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DRUNK ABOUT SOMETHNG JINX RECAP 2

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A missing wife, a loyal friend who knew too much, and a neighbor found in pieces—this wild middle chapter of the Durst saga is anything but filler. We pick up with Kathy Durst’s push for independence and follow the money: credit cards cut, tuition pulled, and a power play that hardens into motive. From there, we track Susan Berman’s role as Durst’s media shield, the suspicious timing of “gift” checks, and a chilling letter to Beverly Hills PD labeled “cadaver” with a telltale misspelling. It’s the kind of tiny clue that lingers when the headlines fade.

Then we head to Galveston, where Durst hides in plain sight as a deaf, mute woman named Dorothy Siner. Across the hall is Morris Black, a gruff neighbor who ends up dismembered and scattered in bags. How does a man who admits to cutting up a body walk on the murder charge? We break down the self-defense narrative, the missing head, and the courtroom optics that made “reasonable doubt” feel inevitable. Privilege, polish, and time do more than blur the truth—they can bend it.

Between case beats, we talk culture: why the internet clings to conspiracy, how memes like “Where are the bodies, Garth?” get traction, and what happens when fandom collides with reality. You’ll hear us grapple with messy nostalgia, the pain of fallen idols, and the uncomfortable space where art, myth, and accountability meet. If you crave true crime that balances receipts with real talk, this one’s for you.

Hit play, then tell us your strongest theory or the detail you can’t shake. And if you’re new here, stick around—Part 3 lands next with more revelations. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves true crime, and drop a quick rating and review to help others find the show.

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SPEAKER_01:

Hello. Hey Jesse.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01:

What are you having to drink today?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm still on my little coffee drink because it's kind of early for me.

SPEAKER_01:

What do you mean still on? Our listeners don't know what you're still on.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm still on a coffee drink with um it's like a moonshine thing that I've been drinking and I love it. I love like the whole. I don't know what the fucking moonshine is. What is it?

SPEAKER_01:

Describe it. What's going on? Why are you acting like we haven't done this a million times?

SPEAKER_00:

I have. Hazelnut. Hazelnut. Hazelnut rum. It's like a moonshine thing. Yeah. Sugar lamb distillery. We love it. I love it. We all love it. You gotta love it. And that's what I'm on. What are you drinking over there, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_01:

I've got my um mixture of peach and mango white cloth. So yeah, that's what I'm having to drink.

SPEAKER_00:

Sounds delish.

SPEAKER_01:

For this fish. Yeah. Alright, so what we're doing today is on Raw, Uncut, and Unedited, Drunk About Something. Yeah. Uh, we are recapping the Jinx Part 2.

SPEAKER_00:

So we had a whole part one.

SPEAKER_01:

Had a part one.

SPEAKER_00:

And you had a whole part two.

SPEAKER_01:

Which is, okay, so um, man named Bob Durst has a wife named Kathy McCormick. Kathleen. Kathy is what she went by. And she went missing in 1982. And of course, um, Bob was the last person to see her. So go back to our Jinx Part one if you don't know what that is. If you do know who the Jinx is, I'm pretty sure you do. Um it's a very famous case, but Jesse doesn't know anything about it. And our little silent guest over to the side, my 20-year-old Landon. Um part three with us.

SPEAKER_00:

So if you want to find out about part three, Landon's gonna be in there. So he doesn't drink, he's not allowed to yet. He's only 20. So but we were like, you know what, you can be part of this podcast, but you can't you can't partake in the whole the whole scenario.

SPEAKER_01:

He's got his gardening license, so you know.

SPEAKER_00:

How do you get you get your whole gardening license? You get a gardening license. I know it's so dumb. Uh, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

But at the same time, it's it's it's a little bit more responsible.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he is very responsible. And we appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01:

So, Bob Durst, son of a real estate magnate, um, he is a child of privilege. He witnesses his mother's death, kind of fucks him up as a kid.

SPEAKER_00:

And then hang on, I got something on my microphone. I got okay. You're good. Go ahead. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, he grows up, he he becomes educated. Um, he meets his lifelong best friend at UCLA, and then he goes on to become a hippie, and he's very anti-war, which did not please his father, but his father still backed a little side business, a little health food store called All Good Things.

SPEAKER_00:

And all good things come to an end.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And then through All Good Things, he meets his wife, uh, who who will become his wife, Kathy McCormick. And then uh they end up having a very tumultuous relationship. Kathy tries to better herself. She goes from dental hygienist to nurse to trying to- He's a garbage-ash man.

SPEAKER_00:

He was garbage ash.

SPEAKER_01:

He's a garbage motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00:

She was he was doing his own thing, and then when she decided to do her own thing, he became a piece of red flags.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Now, um, she got sick of his shit. She's trying to uh complete her uh to she's trying to become a pediatrician. So he is starts becoming abusive. She's like, I want out this marriage, and you got money. So I uh, you know, in my opinion, and probably pretty much else, she's entitled to some compensation. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

So fucking rich boy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so in response to that, he just is like, fuck you. I'm gonna take your name off the bank account, so I'm gonna cancel your credit cards, and I'm gonna stop paying your tuition. And then in 1982, she goes missing. So we're now we're gonna fast forward to um well, after her disappearance, he's you know, is popular. He's he's a he's a famous man.

SPEAKER_00:

He's got money, he's got fame, and he's already in the limelight, and then he's fucking showing his fucking true colors right in front of all of his rich boy shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. And then Susan Berman, his bestie, she has she becomes like his spokesperson for the media. Um, he really doesn't do a lot of interviews, and she kind of answers for him. And I haven't mentioned this yet, but it is theorized. Remember, I told you in part two that um after Kathy goes missing, the dean of the school she's attending gets a phone call that says, Hey, I got diarrhea and I can't make it into clinicals today. Well, it is theorized that Susan Bourbon probably made that phone call. So that being known, Susan Burman probably knew what happened to Kathy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, she knew the shit, right?

SPEAKER_01:

But there was not a lot of evidence to tie anything to Bob. So we're gonna fast forward to 2000. Um by this point, oh my god, yeah. Seymour Durst has passed away, but not before leaving the company to Bob's younger brother, Douglas.

SPEAKER_00:

He didn't get it. I mean, he did not get the fucking inheritance, so he's well Bob didn't give a shit about it.

SPEAKER_01:

He didn't put no work in.

SPEAKER_00:

He didn't put in the work. He didn't care about the company, but he wanted all the fucking glory.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he wanted the glory, he wanted the money.

SPEAKER_00:

We could tell.

SPEAKER_01:

But he didn't care about the company. So um in 2000, a district attorney who I still am, I'm a piece of shit. I did not get her, I think it's Jean Piero. I think that is her actual name. Correct me if I'm wrong in the comments. Um she is trying to further her career from district attorney. I'm knocking your mic, sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so she's like, we need to go after Bob Durst. We need some answers on Kathleen.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. You know, yeah. How'd that just get washed under the fucking rug? I mean, just because of a rich boy, fucking shit. You know, they're like lady as fuck.

SPEAKER_01:

They're like, uh, well, we need to talk to Susan Berman because that's Bob's bestie, and she probably knows some shit. So after she, uh Susan receives word that she's going to be questioned again by investigators. This is the year 2000. Kathy went missing in '82. You need to make that known. It's a long time.

SPEAKER_00:

Time stamps.

SPEAKER_01:

Long time.

SPEAKER_00:

Time stamps.

SPEAKER_01:

Almost 20 years.

SPEAKER_00:

All the stamps.

SPEAKER_01:

18 years to be exact.

SPEAKER_00:

18 years of stamps.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, um, and in this time, like Susan has been a well published journalist and writer, but she wasn't, she was still struggling financially. And she reaches out to Bob. She has been she has been borrowing from friends and neighbors, things like that to get her through. But she reaches out to Bob because she's driving this piece of shit car from 1984. That's right. The car loans randomly catches on fire. Right. She reaches out to Bob, and for a while she's got crickets. Okay. She's not getting a response, and then all of a sudden, she gets some money in the mail saying it way more than she asked for. She asked for seven grand, she gets so the check that go comes in the mail is for$25,000. But I think she gets a total of a thousand because she keeps records of who she owes and who gives her money. She's that's something we'll talk about in part three. So she's got a record, and she does write down that she's gotten, that she has received a total of$50,000 from Bob.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01:

But the check that she gets in the mail for$25,000 says, this is not a loan, this is a gift. I'm here for you all.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, and that's a deeper dive than what we went into our podcast. I mean, you didn't talk about that.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why the recaps are here because that's why the specialties are specialties. Sometimes I find a little bit more information that I have not found previously. So make sure you listen to all of our recaps.

SPEAKER_00:

Love it.

SPEAKER_01:

So um, she gets the money, she gets a new car. What did you say? Like a debts.

SPEAKER_00:

You said something on the new.

SPEAKER_01:

I just said it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's just like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I literally just said the words. Again, for Jesse. Yeah. Sorry, you guys were probably paying attention, but they weren't. Bob says, this is not a loan, this is a gift.

SPEAKER_00:

That's it. I'm here for you always. That's it. I just wanted to I wanted to recap on the recap. It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_01:

So then shortly after, on December 24th, Christmas Eve, Susan Berman is killed, execution style, in her home. So then we're gonna fast forward again to 2011. Um, Bob is now living in so okay. Real quick though, they didn't. There's okay. Let me reboot, reboot, beep, beep, beep, beep.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because I'm everywhere, right now.

SPEAKER_01:

After I have so much right after Susan Berman's death, or her murder, not really a death. You yeah, you can't shoot yourself execution style. Um this is a murder.

SPEAKER_00:

Um like a mafia hit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, and she was she was um the daughter of a member of the Jewish mafia, so they just tied it to that. But they the Beverly Hills Police Department receives a letter with Susan Berman's address and the words cadaver, which is a very medical term, so put that in the back of your brain for part three, okay?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, part three's coming.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we're recording that next after this. So my God. Beverly is misspelled, it's got an extra E in it, which happened to be something that Bob did.

SPEAKER_00:

I remember this, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

But that case goes cold, and there's no ties to Bob Durst, even though they're like Susan Berman's like his best friend. Um, but this still looks like a mafia hit, even though Mafia wasn't hitting like that in 2000.

SPEAKER_00:

But anyways, I think it always still is.

SPEAKER_01:

It's just I don't have my notes in front of me. I don't know what we did with our printed out copy, but so I'm gonna go off the dome here.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's still here.

SPEAKER_01:

But they still weren't hitting in 2000 like they had been in previous time periods. So 2011, a little boy and his father are fishing in the Galveston Bay. The little boy finds he's 13, he sees a pink blob floating in the ocean, which happens to be a human torso.

SPEAKER_00:

And they found like fucking bags and shit like full of body parts.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's what I was gonna say. After police were called, yeah, several more bard body parts were found dismembered, and those remains happened to belong to a man named Morris Black. Now, Morris Black. It's so rough, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00:

This is all so fucking rough. It's all piling up on the fucking it's rough to me.

SPEAKER_01:

It's rough. It's rough to me. Well, Morris Black happened to be friends with Bob Durst. And Bob Durst was living in Galveston at this time under the guise of a woman.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's what I wanted you to tell them about it. And you told them, because that is the big fucking thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Holy shit. A deaf and mute woman at that named Dorothy Steiner. Because if y'all, if you guys that are familiar with this case already, you know what Bob Durst sounds like. Jesse doesn't know. Um and our and Landon doesn't know. Bob Durst could never disguise his voice as a woman's. Never. Like, I just I couldn't, I couldn't even you I don't know. It's very distinctual, and it's in my head because we watched so much material.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know what he sounds like still.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so Jesse's gonna know what he sounds like after part three because it is so distinctive. Uh he could not disguise the voice. So he became a deaf and mute woman named Dorothy Siner.

SPEAKER_00:

So he's done off to we think he's off like a couple of people already. And he's playing as a woman just to hide his persona, but he can't play a woman, so he's mute.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Right. Whoa. So um the the woman, uh, Dorothy Siner, she is uh her brother-in-law, did her brother-in-law did all of her dealings for her and him slash him, and rented um an apartment across the hall from the person whose remains were just found in the Galveston Bay named Morris Black. They become friends.

SPEAKER_00:

And um This is where all the evidence together, right?

SPEAKER_01:

What had happened was, according to Bob, uh-huh, that uh Morris Black, he was a very uh cranky, combative, confrontational old man.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, we called him a curmudgeon. Cremudgeon, yes, he's a cremudge. I was going there next. You were going to.

SPEAKER_01:

So he's a curmudge, and he reaches for the gun.

SPEAKER_00:

The gun, the gun, the gun.

SPEAKER_01:

The gun. Who Bob fights uh uh the gun, and so it's Morris and Bob and they're fighting over the same gun, and the gun goes off in Morris Black's face. And we only know this because the head was never discovered. The head was never found. And we only know this because Bob admitted to everything that he did to Morris Black.

SPEAKER_00:

And he gets acquitted for it because Billy from fucking Chicago. That's the only reason why we relate.

SPEAKER_01:

Because he hired Richie Richard Gere, aka Billy, Billy Flynn.

SPEAKER_00:

So fucking hey, dude, it's the same fucking scenario. It's all the gun, the gun, the gun, the gun. Oh, fuck Lindsay. I love you so much because of the gun.

SPEAKER_01:

So uh he gets acquitted for the murder and dismemberment of Morris Black because he claimed self-defense, and since there was no evidence to dispute this claim, and Bob Durst looks like a librarian, and he's he's a man of privilege. Yeah, he is shh he right now, he he is acquitted of the murder. Now, um, when he was initially arrested for this, um, he did make bail, but then he jumped bail. So he was he did still have to turn prison time serve prison time for bail jumping and tampering of evidence.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it like hold on okay?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I'm I'm he's cut off when you interrupt me on Riverside.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm so disgusted though, because this is where we're at. This is go ahead.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, go ahead and say, Well, okay, so so he serves jails, he serves prison time for the bell jumping and for the tampering of evidence. Oh, and by the way, I forgot all about Debbie. So before Susan Berman is murdered, uh Bob marries a woman named Debbie. Uh, and I've already forgotten her last name, but you guys that are familiar with this case, you'll know who Debbie is. Debbie. She's she's her own character.

SPEAKER_00:

She's not a downer, right?

SPEAKER_01:

No, and so they they literally never um live together as husband and wife, and it's kind of a marriage of convenience because Bob had previously planned to end his own life um that he didn't go through it, but he took it out on somebody else.

SPEAKER_00:

Um this is deeper, deeper.

SPEAKER_01:

Fuck. Uh, but how do you talk about that in part too?

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe it's deeper than I'm remembering.

SPEAKER_01:

It's deeper than you're remembering.

SPEAKER_00:

Because you're bringing it out now.

SPEAKER_01:

So um Bob serves his time. He get when he gets out, he still has some travel restrictions, and he decides to travel anyway without permission, and then he goes back in for a year to um serve out that time. So he is by 2006, um, and I said 2011. I'm sorry, it was 2001. So Susan Berman was 2000, Morris Black was 2001, so now 2006, he is a free man.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Free to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Um with some with some parole agreements.

SPEAKER_00:

How?

SPEAKER_01:

And then that's uh where we leave off for part two, and then y'all are gonna have to wait to next three, next week for part three.

SPEAKER_00:

But a lot of that happened in Texas, right? Galveston.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's yeah, that's where Morris Black was murdered.

SPEAKER_00:

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Murdered and dismembered.

SPEAKER_00:

We even played a band that was from Texas in the middle of part two when we did Jinx. It was Jinx Part 2, and it was a band from Texas. How did that be?

SPEAKER_01:

You keep talking. I have to excuse myself, I have to go to the restaurant. She's gotta go potty. I gotta go potty.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, the band that we played, holy shit, Lindsay, are you leaving or are you leaving? Yes, hold on. Lindsay's leaving. She's leaving me. I mean, it was just it was crazy how all of this ties together. And the band that I played was from Texas. So check out part two of the jinx on drinkaboutsomething.site. And you, I mean, or if you want to just type in Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y, you will find all of our stuff. Holy shit. And Lindsay's, I mean, I mean, I'm over here sloshed and doing my whole thing because it's drunk about something. Here we are. And she's dropping more shit than I even remember, or she even talked about, I don't know. Oh my god. I am a turd in a punch bowl over here by myself. Landon! I got an innocent bystander over here, I swear. And he is just doing a great job just listening to our whole story and being quiet. But I'm excited about part three, which we're gonna have him a guest on. And I love gueston from Beauty and the Beast. I don't know. I mean he's a he's a dickhead, but he is. But I love Geston, and you're gonna be part of the guest on. And Lindsay had to go potty, but I'm just trying to fill in all the time because Lindsay's got more to tell you guys. Thank you guys for tuning in. And I'm excited about tonight. She's coming.

SPEAKER_01:

Just a phone because I have another phone.

SPEAKER_00:

I have to pull up my phone.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, a coworker and I were discussing this situation the other night, and I was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_00:

What situation?

SPEAKER_01:

I bet my husband doesn't know anything about this. So this would be a great, juicy story to tell you. So I need you to pull up your phone really quick for me because mine is on live. Hey guys, I'm back.

SPEAKER_00:

What are we looking at?

SPEAKER_01:

And my hair is just oh, it's wild today. I'm putting on a beanie. What are we doing? Because we're going to a show tonight. Yes. We'll let you know how it was in the next episode after part three of the jinx. We'll let you know how it was.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm going to make a whole video of tonight's episode. It's going to be amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

I just need Google.

SPEAKER_00:

Goog.

SPEAKER_01:

If you could pull that up for me really quick.

SPEAKER_00:

We're googging.

SPEAKER_01:

So I wanted to ask you a question. Now, Landon, you're not do you know who Garth Brooks is? We've we've probably known his parents. Okay. He was probably the number one our lifetime. In our lifetime, as far as a country singer slash showman. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so I need hold on one second. Did you know that there is a whole probably not. We're getting a little okay. I put trigger warning on here. Why are you trying to restrict me? Okay, we're still live. We're still alive. Um there's a whole theory that Garth, and this is I I am hoping that this is satire, but there's a whole theory that Garth Brooks is a serial killer.

SPEAKER_00:

I have heard this.

SPEAKER_01:

Have you heard it? Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I want you to deep dive into it to trigger everything in my mind, but I have heard this, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Garth Brooks, though. Fuck. Over and we hope this is not true because I like it's true.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a conspiracy.

SPEAKER_01:

Break out your form hats. That he is dealing with the Supreme Court right now to dispute this. Like, I was like, no, this is complete bullshit. Yeah. Like this is just funny ha ha theory. But no, he's actually like in Supreme Court talking about this.

SPEAKER_00:

It's real. I've heard conspiracies about this. Now it's a real thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm looking it up really quick. So I guess we're not going to be able to do better find.

SPEAKER_00:

You better find a little bit of um You can't fuck with Garth Brooks, Lindsay. You can't fuck with Garth Brooks. Come on. All right. We don't want to cancel Garth Brooks.

SPEAKER_01:

So basically, over the years, while Garth Brooks was at his peak in his career and on tour, there were um a lot of coincidences because people would go missing and things like that in places that he would tour on the same day that he was touring.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, in the towns, in the areas. Right. Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I went. It took me to Reddit.

SPEAKER_00:

I've heard this before. I think it's all fucking fake, though. I don't know, man. I don't know. Okay. I mean, I always have friends in low places. I mean, where the whiskey drowns and the beer chases. My blue's away.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so basically, it says the Garth Brooks theory is a widely recognized internet conspiracy theory, and meme suggesting that the country music superstar Garth Brooks is a serial killer responsible for numerous unsolved murders and disappearances across the United States. While it has gained significant traction online, it's often fueled by fans asking, where are the bodies Garth? Now, I first heard about this, and I've plugged this podcast before on our on our platform called Disgraceland.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Please go and listen to that episode. Because it is, it will blow your mind. Because he basically just made an episode based on all the theories, all the Reddit threads and everything. So, um, but yeah, so now it's literally become something that he's having to dispute in the Supreme Court. Right. Yeah. Okay, so you did know about it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, the whole trigger was probably upon by Jojo, your best friend. Because we we we were talking about bands we have seen, Alan Jackson and stuff that I've seen. And she's like, I've seen Garth Brooks when I was like Oh my god, we were talking about that last night.

SPEAKER_01:

I we were like, and this is like you learn something about your best friends every day. Her and I have been best friends. I don't know. And I was like, You did what?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I don't know about this fucking whole conspiracy thing, dude. My full hat's not thick enough.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we're gonna listen. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

What's going on here, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I hair is all in my headphones.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think Garth did anything. He was too busy trying to fucking stay focused on that.

SPEAKER_01:

But my coworker who was talking about this with me was she is on it.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, she really is like she bought she bought it. She's she's into it.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm like, okay, well, we'll see what happens. Because if you there is a documentary about him, and which made me love him even more because when he took time off from his very extremely successful career to make sure his kids were raised right, right, with him present, and like he let his ex-wife stay on his property so to make sure that his kids didn't have to go very far to see their dad and their mother. We're hoping for whole. So that I I think that would absolutely I would probably have to get counseling.

SPEAKER_00:

Was it Trisha? Who is it? Who is his wife?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, his his wife now is Trisha Yearwood. Yeah, yeah. But his first wife, who he has his children with, I don't know her name, um, but they have always remained um copetic. He she has lived on, and she's in this documentary talking well about him. So it's good.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a very all good stuff we've seen.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, and like I said, honestly, if it ever so the shit about fucking Bill Cosby broke broke a little inside of me.

SPEAKER_00:

I still haven't.

SPEAKER_01:

So that was like the first tear down to my childhood because god damn it. Yeah, and then and then of course finding out you know, so many things I learned in the Christian community were false.

SPEAKER_00:

And Michael Jackson and then the Michael. We have him in our room though.

SPEAKER_01:

We have like a whole autograph thing, and and that's one that I honestly separate the artist from the bullshit because it Michael. And we have Bill Cosby shit in our room.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I'm saying. We have we have Michael Jackson's autograph in our room.

SPEAKER_01:

It hurts, it hurts, it hurts.

SPEAKER_00:

But we're trying to we're trying to hang on to our fucking livelihood. We're trying to hang on to our culture, everything that we've gathered in music that we've loved so much, you and comedy you put so much into it.

SPEAKER_01:

Because Bill Cosby was like America's dad, man.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Dr. Huxtable, come on.

SPEAKER_00:

Come on, dude. You you know what? At that moment, though, all the way up to we found out that he fucked around, we have to fucking grasp that part because we think it's wholesome, you know? Fucking, but it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I mean, I'm gonna explain this to our silent guest, my son. So, okay, so find out who is who is your like number one icon since you've grown up? Adam Sandler, probably, right? Okay, so we're big Adam. So find so imagine you're between 25 and 40, and you find out that Adam Sandler was part of this huge scandal that would break. Which is not no, no, no, no, no, not at all. We're just trying to help him understand what we're talking about because Adam Sandler is wholesome as fuck. Um, but just imagine that you find out that he's part of some pedophilic um scandal, or that he was a serial killer in secret, or drugging people into some sexual something or other. Right, or a trafficker or something like that. Oh that's what we're that's what was brought to light if for us.

SPEAKER_00:

And we have them in our room because we idolized those people because we thought they were wholesome ass just um part of Americana that you know you want to hang on forever.

SPEAKER_01:

And I also don't want to punish the rest of the Jackson 5 because they're completely different.

SPEAKER_00:

And you know what? Either way, I'm gonna leave it up there because that's still some kind of legacy that made us feel like stuff. I mean, it's fucking weird. Poor Michael, fucking shitty Michael.

SPEAKER_01:

Garth Brooks better not.

SPEAKER_00:

Garth Brooks better not a killer. I mean, uh we don't have his autograph, and I probably won't buy it because I'm scared.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we can't even we can't even listen to his shit. We had a a whole a whole moment. Um Jesse's last show that he played with his bands um with Galactic Empire. We're on our way home. I had had some sativa, I was jiving, and I was like, Jesse, do you know about these you know, extroverse um versions of some of his of Garth's songs? And he was like, What? So I found them on YouTube. Longer versions, um, and he didn't know about some of that because it didn't always play on the radio.

SPEAKER_00:

So we knew about the third verse of Friends and Lows Low Places, yeah, you know, but you brought out Thunder Rolls, right? And it was like the third verse of, and when you played, I was like, I think I've heard it.

SPEAKER_01:

But then he was like, Okay, okay, okay. Because they would play it every now and again on the radio, and it was so exciting. But guess what it involves?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh Tell me deeper. I mean, tell me deeper. Uh I mean, you know, of course, she got him at the end.

SPEAKER_01:

She got him, she got him, she got him. Fuck a cheater. But um, to wrap this up, um, make sure you guys stay tuned for next week or uh YouTubers. This will be out on Wednesday, so make sure you plug in on Friday for our part three of the jinx, where I'm gonna wrap up this series and have a little bit of shock and awe for those of you that don't know this case, and for those of you that do know this case and just want to listen to somebody else's coverage, because that's me. That's all that's what I'm about. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna listen to 19 different people talk about this shit. And I have that's where she gathers everything. She's really well and also, I mean, I do other resources as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Um foil hat, foe. Foil hat for Garth Brooks because it's conspiracy. And then we have Lannon coming in on part three of Jinx. So check that out on uh Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y on YouTube or drink about something.sight.

SPEAKER_01:

And then we are drinkabout something on Instagram. Uh, you can send us an email at drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. Um make sure we need this so much. We need you we need you listeners' help. We know you're listening, we see the stats. We just need y'all to rate and comment on whatever platform you listen to. That really helps out for the algorithm. And then to see our lives um on TikTok, we are drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00:

Lindsay, we broke like 2,500 downloads already.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Already 2,500 downloads?

unknown:

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00:

Your podcast is doing great.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, it's a slow build, and we're gonna continue. I've got cases for days, and now we have a backlog. Yeah, so we got quite a bit of a backlog. We have what, like 75, 76 episodes?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and then we have with this and everything else, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Like 60, but like just the regular speed is like 62 or something like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So I'm ready to take it on. I'm just a little sloshed, but I'm just over a flight.

SPEAKER_01:

I am empty. I need a refill, and we've got to record our part three of the jinx so we can get on the road to Tallahassee and party with our boys.

SPEAKER_00:

You're gonna see that shit. So follow everything. We're gonna go hang out with some bands and some iconic ass people.

SPEAKER_01:

Come on with us. And we have featured on these episodes. We have featured Defy the Tyrant, we've featured uh Tragic.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And uh we're gonna go see them live tonight.

SPEAKER_00:

And Richard Burke's gonna be there with his band. He is the only person in this world that's played with my band on my stage.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, Kurt has sang with you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but Richard learned my guitar part.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Richard learned the guitar and played with the bands, and that was Richard.

SPEAKER_00:

Love them. So love you guys. If you're around Tallahassee, though, go tomorrow. On the the live over here, go tomorrow. Today. Today. Today, not tomorrow. Today is tomorrow. Today is tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01:

Go today, January 17th. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Go. Go to the show. I was thinking it was tomorrow because I've been so busy. I had to work today. Lindsay, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_01:

I gotta get a drink because we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_00:

Riverfront, Tallahassee. We'll see you guys there. You're gonna check out all the stuff, right? You're gonna share and you're gonna subscribe and you're gonna follow. And I'm flicking my mic because I'm a little slosh.

SPEAKER_01:

By the way, you guys, I put a little bit of uh eyeliner on Jesse. He's got his little emo look today. Okay. Yeah. So okay, we love you guys. We're gonna sign off. Um stay tuned for more to come. We love you. I'm ready. Love you. Bye. Love you, bye.

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