SPEAKER_02: 0:00

Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. And hey Landon. Hey guys. What's up? We got guest in part three. Lindsay. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00: 0:12

We filled Landon in. So Landon is my son. He is um he's a 420 kid, man. And he's 20 years old. Yeah.

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So he doesn't drink in part of our podcast. No, he doesn't. He'll drink about something. Well, we can have some water and some fucking girly shit over here. I don't know. Whatever the fuck are you drinking over here, bud? You know, he's my stepson, and I'll love him to death. Hey, Landon. Love you too.

SPEAKER_01: 0:36

Hey guys.

SPEAKER_02: 0:38

It's cute.

SPEAKER_00: 0:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 0:39

I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 0:41

So what are you drinking today, Mr. Sambaugh?

SPEAKER_02: 0:45

I'm still on some coffee.

SPEAKER_00: 0:47

You keep saying still on. They don't know that you're still on shit.

SPEAKER_02: 0:51

Oh, yeah, they don't, do they?

SPEAKER_00: 0:54

We just came from our live and YouTube recording. It's good, though. Still on.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00

But I'm on. Coffee with hazelnut rum. Yeah. And I love it. It's coffee and hazelnut rum and I love it. Lindsay, what are you drinking over there?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09

I've got my mixture of peach and mango because I can't drink them separately, but together, I'm golden.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17

Holy shit. We got a lot of things. I'm on the claw this week. I'm on the claw. You're on the claw? I'm on the claw. Fuck, she's on the claw, y'all. And we're going to a show later on, and we're going to share that later on because I'm excited and happy fucking Friday, everybody.

SPEAKER_00: 1:34

Happy Friday.

SPEAKER_02: 2:00

So respectfully so, we left off on part two in a dramatic fucking thing that we're going to share with you later on that involves Landon. And he is amazing because he's overcoming his trauma and his things. And I wanted to be part of this podcast because he needs to know that true crime is everywhere. And I am so fucking proud of him being here today with us. Holy shit. Thank you so much for being part of this landing. And thank you so much for being strong, dude. You're amazingly strong. And I'm proud to call you my son. Thank you for being part of this.

SPEAKER_01: 2:39

Well, thank you guys for having me on.

SPEAKER_02: 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 2:41

Yeah. In our last episode, uh, you hear me uh first ignore one phone call and then answer the second. And very glad that I answered that second call because it was an emergency in our family. Uh, we're not gonna go into detail, but not yet. Um Landon was um part of some crew crime. Part of some true crime and he is okay, he is safe, and we are very blessed and lucky that he is sitting here in front of us right now.

SPEAKER_02: 3:16

Strong ass human being, dude. And we have spent the whole ass week since last week just reflecting on all that and trying to rebuild your emotional and and physical self because you went through some shit, dude. Yeah, we're not gonna talk too deep into that because it is an ongoing thing. And I'm just so proud of you, and you're an amazing human being. And I want you to be part of your mom's fucking podcast over here. Oh fuck! I can't wait to dump all that on you guys. You hang out for that. It's coming. We're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00: 3:53

Um, so this week we've all been having some family bonding. We've been uh so we watched some Lord of the Rings together, and we've been in we're still in our uh Game of Thrones rewatch, which Lannon has been a part of since forever.

SPEAKER_02: 4:10

Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. Yeah. We've watched all three parts of Lord of the Rings, and then we're on episode, we're on season three now. Well, and then yesterday to Joffrey's fucking oh demise.

SPEAKER_00: 4:23

Yeah, we just watched the um Blackwater battle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 4:28

Yes. And um Stannis didn't make it. Stannis didn't make it. Stannis did make it. He didn't make it. He didn't make it.

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He did.

SPEAKER_02: 4:36

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 4:36

He did, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02: 4:38

His boats didn't make it. The bows didn't. Yeah. The fucking pyromancer had his shit together.

SPEAKER_00: 4:44

Which I'm telling you, like, I don't know what it is about that fucking wildfire, the wildfire scene. My mojo running.

SPEAKER_02: 4:54

What did you think about our our analogy of who is who on Game of Thrones? We talked about that.

SPEAKER_00: 5:00

Yeah, we tried to relate our family members to some of the Game of Thrones characters. And we have decided that Landon is Podrick. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 5:11

Love it. I I really agree. I really agree. We really went deep in this, y'all. Jesse is the hounds.

SPEAKER_00: 5:19

I mean, I mean, I get it. I get it. I I agree, I guess. And I'm Sansa as far as my growth from childhood goes. Like you go from um kind of uh, you know, a shitty attitude type girl who goes through a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_02: 5:38

Young and innocent. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00: 5:40

Very young and innocent, and just kind of following the leader. The livelihood of everything I know about you to a strong woman who thinks for herself and has her own opinions and her and learns. She learns. It's a process. And there is um a scene in Game of Thrones uh towards I think it's season seven. The season eight is the last, correct? So season seven, where she confronts Littlefinger and she talks to him, and I sob every fucking year. We have rewatched this show nine times. Nine at least. And um she saw she she confronts Littlefinger, and I sob on her just that monologue that she has with Littlefinger of her growing up. Yeah. And because I resonate with that.

SPEAKER_02: 6:40

Yeah. And they did grow up in the middle of all that. And I feel like it all three parts made it to the end. So that's great, right? Yes, they did. Oh, Pa. Um, oh podrick over here. Landon, I'm so fucking proud.

SPEAKER_00: 6:56

And the hound went out with a bang. He went out, but he went out with a motherfucking bang. Fucking be the hound.

SPEAKER_02: 7:01

You know, it made it. It made it to greatness. Either way, you know, I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 7:08

Um, so Jesse, you know, I'm gonna ask you this question. What made you feel old this week?

SPEAKER_02: 7:14

This week, you had mentioned as far as like last fucking episode. You said that Susan's car caught a fire.

SPEAKER_00: 7:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 7:31

And I was part of that in the 80s.

SPEAKER_00: 7:34

Yeah, she well, she was a sh well, you know, just in case this is your first episode, um, go back and listen to the first two cards for sure and all of our backlog. But um Susan had in 2000, she had an 84 model car that would randomly catch fire. Well, when you said Susan was Bob Durst's best friend.

SPEAKER_02: 7:54

It was like full-on trigger. We had like a 70s model car growing up as a kid. That bitch caught fucking slam ass fire, and I was out before everybody, but I was sitting in the back seat. How the hell did I get out? This was like Miracles, man.

SPEAKER_00: 8:11

In the early mid to mid-80s. And you so you were in mid-80s. Okay, okay, so mid-80s, you would only have been like three or four years old.

SPEAKER_02: 8:20

Like three or four.

SPEAKER_00: 8:21

You were a babe?

SPEAKER_02: 8:22

I was a babe, and I was like the first person on the sidewalk. The whole car caught a blaze. I was part of that. That was a trigger memory, and it made me feel old.

SPEAKER_00: 8:32

Well, you know, that's crazy because that resonates with you. Have taught all of our boys that if there is ever a fire, do not try to find us. Just get, and our spot here is our stop sign. Yes. Um, on our street. And accept that because all of our boys have access windows to get out. They can get out.

SPEAKER_02: 8:55

Get out and go to a spot, and I'm gonna meet you there. Otherwise, I'm coming back for you if you're not there. And I have to have a plan because you you set up things like that in your livelihood, and I went through that, obviously, in a car. I don't know how I got out because the windows didn't roll down in the back, and I'm in the back. How did I get out first? I was a little Jesse Couch that fucking jumped out somehow. I was the first person on the sidewalk. The whole car's caught on fire, and we're uh, I don't even remember the store we were close by, but I remember getting a He-Man doll from there one time. It was really cool, and I was like, I got a He-Man doll from there. And I I was relating the whole spot from where I was at, whole car caught on fire. I was probably five or six, and it was just like made me feel old because you talked about a car. What made you feel old, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_00: 9:48

Well, right now, you're talking about He-Man. So um, I always kind of go off the dumb on these. So He-Man is something that you and I bonded over very early in our relationship because um I remember still living in Lakeland. So that was, we moved to Lake City when I was six. So this was pre-Lake City years. I first thing in the morning, my show was He-Man and then She-Ra, which was the female counterpart.

SPEAKER_02: 10:18

Yeah. Female spanoffice. I had a She-Ra doll and everything. I still can't believe I was allowed to have a She-Ra doll. You really did? Hopefully.

SPEAKER_00: 10:25

Yeah, my parents wouldn't allow me to have a role.

SPEAKER_02: 10:27

You're not allowed to have magical stuff, Lindsay. Landon, though, I just wanted to ask you.

SPEAKER_00: 10:32

I think that it was gifted to me by somebody else, though. Really? And for some reason I was allowed to keep her for a while.

SPEAKER_02: 10:37

They let it fly.

SPEAKER_00: 10:38

They let it fly.

SPEAKER_02: 10:39

Landon, I I want you to think about it, bro. What made you feel old this week?

SPEAKER_00: 10:45

Landon's only 20, but what made you feel old this week?

SPEAKER_01: 10:51

Oh, watching Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_02: 10:54

Yeah. Because you've been watching it for a long time. Yeah. That made you feel old. I mean, I get it. As a 20-year-old, eight years is a fucking long ass time for a 20-year-old. Oh, you know, I feel bad about letting him watch that shit fucking eight years ago when he's only 20.

SPEAKER_00: 11:11

But you know what's funny is he still will fast forward through the parts that Jesse fast would fast forward through while he was a kid.

SPEAKER_02: 11:19

You don't need all that. We don't need it around us, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 11:22

Because like cussing and battling is one thing.

SPEAKER_02: 11:26

But then, you know, there's a lot of sexual shit.

SPEAKER_00: 11:29

There's a whole new level. And which also reminds me of when Forrest Gump came out. My dad was the same way with me. I was allowed to watch the battles. I was allowed to hear the cussing, but the sexual scenes were.

SPEAKER_02: 11:39

Yeah, when Jenny laid down with Forrest, it was like a big thing.

SPEAKER_00: 11:42

When Jenny laid down with anybody. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 11:44

Or the cigarettes. Yeah, because we love some. Tell us about Landon. Tell us about some fucking Forrest Gump, bro. I mean, come on. We love some forest.

SPEAKER_00: 11:56

We're not, yeah, we don't really shelter our kids from everything, but there's just certain things that you have to fast forward through because their little minds don't understand it. And even the cussing and the babbling, they won't understand either. But it's cool for you to re-watch the older you get, right? Because you understand more and more. Yeah. Right? What's going on?

SPEAKER_01: 12:18

And I must have drank 15 Doctor Peppas that day. There you go.

SPEAKER_02: 12:23

Landon loves Forrest Gun. Silas loves it. He was like trying to figure out the space thing with Lieutenant Den. I was like, well, he had fucking space legs. Yes, he had space legs. NASA on his on his legs. Gave him new new legs when he showed up for the wedding. So it was like it all ties together. You got new legs. Yeah, Lieutenant Daddy.

SPEAKER_00: 12:45

And Forrest Gump is just an iconic history movie. I mean, honestly, like it gives you a great entertaining watch. Yeah, they put it right time stamps through pretty much our parents, me and Jesse's parents' childhood. Oh. And then on up to our own childhood.

SPEAKER_02: 13:09

We can involve the last two generations in Forrest Gump. We can it's all there.

SPEAKER_00: 13:14

Oh yeah, that movie will, that movie's gonna live on forever. And motherfucking Tom Hanks made that role his goddamn bitch.

SPEAKER_02: 13:21

Like, well, you know, Landon and I has even watched Band of Brothers and things like that. So we love Tom Hanks fucking full on.

SPEAKER_00: 13:30

What was that fucking movie that you made me watch with him talking about his little brother? Radio Flyer?

SPEAKER_01: 13:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 13:39

God damn it, Jesse.

SPEAKER_01: 13:41

I I like the Tom Hanks movie where um The Mermaid The Mermaid. Yes! Yes, that one.

SPEAKER_00: 13:47

That was my that was my introduction. Your mama. That was my introduction to Tom Hanks. Um Splash. Splash. That was the very first movie I ever watched with Tom Hanks in it. And then Turner and Hooch. Big. God damn it. Turner and Hooch, though. Yeah. So do you know that my first grade teacher? So it um all of you Gen X and millennials, you know Turner and Hooch. So just imagine you being in first grade and your teacher letting you watch Turner and Hooch. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 14:21

And big though. I love big. Big was iconic iconic. Every bit of that. We have fully taken on the whole category of Tom Hanks. I mean, I love it. I really do. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00: 14:37

Alright, so now we have gotten our banters three out of the way. And we are we're gonna dive back into Bob Durst for our part three.

SPEAKER_02: 14:50

Fuck, dude, you left me at a fucking cliffhanger, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 14:55

So now we have talked about two crimes that are linked to Bob Durst. The disappearance of his wife Kathy and the execution style murder of his best friend Susan Berman, but no evidence of Bob being involved in either one of those.

SPEAKER_02: 15:11

Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_00: 15:13

But then there was the murder and dismemberment of his friend Morris Black, in which he claimed self-defense and he was tried and acquitted.

SPEAKER_02: 15:23

Yeah, because of the whole Chicago gun.

SPEAKER_00: 15:26

Chicago gun. He had Billy Flynn on his top. Caga gun.

SPEAKER_01: 15:32

Shouts out to Jose Men.

SPEAKER_00: 15:34

But he did, yeah. But uh he did still serve time in prison for tampering with the evidence and bail jumping. But he got out in 2005, took an unauthorized trip, which landed him back in jail until March of 2006. Okay?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 15:53

All right, so now here we go.

SPEAKER_02: 15:56

I'm going to the plant early, Lindsay, because I just need plant early, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 16:02

I'm Robert Plant is there for you. But Courtney is a floor. Oh, Courtney, she's blooming. Courtney is blooming. Courtney is blooming. She's got a bloom going. Robert Ty Nut Robert. So this is Courtney. Landon, I don't even know the name of our plant. So this is Courtney LePlant from one of our favorite bands, Spirit Box. Robert Plant from Day uh from um, god damn it, Led Zeppelin. Yeah. I was about to say Days and Confused. Welcome to Zeppelin. But that's my favorite Led Zeppelin song.

SPEAKER_02: 16:26

Welcome to our world, Landon. Is that your necklace that is making it? Yes, it is. All right.

SPEAKER_00: 16:32

I'm tucking in on my noises. All right.

SPEAKER_02: 16:34

You tucked them in. You tucked them in. The microphone forward. We're still planting, though, because I know you're fixing to dump it already. I don't know if Landon's ready for this. He's only 20, Lindsay. He's ready. No, he oh, are you ready, Landon?

SPEAKER_01: 16:48

I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00: 16:49

Oh, come on. She had. So now, okay, so a few years later, after 2006, after Bob has been acquitted of murder and all his prison time is done. Okay. A director named Andrew Gerecki made a film called All Good Things, starring Ryan Gosling.

SPEAKER_02: 17:12

You literally have told me to hang on to all good things. This whole fucking It's coming to you.

SPEAKER_00: 17:19

It's all coming back. It's all coming back. Surprise Fecton.

SPEAKER_02: 17:22

You were like, Lindsay, you were like, you know what? You need to remember all good things. I was like, all good things come to an end, but I never did say it, but now they have. Fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 17:31

So anyway, so this movie starred Ryan Gosling and Kirsten Dunst. Okay. And this movie is loosely based on the story of Bob Durst and Kathy McCormick. And Jesse watched this movie with me before this podcast was ever created. Even created. And I said, Jesse, this story is loosely based off somebody I'm going to talk about later on down the line. As if I'm going to remember that shit. I know. It's great. It's great that you forget.

SPEAKER_02: 18:02

As if.

SPEAKER_00: 18:03

So now in the movie, their names are changed to David and Katie Marks. And I believe the person who portrays Susan is Deborah Learman. So that movie came out in 2010.

SPEAKER_02: 18:17

So shortly after. So fuck you, movie writers, that just grab something like True Crime and make this bad movie.

SPEAKER_00: 18:27

Hold your thoughts. I can't put them together. Because it's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_02: 18:32

So many of them.

SPEAKER_00: 18:33

So shortly after this film's released, Bob Durst calls up Andrew Jerecki. The man who made this movie and is like, hey, I liked your movie and I have some thoughts. So you want to interview me? And Bob had not done this for anybody.

SPEAKER_02: 18:56

I just want to do it. This is fucking insane to me.

SPEAKER_00: 19:02

So the DVD commentary on that movie, All Good Things, features Bob Durst and Andrew Derecki talking to each other. And this was released um later on, okay? Yeah. So then Bob's like, you know, why don't why don't you interview me and make a documentary, bruh? Documentary about the life of crimes of Bob Durst. So Jerecki produced a six-part documentary with full interview, with a full interview of Bob Durst. And it's called The Jinx Life and Deaths of Robert Durst. And it's on HBO, and it's one of my main resources. Are you kidding me? For this entire case. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 19:58

Landon. Land. So tie all this together and we're gonna watch this shit together. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 20:08

We're definitely gonna watch it, bro. Lindsay. Now y'all are gonna have to do that on your time.

SPEAKER_01: 20:14

I'm off the two tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00: 20:17

Do it. Because each segment, I think, is only about each episode is only about 35 minutes. Yeah. So y'all could get through it tomorrow. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. Hey, okay. And Lizzie's been hanging on to this shit for fucking ever. I have. I have been exploding inside waiting to tell Jess about this. Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 20:36

What's in your mom's mind that she has fucking gone through and already collected in her fucking Rolodex of everything? It's a very large Rolodex. It is deep, dude. It is so deep.

SPEAKER_00: 20:47

So in this documentary, Bob goes into detail of Morris Black's dismemberment and disposal. It's crazy. It's terrifying. Everything. Watching this dude who literally looks like a goddamn librarian with his dead eyes. He has the deadest eyes I've ever seen in my life. And he's talking about this shit very monotone, very chill.

SPEAKER_02: 21:15

Like I said, blonde.

SPEAKER_00: 21:17

Yeah. You didn't agree with me then, but you know you agree with me now. And I'm gonna tell you, this documentary is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. And I've watched a lot of them, and it is so good. And the theme song is the best part of it. It's that song I played for you while you were in the shower earlier. This is a song, it's called Fresh Blood by the Eels. And it is, was that not a badass song? You have to admit that song is so fucking good. I said it when I was in the shower. He did. He was like, Can we listen to Mary Lamanson next?

SPEAKER_02: 22:00

No, I said, can we listen to Smells Like Children?

SPEAKER_00: 22:02

Smells like children, yeah. Oh now during the filming of the documentary, Susan Berman's stepson, who, for Landon who doesn't know, Susan Berman has stepchildren. And when she divorced their father, these stepchildren loved her so much that they wanted to be with her. Now he ended up dying of an overdose later on. But Susan Berman's stepson found a letter from back in 1999 that Bob had written, and the letter had the same misspelling of the word Beverly with the extra E. E.

SPEAKER_02: 22:41

And which is where I felt old about because her car was fucking burning down.

SPEAKER_00: 22:46

Well, say so when Susan Berman was murdered, the police in Beverly Hills received a letter addressed to them, and then it had Susan Berman's address with the misspelling of the word Beverly, and all it said was cadaver, which is a dead body. And Bob knew that word very well because he had a wife who was practicing to be a doctor. He knew the word cadaver very well.

SPEAKER_02: 23:23

Okay. So the execution style fucking murder before that was just it was so mafia.

SPEAKER_00: 23:33

And this letter was dated one day before Susan's murder, which was December 23rd. She died in on December 24th of 2001. Jerecki and his producers were like, holy shit, did we just come across some new evidence that could incriminate Bob? And it definitely did because Bob uh would end up being arrested for the murder of Susan Berman the very night that the final episode of the Jinx Part One, there will be part two. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02: 24:12

So him wanting to spill his shit, got him. Mm-hmm. Oh.

SPEAKER_00: 24:16

So the episode part six or uh episode six of the Jinx Part One, there will be part two, or there will be two parts, two seasons. Um, but the end of it aired the same night that he would get arrested. Now, the next part that I'm going to tell you blew my mind so hard that I had to literally sit in silence for a while after I learned this information. Okay. So Jerecki had already completed his interview with Bob and asked if he could possibly get a second interview because he wanted to present both letters to Bob and ask him if he also saw the similarities. Like when you compare them. So at first, Bob was like, No, I think you need to get another gig. You've you've you've got enough of Bob Dirst. You need to move on. You need to, you know, do something else. But then he agreed. But he kept canceling, saying that he was in Spain. Then Bob gets arrested for breaking a protective order against his brother Douglas. Remember, I told you how he was kind of stalking Doug?

SPEAKER_02: 25:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 25:30

Well, they seen Bob go up Doug's uh front steps on camera. Yeah, so Doug was Bob's brother who inherited the company. Even though he was the secondborn child. Um and Bob's new wife, Debbie, was kind of like fueling the fire. Like, he took his your birthright from you and blah, blah, blah. But Doug was the one that did the work. Bob didn't deserve it. But, anyways, so he gets arrested for the protective order, for breaking the protective order, and he bonds out and finally decides to do this second interview with Andrew Jerecki. Now, Jerecki on camera shows him both of these letters side by side, like honestly knowing that he could possibly die because Bob gets a little antsy when he's backed into a corner, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02: 26:27

Yeah, he squirrels out. Yeah. It's not a good way.

SPEAKER_00: 26:31

And uh he asked Bob if he could tell which one he did write and which one he didn't. And Bob on camera says, No, I can't. And that was supposed to be the big reveal on the last episode of the documentary. But wait, there's more. So after the second interview is done, Bob goes to the bathroom and he had his mic still pinned on to him, okay? Oh. But he didn't realize that it was so hot.

SPEAKER_02: 27:09

He done went to the plant and he didn't fucking know his microphone was on.

SPEAKER_00: 27:13

Right. So two years. So this was shot in 2013. It doesn't get released till 2015. Two years post-production, an editor named Shelby Siegel noticed that the audio file keeps going when he's in the bathroom. And on this audio file, she hears whispering. So she kind of blows it up how like you do when you're editing. And she hears Bob Durst talking to himself. And it's like he's preparing to argue with his lawyer, who wasn't there for this discovery that Jurecki had just put in front of him on film. So again, I just want to make sure everybody knows Bob Durst wanted this documentary. He called Jurecki himself. He wanted this documentary, okay? So the hot mic picks up these words. And this is famous as fuck, by the way. I just want y'all to know this. So people that maybe listen may already know about this, but Jesse and Landon here does not. So the audio says, there it is. You're caught. You're right, of course. But you can't imagine the rest of them. Now, some of this is gonna sound like gibberish. I don't know what's in the house. Oh, I wanted this. What a disaster. He was right. I was wrong. And then he does this weird burping shit, like a nervous tick type thing. And he does it on camera as well, like he covers his eyes because he can't stop burping. And then he goes to the bathroom and he's he's doing this burping shit again, right? And then the audio continues, and Bob says, I'm having difficulty with the question. What the hell did I do? Killed them all, of course.

SPEAKER_02: 29:07

Holy fuck. He admitted to all that while he's shaking his cack. Literally.

SPEAKER_01: 29:15

That's crazy.

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Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02: 29:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00: 29:20

So yeah, he's basically just admitted to murder on a documentary that he wanted.

SPEAKER_02: 29:25

If you admitted in while you're pissing, Landon. I mean, do you actually sit there and talk to yourself while you're I have never talked to myself while I'm peeing.

SPEAKER_01: 29:37

It's relief.

SPEAKER_02: 29:37

It's more of a ah.

SPEAKER_01: 29:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 29:39

That's that's it. And then you're done.

SPEAKER_01: 29:41

The picture in our bathroom is my face when I pee. Which is off a dumb and dumber. Yeah, dumb and dumber. Making that face, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 29:51

In our guest bathroom, you're just like looking at the battery. Which is the boys' bathroom, yeah. Do we have do we have the one where they're in the hot tub in there?

SPEAKER_01: 29:59

Yes, yes, that is in there.

SPEAKER_02: 30:00

That is the one you're looking at?

SPEAKER_01: 30:01

Like just over the toilet.

SPEAKER_00: 30:04

Well, when they're when they're standing there peeing, it's Harry shitting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 30:07

Yeah, it's him shitting, but that his face is the face I make when I've got it.

SPEAKER_02: 30:11

So our bat our guest bathroom, if you ever come to Gen Z Chestertonfieldville in Lake City, Florida. Our guest bathroom is just iconic. And Landon's looking at looking at him holding his whole hucklebuck taking a shit, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 30:29

Grabbing the walls.

SPEAKER_02: 30:32

When is the last time? Okay. Have you ever laughed harder in the middle of any movie when Harry's fucking got his legs fucking stretched out and he's fucking that last little teeny tiny part of the I remember watching that movie.

SPEAKER_01: 30:50

I never left.

SPEAKER_02: 30:51

Oh, dude, it was a fucking tense, dude. I died. How many fucking stretch marks do I have because of that shit? I think I got like nine stretch marks on that one.

SPEAKER_00: 31:03

Now, so like I said before, Bob would be arrested for the first degree murder of Susan Berman on March 14th, 2015, the night of this episode's airing, okay? He was found at the Canal Street Marriott in New Orleans. Ooh. The Marriott. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 31:24

Didn't stay there.

SPEAKER_00: 31:25

We didn't stay there. Where did we stay there? We stayed at a Windham. We stayed at Windham. It was very close. Very close to that spot. Okay. Now he was under the name. He's still changing his names, okay? He was under the name Everett Ward. And on him, he had a 38 caliber revolver with four live rounds, one spent shell casing. One, a uh five ounces of weed, his birth certificate, his passport, maps of Louisiana, Florida, and Cuba. And then he had a flesh-toned latex mask, fake IDs, and around 42 grand on his in his room.

SPEAKER_02: 32:12

Rich boy with all the fucking money.

SPEAKER_00: 32:14

Yeah. Now it was said before that because I guess you can only withdraw a certain amount per day before the feds get involved. So he was taking out nine grand a day, which I guess is the limit before the federal, you know. Yeah, because after$10,000, it has to be reported. Right. So he was withdrawing nine grand a day until he acquired this much money. And uh it's believed that he was going on the run to Cuba because they don't have an extradition treaty with the U.S.

SPEAKER_01: 32:46

Yeah, once you get there, you're good. So I know you said uh his brother inherited the business. How did he inherit money?

SPEAKER_00: 32:54

Okay, so when Seymour died, he was a disgust. I mean, he was, you know, a lot of money. A lot of money was involved. So he still inherited money, but he didn't inherit the business. So that's how he had that money. I'm sure there was like a trust involved. I'm really not sure because I actually did deep dive into that, like how he acquired the money. Because Seymour really didn't even like him.

SPEAKER_02: 33:16

Yeah, but he was a rich boy and had all the money.

SPEAKER_01: 33:18

Yeah, because this sounds like uh like Christian, kind of like his personality acting like, but he has money instead of well, he was still a child.

SPEAKER_00: 33:29

He was still Seymour's kid, and Seymour probably felt some guilt about him witnessing his mother's death. Um, which is crazy because that kind of ties into your your paternal side of the family.

SPEAKER_02: 33:47

Yeah, what you're talking about is just like a middle.

SPEAKER_00: 33:50

The matriarch or the patriarch of your your father's side of the family uh feels a lot of guilt as to how he's treated his children. So he just kind of just throws money at them as part of um like maybe dealing with his own type of guilt. So it's kind of like that. So he probably just threw Robert an inheritance, but he but Robert didn't inherit the business, which was an ongoing um revenue.

SPEAKER_02: 34:20

Yeah, you know, that's a deep dive into our family history till this day, right?

SPEAKER_00: 34:24

To this day. Yeah. The Durst organization is still going. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 34:28

That's a deep dive into our family history.

SPEAKER_00: 34:30

They have built some of the biggest buildings that and I want you guys to see that on the documentary when you watch it. Oh, yeah. So I want to I do want to plug because Andrew Jerecki is a fucking genius. Like these, this documentary is top notch. So make sure you guys watch the Jinx uh season one and two. So season one is everything leading up to basically his confession, and then season two is the eight years in between that and where we will end this series.

SPEAKER_02: 35:03

What a debacle.

SPEAKER_00: 35:05

Fuck, Lindsay. I mean, I didn't know anything about it. Fuck. I know. Oh now he was finally denied bail because you know, before he's made bail on pretty much everything he's been arrested for up until this point. So he was denied bail at this time, and after several delays, the trial began in 2020. What was happening in 2020?

SPEAKER_02: 35:30

All the COVID shit.

SPEAKER_00: 35:31

Yeah. We went through that. Now, by this time, Bob had had a shunt put into his brain. He was in a wheelchair and had also been diagnosed with bladder cancer. His health was declining. And you will see this in the documentary.

SPEAKER_02: 35:51

So is that where I seen like Bob with the fucking little mask? Mask, yes. Yep, yep, yep. And a clear mask. He was on trial. I didn't look much. I plugged a fucking little thing in our website and drinkaboutsomething.site, and I was like, I need to plug a little Bob in here.

SPEAKER_00: 36:07

So that is health deteriorating Bob on trial. He's in a wheelchair, he's in a mask. And then on October 14th of 2020, Bob was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for Susan's murder. So he finally got tried and convicted for Susan Berman's murder.

SPEAKER_02: 36:34

So he lived the fucking life for a while. Long time.

SPEAKER_00: 36:39

And I didn't even plug this before. I did in our recap. No, I did in season two, a little or season two, in uh episode two of this case, uh, or part two. Bob became friends, and you'll see the footage on the interview or on the documentary, excuse me. Um, Bob became friends with Susan's oldest son stepson, who she basically raised, like paid for his tuition. There is footage of them hanging out together, like, yeah. Yeah knowing that he fucking killed her.

SPEAKER_01: 37:12

So he had a little bit of guilt.

SPEAKER_00: 37:14

Yeah. And um good job, Landon.

SPEAKER_02: 37:18

I'm appreciate you fucking pointing that out. He did. That's some true crime. He wanted to make sure true crime figuratory. Figure outery. How do you say it? Uh he figured out some true crime shit and tied it together with human shit. Yeah. Yeah. You get it, bro. You get it.

SPEAKER_00: 37:36

Now, there had also been several murders that happened in Long Island that they also tried to connect to Bob because their killings have been similar to that of Morris Black. Dismemberments. But that is going to be another case for another day that we're going to talk about on that. And yet, it didn't end it up being Bob, it ended up being somebody else. But that's going to be another one. But I'm just saying, like, it's crazy how these a lot of this shit circles together.

SPEAKER_02: 38:09

It's a circle.

SPEAKER_00: 38:10

But there was no evidence that could tie Bob to those murders because it ended up being somebody else that we're going to talk about later on.

SPEAKER_02: 38:18

They had other people. Okay. Because I was fixing to get my full hat for that. And my hat is Jack Sparrow's fucking full-on.

SPEAKER_00: 38:24

But I I understand. Like, if you when you watch the documentary, you understand why they were like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_02: 38:31

And Lindsay, there's so much. You just keep fucking dumping into dumping because there's more dumping.

SPEAKER_00: 38:38

Well, we're about to wrap this up because on January 10th, 2022, Robert Allen Durst died from cardiac arrest at the age of 78.

SPEAKER_02: 38:52

This is the end. This is the end. Oh, Lindsay, I was fucking riding your wave.

SPEAKER_01: 38:58

So he lived a full fucking life.

SPEAKER_02: 38:59

Full fucking life. It was an aurora wave. I mean, I was just riding it, and I wanted to keep the wave going, but it's not a good wave. It's not a good one.

SPEAKER_00: 39:07

And he had been in the custody of California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Center and then died at the San Joaquin, I'm going to say, because it's spelled like Joaquin Phoenix's name. So I'm going to say San Joaquin. Yeah. Uh General Hospital in French Camp, California. Now, my side notes. Um like I said before, I did I did already plug this. The Jinx Part 2 does capture the years between the release of part one up until his death. And Kathy's family, his wife that went missing, that has never been found. Nothing, nothing of her has been found. They sued for wrongful death against his estate. And uh there's they were still in the pretrial phase as of August 2023. Five and no trial date has been set uh thus far. So we'll see. Uh we'll keep an eye on that. I've put that in my Google Alerts to see if any updates on that.

SPEAKER_02: 40:12

To see outside all together. Come on, do it right.

SPEAKER_00: 40:14

Now he's dead and gone, so we'll never get other than killed them all, of course. Uh we'll never get any other full confession from Bob on anything else. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 40:26

I just wanted to say, Lindsay, I love your fucking shirt.

SPEAKER_00: 40:29

Oh, thank you. I mean it's a sweater. I love it.

SPEAKER_02: 40:34

It's a cardigan.

SPEAKER_00: 40:36

It's a skeleton cardigan that we're gonna wear to the show that we're going to. I'm just like, we'll fill you in on next week.

SPEAKER_02: 40:42

Point away from your whole ass fucking story. But at the same time, Lindsay, we didn't come across three whole fucking episodes of this. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00: 40:51

Isn't it wild? It is lazy. And like we talked about before, um, this initially, and that's one reason why I wanted to watch the movie. All good things. Uh, I had thought about starting with this series. But since we did start the podcast in October, when he we finally got our shit together and got the equipment, it was in October, and we were like, it's satanic panic time. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_02: 41:27

It's been a while, anyhow. What an adventure.

SPEAKER_00: 41:32

And now you and Landon's homework tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02: 41:34

Y'all gotta watch some big some Bobbert in his cross-dressing mute desk.

SPEAKER_00: 41:41

And then when y'all hear his voice, you will know why. He would have never disguised that shit. He's like, hey. No, it's it's different, it's very New York, and he says like this is Bob Durst, and okay, bye-bye. And you know, that's how he kind of signs off a phone call. It's it's you'll you'll just have to watch it and then report back to me. That sounds weird. So we have homework. Brandon and I. Because I've watched it, I can't watch it no more. But it's on y'all. I really want y'all to watch that documentary. I really want our listeners who may not have who may not have watched it, uh, get on that shit. Andrew Gerecki is a really good uh director, man. Like he's he's good.

SPEAKER_02: 42:31

He brought out the whole fucking end of a fucking tragedy.

SPEAKER_00: 42:35

He really was part of a goddamn goddamn multi-decade uh case, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:45

So you could say he was better than the police.

SPEAKER_00: 42:48

A little bit, and you know what's crazy?

SPEAKER_01: 42:50

That's that's where it comes out sometimes, Landon.

SPEAKER_02: 42:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 42:53

A spoiler, um, so they do reveal this information to the woman who was who had reopened the Kathy McCormick case. They show her this evidence that Andrew Jreski Jerecki just happened upon because of Susan's stepson. And he's a hero. Yeah. And she's like, son of a bitch. Yeah. She is so fucking mad.

SPEAKER_02: 43:19

All he was doing is trying to take a piss. Right. And he fucked himself out of everything. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00: 43:25

All right. Really quick before we move on to our palette cleanser, which is the band that Jesse's gonna plug. Um, I had actually originally uh wrote down yesterday what made me feel old. Uh earlier I went off the dome, but this one I wrote down and I forgot that I wrote it down. So um Landon and I yesterday had like a little movie afternoon and after I finished cleaning the house. I have a little routine on Fridays. And um after I was done, I made my first drink for the day. And we were watching Night at the Roxberry. Yes. And I never noticed this in the past. Like, all how many times have we watched Night at the Roxberry? Night of the Roxberry. Hello. So at the end of Night of the Roxberry, when um the little short one, I can't remember his name right now, when he meets his credit card operator at the end, and then she's got a friend with her at the club at the outside, where the outside is the inside and blah blah blah. Um the little credit card operator's friend is Jennifer Coolidge, who plays Stifler's mom in American Pie. So Night of the Roxbury came out in 1998, okay? And then American Pie came out in 1999, and then she was also in Legally Blonde. Remember, she was Elle's best friend, her little nail tech. Yeah. Um, and Legally Blonde came out in 2000, and now she's in this show called The White Lotus as a much older cougar-esque type woman. And American Pie, whereas where she was already a cougar then, but she's Cougar. Stifler's mom. Got it going on. But so that yesterday I wrote notes about that and forgot all about it until I just looked at them.

SPEAKER_02: 45:24

Oh that you watched all American Pie stuff yet? I mean, that's needed.

SPEAKER_00: 45:30

That's the series we need to go through. There's three of them, right?

SPEAKER_02: 45:34

You're allowed to now.

SPEAKER_00: 45:35

Absolutely, because all those kids were in high school.

SPEAKER_02: 45:36

I don't know if I want to watch American Pie with him, though. I just I feel like I was fucking landing. But those are great movies. American Pie, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 45:45

They're iconic. Oh, yeah, all that. Iconic. And Jennifer Coolidge, who was at the end of Night of the Roxberry, who ended up walking up with American Pie, Road Trip, watch all the Oh god, Road Trip.

SPEAKER_02: 45:57

What's the God? Time Green. Oh, Lindsay. I want to play music though.

SPEAKER_00: 46:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 46:04

I mean, I love it. I love it. And Landon, I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 46:08

What amazing band do you have for us to cleanse our palette of the Robert Durst? I'm sick of fucking Robert Durst. That's why I'm like, y'all gotta watch this documentary on your own, but you gotta do it. You gotta do it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a must-watch, but I'm done. I wanna I'm done with the jinx.

SPEAKER_02: 46:24

I wanna play a great band for you guys. Mm-hmm. You need to look at your notes? The dot commies. Okay. And I want to play. I like that name. I know. I know. You're gonna love this shit. The dot commies has an amazing song, and I want to play and uh fucking dude. You need to check out the dot commies. Just I'm gonna stop here. But doing time by the dot commies, doesn't that fucking tie together? He's finally doing time, and we're gonna play that shit.

SPEAKER_03: 46:53

And then he died.

SPEAKER_02: 46:54

Woo! He died. Then he died. He died. Oh yeah. But Stifler's mom. Fuck, you know, stiffler's mom. She's so cool. She is fucking cool. Jennifer Coolidge is cool. She is the coolest. Yeah, the coolest cougar you've ever seen in your life. The dot comies, though. This song is called Doin'Tom. Check this shit out. Check out the band. Check out everything they've ever done. Oh my God, Lindsay. That was so good. Very light.

SPEAKER_01: 50:21

Sounded good.

SPEAKER_00: 50:22

Oh, I'm going to their website right now just to give a little background into them. They are from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 50:30

What do you think about it?

SPEAKER_00: 50:31

Which is where Bob Durst stole a sandwich from Wegman's. He stole a chicken salad sandwich and some band-aids and shit.

SPEAKER_02: 50:37

They sounded good. Yeah, he sounded real good, man. Holy shit. It was like a tie-in together for everything. I loved it. Holy fuck, dude. I love the dot commie.

SPEAKER_00: 50:48

And so they're on their website or per their website, uh, their debut album called OM Fug will be out later this year on vinyl CD Cassette, Real to Real, and on all streaming platforms. Uh, you can listen to some of their singles on Bandcamp, Spotify title, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and ETC. And I have already followed them on Spotify.

SPEAKER_02: 51:15

Yeah, check out the.commies. And they're on Instagram. Love some punk, dude. I love some punk. This is so fucking good. Landon and I have been all the way deep into punk, too, because me and him and at Rockville, we check out some punk bands and shit. I love. Yes, I love punk.

SPEAKER_00: 51:31

Yeah, Landon has been our Rockville trooper for many years. He started going at the age of 11.

SPEAKER_01: 51:38

I don't remember the name of the band, but I remember the CD you gave me when I was playing on my Hot Wheels radio. Ballyhoo. The pineapple that had a pineapple in the side.

SPEAKER_02: 51:48

Ballyhoo.

SPEAKER_00: 51:48

Ballyhoo, not Bali. Ballyhoo.

SPEAKER_02: 51:50

If you love Ballyhoo, stay tuned. Yeah. I just wanted to say if you love Ballyhoo, stay tuned.

SPEAKER_00: 51:57

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 51:58

Yeah, it's Punkhoo. Reggae Punk Rock, fucking do stay tuned, Landon. And stay tuned, everybody.

SPEAKER_00: 52:05

And we discovered Ballyhoo at a um they're fucking Molly show.

SPEAKER_02: 52:12

Vlog and Molly show. And I just, I'm just giving you a little hint there. Stay tuned. So excited.

SPEAKER_00: 52:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 52:20

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 52:22

So that was the end of the jinx. Uh, we have three parts now. This is your first time listening. What we do here is uh I unload a true crime story onto Jesse, who has never not really been in the true crime world like I have for very many years.

SPEAKER_02: 52:41

I don't pay attention to it.

SPEAKER_00: 52:43

And uh we have some drinks, and then Jesse plugs a band at the end of our episode. That's our little palette cleanser.

SPEAKER_02: 52:50

Yeah, cheers, everybody.

SPEAKER_00: 52:51

From the true crime horrificness. And uh yeah, so we are on everything that you can listen to. We would really appreciate your rating and your commentary. Uh our website is drinkabout something.sight. We are on Instagram, drinkabout something. You can send us an email at drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. We are on YouTube if you type in Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y. And then we also have been doing some live feeds on TikTok under drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay.

SPEAKER_02: 53:26

Yeah, if you love it, share it and come on, follow us because Lindsay's got more shit and she's gonna put you in the plant with me. So much more. So much more. We got Robert Plant and we got Courtney LePlant. Yeah, if you know the things, you know the things. Thank you so much for being part of this landing.

SPEAKER_01: 53:44

You're welcome. Thank you guys for having me.

SPEAKER_02: 53:45

Hell yeah. Dude, it is fucking I'm enjoying the whole fucking journey. Three-parter of fuckery, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 53:53

And now you guys have homework. You got a documentary. Documentary to watch tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02: 53:58

It's a four-parter then. Fuck. It's yeah. I'm gonna bring the whole plant with me while I'm watching the fucking dock, dude. I'm gonna just uproot the plant, bring it over there, and I'm gonna watch TV.

SPEAKER_00: 54:09

And I wonder, there's one thing I want to tell you guys. Watch Bob's Durst's face while he talks.

SPEAKER_02: 54:15

I can see that that's a thing, right? It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 54:19

It's crazy. It's crying.

SPEAKER_02: 54:20

Ah okay.

SPEAKER_00: 54:22

But we're gonna sign off because we got a show to go to. We got to drive to Tallahassee.

SPEAKER_02: 54:27

We're gonna rock out land's gonna be our D. D D what is it? D D D D. Not our D. Oh well, D D frecking Stranger Things. D.

SPEAKER_00: 54:37

By the way, we watched that documentary and cried all over again. You cried the whole time on my God.

SPEAKER_02: 54:44

You know, because I think Eleven's still alive. It's just a DD game. The whole time it's a DD game.

SPEAKER_00: 54:49

Which is uh so the cop the documentary is on the making of season five. Yeah. And if you have any, if the internet has tried to influence you at all that it was rushed, I it was perfect. Implore you to watch this documentary because you can see that it wasn't.

SPEAKER_02: 55:10

I mean, you think it's just a DD game? You believe, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 55:14

I think that she is still alive as well because in the end, Mike put it together, and then um that's why he told that story at the end of the show to everybody. Yes, and he didn't want to say it was for sure because he didn't want to get everybody's hopes open for everybody to look at him or look for her because that was the end of the show, they didn't have any more episodes. Um, yeah, I thought that she's still alive because when you seen at the end when the sirens were blaring, there was like 30 of them, like or I don't know how many there was, but there was a lot of them. And then in one scene, there was only one of them when they were in the upside down, and she was going crazy, she couldn't even stand. But when she was in that portal, she was standing, she didn't even have blood running down her nose, nothing like that. She was good, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 55:58

She was good landing, he's putting his 120% of everything. He loves it to death. But finish up.

SPEAKER_01: 56:06

But yeah, that that's what and then Mike realized it too when he was at their graduation. He uh heard the sounds of the speakers and he remembered that that's her cryptonite, and she wasn't even. Why wasn't she yeah, why wasn't she flinching over it or nothing? And how did she uh use her powers in the when they were met up and she said goodbye and all that? How did she use her powers? Deep dive. I love it. That's why he knew that she was alive too, and he told that story.

SPEAKER_00: 56:37

She's in her own version of an upside down.

SPEAKER_02: 56:39

I love it, Landon. I love it. What about all the glasses in the background? Like you've seen all the glasses that are exactly the same.

SPEAKER_01: 56:45

Oh, yeah, how everybody had their hands together like Vecna 2.

SPEAKER_02: 56:50

Yeah. Anyhow, we're gonna leave you with all that stuff. Landon, thank you so much. Lindsay, thank you so much. Holy shit. Three parter. I can't wait for the next one. And I'm ready. Yeah. We're gonna do a show.

SPEAKER_00: 57:05

Whole new topics next week.

SPEAKER_02: 57:07

So ready. Love you.