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DRUNK ABOUT SOMETHING RECAP THE LAWSON FAMILY AND SOME OLDIES!
A quiet holiday night, a clink of ice in a glass, and then a hard turn into two cases that still haunt the true crime canon. We start with the 1929 Lawson family murders, a Christmas story no one wants but everyone struggles to understand. Charles Lawson dressed his family in new clothes for a portrait, sent his oldest son to town on Christmas morning, and then killed his wife and children before taking his own life. What explains the unthinkable: a head injury, a suspected pregnancy involving daughter Marie, or something else we can’t fully prove because the record is so thin? We examine the timeline, the small-town lore that followed, and the strange afterlife of the home as a tourist stop where the family’s untouched cake sat in a glass case, raisins picked off by visitors like grim souvenirs.
From there, we step into the McMartin Preschool trial, where the 1980s satanic panic met flawed interview techniques and exploded a single allegation into nationwide hysteria. Tunnels, robes, children flushed through toilets—claims that drove excavations, media frenzies, and court battles, while physical evidence failed to keep pace. We unpack how suggestion shaped children’s statements, why a photo lineup once ended with “Chuck Norris,” and what happens to families and institutions when fear outruns facts. These stories don’t sit side by side by accident; together, they reveal how communities try to make meaning from shock, and how narrative can either clarify or consume.
Along the way, we share the sources that helped us navigate the gaps—Disgraceland’s connective tissue, the hard-to-find White Christmas, Bloody Christmas, and the scattered archives that keep these histories alive. We also keep it human: a few sips of “conversational bourbon,” New Year schedule notes, and space for your case requests and music features. If you appreciate careful research, clear-eyed storytelling, and a little warmth around difficult topics, you’re in the right place. Hit play, subscribe, share with a friend who loves true crime without the sensational spin, and tell us: which theory makes the most sense to you—and why?
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Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. Hey. I look like a what Victorian child with a dysentery. No. We've been just hanging out all day at the house.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, we just feel like that, okay. You know, you don't look like that at all. No, no, no, never. Never. I need some color.
SPEAKER_00:I need some color in my face. But, anyways, Jesse, what are you drinking today? I'm drinking bourbon.
SPEAKER_01:I got Bardstown. It's a bourbon company, and it's in the bourbon Bible. And I have the Bible, but Lindsay has, and we love the Bible. The bourbon Bible.
SPEAKER_00:So Jesse really loves bourbon. I'm trying to get two different cameras here and take them. Jelly, Jesse really loves bourbon, and um, so I got him the bourbon Bible, and I have been referring to it when I want to buy him a bottle of bourbon.
SPEAKER_01:You can't go wrong. So she got me that for Christmas, and then this one, Heaven Hill, if you haven't been on the hill.
SPEAKER_00:That one I got for his birthday because it is in December.
SPEAKER_01:I'm loving this one. You can tell that I've already drank some more of the other. I'm like, yeah, um, that's you know. But this is a good conversational bourbon. So, older dudes, if you if you you got a man or somebody that wants to partake in this a conversational drink where they just have something where they're not, you know, trying to get schwasted. He was given um flavor notes in this is amazing.
SPEAKER_00:He was given one of our nephews, I guess you would call it, um, our 20-year-old's best friend. He was giving him the whole rundown of bourbon the other day. It was on Christmas Eve, it was really cute.
SPEAKER_01:So, no, he had just turned 21 not long ago. So we were just like, hey, uh, it's not about partying, you know. You can actually enjoy these drinks, you know, a mixed drink or a cocktail or even a bourbon, you know, on the rocks or or knead if you want. It's more about the conversation. Not about just getting wasted all the time.
SPEAKER_00:Right, not just chugging. You can have a little sip, a little convo.
SPEAKER_01:It's a whole it's a whole vibe. I mean, party, party, but still at the same time, you know, you gotta do it responsibly and no, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he was letting him know what we do in our 40s. We just we just sip and I don't know, these things. So I'm having a watermelon vista bay from my local Aldi. Love the Vista Bay. Boop. And um, I kind of chug these things like water because they're delicious, low calorie, no carbs. It's great, it's great, it's great.
SPEAKER_01:She does it, she does it.
SPEAKER_00:So, first of all, we want to tell you, I hope you guys had a very Merry Christmas. And uh, we're coming up on the new year. And actually, this will be New Year's Eve when this episode drops. Okay. When this recap drops. So, yeah. New Year's Eve. We won't have an episode out on Friday like we normally do, but then the following week we will, and that will be week one in episode one of our multi-parter about the jinx.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's a four-parter thing.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't know if it's four.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe three.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna definitely be three. Could be four, but definitely three.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm gonna try to get a buddy in on that one that's uh kind of a drummer celebrity kind of person. He's played in some bigger bands and stuff, so you will know him whenever I say it. We'll see if we can work it out, though.
SPEAKER_00:So, what made you feel old this week? For our TikTok live fans, we do that on our episodes. I always ask Jesse. I mean, I just think of something. Oh. So we for our TikTok listeners uh right now, what we do on our episodes every week. And if this is your first time seeing us on YouTube, we always ask each other. Well, I I asked Jesse, what made him feel old? Go.
SPEAKER_01:Thinking that I can eat more than what I used to. Is that weird? Because I showed up twice with big old plates of food, and I was like, God, I'm gonna tear this shit up. I ate like half of it, and I felt bad. Not that not that I needed to eat that much, but at the same time, I didn't eat all damn day long. And then I was like, alright, I got my food, I'm gonna tear this down. Well, they say is that weird older people just eat less.
SPEAKER_00:No, they say that that's the problem, is because we did not have anything, so your stomach has shrunk up and you can't and you can't intake all that food that we put on our plate.
SPEAKER_01:So I wanted to get it in, you know. I like to eat. And I had a little bit of everything. It was it was a big plate, it was huge. And I felt old because I couldn't take it down. So I was like, I could tackle this monster and I couldn't do it. So I was like, am I an old man now? And we're in our 40s, we'll share a plate next time.
SPEAKER_00:It's whatever. Um so what made me feel old was I mean, this is year five of having a Christmas with grandchildren.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Now you hit me with something real and hard. No, I was just over here bullshitting about trying to eat a whole plate, and you're you're you're hitting something real.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, it's crazy, isn't it? That is year five of having a Christmases with grandchildren. So that's wild. And then this year, oh my god. So we we have everybody over to stay the night. We have a little slumber party, and they were up at 4 30, and we were like, no, you will wait till seven.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we were about to crash out about eight like that evening. Yeah, but I didn't feel old about none of that. I love the magic, it was very fun, and they think our house is a magical place. So I love that. Magical, yes. That's really awesome. We're good grandparents, I think.
SPEAKER_00:That's the ultimate goal when you are a grandparent, is just to make sure that your grandkids love coming to your house, and it's a magical place. And that doesn't take much. Like we're just we're just clean here and we have toys. That's it. And we have food, so we make cookies with them and fun stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:Silas was eating Santa's cookies the next day.
SPEAKER_00:The old stale cookies that we made for Santa.
SPEAKER_01:I even found a beard hair in one of them. It was kind of gray like yours, Daddy. I said, well, Santa's beard, you know.
SPEAKER_00:And uh, yeah, the milk was still out. Like that was the one thing that we didn't uh we forgot to clean that up. Yeah. It was a lot, it was a lot. Christmas Day is so much for us. But um co-host. Oh, some people want to join in on that. Well, we'll do that another time. Thank you guys. Yeah, we'll do that another time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we'll do a special one. We'll figure out what co-hosting is. That'll be fun.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that'll be fun. Um, so yeah, we're new at this.
SPEAKER_01:We're kind of boomerish in the uh in the in the world here of Yeah, definitely hit us up on the socials if you do want to co-host on something like that. We'll do it. We'll hook it up.
SPEAKER_00:That would be fun, we'll make some plans.
SPEAKER_01:That would be fun.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so we're recapping the Lawson family uh, you can call it the Lawson family murders, the family massacre, the family annihilation. So I don't think a lot of people know about this one. What happened was in uh 1929, a man named Charles Lawson, who had been married for 18 years, he had eight children. Um, unfortunately, one did pass in 1920. So in that by 1929, he still had seven children that he was taking care of, and they had a farm. They had been previous sharecroppers and they saved up enough money to buy their own farm and they lived in uh where did I uh Germantown.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and apparently he had like some kind of head injury or something, you said, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Um, so so I think it was um maybe I didn't write it down. Yeah, I'm looking over my notes here. I did not write down exactly when um his head injury happened, but he did have one. And they say that after that he was um a little bit more erratic and short-tempered. And then um two weeks before Christmas in 1929, which was a very, very hard time in this country, um, he took his family to town two weeks before Christmas to get like a family photo to get brand new clothes.
SPEAKER_01:They were all dressed up and done up, and you know, and everybody in the depression age, what were their faces looking like?
SPEAKER_00:That was the faces.
SPEAKER_01:It really was. One of the daughters had a little grin, but yeah, she was younger, she was probably happy and just to be in town for sure. Yeah, we're going to town, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So on Christmas, so this was two weeks before Christmas. He said that he was doing this for them for a Christmas surprise. And then on Christmas morning, the family gets up, they open presents, and Fanny, his wife, she goes to the kitchen to start her Christmas Day chores of making the food. She starts with making a Christmas cake.
SPEAKER_01:Women be doing the work. What movie did we watch where the where the the chick finally just fled and then went to the top show?
SPEAKER_00:It was a new one uh with Michelle Pfeiper. It was called Oh, period, what period fun period. Watch that.
SPEAKER_01:Because women do be doing the work for Christmas. You know what? And and it's exactly what she said. She said, instead of saying I love you, it's how about let's say how can I help? Yeah. That's that's more love than what you can ever express. Because saying the words don't mean shit. When you get your ass in the kitchen and help out, move so even if dudes just move some trash, set up some stuff, work. Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because I don't really, other than him, he's learned to work around me and knows my rhythm and flow in the kitchen. I don't really want anybody in there, but do something else in the house. Um, you know, sweep, um, clean up, clean up trash. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Lindsay has this bubble, and you don't get in that bubble when she's in the zone.
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm just like, let me just bounce around it because I don't want to, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why I literally and that's why I always say no to help in the kitchen unless I can just come up the like I can tell Jesse, okay, great some cheese, chop some this, chop some that, and he knows now because I have taken the time to bounce off my skills, whatever I can do and handle, and you don't have to worry about that part. Right. Help me empty the dishes, or you know, because sometimes that helps just empty in the drying rack, whatnot. So Fanny, she she's doing the work, and Charles decides to send Arthur, who is his oldest boy.
SPEAKER_01:The biggest one.
SPEAKER_00:And he is 16 years old at the time. He was like, Hey, if you want to go rabbit hunting, hunting, and that is what they did, um, you gotta go to town, you gotta get some ammunition. Well, there's a lot of theories behind the fact of why he sent Arthur off. But now that we've seen the size of Arthur, it had to be because of his size. He was as big as him.
SPEAKER_01:At first, I had some some different ideas and thoughts, but you put it all in perspective at the end. Go ahead and spill it on him, Lindsay. God, it was a bad one.
SPEAKER_00:So Arthur leaves, he goes to town to get ammunition, and one by one, I I definitely want you guys to go back and listen to the episode. Uh, one by one, he takes every single member of his family out. Charles does.
SPEAKER_01:With a shotgun.
SPEAKER_00:With a shotgun. And then he goes to the woods and he takes his own life. Um, now he does not annihilate everybody with the shotgun.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, he didn't? No. He strangled.
SPEAKER_00:He took he took the life of the baby. Yeah. There was a baby. Uh so a trigger warning on that, uh, if you listen. And and there were four kids like under eight. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um it was rough.
SPEAKER_00:And his two daughters that he shot first, they were like just they were happy and skipping on their way to their aunt and uncle's house across the field. And he took them out with a shotgun. And then um second, I have to think of this thing. I do put in the thing in our caption as true crime recap. So um anyways, we are um where are we at? We are recapping I'm gonna say this in the YouTube because we are on TikTok live. We are recapping recapping a true crime episode that does uh deal with um murder and self-harm. There we go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_00:So sorry, you're talking about the girls skipping across the field and then we just had a restriction on TikTok live. So yeah, that's why I was saying stay together. Yeah. So, anyways, um so the family is all gone. And Arthur, the only surviving son, to hear about this, is uh he's still in town buying ammunition when he gets word of his family's annihilation. And then after that, his brother he decides to uh come in and turn this place into a theme park. Theme park. Yeah, tourist attractions. For many, many years, many, many years. Um, and the Christmas cake that was never served to the family became one of the main attractions, and people would take raisins off the top of it as souvenirs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they had to put it in a glass case because people were like a free raisin from the horror house.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and then they end up ended up burying the cake. I don't know why they had to bury it.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe that was like significant, symbolic, symbolic. There we go. But burying the dad with all the kids and the fam, that wasn't cool, like you said.
SPEAKER_00:No, not at all. So there are many theories behind uh why Charles did this. Number one is his brain injury, but his brain was studied by John Hopkins Hospital. But you know, this is still the 20, you know, this is 29. This is yeah, it was a different time. Um, resources were different, science was different.
SPEAKER_01:You said science wasn't sciencing then.
SPEAKER_00:It was not. Yeah. Wow. Uh you know, so um then there was the uh trigger warning. I'm gonna go ahead and say that. Um, there was the theory that um there was incest involved with him and his daughter Marie.
SPEAKER_01:And uh he felt like that was probably more accurate. Yes, and he was trying to eliminate the struggle of his oldest son, because his oldest son was a big dude. Like he was a full grown dude. Like he would have probably thrown a wrench in the spokes, you know, and all the thinkings and his plan. So that's why he sent his son off. Well, the theory behind out the light, you know?
SPEAKER_00:The theory behind um uh with Charles and Marie was known and said by other people in town, friends, and family. So that is why that is thought to be the more accurate theory that sh there was an ancestral relationship and um she was pregnant with with the child. Right.
SPEAKER_01:You can't hide it no more, right? That's coming time, you couldn't hide it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right, but on Christmas, Lindsay, on Christmas Day. That's pretty freaking brutal. That's why I'm grabbing this because pretty freaking brutal. Um so definitely go back, listen to that full episode. Um, it did. We did put it out on Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_01:61 episode.
SPEAKER_00:Episode 61. Um, and then we have, of course, our full catalog. And I'm going to actually, I'm gonna bring oh, so the song that we feature on that is the band is called Good Boy with Two Eyes. It's G-O-O-D-B-O-I-I. And the song is called Shoot Me Parentheses Salute Me.
SPEAKER_01:You can find it on YouTube. Uh, I didn't see a lot on their socials, but check it out if you're into like it was like a rap ballad of just gangster rap stuff. It was really cool, which is kind of it was it was an amazing song. Kind of a weird contrast when we've came across that a couple of times, but we love the support of music, so right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely. Now, and there was a a little bit of um paranormal stuff behind or behind the Lawson family murders, and um that like snow nor leaves will fall on Charles's grave, and they're all buried in the same plot.
SPEAKER_01:And we want to do some deeper diving on that because there's not no no no I tried.
SPEAKER_00:You did there's not a lot of info on this case, period. I heard about this case first because I do want to plug this again. I do in the episode. If you don't listen to Disgraceland, get on that right now.
SPEAKER_01:You you had found this is like a diamond in the rough for true crime. Not saying that diamond is true crime by any means, but you found this was a hunk of coal. Hunk of coal in the middle of all the mix of old history that is horrific.
SPEAKER_00:So it was so Disgraceland is a complete uh music, well, not complete, they do some actors too. Um, but it's a music true crime or music-based true crime show uh podcast by Jake Brennan, and he talks about true crime in the music world, which I love.
SPEAKER_01:Was it like the drummer of Derek and the Dominoes?
SPEAKER_00:So he so the yes, the true crime is about the drummer from Derek and the Dominoes, and the B story is the Lost and Family Murders. Wow. So it yeah, I and and he puts on a like a and a production.
SPEAKER_01:And you pried it out of it. You were like, here's their thing, and you're like, here's this rock. There's this glowing rock. I'm gonna pry it out, and then there it is, and then the whole story came out.
SPEAKER_00:I thought that I thought that it was a fake story, I thought it was a fictional novel. I do say that in the episode as well, but it is not, it is a true story, and there's just but unfortunately, what I said is like the extent to the information.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was distastefully tasteful that you dug that out for everybody, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_00:Well, um, there's a I mean, there's a there's a few more people that cover it for sure, but um there is a book out that I could not find on audiobook, and that's the only way that I can read a book these days is listen to it audibly. So it's called White Christmas, Bloody Christmas, and this came out in the 90s, and that has a lot of the theories um behind why they think this happened.
SPEAKER_01:Because he's just not into that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And what's crazy is there's not a lot about Arthur, who was the lone survivor, except other he he got into an accident 15 years later and passed away after he left a wife, he he left behind a wife and four children.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. So yeah, deeper dive if you want to check out the podcast, drink about something dot side. Or uh Gen Z, J E N D S E Y, on anything, you will find us. Uh, just Google it. It's easy to find.
SPEAKER_00:So here uh every now and then what I'm gonna do is on these recaps is I'm gonna grab a script from a previous episode and we'll re-recap that. Because we didn't re we didn't recap them all in the beginning.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_00:So this is an old one. This was our second episode, and we were just talking about it the other night.
SPEAKER_01:Now you gotta pull something up. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So the the McMartin preschool trial.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So this came to our intention. Yes. So my best friend, she was just listening to this episode the other day and she was like, I'm so confused. Was all that lies or not? And it is. So we're gonna get into it just really quickly.
SPEAKER_01:So in California, right? Wasn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, Manhattan Beach, California. Uh huh. A daycare that was ran by Virginia McMartin and uh Peggy McMartin Bucky. Um they ran this daycare, it was a family daycare had been around for two 28 years. Wow. 28 years.
SPEAKER_01:So this is a twofer like little conversation that we're having around here.
SPEAKER_00:And um it had been around for 28 years and was attended by children of upper middle class families, and they had won awards for their services. Now, in 1983, this woman named Judy Johnson, she was a mom of one of the preschoolers um who was two years old. Uh, she reported to the police that her son had been trigger warning, um, assaulted. Listen to the full episode, drink about something.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, and we were babies. We're still we still are. Yes. But we were so babies then.
SPEAKER_00:So that her son had been assaulted by um one of the teachers at McMartan Preschool, and his name was Ray Bucky, and this was the son of Peggy Bucky. So he was a family member, he was in the family. Now, um, she made several accusations um about other daycare workers um involving animals, um harm to the children, and uh They said they were going on field trips. Yeah. So what happened before we get into that part? What happened was so uh Susan is that what I said? Yeah, Susan Johnson, she made this accusation. So that made this daycare become under investigation. Now there wasn't enough evidence to convict anybody, but they still investigated it. And um basically, this woman named Keith McFarlane came in and somehow got all these kids in this daycare, like past, present, everything, to just make up these insane stories.
SPEAKER_01:Satanically, panically.
SPEAKER_00:About what was going on in this daycare, that satanic rituals were happening. Whoa, uh that there was tunnels underground, that children were being flushed down the toilet.
SPEAKER_01:They were sacrificing rabbits and shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was crazy. It was all, let me put this out, it was all faults. It was all faults.
SPEAKER_01:There was some shit really happening at home, though, we feel like, right?
SPEAKER_00:Well, it all come down to Susan Johnson, who made the initial accusation, and she ended up being diagnosed with schizophrenia later on down the road. That's how crazy things can get, especially back in back in the satanic panic era, one little thing can blow up into tearing down an entire history.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, if you look at like rosewood in Florida, you know, it's happened in history. One person can plant a seed and it just spread like wildfire, you know?
SPEAKER_00:And it's so sad because this entire like dynasty, I mean, people are like, oh whatever, it's a daycare. No. This was a place of comfort for a lot of families to be able that families trusted to bring their children. It was a family-run organization, and it was basically just shot to hell by one seed. By one person, yeah. One person, and then Ray Bucky has had to go off and live like off the grid and spend a lot of time in jail for things he didn't do. So that's terrible. And um, let me get let me let me look. I'm gonna just name a few of the things.
SPEAKER_01:This is the first time we've done a twofer.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just gonna name off a few of the things that um were by the way.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you guys for joining in on the Lives. We are drink about something podcast. And we're sharing it on both uh spectrums here. We're gonna record this one, and you can check it out later on YouTube. You just type in Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y, and you can see all of our content. Thank you guys so much for joining in over here.
SPEAKER_00:So, um things that were being accused in this scenario here in this case, um, that kids they were taking field trips to a Catholic church where people in hooded robes were sacrificing animals. Um now listen, I'm not gonna go into everything because I want you guys to listen to the episode. Um there's some explicit things that I can't mention on TikTok here, and we kind of got both of that going at the same time. That there were underground tunnels. Um there was a there was even so one there was 145 kids that were interviewed about these accusations about the stay care and Ray Bucky.
SPEAKER_01:Is that the one where they did the thing with the little dolls and shit?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:You kidding me?
SPEAKER_00:This is the one there's a documentary on that as well. But this one kid, uh, they lined up photos of Ray Bucky, um, another person and Chuck Norris. And they the kid picked out Chuck Norris as as their abusive teacher. So, like I said, these were children. They were being groomed into a farce story.
SPEAKER_01:And thank you, Chuck Norris, for making that decision in Dodgeball. We just watched Dodgeball. He gave it a thumbs up in Dodgeball for the for the for the final final death match in Dodgeball. That's right. We love Chuck Norris.
SPEAKER_00:But I mean, this this daycare had there, I mean, ex uh excavations had to be had because there was there were they were being accused of animal sacrifice, so they were looking for animal bones. Um and even archaeologists were hired. Archaeologists.
SPEAKER_01:They spent millions of dollars in research to try to prove all the bullshit that didn't happen.
SPEAKER_00:I think actually it was 360 um were uh original originally called to testify, and only 41 showed up. Um and then it was just it's mad, it was madness. It was satanic panic at its best. Um so make sure y'all go and listen to that. That was our second episode. We were still very much babies. We're still very much babies.
SPEAKER_01:That was number two.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Yeah, so like we were babies.
SPEAKER_01:God.
SPEAKER_00:I'm trying to see when what the name of the documentary was that I can put that on.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, we watched a doc on that where they brought out the little dolls and all they were making, they were manipulating all these children into this big story. God, what a hell of a narrative to push on little kids, you know? What was that doc?
SPEAKER_00:I don't have it listed on here.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, there's some documentaries on it, though. You can definitely check it out.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, just look up, yeah, Google McMartin Preschool. Yeah. McMartin preschool trial. Um, Ray, that was kind of like his first appearance back in public since the 80s and or 90s. When did this happen? When did I say this happen? This was in the 80s, yes. So that was definitely and he had to go at Ray had to go into hiding for years. He did have a wife and child, but he had to go into hiding for years. Came out with um on the documentary year many, many years later, and it was just an insane case. It was horrible, it was terrible. It can just, I mean, and there's so many cases like that where things just get blown out of proportion, lies get told, and it's terrible. I don't I don't know what give me some other words.
SPEAKER_01:It was just all of the things. I think on our first episode, if we want to re- We haven't recapped that one yet.
SPEAKER_00:No, like I said, I'm just gonna randomly pick up.
SPEAKER_01:You know what we need to do on our first uh about our very first one? We need to go up there because uh you can get like a brick from like the house and stuff. Oh, yeah. Maybe we need to do that live there. You want to make that a thing?
SPEAKER_00:We can maybe this fall do that.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe this coming fall, 2026, we'll go up there, September, October.
SPEAKER_00:That would be cool.
SPEAKER_01:That'd be a nice trip, North Georgia area. So, but yeah, yeah, check out all of our stuff. We're uh drinkaboutsomething.site or drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. If you have any comments or anything, you can you can just send us some links if you want to be uh part of this whole thing. Hit us up. Let's make some plans.
SPEAKER_00:Drink about something on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:If you have a case that you would love to hear us talk about, if you're already a fan, hit us up. I just got a message today from one of my listeners for a request, so yeah. And so I'll be covering that one later.
SPEAKER_01:There's some people that are hitting us up that do books and documentaries and things. I mean, we have tied into a couple of cool things.
SPEAKER_00:We're just trying to line them all up, and that would be which is very exciting because this has just been like a fun hobby for us.
SPEAKER_01:But sharing the information, you know, to the masses, that is. I keep knocking all the equipment down. We're kind of global, so that's that's really cool. And being able to get this news and information and sharing a band, that's what I like to do. Yeah, just share some music around the world. So sharing these stories and our contrast and input and our thoughts is all it is behind something that really happened. So, yeah, that's what we're here for.
SPEAKER_00:And if you're uh listening or watching on YouTube right now, this is live, raw, uncut, and unedited.
SPEAKER_01:It was us and being us and us and us and so it's gonna be Happy New Year's fumble.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we'll we're gonna send out another one before New Year's.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, well I know this is New Year's. This is this is New Year's Eve. Happy New Year's, buddy. Happy New Year's Eve.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, happy 2026.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Sippy Pooh's for New Year's.
SPEAKER_00:Like I said, we won't have a regular episode drop on Friday like normal because we took a break for the holidays, but we will be starting with the jinx. And everybody on the lives, follow us.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, follow us on the lives over there, and follow us. Follow us on the uh YouTubes over here. Yes, all the lives in the YouTube.
SPEAKER_00:And I just want to let everybody know what Jesse put in my stocking. He put in my stocking. Um, this is Swear Like a British Schoolboy, and it's a word search puzzle, and I am so excited to get into this.
SPEAKER_01:I think after we get off of this, I want to do like two pages. Let's do two pages.
SPEAKER_00:Two pages.
SPEAKER_01:I'm so down.
SPEAKER_00:We can't talk about some of those. Sweet Franny Adams. Yeah. Go ride a bike, right? British listeners, hit us up with your favorite swearing words.
SPEAKER_01:We love it. We love it. You can say the C word in a lot of those countries, you know, and get away with it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I mean, it's like I think only over here it's like as offensive as it is. It's dumb.
SPEAKER_01:But hey, thank you, Lindsay, for the two-parter. Thank you for the bourbon. The two parters.
SPEAKER_00:The two recapper.
SPEAKER_01:It's a two-parter recap.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you so much for um letting me be a part of this whole legacy of.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, and gentlemen listeners, if y'all know some really good bourbons, hit me up. That way I can keep supplying Jesse drinks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I'm good for a month or three.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it doesn't matter. Always need ideas. Hit me up. Hit me up.
SPEAKER_01:St. Augustine is really hard to compete against. It is.
SPEAKER_00:It is. I don't know why. But we're gonna keep experimenting because it's fun. I like it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we love we love having a cocktail and just telling stories. So this is really cool. Good avenue. Thank you guys so much on the lives. Thank you guys on YouTube. Thank you guys for following all along.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, we love you so much. And uh, we have to get off of here because these kids are just like in our face and need us. I don't know why. But um the kids are gonna need us. Yes, but we wanted to pop on real quick.
SPEAKER_01:Well, let you know we're still here, we're not going anywhere. And lavender, like, should you need us?
SPEAKER_00:Should you need us? Yes. So we're gonna sign off. And um we love you so much, and we'll see you next week. Holler if you need us. Bye.
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