SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Hey Jesse.

SPEAKER_02: 0:04

This is good. Hey Lindsay. Hey, what's up?

SPEAKER_00: 0:08

Hey, what are you having a drink there?

SPEAKER_02: 0:10

Oh, is it Harvey Wallbanger?

SPEAKER_00: 0:12

Harvey Wallbanger.

SPEAKER_02: 0:13

So I fucking love it. That was on the chart back there.

SPEAKER_00: 0:15

So Landon got us this from like a flea market, right?

SPEAKER_01: 0:20

No, I got it from uh Ollie's.

SPEAKER_00: 0:22

Ollie's. Okay. And so we decided we were going to uh make a drink from this, and we had all the stuff for a Harvey. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02: 0:31

You gotta do this. I'm scared.

SPEAKER_00: 0:32

For a Harvey wall banger. I'm scared right here. Which is so it's I don't know if it's pronounced Galliano or a Guyano. I don't know if the two L's are a Y. Uh but we couldn't find that. So I looked up a substitute and it said you could look up, you could use uh Amaretta.

SPEAKER_02: 0:50

Yeah. So we use it was very, it's very good, dude. Do a Harvey Wallbanger. Cheers, everybody. Fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 0:58

So I'll leave that there.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01

Oh shit. So I made us one with vodka, amaretta, um, tropicana simply orange, orange juice, and uh some cherry juice. And I threw a couple of cherries in there for garnish and a couple of ice cubes.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17

It's good. Very good. I have it all over me because it's spilled.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21

Barbie Wallhanger. Holy shit. It's really good.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24

Yes. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26

Very tasty.

SPEAKER_02: 1:27

Uh proved by the Gen Z.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30

So hi and welcome to uh where it's Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day. Now this won't be to you until Wednesday, the whatever it's. Um but uh so what's Wednesday, like the 18th?

SPEAKER_02: 1:44

I don't know, but look at my shirt.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47

You bought me this. I love it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:50

This is fucking badass. I'm gonna wear it at Rockville. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52

Yes. So he wanted to do a lot of pink themed outfits for Rockville. So I got him uh one shirt that you already wore on here, which was a it's a pink shirt with a black, like shiny like disco ball like a skeleton. And then so this is turn around. This is a skull, but it's all flamingo.

SPEAKER_02: 2:14

Florida's fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 2:15

So it's Florida as fuck.

SPEAKER_02: 2:16

Coming at you, Florida as fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 2:18

And Rockville is in Daytona, Florida. And uh I am wearing a love sweatshirt. Which is the saying that Jojo has, and I was like, I didn't know how many of you uh order or have ordered from Sheen, but sometimes you accidentally click the two times, sometimes three. Like I accidentally just ordered three pairs of the same fishnets, but whatever. I'm gonna wear them.

SPEAKER_02: 2:46

I'm gonna wear two of them.

SPEAKER_00: 2:47

Yeah, Jesse's gonna borrow some. I'm gonna make him a uh I'm gonna make you an undershirt out of one. Really? Show you how to do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 2:53

So uh to wear under your skull pink shirt that I bought you. Underwear. Yes. It's gonna be like a I'll I'll show you. I'll show you. We'll take a picture. So this shirt that I've got on for our uh visual uh listener or visual subscribers. Yeah, the the peeps that are the peeps. Peeps that are watching us visually. Um, this is a love sweatshirt that my bestie Jojo, who has been a guest on our pod a few times, she got two of these on accident and gave me one. So I'm wearing it for Valentine's Day. I love it. Audio listeners, a very pink sweatshirt with uh love in black everywhere. And it's got some rips, some distresses. Very cute, very comfy. Oh my god. Very cute.

SPEAKER_02: 3:45

No, when I seen Jojo show up, there's like a Christmas party or something she had it on. I was like, I love that. And you you're like, I have that too.

SPEAKER_00: 3:52

I have it too. I love it matching.

SPEAKER_02: 3:55

I want to wear it. Yeah, leave me alone. Leave me alone, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 3:58

So, by the way, this is Drunk About Something Raw. Yes, an unedited recap. Hello. Um, today we're gonna be recapping the Rosewood Basser.

SPEAKER_02: 4:10

Yeah, goodness gracious, Lindsay. That was fucking bad, dude. I just historically just horrific, historic.

SPEAKER_00: 4:22

Well, JoJo did join us on that recording, and uh, she stayed over and we watched the movie. We had popcorn and sweet treats, and we watched the movie.

SPEAKER_01: 4:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 4:32

Uh Landon got more educated, and um, even though him and Jojo both like went to sleep on us.

SPEAKER_02: 4:39

Yeah, they harveed wallbangered the fuck out and they crashed out. This is good.

SPEAKER_00: 4:45

It was a very long movie.

SPEAKER_02: 4:47

Rosewood was, I mean, it was really accurate though. I I feel like you need to watch Rosewood. You know, check out our podcast, of course, on the Rosewood Massacre, and we're gonna call it that forevermore.

SPEAKER_00: 4:58

Ours is a little more accurate than the movie because Hollywood.

SPEAKER_02: 5:00

Yeah, but the movie will really bring in the grasp of all the events and things, and I I get it, I get it.

SPEAKER_00: 5:08

It was it was a good portrayal of the portrayal, yes, and Don Chino, Ving Rams, uh, John Voigt, you know, big name actors are in that movie, and it's from 1997. So even though that feels like a very long time ago, almost 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_02: 5:26

Shh, quiet now, Lindsay. Quiet.

SPEAKER_00: 5:28

It's very good.

SPEAKER_02: 5:28

I'm glad they're sharing it, and I'm glad we're sharing it. I'm glad that you're sharing it because I'm just following you. I'm just over here walking behind the path that you fucking make.

SPEAKER_00: 5:38

But you brought you brought this to my world, this story.

SPEAKER_02: 5:41

But I get it, but still, you're paving it, Lindsay. I might, I might, I might make the asphalt.

SPEAKER_00: 5:46

This is really good.

SPEAKER_02: 5:48

I know it is so good. It's gonna get us fucking good. But you I might make the asphalt, but you pave the road, baby.

SPEAKER_00: 5:55

So let's start the recap. Okay. So in 1923, it was New Year's Day. Um James Taylor, not the singer, and his wife were at home. James Taylor had to go out to work that morning. And uh Mamie, not Mamie, what the fuck? I don't have my notes today. Mrs. Taylor. Um, hold on. So James goes to work, it's still dark, and then his wife is at home, and when it's still dark, neighbors here. That's yes, that's today's notes. Yeah, Landon's Landon's our assistant. Landon's our assistant. I don't know what happened to the notes. I usually put them all in one pile.

SPEAKER_02: 6:45

You were looking for them, yeah. But Rosewood has to be a little bit more than a lot of things. Let's go off the dome. Let's explain.

SPEAKER_00: 6:48

I'm going off the dome because I do know this story front to back. Yeah. So names may be wrong. Go back and listen to her episode for the full effect. Yeah. Okay, so Mrs. Taylor, she gets assaulted, and neighbors hear screams. Neighbors come over, and Mrs. Taylor wrongfully uh accuses a black man of at first, she just said came in and assaulted her.

SPEAKER_02: 7:18

Then the more attention she got, the rape and all that come in, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:22

She said that she was raped and robbed. Now, her laundress, Sarah Carrier, who lived in the neighboring town of Rosewood. So they're in Sumner. The Taylors are in Sumner, which uh is I forgot the backstory really quick. So backstory uh Rosewood originally was a thriving predominantly white community because of its Rosewood cedar trees.

SPEAKER_02: 7:52

And they cut them all down and then had to relocate, and they called that next town over was Sumner.

SPEAKER_00: 7:57

And Sumner had a sawmill which provided more jobs.

SPEAKER_02: 8:01

So that was the work around the area. People people knew woodworking and the communities around the area, that's that's what they got there. That was their employment. And the black community, they were thriving though in the Rosewood area, which was cut down by all the trees. There was nothing left there, but they had a communal type area, and they were thriving.

SPEAKER_00: 8:22

They had a turnstile mill and they had a they had they had a couple of industrial things as well. So this is sorry, I forgot my notes today.

SPEAKER_02: 8:30

Yeah, this is the woods between Bronson and Cedar Key. It's the woods. There's nothing between there but what woods.

SPEAKER_00: 8:37

And swamp.

SPEAKER_02: 8:38

And swamp. And at that time, they made a thriving community. They were building two-story houses. Nobody had two-story houses back then.

SPEAKER_00: 8:46

In Florida.

SPEAKER_02: 8:47

In Florida. No way. They had what they called shotgun houses where the door, the front door, and the back door kind of met. You let the breeze come through because it's hot as shit in Florida in the summer. And it was a single-story house, and you just that's the spot you kind of went to and slept, or whatever. But they had a thriving building economy and a thriving building community. It was communal. People were growing garden, they had gardens, and and the the workmanship was just amazing. They were not going to experience anything as far as the depression. They were going to be just a an amazing community. There was no reason why anybody fucked with all this, and it got all fucked up.

SPEAKER_00: 9:28

Right. So uh this rosewood had originally been predominantly white, but when they cut down all the cedar trees and the lumber industry went downhill because they cut down all the trees, uh, they went over to Sumner. So now Rosewood is predominantly black, but like Jesse said, thriving, they learned how to work it and they learned how to do their thing.

SPEAKER_02: 9:54

Yeah, and another another um neighboring community, my boss's wife was um part of the lineage that was the sheriff that was in the the the the other neighboring community. I forgot what community it was. He didn't have anything to do with it, but he was like part of like the awareness and and trying to bring light into the to the the state of Florida, but it all got shot down.

SPEAKER_00: 10:24

Sheriff Yondu?

SPEAKER_02: 10:25

Oh no, no, um, I forgot what I forgot what uh uh somewhere in Dixie County or some shit, right? But he actually was trying to stand up and for awareness and everything in in a good way, but it all got fucked up. Lindsay's gonna tell you about that fuckery.

SPEAKER_00: 10:40

Well, in the movie, um the actor that plays the sheriff is also the actor that plays Yondu in The Guardians of the Galaxy, uh, volume one and two. So that's what we call him Sheriff Yondu because that's all I could think of the whole movie was Yondu. That's Yondu. Anyways, so Mrs. Taylor has now proclaimed that she has been assaulted. Sarah Carrier and her granddaughter, who has come to work with her that day, they know that there has been a white man that's come in and hung out with Mrs. Taylor while Mr. Taylor goes to work. So they're like, no, that was not a black man that assaulted Mrs. Taylor, that was a white guy who has been coming in. Now they didn't share that because they were too scared to actually speak their mind in the white community. So they go back and tell the residents of Rosewood that. So this guy, his name was also James, his name was James Wright. So he runs out because he has literally beat the shit out of Mrs. Taylor. Is it was a lover's quarrel. And a different story got told within the white community that now a escape from the chain gang named Jesse Hunter is who they need to be looking for.

SPEAKER_02: 12:02

Which in the movie they played, they portrayed him as a World War II veteran, right? And he had a bunch of money. And he showed up at the town, he's like got a whole grip of money. The white body man. Oh, the the uh the no, the the guy that the drifter that was supposed to be like escapee from the chain gang or whatever, right?

SPEAKER_00: 12:20

I think so. I think that's correct.

SPEAKER_02: 12:21

Yeah, yeah. So so it's a little this and that, but at the same time, it's a lot of fucked up fuckery. I I feel like if there's a drifter from a chain gang that came through the town, he probably just got something supplies and left, you know?

SPEAKER_00: 12:35

Well, this man named Sam Carter, who was a blacksmith in the area, he had helped well let me backtrack a little bit. So a mob of white men uh formed. It was what did I say? It was about 400. I'm so sorry, once again, I my look my notes are lost. So it was I want to say it was about 400 men. Um, so this started on January 1st and it goes through until January. Did I say January begin with January 1st to January 7th.

SPEAKER_02: 13:06

First to the 7th. Do you think it was like part of like the Mason thing like they did in the movie? Like he's a Mason, right?

SPEAKER_00: 13:12

Well, there was a Masonic Lodge in Rosewood. And James Wright, who was the paramour, um, in the movie, is portrayed as a Mason, and then Sam Carter was also a Mason. So he helps this guy out, but then it all gets misconstrued as to Sam Carter helping out the escapee from the chain gang named Jesse Hunter.

SPEAKER_01: 13:38

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 13:40

So they first lynch Sam Carter to try to get answers out of him, and when he doesn't tell them what they want to hear, he gets shot. And this was basically the kickoff to the entire massacre of this beautiful, thriving black community in Rosewood, Florida.

SPEAKER_01: 14:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 14:03

So Sarah Carrier, she had her son's name was Sylvester, and Sylvester was just, I'm not sure what he was doing, but he was met with the mob, and the mob tells him to get the fuck out of town. Sylvester's like, absolutely not. And Sylvester was an excellent gunsman.

SPEAKER_02: 14:22

So he goes back to his mom's house, and he uh He tries to have a gathering like a community and strength and unity, and was like, Holy fuck, dude, this this whole town strength in numbers. Yeah, this whole town's fixing to be it invaded by a bunch of people that is a mob over one person that we don't even know. We don't even know this person, and they're looking for him, and we don't even know him, and they're just like, hey, let's get together in this house, and some horrific shit happens.

SPEAKER_00: 14:52

I mean it's like in history that I could find in in research is ever said anymore about Jesse Hunter.

SPEAKER_02: 14:59

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 15:00

And Jesse Hunter wasn't even an assailant in this case, he was just who was presumed to be the attacker of Mrs. Taylor.

SPEAKER_02: 15:10

Yeah, do you think like that in conspiracy theory did he really exist?

SPEAKER_00: 15:15

Fanny. I remembered her name. Fanny Taylor.

SPEAKER_02: 15:18

Do you remember like, okay, watching the movie and then seeing all this and then the real history and everything of all of it? You think that was just all fucking imagined? Like, did that guy even exist? Because he was a drifter that came through, right?

SPEAKER_00: 15:34

Well, I do believe that there was an actual escapey off the chain gang because that was a thing back in those days.

SPEAKER_02: 15:40

But was it really like actually documented? Like this is a real thing. We don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm full hat and I'm I'm gonna do a full hat on the on the in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_00: 15:48

Things we have things we have moved on too fast from.

SPEAKER_02: 15:52

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00: 15:53

So okay. So Sam Carter has now been killed. Sylvester has been told to get out of town, but he says no. He goes back to Rosewood and gathers about 15 to 20 people in Sarah Carrier's house to hide. But then the white mob gets word of this and they surround Sarah's house, and there's a standoff because, like I said, Sylvester is an excellent gunsman. He's not scared of shit. And then you've got this white mob outside that the Ku Klux Klan has now joined.

SPEAKER_02: 16:27

So there was a hundred members of from Gainesville or something. A hundred, yeah. It was a hundred.

SPEAKER_00: 16:32

A hundred members from Gainesville, or I'm sorry, they weren't from Gainesville, they were having a rally in Gainesville.

SPEAKER_02: 16:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_00: 16:39

Which was right down the road.

SPEAKER_02: 16:41

Yeah, that's new. I don't remember that part. Yeah. I didn't say that. Did you?

SPEAKER_00: 16:44

Oh yeah, I reviewed it yesterday or you know, the day it came out. I we always I always listen to us on Fridays, along with you guys, because I want to make sure we did a good job.

SPEAKER_02: 16:54

Did we do a good job?

SPEAKER_00: 16:54

We did do a good job.

SPEAKER_02: 16:55

So you need to watch it or listen to it, not watch it. Listen to it, watch it with your ears.

SPEAKER_00: 17:01

Watch our recaps, listen to the Friday episodes. Yes. So now, okay, so there's a standoff at the carrier house. Now, Sylvester, he's a badass. He does take down two of like the main dudes in this mob of racists. But unfortunately, him and Sarah were gunned down.

SPEAKER_01: 17:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 17:29

And when they first get there, they they shot the dog. Like leave the animals out of all of it. Number one. None of it's cool. None of it's cool, but leave the animals out of it first off. So then, you know, they start setting fire to residents and buildings, like landmark buildings, like churches and the post office and the Masonic Lodge. They start setting fire to those, and anybody that runs out for safety, get them, they shot them down.

SPEAKER_02: 18:04

Horrible. Horrible. Thriving as beautiful community. They're just destroying it. Firemut on ice.

SPEAKER_00: 18:12

No, no, no. I'm just like, I'm just thinking about how scared and horrified because these people have been thriving in peace for a long time.

SPEAKER_02: 18:24

Yeah, every time you mention a scenario, I'm thinking of the running. I don't know why, but everything's in black and white in my mind. But they're running out of the house. That's all we can picture. They're just fucking massacring people. For nothing. For nothing. Just there's another one. Fuck them.

SPEAKER_00: 18:46

Because a white woman was cheating on her husband and lied.

SPEAKER_02: 18:49

It was a lie. You know what I believe though? I believe that Jesse didn't exist, and he and whoever that was the sneaky link that was doing whatever with whatever was probably part of the mob. He was like hanging out and trying to use that as a fucking excuse.

SPEAKER_00: 19:02

No, well, uh the movie portrays, like we did say, and this is historically um talked about as well, that the person that Sam Carter helped was probably her uh Fanny Taylor's lover.

SPEAKER_02: 19:19

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 19:20

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02: 19:20

James Wright. The whole chain gang dude was just made up. That's what I'm saying. That's that's that's just what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. But that's just what I'm saying. The whole the whole drifter and everything was fucking made up. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. 6'7.

SPEAKER_00: 19:36

He's not mentioned any other time.

SPEAKER_02: 19:38

6'7.

SPEAKER_00: 19:38

So now basically, over the next few days, from like I said, from the first to the seventh, the entirety of Rosewood is just burned to the ground. Yeah. And residents that were not gunned down after fleeing from their home that was set aflame are hiding in the swamp. And it was an exceptionally cold winter that year. And non-Florida residents are just let me just say here, okay. So we do not know what winter is gonna bring to us. It can be mild to where it's like 40 degrees in the morning and 70 degrees in the afternoon. Or it could be 20 degrees the entire day.

SPEAKER_02: 20:27

Let me put this in this perspective. Perspective. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00: 20:31

Look at you. He's already slosh.

SPEAKER_02: 20:34

This is the deal. This is the deal. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00: 20:36

Do your thing.

SPEAKER_02: 20:37

I'm allowed to be Harvey and Wallbangered, but okay. The decimation of a thriving community. And these people are trying to run through a swamp and uh just a desolate area, you know? They're running for their lives, right? The weather in Florida, though, will go from 80 to 20 in January. And that's what it does. I have co-workers that are from up north, like near Canada in Montana, and they're they're just like, this Florida weather, bro, it's something different. And I'm like, Are you kidding me? Like, y'all are used to like negative 15 degrees, right? They're like, no. The difference between 80 yesterday and 20 tomorrow, that's the difference. So it's really insane. And it's always a wet, nasty fucking ass cold here in Florida. So when it hits, we're in North Florida. We're not talking about like Miami or south of Orlando. We're in North North Florida. North actually, this was like Northwest Florida. So they're getting like the Gulf Breeze and everything in that area, but which it makes it even colder because you're getting the ocean breeze. Yeah. So the difference between that is your body and your just everything is just not ready. You know, yesterday it was eighty degrees, and then the next day is like twenty degrees. So it just Hits different, and then you have to do track through a swamp and all that with women and children and people that are just running for their lives, you know. That really hits different. And in a you know, we're not comparing it to negative 20 by no means. God no. But people that are from that negative 20 area have come down here and been like, oh my God. I'm like, I can't, I don't understand it. I don't understand any conversation where they're like, I'm I'm talking to you, but you've been in negative 20 degrees, but you're saying that Florida's worse. I don't know why it hits like that.

SPEAKER_00: 22:34

I've never experienced negative degree weather, but I do have a regular who told me a couple of weeks ago, oh my God, I love this guy so much. He's so he's so adorable. Little old man, he's a vet, so sweet. Uh, we were talking about how, because it was gonna be 20 in the 20s the next day. So, you know, I was telling all of my guests to stay warm, stay safe, you know, because I have been at my restaurants long enough to where I have acquired over a hundred regulars, and most of them are senior citizens. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 23:10

That just means you're doing your your good job.

SPEAKER_00: 23:12

Yes, and they love me with my purple hair and my nose rings and my gauges. So, I mean, like I'm doing something right.

SPEAKER_01: 23:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:19

So uh this this particular regular, uh, he's so adorable. He wears um like suspenders and flannels and so cute. He was telling me that when he was in the service, he had he was because nobody really wanted to do it, and he was like, fuck it. He went to a mission in northern Canada where it was negative 72.

SPEAKER_02: 23:46

Negative. So that's like Arctic Circle.

SPEAKER_00: 23:49

That's goddamn Santa Claus weather, man. Like what the I can't even fathom that. My Florida ass resident brain cannot fathom that. The coldest weather I have ever experienced was when we went to Kentucky in January when Jesse's grandmother passed. Yeah, and it was 13. That's the coldest weather I've ever been in in my life.

SPEAKER_02: 24:15

Yeah, I think I remember it being like six at one time, like six degrees at one time.

SPEAKER_00: 24:19

Not in our city.

SPEAKER_02: 24:21

No, when we went to that trip to Kentucky, I remember it being like six. I was like, all right, we're fitting to go over this mountain, and I'm taking her through the hollers and the butcher hollers.

SPEAKER_00: 24:32

I'm eating your cherries. No, I wanted that. You fucking. I'll give you one of mine when I drink it.

SPEAKER_02: 24:36

Hurry up now. Oh shit. But um, yeah, that was really cool for us, though, because you you got to be part of uh an award ceremony that was really cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:45

Side side story, really quick. The way the reason we had to go to Kentucky was absolutely terrible. That was the passing of his grandmother. Even though they knew it was coming, just like with the passing of my grandmother. You never are really prepared when your loved one passes, even though you know it's coming. But, anyways, uh when we get up there, Jesse, of course, wants to show me, he wants to take me to Butcher Holler, where um Loretta Lynn lived. Like I saw her actual house. I love, I'm a metalhead through and through, but I fucking love Loretta Lynn. And he also took me to her brother's grocery store, correct? Yeah, yeah. Webb's Webb's grocery store. When we're there, that year, what year was that? 2014?

SPEAKER_02: 25:36

Don't do me like this, Lindsay. 14 or 15.

SPEAKER_00: 25:39

I want to say 14 because Silas is still a baby because I have a picture of you walking across the bridge where you got your head stuck in. Yeah, the danger. I have a picture of Jesse walking across the bridge with Silas over his shoulder, and Silas has the cutest smile on his face, and he's not very old.

SPEAKER_02: 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:56

No, it's 2015 because he was over a year old. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 25:59

Yeah, yeah. He's goof boom.

SPEAKER_00: 26:01

Because he was born the end of 2013. So it was 2015. I'm literally beginning of 2015.

SPEAKER_02: 26:07

Walking across the bridge where I stuck my head over and watched the spillway of the dam and got my head stuck one time. Drama. So we trauma dump.

SPEAKER_00: 26:15

We go into webs, and that very weekend, Loretta Lynn is being recognized for what was it like a lifetime achievement type award or something?

SPEAKER_02: 26:26

Yeah, it was something like that. Like her dress is there, like the big sparkle.

SPEAKER_00: 26:30

And Crystal Gale, her sister.

SPEAKER_02: 26:32

It's all there in the web store.

SPEAKER_00: 26:35

A reporter interviews me, which I was not prepared for. I was about what did you say, about 60 pounds heavier than I am right now because I was still kind of postpartum. It took a lot. When you have a baby in your 30s, and then you have a um a tubal afterwards, losing that weight, that baby weight is not easy. But I, anyways, none of that matters.

SPEAKER_02: 26:57

You were fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 26:59

So he I was interviewed about uh Loretta Lynn, who I have been passionately obsessed with pretty much since my teenage years, after I watched the coal miner's daughter for the first time. And that was really I was I was on TV uh for the first time. Well, no, no, no, not the first time. Uh, but I was on the news for the first cool. Yeah, I had been on TV before. I was up I was in a think sharp competition when I was in fifth grade.

SPEAKER_02: 27:30

They jerked her up because she was just looking so beautiful in that web store. And her brother, like Loretta's brother, is like hanging out in the store telling us a couple things, and all of a sudden, boom, there's a whole news report thing. And Lindsay's like, Yeah, I've always loved Marilla my whole life. You know, it's like so cute.

SPEAKER_00: 27:46

And I watched the interview and I was like, oh my god, it actually sounds professional. Like I knew what if I was fucking talking about.

SPEAKER_02: 27:52

Pay no attention to us, though, on this. We're not nowhere near professional. Look at our sign crooked behind us. But anyhow, you did fucking you really killed it. Pay no attention, pay no attention. She's got it.

SPEAKER_00: 28:03

Okay, I got it.

SPEAKER_02: 28:04

Uh the letter OCD kick in rather. But no, she killed it. Like, it was an amazing trip at the same time. It was horrific. I had to do what I needed to do for my grandma. So I'm like, all right, this might be the only time we ever go up here, which I I'm gonna do. No, we'll be back. We'll we'll be back. Northeastern, northeastern Kentucky, and uh I took her over Two Mile Hill, and we went by Meade Memorial School.

SPEAKER_00: 28:29

First of all, let's let's let's stop at Two Mile Hill and then we'll go to Mead. Two Mile Hill was the scariest thing I have ever experienced in my life. So you're it's not a hill. I don't want to hold it. It's a goddamn mountain with a cliff on the side, and there's no guardrail. And I was crying, and we had because we had a baby in the back seat. So my oldest and my youngest were on that trip with us. Um, my two middle ones had stayed with their grandparents, and because we didn't want to put all of the kids on them, so we figured the oldest and the youngest would be the easiest to take care of and to process this event because the oldest could understand death, and the youngest didn't know what the fuck was going on. So I was crying and I was like, Jesse, we have a baby in here. Like I was full-fledged, I'm just handling anxiety ridden.

SPEAKER_02: 29:31

It's what I remember. So I'm just like, and then also all the curves and when he took me to the holler, I did not understand what a holler was what a holler was. And holler goes back old English, you know. It's you know, you're allowed to say all those crazy ass appellation words and the slangs where it makes you feel ignorant, but that's old English. Let that be a thing. Let you're allowed to say holler and what and all the appellation. You know, I'm saying, like, you know, the whole appellation language really goes back to old English. It really does.

SPEAKER_00: 30:07

So if you know Loretta Lynn, who the fuck that is, and you've watched the coal miner's daughter, you'll understand you'll you'll have seen her actual house on that movie. I saw her actual house in real life. And the holler is a very, very, very uh narrow. What how describe what a holler is? It's a winding cutout between two the hills.

SPEAKER_02: 30:30

Not two, but all of them.

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So we're in what we called the man van. It was a Dodge journey, and that was what they called the man van back in its day. And when he was backing up, I thought for sure that we were going to just back up into our death.

SPEAKER_02: 30:45

And die.

SPEAKER_00: 30:46

And that's not the first time that that will happen while we are in Kentucky, but we'll talk about the second time another day.

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Nobody makes me die my own death, except for me.

SPEAKER_00: 30:57

Anyway, we made it out of the holler, we made it out of Paintsville. We uh gave our respects to Jesse's grandmother, and I wish I had been able to meet her while she was alive. I did enjoy my time in Paintsville, Kentucky. And then later on, when we went to Louisville, that's a whole different world. It's crazy. Same state, completely different culture.

SPEAKER_02: 31:21

Yeah, once you get on past the mountains, it's a different thing.

SPEAKER_00: 31:24

Paintsville is very, if you are from Florida, so okay, I'm gonna compare it to okay, so Paintsville is like Lulu, Florida, and then Louisville is like Miami, Jacksonville, Orlando-ish. It's a lot more cultured in perspective. In perspective, yes, yeah, I get it. It's still different though from any of that that I mentioned.

SPEAKER_02: 31:50

Five minutes out of Louisville, though, you got Bourbon World, so I love that.

SPEAKER_00: 31:54

Well, there's Bourbon World in Louisville as well.

SPEAKER_02: 31:56

Yeah. I mean, yeah, Elizabeth Town is the most beautiful place I've ever been, and I'm gonna go back and live there forever.

SPEAKER_00: 32:02

Yeah, that's our retirement area.

SPEAKER_02: 32:04

I love Elizabethtown.

SPEAKER_00: 32:05

We're gonna get a boathouse and live in Elizabethtown.

SPEAKER_02: 32:08

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 32:09

Can we do that?

SPEAKER_02: 32:10

Well, a little bit further south. Like, I really want, I would love to live um on um like Kentucky Lake area or anything like that. I would love to live in it just yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that later, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 32:25

And one of my favorite co-workers uh who is now retired from the restaurant that I work at, uh, we are a corporate, so it retirement is a huge possibility with the work that we do. Don't shit on serving and tip your servers. If you live in America, if you visit America, tip your servers. Period.

SPEAKER_02: 32:44

Yeah, and if you're from Europe, tipping is rude.

SPEAKER_00: 32:47

No, it's not. Well, it's not in America. No, I'm saying if you're come over here and tip Canadians, Europeans, all over the world, in America, tip 20% if you have good service.

SPEAKER_02: 32:58

Why are you giving me this extra money? It's already put in the bill.

SPEAKER_00: 33:01

So, anyways, um basically, uh we're gonna go back to Rosewood.

SPEAKER_02: 33:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 33:09

So now the town has been burned to the ground. Sarah Carrier and Sylvester Carrier have been murdered, and they have now been buried. So um Sylvester's brother, I can't remember his name off the top of my head because, like I said, my notes have been displaced. I don't understand where they went. But he loaded so uh uh the uh two Jewish brothers that owned the train in the area, they came through and they rescued women and children. Men weren't allowed because they were still scared of the white men angry mob, and I can't blame them, they were dangerous. So they rescued the women and children, and the other carrier's son went back into town to see what he could do to help after he loaded his family on this train, and he was shot and killed, or first he was told to bury his own grave beside his mother and brother, and then he was shot and killed and buried right beside them. And then Hayward Carrier came back from a hunting trip to find his entire existence gone, his family, his town, destroyed, everything gone, and he was never the same again. He basically went into insane, he went into himself, yeah, and he never recovered until his death. Like he went completely insane, which is also completely understandable.

unknown: 34:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 34:41

I would probably do the same.

SPEAKER_02: 34:42

And as we talked about the whole story after all of this conspired and all the bullshit, they didn't even get any recognition for like 70 years.

SPEAKER_00: 34:51

70 years of silence until a author from the Tampa Tribune is that correct? Help me remember.

SPEAKER_02: 35:01

Oh God, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 35:02

It was either Tampa or St. Pete in the same area came to Cedar Key and he wanted to know why a predominantly white area at that time, this was the 80s, 82, uh, was now or it was in the 80s it was predominantly white, and he knew from historical artifacts and and and research that it used to be predominantly black. And a local in Cedar Key talked to him about the massacre. And then he did more research, and he got it put out there into the public, and then the Seminole tribe also spread the word about this after he published his. And it was like it was voted on for their uh reparations, for you know, whatever to pay them out money for what they went through for not being protected by the government, which they should have been protected by. Um, it was a very meager amount. And unfortunately, uh they were voted out 70 or 40. It was like 40, 70, yes, 40 no. And so 40 people out of this committee said no, they don't deserve it. And then the Klan also came out of the woodwork and were like, no, they don't deserve these reparations. So they got a measly, so all the descendants, the surviving members and the descendants got a total of 1.5 million. The original negotiated amount was 7 million. That was it went down to 1.5 million, which was to be dispersed among survivors, their uh proven descendants, and then there was a scholarship. Which was nothing there's just nothing, nothing was enough.

SPEAKER_02: 37:06

They took their inheritance and their ancestral land all the way and burned it completely to the ground and said, Y'all just move on somewhere else and just forget about it.

SPEAKER_00: 37:17

They brought them back down after they had built back up.

SPEAKER_02: 37:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:21

After they uh uh rose arose from slavery.

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Rosewood was was just a thriving community that was.

SPEAKER_00: 37:29

Because a lot of slaves, when they were freed from their owners, masters, whatever you want to call them, um they they really didn't have a leg to stand on. So all these people came up from nothing and made a thriving community, which I do mention in the episode was more prosperous than the white community, neighboring community, which was Sumner. They were doing better.

SPEAKER_02: 37:58

They were doing better.

SPEAKER_00: 37:59

So many communities they and they burn it to the ground.

SPEAKER_02: 38:02

There's there's more than one community, so you're gonna have to follow along and see us this Friday, also, because there is more than one community.

SPEAKER_00: 38:10

This coming Friday, we're gonna talk about another one that happened a couple of years before this happened.

SPEAKER_02: 38:15

And Lindsay likes to destroy me a whole lot. And thank you for destroying me and for this, and thank you for the recap, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 38:21

I'm gonna go cook some steaks because Yeah, so uh happy Valentine's Day, post-Valentine's Day. We hope you had an amazing one. We're about to cook some steak and potatoes and salad and green beans and mushrooms and garlic, and we're about to eat like lovers and mothers and fathers.

SPEAKER_02: 38:40

Yeah, we're lovers, we're fathers, and we're lovers, and we're mothers. I don't know how to say it all.

SPEAKER_00: 38:46

Give me a high five.

SPEAKER_02: 38:49

Thank you, guys, and uh follow along. Uh, we got so much to go. I mean, we're literally fixing to go and grill out. I think I might do a live for that too. So follow the live.

SPEAKER_00: 39:00

This coming Friday, we are wrapping up our uh Black History Month series for this year. I've already got plenty saved for next year. Oh, yeah. So keep following along. And then the following week, we're going to Germany. And it's not gonna be a good time. Let's go. But it's an insane story. Um don't eat prior to that one. I just want to say that.

SPEAKER_02: 39:26

No, don't nobody hushes your mouth like I hush your mouth. Like, I mean, you can't. You can't.

SPEAKER_00: 39:32

So just a little preview into that. Um, don't tell me this.

SPEAKER_02: 39:36

I don't want to know. Let me wrap this up. I already got my cable wrapped up.

SPEAKER_00: 39:42

Make sure you check out our full episode on the Rosewood Massacre. And then if you're in Florida, go go just trek there. Take a picture of it, share it, keep the awareness alive. Don't let history repeat itself. We're gonna say that insufferably forever.

SPEAKER_02: 40:00

Yeah, you can't go to uh Otter Creek and you can check out the actual train in that area on 19, and you can actually take on was it 24? Yes and go towards Cedar Key, and you can see the little plaque in the area, the actual area where it's at. Read the front and back and recognize that. Share it. We love you so much though, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00: 40:19

I wonder if you're if you're vacationing in Cedar Key, take a trip and just pay your respects.

SPEAKER_02: 40:25

Yeah, forevermore. Go out there and go fishing in Cedar Key. It's cool.

SPEAKER_00: 40:28

But we're gonna uh put I'm gonna talk about our plugs real quick. So our main website is drinkaboutsomething.sight. On Instagram, we are drinkabout something. On Gmail, if you want to send us an email with your stories, your thoughts, your concerns, your whatever, just send it, hit us up. Yeah, we are drinkabout something pod at gmail.com. What am I missing? Oh, TikTok live. We are drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay. What else? Hit us up on YouTube, dude. YouTube, Gen Z. Yeah, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y. That's our names together.

SPEAKER_02: 41:04

Gen Z. Not like Gen Z, like generations.

SPEAKER_00: 41:08

Not Generation Z, just Gen Z.

SPEAKER_02: 41:10

J E S like Jesse and Lindsay. You're gonna find us and uh share us, and we love you so much, though. I wanna go. So much. Yeah, Lindsay say the beautiful magical word that gets me over there grilling steaks. We love you. Bye.