAKER_05:The new machine.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. And they have the other thank you. Well, uh, did not mean to. So the new machine is revolutionary, and they're taking over South Dakota right now. They're doing some big things. I just looked at their stuff. They have flyers out, follow all their stuff. This song is called Silent Status, and it's fucking amazing. I'm status. Silent status. Yeah. And they're fucking amazing. I can't wait to share this, guys. Um, Revolution. That's what we're gonna do, and we're gonna share all this together. Join the new machine. Here we go. Now watch this drive. Holy fuck, fuck, Lindsay. I said it wrong, silent statues, but still holy shit, Lindsay!
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I was I corrected you and I still got it wrong too. So, yeah, silent statues by the new machine. I have already followed them on um Spotify and on Instagram. They are the new machine band.
SPEAKER_04:They're on fire.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:That is so much talent wrapped up in one band right now.
SPEAKER_05:Right now. Right now. Right now. Listen to all their other songs.
SPEAKER_04:And a bunch of fucking silent statues in Valdasta need to wake up and break up.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. My God.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. Thank you so much for letting us play your music. Thank you so much, Lindsay, for puddling me once again. Oh, I puddled too, bud. You seen it. You clouded and rained a little bit. I clouded. I clouded it.
SPEAKER_05:It's raining outside. It's cloudy and rainy outside, and it is in our hearts as well.
SPEAKER_04:It is. Absolutely. Justice. We want it togetherness. We want that.
SPEAKER_05:We're going to have to do a palette cleanser of an amazing Christmas movie here in a minute.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, or we're just going to listen to our favorite Christmas song. You know the one, Lindsay?
SPEAKER_05:Simply having a wonderful Christmas time.
SPEAKER_04:No?
SPEAKER_05:My brain actually went there too. And I was like, I know he's not going to say this. We were in, we were in Spencer's picking up some gifts. Wasn't even December yet. No, it was uh Black Friday.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And that song started playing right when I was cashing out. I was like, let's go. We're getting out. We're getting out of here right now. We're rushing the cashier and everything. If you haven't caught on, we absolutely hate that song.
SPEAKER_04:We hate that song.
SPEAKER_05:Love Paul McCartney. Hate that song.
SPEAKER_04:Wanted to get the fuck out. We were rev we had a revolution right then.
SPEAKER_05:Describe to the listeners what you imagine.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. All the dads have already had way too much eggnog, right? Now they're downstairs in a 1970s type theme. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:I think that's around when that song came out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:All the particle board, all the plaid, and a couple of Canadian tuxedos, right? They're down there and they're wearing their PJs.
SPEAKER_05:You said you specifically said footy pajamas.
SPEAKER_04:Footy pajamas. That's what it was. Footy pajamas in plaid and Canadian style. Tuxedos. Like just all the denim, all the plaid with footies. Kind of like, okay. Kind of like Ralphie's pink bunny suit. That's what I'm thinking. And they're down there playing with a keyboard, and they've decided to make this song. And they play it for 15 fucking hours.
SPEAKER_05:Hours.
SPEAKER_04:And think it's the best thing they've ever created. It's it's it's like Tenacious D had been creating a Christmas song. Yeah in a song.
SPEAKER_05:They were in a town called Kick-A-Poo.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. In a town called Kick-a-poo. That's what it was, Lindsay. That's that's the song. That's how it got created. Yeah. The Beatles were on something. Speaking of Paul was, anyway.
SPEAKER_05:Speaking of Tenacious D, I let Landon will just randomly at work just start singing that song like off the hip. Like it's great. Long ass pockets. Time ago in a town called Kicka Poo. Live the humble family. Religious family. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Landon will just know what the fuck he's talking about. So I join in and everybody's just looking at us like that.
SPEAKER_04:We love Jack Black, so we had to watch that.
SPEAKER_05:But you know what? They love us in their our weirdness, but they don't know. And I'm like, y'all get on tenacious day.
SPEAKER_04:I believe you're really exposing so much at your work. Oh, I do. I mean, you're like between me and Landon, yeah. You're enlightening. I guarantee you are. We watched that letter to Satan. Was it Letter to Santa instead of Santa? Satan. Letter was it Satan? And where he was supposed to write, you know, and Jack Black's in it, and he's playing the demon, or it's supposed to be Satan, but he's not really. And then Satan was um the actual Satan was uh Ben Stiller. And the whole time is perfect. And the whole time I'm like, nobody makes me bleed my own blood. Yeah. While he's up there sitting on the throng. But anyhow, Lindsay, thank you uh once again. Um in the band. The new machine. With your uh statues, yes, silent ones.
SPEAKER_05:Hashtag justice for Kendrick. Um, Kendrick Johnson, uh KJ, and the Johnson family. Yes. Um follow this amazing band, the new machine, and let's rage against the machine and do all the things that we're gonna have. Simply have a wonderful Christmas time.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we're the bulls and we want to be on parade right now about this. Yeah, we do. Yes, we damn sure want to rally around the family with a pocket full of shells. We damn sure do. Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy. Yes, all that. We will see you guys next Friday. We'll see you Wednesday. We'll see you on all the days.
SPEAKER_05:We're gonna see you all the days, all the holidays.
SPEAKER_04:Have a holly jolly one.
SPEAKER_05:We're gonna we're gonna um start doing um some TikTok lives uh for our recaps as well. We're gonna we're gonna test that out, see how we like it. So um, if you want to follow me, uh drink about something pod underscore Lindsay on TikTok. Okay. Stay tuned for that.
SPEAKER_04:I think I need to get a little deeper into my cup over here.
SPEAKER_05:You need a little shot. You need a little shot.
SPEAKER_04:Bou shotti time.
SPEAKER_05:We'll do a little shot and we'll get this.
SPEAKER_04:So that's all we're gonna be drunk about stuff. Some things, all the things.
SPEAKER_05:And that is our drunk about something recaps.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, let's do it, Lindsay. We're gonna see you guys then, though. We love you so much.
SPEAKER_05:So much. Like, scribe, follow, and share, comment, interact with us. We love you.
SPEAKER_04:And we hope you simply have a wonderful Christmas time.
SPEAKER_05:Bye.
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