Friday Drinks And Catching Up

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey Jesse! Hello Lindsay. Hello, Lindsay, and Hello Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

What's up? I'm just chilling. It's been a long day already today for both of us. Yeah, it has. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Yeah, I don't know the rest of it. I've I suck at that one. I don't know that one. Oh, yeah. I don't know that one. We don't know that one. And Yeah, you're thinking about it. Something I see you again.

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Yeah, when I see you again.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Yeah. That. That. All of that in that. Yeah. Um, hey, uh, how you doing over there? I mean, you're doing it. What are you drinking today? It's been a long ass day, really. It's it's one of those days where your ass is hanging to your like kneecaps, the backside, you know? And then you always want to go to the club and you want to go dancing, but your ass is like flapping down there. Like, it's just not cool. I don't know. I mean, it's kind of cool. I mean, you're living your best life, right? I mean, you know, it's just like I want to go to the club, but my ass is flapping back there.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

What you drinking today?

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Well, me? Uh, this is um something that was bestowed upon me called cut water. Yeah, it's like a 12% mango margarita. Nice. Because I'd be missing me some damn cruising, man. And margaritas and we're gonna pl we're gonna book one soon. We experienced a little bit of that with our little vacay that we just had. Yes. I I'm cracking it open right now. And what are you drinking of their Lindsay?

SPEAKER_01 1:28

I'm having a great vista bay. I have like a plethora of them uh in the outside fridge, so I'm gonna go through those tonight. And uh, I just recently had a pineapple one that I mixed with a tropical Celsius. Yeah, but I don't need any more Celsius right now. I'm gonna wait a little bit longer before I have some more of that, before I'm like one of these days.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

I'm just gonna buy something random and be like, here, try this.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Okay, well, you gotta make sure it's low carb, low sugar.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Okay, low carb, low sugar, try this. And it's gonna happen. All right, that way it's like untypical.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Well, roll that intro.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

I'm not ready.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Let's get this party started.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

I'm kind of ready for a nap, bro. But happy Friday, everybody. And uh, I just I just I'm hitting this button and I can't hit the wrong switch. Because we hit it twice when we did this. I mean, I just took my first sip of this. It's very good.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Okay.

What Made Us Feel Old

SPEAKER_00 2:47

So yeah, anybody that wants to try the mango margarita by Cutwater. I know Cutwater, that's crazy sounding. But cool. Love it. Try that shit, right? Yeah, it's very good. I'm gonna slurp on this while you destroy everything. And uh Lindsay, that's not a question. What's that? What made you feel old today or this week here in this in the last five minutes?

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Uh I you know I don't write mine down. I've had several of them this week.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

I love putting her first because she always feels old as fuck whenever I put her first. It's like, oh, you put me first? Wait a minute. I was gonna bounce off what you were saying.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

No, I wasn't at all. I usually come up with you, and you know yours triggers what mine was. Don't it though? So I like we're on the same wave so much. It's crazy. So we finally let our youngest granddaughter stay the night last night. Yeah. And then I was just sitting there thinking about it. And it's really hard to believe that uh we are grandparents of a six, a five, a four, and a one-year-old.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

That I mean, yeah, that's that's fully old.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

That's just still makes no sense to me. Like the words that come out of my mouth, it's just like, no, yeah, that's not possible.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

I think there's a point where what makes you feel old actually is just you're fucking old. Because we are old, man.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Oh, and it's the 30th anniversary of Scream. The original Scream.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

That part. I'm gonna bounce off of like two things. First one is uh talking to a new employee at work and saying that I've known a guy for like over 25 years. Oh, yeah, and been like, dude, you're not even 25. Yeah, and it's like, you know, I got a coworker at work that I've known for over 25 years, yeah. That made me feel old. Yeah. And then uh I wrote something down over here. Hang on, let me look at my little notey poos. My little newty poos. Oh, the Harry Potter thing. Yeah, noticing that uh Daniel Ratcliffe looks like he did at the very end of Harry Potter when they tried to age him up when he had his kid and he's putting him on like the train train on platform nine and three-quarters. He looks like that now.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Yeah, he's he's for real that age now.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

He's for real looking like that. Like that made me feel old because I I just revisited Harry Potter and I had to because you know the fact, you know, that dude's set for life.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

He can literally do anything he wants to do. And the fact that he played weird Al Yankovich in that movie was just everything to me. He did so good.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Yeah, and he's still in the scene. I love it. You know, that's like okay, we had our Leonardo DiCaprio, right? But he's like a second generation of the.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

I was gonna say he's Gen Z's Leonardo DiCaprio, but not as problematic.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Yeah, but we were like young enough, I mean, in the middle of millennials, to like really grasp onto that.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

I mean, well, we watched, I don't know if you watched Growing Pains, but I watched Leo grow up from that show. Yeah, to like, and you know, and it's the same thing with like Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling. Like, I like and and Jimmy Fallon, I latched onto them in their the very early career smooth face, just baby in shit that nobody else was listening or watching, you know what I mean? And then, or nobody that I really knew was watching like Growing Pains was not a popular show in my group of friends at school. Like, I loved it. I loved that show. Yeah, but like, and then the show that I first watched Ryan Reynolds on, I think it was called A Guy and a Girl and a Pizza Place, or two guys, a girl in a pizza place. And then I watched Ryan Gosling on a it was like a teenage soap opera where he was on this um that it was a school abroad that they went to school on a cruise ship. It was the dream.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Jimmy Fallon, too.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

I like started he was just such a baby face, young, young, doing his little thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Always laughing, and that's why I I have loved him since then because he was always laughing on SNL. He could not not break for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

I watched the thing where he was kind of making jokes after where Michael Jackson got a fake award or something one time, and he he made some comments like right after he got this. It was his birthday, Michael Jackson's birthday, and then Jimmy Fallon's like holding up the same thing. He's like, they gave us all one of these like awards, and he was like so young. And then, of course, uh like Chris Farley came on. Um, I guess it was SNL at the time, and like this whole award thing. It was really cute. It was just, you know, they weren't like actually making fun, but like Ricochet making fun, you know. That was like that was really cute, you know, it was like watching all that, and that makes me feel old because that was in the nineties.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

It was the nineties. I love that guy. I don't uh his name is not off on my head right now, but just look, lit type in on TikTok. It was the nineties, it was the nineties, and you'll find him. And he like auto-tunes stories from when he he's a gay man, he's a gay man, but he was like growing up in the church.

Griselda Blanco’s Violent Childhood

SPEAKER_00 8:16

In the church scene, he's like, yeah, and everybody forced him into like staying in it, and he stayed in it, and of course, he was just like and now he's like not religious at all, like most of us are that we're forced, yeah. Trauma dumping. Lindsay has stories, and I hopefully, hopefully, hoping with all of my goddamn heart that this one isn't so fucking bad.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

Well, we're gonna talk about something today, or we're gonna drink about something today that we haven't talked about like really at all. So today we are drinking about Griselda Blanco, and she was born February 15th, 1943. And I just thought about that too. That's uh that's Jupey's birthday. Our little grandbaby three, but the day No, not to yeah, uh, February 15th. We would really feel old then. And I'm gonna, okay, so a lot of this takes place in Colombia, and I am gonna struggle with pronunciations of names, so just bear with me, okay?

SPEAKER_00 9:12

And I will always put that you did a great job, no matter what you come up with. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Well, she was born in Cartagena, Colombia. Does that sound right?

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Uh Cortagena, I think. Wasn't there a movie where they had the Cortagena thing? What was that? Romancing the Stone. They called it Cortagena. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

I don't know why, because it's spelled with an A. I know. But anyway, so when she was three, her and her mother moved to Medien, which is the second largest city in Colombia. They did not live in a very good neighborhood. In fact, her neighborhood of Barrio Trinidad was considered the red light district, and Griselda was exposed to a lot of violence at a very, very young age. This was also like war, war-torn country. Like there was there was a lot going on at that time in Colombia. She became a pickpocket, I think around the age of five, and even formed a little gang at five and and and and on. And in 1954, when she was just 11 years old, her and her gang kidnapped a 10-year-old rich kid to get ransom money. The parents refused to pay this ransom because these were just kid gangsters. And I immediately went to the little kids on Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Yeah, I'm going to Little Rascals myself, but still. No, I went dark because this is about to get dark. Oh with the knives and shit.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Yeah, but Griselda shot this kid. So her first murder was at 11 years old.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

That's gang gang.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

And it is alleged that she turned to sex work in her teenage years, but she does deny this. She met her first husband in 1956 when she was just 13 years old, but they didn't marry until later on. And his name was uh Carlos Trujillo, and he had been a car washer and was also a forger and a smuggler. He would help immigrants with papers and documents to get into the US. At the age of 14, Griselda ran away from home to escape her stepfather's sexual abuse. And it said too that like her mom found out about it and blamed her.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

So it's like every bit of all the salad. Did you hear what I just said though? Yes, all at once. It's like the whole bowl of salad just got dropped on me right at one time.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

And there's not there that will never ever make any sense to me how a mother could blame a child for what her partner is doing to her child. Yeah, I don't, I that just it angers me, it saddens me, and I I could not, I I don't I could not fathom.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Well no, out there at the amount of selfishness of her mother is just trying to hang on and trying to make her shitty ass boyfriend or whatever that's hanging out a little bit more, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

No, yeah, you don't I mean, and I've heard about I mean I've I've literally listened cases where there's situations where the mother allowed it or would look the other way, and I just could never I never I will never understand that.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Well the same with I mean there is no understanding that yeah or they turn an eye or they just say that you know, you know, you were doing wrong in front of daddy or you know, whatever. Right. Yeah, we've we've experienced this, and I do not understand this. How could you not fight to the death for your own child? Right. No matter no matter what their you know mannerisms are or whatever that they are doing in life and trying to go through things, you try to give them the best. This is all fucked up to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

And if there's a relative in your family that you have to tell your daughter not to dress a certain way around, don't let that relative around. Fuck that relative. Yeah. Period. But, anyways, so later on when Carlos and Griselda did get married, they started a marijuana sales business along with uh the smuggling and the forging, and they went to New York City and lived in the Queens, Queensborough. They would have three sons named Dixon, Uber, and Oswaldo. Which Uber, like, I I should have deep dived into where Uber got their name because that's cool, right? When I get going, like you're you're gonna be like, huh. So, anyways, when Griselda was 26, she and Carlos divorced, but they remained business partners. But then, not too long after that, he was executed. Oh shit. Carlos had become friends with a man named Alberto Bravo, who was in the business of cocaine, and he would get it smuggled in and then refine it. Like he had little like underworld factories, underworld, underground, whatever you were. He was working the deal. Yes, he, you know, the drug underworld. He they were in it. Now Alberto would become Griselda's second husband, and she got right into the cocaine business along with him and started smuggling pure cocaine in herself from Bolivia. Some of that good, good. She, yeah, she became she was at first her own mule, but she'll get more later on. They go back to Medien and become quite a large cartel, and we're now sending mules into the U.S. starting in New York. They would send the mules to get the cash, and then of course the mules would bring the cash back, and the cycle would become very profitable.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

So they were like deep ingrained into this way of life.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Yeah, this is their way of life.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Yeah, they they didn't know anything else.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

War torn country, they come up through this. Yeah, and they come into America. Yeah. Now Griselda would mostly get female mules and use girdles and boussiers to hide the product. Her sons would also eventually get involved and would hide product and money in the lining of their shelled suitcases. Women and children were mostly overlooked by the airports and customs and things like that. So shit.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

They were packing the kids up with all the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Griselda and Alberto go back to Queens and open up a high-end lingerie shop. But they were also making more smuggling clothing. They hired underpaid tailors to make more girdles, bras, wigs, and even shoes for the mules with secret compartments to carry this product. This is a machine. A mush, it's a huge machine. Yeah. Holy shit. One corset was found abandoned with almost seven pounds.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

One corset.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

One corset was holding seven pounds in secret compartments.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Seven pounds of shit. Like, what was it? What kind of drugs was it? Cocaine. Cocaine.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

This whole story is about cocaine.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Eric Clafton had just chucked. Cocaine. Like, I mean, the whole time, but like I was just trying to figure out well, they started out with marijuana, but cocaine, I mean, this was the the quick up.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

And they were from Columbia, and that's the spot. One woman was caught having four and a half pounds in her underwear. That was a street value of$115,000 in 1972.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

You're fucking with me, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:00

With with, and that's like four times that much now, right? Four or five.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

How do you have that much just hidden in your drawers?

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Well, Griselda would tell them um to kind of because she would pick or she would have them wear things that would accentuate their curves. And so she would tell them to work that shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. So they put a little flavor on it, get through customs. So you better work. Work it now. And like this woman did not give her up. She was very loyal to Griselda because Griselda was taking very good care of her mules and their families. And she would start to be referred to as La Madrina or The Godmother. Oh fuck. I was thinking like Tony Montana or something. That movie wasn't out yet, but guess what was? Ooh. The Godfather. The Godfather. Yeah, the very the original. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Oh. You can't fuck with me, man.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

I got you, man. That's Scarface.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

I know. Well, Tony Montana. I'm still going back that way.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

I know. I mean, I mean, yeah, Al Pacino is also in the future.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

If you would have settled in Florida, this would be like we're gonna get there.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Oh. So by 1972, Griselda and Alberto had a pretty good pickup and drop-off system set up in Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx. They paid off associates of the Columbian Consulate, got their money laundered, and had foragers on payroll and paid off pretty much everyone at the Medine Airport. Like that airport was working for them.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

She's supplying New England with all the cocaine. The in yeah. The whole New England area, all the cocaine. She's got them.

Pablo Escobar Enters The Picture

SPEAKER_01 18:41

They were moving about a million dollars worth of product every six months. And this was, like I said, in 1972. By 1973, the DEA was formed, and they were on to Griselda and Alberto. And so they were forced to go back, they were forced to flee New York and go back to Median. Okay. So Griselda meets this carjacker when she gets back to Colombia named Pablo Escobar. No fucking way easy.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

This is deep.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

And Pablo was looking to get into the business. So Pablo set up a meeting with her through a smuggler friend, and they met at a cockfight. This was something that Griselda attended regularly. She liked the cockfight. Oh yeah. Yeah. This is baby Pablo at a cockfight. Baby Pablo. Now I guess she would say that she saw something in Pablo and she gave she gave him the money for his first large cocaine purchase. And he and his brother Roberto went into business with a few trusted associates. And everything was good for a while, but then something went awry. Pablo and Griselda were a little bit jealous of each other's success. And Pablo didn't really want to work for La Madrina anymore. Her being a woman boss didn't really sit well with him. He didn't like that. You're gonna take over the world, y'all. And Griselda didn't like the fact that Pablo was now making more money than her. So she set him up to be killed by a shootout, but it didn't work out. And they would try to assassinate each other many more times in the future. So Griselda, she would figure out a different way for executions by doing drive-bys on motorcycles. This would prevent the hitmen from getting caught in traffic, which had happened a couple of times before. So they're like trying to execute and then I mean they're in New York. I mean, I uh we've been there, we know how that's like trying to go over that George Washington bridge and you're just stuck there for 20 minutes. And they're like, shit. So now they're on motorcycles and they can just weave in and out of traffic.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

They can't get whacked in the Lincoln tunnel.

unknown 21:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

They can't do no, they can't do like men in black and just do like the whole fucking flip up with the fucking hit the red button thing.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Trying to get to Pablo again would become impossible. And Griselda and Alberto and her sons were basically driven out and had to move to Bogota in Colombia by a guy that Griselda helped get off the ground. So that pissed her off.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

And Griselda is now paranoid and feels like she can't trust anyone. And it's also said by that time she was like dabbling into the snow herself. She even had Alberto's brother killed thinking that he was working with Pablo.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

I think in this whole podcast, we're partaking in the wrong substance, Lindsay.

unknown 21:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Yeah, I feel like we need that white girl up in here. No, yeah, we're too old for that shit. Just bring it in, dude. Just bring it in. Don't make me feel old no more, Lindsay. I'll die.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

Griselda and Alberto weren't really that close to begin with. And as far as married couples go, they were more like a business, they were more like business associates. And now she had his brother killed. So he began to try and get away from her. He started skimming millions off of their shared profits and tucked the money away for himself. And then he was killed in a shootout outside of a nightclub in Bogota. Most people thought that this was Pablo's doing. And Griselda would even say that herself, but Griselda knew. This bitch knows everything. Like she knows everything. Now that two husbands are dead and rumored that she did it herself, she was now called the Black Widow. So she's got La Madrina and Black Widow under her belt. In 1976, Griselda met Dario. Oh God. Here we go. Sep Sepulvada. You fucking nailed it. Dario Sepulvada. Who was no Dario Sepulveda. That's how it is. It just clicked in my mind. Sepulveda.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

You still fucking nailed it.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

He was a bank robber and the brother of one of her most trusted hitmen. Griselda was a huge fan, like I said, of the Godfather movies. And when she had a son with Dario in 1978, she named him Michael Corleone Sepulveda.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Holy shit. Yeah. Corleone in there. Corleone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

That's why I was saying, like, it's all gonna come. Yeah. I gotta open drink number two.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

I'm still on one because I I'm a little sloshed already.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

After Michael was born, Griselda wanted to get out of Columbia. So she had one of her forgers make her some new documents and a new name so that she could come back to the U to the U.S. And this time she came to Miami.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Yummy, yummy, yummy.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Yes. Now Miami was pretty much the unofficial port of entry for Colombian Bam Bam. I always think of Ricky Bobby's dad.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

Columbia Bam Bam!

SPEAKER_01 24:19

I love that guy. I think his name is Gary Cole. Like everything that he's in, he he plays to the max. And she had already been doing quite a bit of business out there anyway. So, you know, she just kind of settled at home. But when she came to live there, she realized that her status wasn't really that big of a deal anymore next to her nemesis, Pablo Escobar.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yeah, he blew up.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Yeah, because Pablo was now international and she just really couldn't compete. So she started getting really dirty in her dealings, and she would amp up those killings, and she had them done publicly. With a capital with a capital, yes. She had people killed that owed her money and people that she owed money to. Oh God. So us re-watching uh Game of Thrones and now House of Dragons. Um, so the new season of Euphoria is coming up, and I I love that show, but Jesse hasn't watched it. But the commercial for the new season keeps coming up, and the one where it's like, hey Rue, you owe me money. Jesse is like, I'm over the shit. But now he says it all the time.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Yeah, but I'll even say it for that Poblano shit that's going on. I don't care. I don't know. Portobello. Portobello, Poblano, whatever. I say it for every damn ad that keeps coming up for any show. Like, it'll be like something like crazy. There's a whole lot of Batman shit that keeps popping up.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

And in the middle of that, I'm like, Oh, the new um, the Lego Batman movie. Uh, not we thought it was a movie, but it's a game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Yeah, it fires up, and I'm like, you owe me money.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

And all that really pisses me off because I had HBO Max ad-free with ATT for years. And then I add two lines to my plan and they took away my free HBO.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Does that make you feel old? Like not having ads. You remember not having ads again? Like, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Yeah, we haven't had ads in years. We got rid of cable to pay for all these streaming apps, and now they're all back.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Yeah, we were paying for it, so we wouldn't have the fucking ads, and now we got the fucking ads, dude. I feel like a boomer now. Like I'm pissing off.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

I mean, so all of my apps, all of our streaming apps have gone up two or three dollars, and then they want you to pay two or three dollars more. Yeah, because every one of them is popping up right now, and they're all like, you owe me money. Okay, the famous Deland Mall massacre in 1975 was orchestrated by Griselda, and she took out a drug lord named Herman Jimenez Panesio. Yeah, you fucking nailed it, but I wanted to know is that Deland, Florida? Daydeland. Dade Land. Oh Miami Dade.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Miami Dade Land.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Did I say that wrong? Daydeland mall massacre, excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

So Miami Dade Land Mall Massacre. Massacre.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

So we're finna we're finna find out about a fucking mall massacre. Well, I'm I'm telling you about it right now. That's what we're finna find out right fucking now. Why are you telling me about it right now?

SPEAKER_01 27:33

You're gonna make me repeat. Okay, so the drug lord Herman Jimenez, Panacio, and his bodyguard, Juan Carlos Hernandez, they were taken out in front of a liquor store at this mall. Okay. Now Griselda owed Herman money for 40 kilos of cocaine and just didn't want to pay him. So she just had him publicly executed. You fuck around and find out. And also it was said that her hitman Paco, uh, his wife was cheating on him with this guy. I don't want to say his name again because Herman. Herman. Yeah. And when their bodies after this shootout were described as Swiss cheese.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Fucking Swiss cheese, Lindsay. Oh my god. They're just like blowing people away and doing whatever the fuck they want. That's a lot of holes. Oh, now I'm picturing all this coming down, and it's just you can uh I think that you can see footage of this.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

I did not look it up and I don't know why, but I heard through one resource that you could see video footage of this.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Just blasting right there in the fucking parking lot at the liquor store. Just fuck it.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Now the hitmen, they were driving a happy time party supply van, which was absolutely a fake business. Like it had a phone number on it and everything, but you couldn't reach nobody at that number. Happy time. It was just so terrible.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Like a donkey would come out wearing like a birthday hat. Oh, like one of those cone hats and shit, and blow in one of those, like a little thing that and with a pinata on its own. Yeah. Yeah. You can ride this bastard for five dollars.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

This is in historically defined as uh the start of the Miami drug war. And the drug lords were referred to as cocaine cowboys.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

See, and they like they they hung on to like I watched Blow. They hung on to all the dude stuff. You know, they don't hang on to some shit like this. This is cool shit to me. I mean, I'm not saying that it's cool. I mean, oh, by the way, it's horrifically not cool, but at the same time, this is like you're fucking. I I feel like I'm in the middle of a good ass movie right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Well, mid-story here, I do want to shout out my coworker Bailey. She has begged me to cover this case for some time now. And this is for you, Bailey. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

She must partake in the uh, you know, things, you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

No, she this case just interested her.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

It's very interesting.

The Miami Drug War Explodes

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yes. It's very in 1980. Uh, this is when Fidel Castro sent over like a hundred and twenty-five thousand homeless people with mental illnesses, and people who had been to prison. He sent them over to Miami.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

That's the beginning of Tony Montana when he came and they got in the whole camp with the tents and the shit. And the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

So you got a lot of people that come over that they ain't got they have nothing.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

They got nothing.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

So they put them in like a camp. Yeah. Under a bridge. Griselda took this to her advantage and she hired a lot of these. They would, you know, a lot of these people would become employed through Griselda. Now her sons, Dixon and Uber, were in their 20s at this time and were now a big part of the business. And Dixon was one of her top motorcycle hitmen, and Uber, he was in distribution. That's what I'm saying. Uber distribution, I don't know, is which comes into my mind.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Because you got Uber Eats. Yeah, yeah. No, it slaps into my mind of like, what is classified as a serial killer? How many people do they fucking take out? You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna let you know at the end here. Well, I mean, I mean, there's a lot of them that we don't know, which are it's so different though, because your standard serial killer is taking out.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

I mean, a lot of a lot of innocent people would be taken out during these public executions of people involved in the business. There would be innocent bystanders, yeah, that would get injured or killed themselves. But like when you think of a serial killer, you think of this one person that's taking out innocent people to feed their own sick fantasies, right? Which is what we have, or or like Eileen Warnos was basically for survival. Right.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

And deep dive, though, it's like this is a serial killer, this is a sick fantasy of them and their money and their co their come up and their way of life, you know. I'm gonna hit up uh Elizabeth and tell her I need a Griselda shot glass. For sure. Yeah, I I feel like for sure, because I mean, just like Charles Manson, he set people out to do things, right? He never killed a single person himself, right? So she set people out to do hundreds of things. So yeah, you need to reclassify what's classified because there's there's like you're trying to put different classes on things, and we we we look at drug, drug war and drug everything as a little bit lighter, and I don't understand why. And that's what I'm realizing right now in the middle of this. I'm not so horrified as as normally as you be talking about like a serial killer or something. So there's a whole psychosis that's going on in my own fucking mind right now, Lindsay, where I'm taking this lightly, but it's just so is it's equally as well. Well, I'm not done, so so yeah, hold on to that. I'm not as horrified as well. Middle point, middle point right now, mentally, I myself am taking this way lighter than I should be because we need to really understand that this is just as bad. Just as bad in the city. A different scenario. Very so equivalent whenever you you you try to weigh out the the two things drug trade and drug wars and all the all the shit that goes on in drug crime and everything, it is just as fucking bad. Yeah. So now I'm starting to get a little plant worthy over here. Yeah, I really am because I was goof booting and all this shit, but right now I'm taking it in and I'm I'm I'm weighing it out, and everything is very fucking equal. Yeah, you're killing me. Just different scenario. No, you're killing me in a whole different light.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Well, now Oswaldo, her third son, he was also a distributor at only 15 years old. See, bringing your children into this. Fuck. And Griselda, she didn't play when it came to her boys and would have people killed if they weren't allowed to date their daughter or sleep over at their house. So it's like you got to have She's just taking out people for that. You got to have they're not even involved in the yeah, you owe me money type shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

This is hard, dude. This is hard.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

This is bad. And there would be many attempts to kidnap little Michael Corleone. One man was successful, but Griselda, she got Michael back. And when this man's son passed away, like from different causes, she didn't have the son killed, but she had her hitman gun him down at this man's son's wake. Took him out at the funeral in front of him.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

She's that powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Now, Jesus Castro, who was a former employee, he got into an argument with Oswaldo.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Big name to begin with. Castro, right? Big name. Oh, yeah. Cuba.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Well, she got and uh uh he got into an argument with Oswaldo, who was staying with him at the time, and Jesus kicked him out. So she ordered a motorcycle hit for this man just kicking her son out of his house, who was probably being a little shit, and he wasn't killed though, but his two-year-old son became the victim.

SPEAKER_00 35:36

Oh, fuck. So here we go, Lindsay. I was sinking into it. I was sinking into your fucking your fuckery.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

Fuck, Lindsay. He had been asleep on Jesus' shoulder. And Griselda, she did not give a shit. She was like, All right, now we're even. That was her thoughts on the situation. Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Just fuck it. That's it. We're moving on.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

In 1983, Dario, her husband, uh Sepulveda, he was caught cheating on Griselda with a stripper. And so they split up and they're in a custody battle. And I'm sure this wasn't a legal custody battle. I'm sure this was just arguments amongst themselves because they ain't getting no law involved in anything. And Dario took Michael and fled to Colombia. Griselda's hit on Dario included fake cops pulling him over, and Dario was gunned down right in front of little Michael.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Holy fuck, she has that much fucking power.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Now he thought he would be protected because he was on good terms with Pablo back in Medien. Didn't work out.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

You never know who the fuck's gonna pop up. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

You don't. Damn. Now, Griselda, she was reunited with Michael in Miami, but they had to flee because Dario had a lot of friends. And like I said, he was on good terms with Pablo Escobar. And the DEA was now after her boys.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

This is so fucking interesting. I'm sorry, I can't say it as I'm a little slosh now, but this is tasty.

The DEA Finds Her At Last

SPEAKER_01 37:12

I mean, no, I always thought of that character on Candy Crush. Tasty. I know that's what I want to say. I want to know. Jesse's getting the tea today. Oh, so she would set up different safe houses in Miami, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. And she would kind of circle in between them, mostly staying in Los Angeles, but she was moving just enough to keep the DEA like, where the fuck is she? Where the fuck are these boys? You know? And they're moving around as well. A former friend of the family named Jerry Gomez was willing to make a deal with the DEA. So he set up a meeting with Dixon and was offering to launder dirty money for him or for the business, you know, but it was a disguised Griselda who showed up with the money that needed to be laundering. And the DEA was watching, but they didn't make an arrest just yet. You know, they got to get that shit just right. And they tracked her down in 1985 in Orange County and they set up surveillance. And when they spotted Michael outside playing at this house, they knew they had the right place. They rushed the house and they found Griselda reading her Bible in bed. In the name of Jesus. The name of Jesus. Like I when I heard that, I was like, what? With all the H's.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

Like, ma'am. W H H H H H A W and all the W's. No, like, okay, you're gonna live this fucking life, but you can wash it all away before you go to sleep. It's all good then. Right. Yeah. If I die in my sleep, I'm good, right?

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Well, to me, that's no different than the uh fucking people that come from church and go berate a server right after service.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

Yeah, and not I'm shitting on Christianity, but you need to rethink. I am you need to rethink in God.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

But fuck people that come from church or people that have scriptures in their Facebook, Instagram, whatever profile on a daily basis, wear scripture-based t-shirts, clothing, apparel, and then go and treat people like shit. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 39:23

Hey, Lindsay, I'm gonna tip you this right here. Is there a year 20? And it's a fake one, and it just has a Bible scripture on the back side.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

I'm gonna side story really. I'm gonna side story really fast. So I started following this um restaurant GM, and he's worked for several different restaurants. And he happened to work for, he happened to be a GM of the same restaurant chain that I work for. And he described this server as basically me, somebody that had been there a long time, a server that had constant requests. This server station was always full because they had that many regulars, right? So they get a party of 12. Now, according to my restaurant standards, you're not supposed to take a party that big by yourself. But this party was all in his station. He trusted the server to do a great job. So he's like, you know, you go ahead and take this party. I'm gonna help you, whatever you need. Dude takes the party. All the all the the whole party is bragging on him, telling him what a great job he's done. They're having a great time, they're doing everything. So they leave, they're going up to pay their bill, and the manager is helping the server bust the table and sees a$50 and$2 on the table. And he's like, wow, you know, you did a great job. You know, they they tipped you a nice, a nice little amount there. But I mean, for 12 people, the restaurant I work at, you can eat 12 people can eat pretty, pretty reasonably priced. But I still, I still feel like I mean 50 is good, but I'm just I always base it on at least 20% of the bill, but whatever. So Alvin, the server, he goes to pick up this money, and the 50 is one of those fucking fake 50s with scriptures on it. And two dollars. So they left two fucking dollars for a party of 12 and told this guy that he did an amazing job the whole time they were sat, right? So this guy goes and he does this in a very, in my opinion, um, safe way to get back at these people, but it didn't end up being safe, unfortunately. But so he takes them. Oh, and not only did this fake 50 have a scripture on it, it's also had an invitation for him to come to their church.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

Yeah, join the congregation. I'm bringing you closer to Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

So he goes and he hands them this money back and is like, thank you for your invitation to your church. I do already have a home church, so I appreciate this. And I was just wondering, since I am so blessed, if you could just maybe put this back in the offering plate for me.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

To me, that's great. Whatever. The pastor, who was, you know, the the ringleader of this party of 12, emails the home office of this corporation and says that this server embarrassed him. He didn't embarrass him. This was just that they were one-on-one speaking. They fucking embarrassed their server. And they had to fire him. They fucking did what they made the manager fire this poor guy.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Yeah. That's some culty ass fucking church shit that happens down here in the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

I say, mm-mm. Fuck it all. So, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

That's fucking thick. That is just thick.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

Yeah, I had to share that story because that's really been on my mind all week. Now I know better than to do anything like that because it will always backfire, and nobody is worth my job, my, you know, my income, and I have a slew of regulars and requests that take good care of me. And, you know, I love my job. I got I'm invested.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

Yeah, but don't you want to give them their fake because you have came home several times in our relationship with those fake ass 20s with the Bible script on the back?

SPEAKER_01 43:23

I've got a hundred in that box right now. I just I hang on to it for the hatred.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Yeah. No, no. Every time you ever upon a church and they pass the plate, you better put fucking one of those in it.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

I ain't going back to a church. I'm just saying, if we ever upon a church, if it ever happens, I don't even want to go to a wedding that's held at a church.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

If it ever happens, we're bringing fucking, we're bringing all we'll bring all a hundred of them, dude. We'll just be like, boom. There they just dropped in like two grand in the 20s, and we'll be like, Yeah, we got you with our own little saying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

You know what the back of those say? You know what the back of those. Could those hundred dollar bills say disappointed with a question mark? And then it has a whole spiel about uh eternal life and bull.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Oh my god. So we're yeah, I think we should go to a church on pro on purpose. Just fucking drop fucking all of them. All of them, dude. Let's do that shit. You know, you can buy those.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Let's just buy let's buy us a little pack of them and go to different shows. Let's church hop one day.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

Let's do this, dude. That would be great. The big ones, the big shitty ones. Usually there is some of them around here that are fucking decent.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Oh, yeah. Well, there, like I told you, there's one I've waited on every pastor in our little town, and there's one that's a genuinely a nice guy. Yeah, my redheaded, my red-headed guy, right? No. No, not him. He's awful. I told you this story. I told you the church that I donned whenever I was. Well, that guy, this particular guy that you're talking about, he used to come to the restaurant that I work at and would he would bring in new members and have discussions with them and sit in your section for hours and leave two dollars. Oh, that guy did. And then he would bring his family of six in. They would order three meals and he would share among all three meals among six people and then leave four dollars. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Yeah. If you're in Lake City, Florida, don't snitch on us because I just said the red-headed guy, the red-headed stranger. I thought it was a good dude. I like that church.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Well, they can all appear to be oh, fuck.

Prison Power And A Wild Court Twist

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Yeah. Is either that fucked up? I mean, I don't know, man. Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

But anyway, so Griselda is now arrested, and one by one, the DEA also got her older boys. She was sentenced to 20 years, and her boys each got 12, but then they were reduced down to 10. Now, Griselda, while she was in prison, her story spread fast, and she still ran her empire from prison. She was famous.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

Just running it. It didn't run it. Didn't stop them.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

She didn't slow her down. She met Charles Cosby while in prison, who was in his 20s while she was in her late 40s, and she made him a millionaire through cocaine distribution. And they also became lovers. Lovos. And they would bribe the guards to have conjugal visits. And get it in. Look the other way. Look the other way.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

As soon as they get in here, y'all gotta get it in.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Now her boys were released in the 90s. Now, Dixon, he was a U.S. citizen, so he stayed in the Bay Area, but Uber and Oswaldo were deported back to Medien. Oswaldo was shot twice at a nightclub by Pablo's cartel, and he jumped off a balcony to get away. But he didn't make it.

SPEAKER_02 46:49

Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Now, Pablo, he died a couple of years later in 1993, but he was killed by the actual Colombian police. Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

They came and snapped him out.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Now, while she was in prison, the murder of um Johnny Castro, the little two-year-old, um, they they tied that to her and a couple others, and one of her hit men was going to testify against her. So she was transferred to Florida and was planning to kidnap JFK Jr. What? In exchange for her freedom.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

I don't know why they're coming after me. I don't know why they're coming after me.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

So she told her lover Charles all about this, and he was like, you know what, girl, I am out. That was like the line. Like, you want to get JFK Jr.? No. So he decided to testify against her as well. And now this was all in 1996, and the prosecution thought their case was airtight, and Griselda would get the death penalty. But it was discovered that her hitman that was to testify against her was having phone sex with two secretaries at the state's attorney's office, and Charles Cosby, her boyfriend, was having an affair with one of the secretaries. So all that fell through. But she was sentenced to 20 years in 1998, but she had already served most of that, and she was out by 2004. Now she was deported back to Medien, and then Uber he was murdered outside of a gym, which was wild because he didn't really have any enemies. Remember, I told you Uber was in distribution. They took him out in his workout clothes? Yeah. Right outside. In his jumper. But you know, because I told you Uber, he was in distribution. Dixon, he was a hitman. So that was to be probably. I mean, in my opinion, if you're in this business, you're just like it's just any time it's gonna happen. Any fucking time. You're just we're just biting time, yeah. So uh I'm sorry, uh yeah. So who okay, so Oswaldo and now Uber have both been killed. Now Dixon, who was in his 40s, he was in rehab because he had started dipping into the product way too much.

SPEAKER_00 49:24

All yayed up.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Yeah. Now, Giselda, she is almost 70 at this point, and uh she decides to chill from the cocaine scene for a while. And she has some property, so she decided to rent those out for a steady income. She moved into a fancy neighborhood, used a fake identity, and she went by the name Dania, I think it's yeah, Danya Grease. Yeah. And she was pretty safe until 2006, when the documentary Cocaine Cowboys came out, which was a lot about her and Pablo, and part two came out in 2008. So sh her name was everywhere. And on September 3rd, 2012, Griselda was leaving the butchers after buying some meat, and a man on a motorcycle came by, jumped off his bike, and shot Griselda in the shoulder and in the head, and took off. She was 69 years old, and no one has ever been named as her killer.

SPEAKER_00 50:33

So many have not been named. That's that's where I was just like, you're slapping me with a lot of serious.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, Hitman, there's not a lot of them that have names. Like, yeah. Most of the ones that are named were pretty much snitched on by somebody else, you know.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

I mean, they're calling, like, okay, there's different people that they're calling out, you know. You go take out this person, you go take out that person. There's different people. They might take out two or three in their career, their their drug crime career or whatever. But there's hundreds that was called on by one person. Those are the serial killers. They had no choice. You know, they had to do that, otherwise, it was getting done to them. Right.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Now she was killed by the very same method that she invented. And it is said that she is responsible for over 200 deaths in her reign as La Madrina.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

Just her. Just one drug semi-lord. Not the Lord and Savior, but the smaller, the smaller, the smaller Lord, like Well, she wasn't smaller.

SPEAKER_01 51:48

She was equal to She was like a Lord Farquad, you know, like in the middle of things. Some of you may die. Yes. But that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

Yeah, make, take, whatever. Yeah, something like that. One of the two. Lord Farquad, gentles, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

He huffed and he puffed. And he sent the eviction to all us.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

Yeah, on a motorcycle with a fucking oozy. Damn, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Yeah, there was a fucking lot.

Getting Killed By Her Own Method

SPEAKER_00 52:14

Oozies everywhere. Using the oozies.

SPEAKER_01 52:17

So I do encourage our listeners to watch uh that documentary, The Cocaine Cowboy.

SPEAKER_00 52:22

No, the realization, like when you when you talk about like, okay, real murderers and real, and this is real. This is all fully fucking the same fucking thing. Why do you take it lightly? And do you do you? I mean, I do. For some reason, when it comes to drug trade and drug wars and drug shit, I take it a little bit lighter. I don't know if it's different. Why? It's still horrible. Yeah, but why? Why do we take it like that? Is it a mindset because we just we're so fucking glorified in films and things?

SPEAKER_01 52:55

I mean, well, no, I think like I just said earlier, when you are in that business, you should basically know in your head that it could happen to you any day. Any damn time. When you're an innocent, going back to Ed Kemper, when you're an innocent kid just trying to get to school and you're picked up by somebody who's acting like they're being a good Samaritan, it's full street. That's completely different. It's it's different. And then what he did to those bodies afterwards, yeah, after the bodies are mutilated, they're awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's completely different scenarios. Yeah, but still like okay, it's not terrible.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

The mindset of being that Lord Farquad and fucking sending somebody out to fucking send out the eviction notice, you're still fucking doing the work. I mean, it's still so horrific. And it's just unjustified drug tri-I mean, everybody's in the fucking pocket, so they all know where they're fucking at.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

And we, you and I grew up on all these movies, The Scarface, The Godfather. We grew up on um, or me specifically, watched General Hospital every day where um Sonny, oh god, Corintho. Sonny Corinthos, he was pretty much a drug lord. He had a hitman, and I loved the hitman, like he was my favorite character, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

So I mean, even everybody that gets taken out, but there's innocent people that do get taken out, so that's still just as bad. You know, so you gotta you gotta take that in in into perspective because it's just like okay, these people have chose to have this lifestyle, but unfortunately, it is a lot of their only way to make money, they don't know any any other way, and the salad be salad, yes, all the way. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Well, that is the end of our story of Griselda Blanco.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

You know, you know, Lindsay, when when you start really soaking in all the bullshit and trying to get out of Hollywood, it's it's just as fucking bad. I mean, this is really fucking bad. Thank you. Thank you, Lindsay. It took me a while in my mind. But this is fucking just as bad as everything is. I mean, you you're wrapping everything up in one big ass ball of fuckery, and it's just as bad to me. I am fucking drunk off this fucking drink over here. He's not even finished one.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

No, I'm saving it for the band, dude. I'm saving it for the band.

Music Break With Parish Nine

SPEAKER_00 55:42

So, what band are you gonna cleanse our palate with today? Cut water, dude. If you want to have a cut water, I guarantee you're gonna get super slosh, dude. I mean, just do it.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

He hasn't even finished one. I've had two during this session, and he's still on one.

SPEAKER_00 55:59

Off the mic.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

I'm not finished with part two with my second one.

SPEAKER_00 56:03

Normally I'm like a liquor dude. I'm drinking hundred-proof bourbons. A lot. Cut water gotcha. And this has got me. No, I took a full-on shower and got all sobered up. Fucking cool, whatever. This is slapping me, dude. I got a band though, called Parish Nine. Parish Nine. Well, I'm gonna get to work on my admin. Yes, Parish Nine. Lindsay, this song is called Dream Within a Dream, and I want you to dream with me because this is some good ass shit right here.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:24

Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay. So cool. They were fucking awesome. Yeah. I love it, dude. Sharing all this stuff. It just Oh my god. The music, the music. Yes. And finding all these bands really cool, really cool stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

So they are Parish Nine on Spotify, which I followed them on there, and on Instagram, Parish Nine Official. Um, they describe themselves as melodic hard rock with a dark pulse, which is exactly perfect, perfect description. And I guess they had some of their old counts uh were deleted, so they're rebuilding. Go follow these guys, support them.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

I have been there.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

You sure have. Jesse had a huge following with Shadow the Earth, and we were literally at the springs and trying to enjoy our fucking life with friends and family, and their page got hacked and he had to start over.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

It's like weird because like we were in the middle of like Rockville status. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, boom, somebody just like latches on to you. A curmudgeon of just nastiness, whatever you want to call it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

Or it could have been a bot. I mean, like, we don't know. Yeah. We were rocking.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

Unfortunately, that we were exploding in the United States just the same as them. And, you know, support these bands.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

Well, unfortunately, like it it there was no restoring of your original account. So you had to rebuild. I mean, we shared and we did the thing for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

Like almost 6,000, and it was just like it was it, it was skyrocketing.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Which is a lot for a local hobby band. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

We were we were okay. We were just like starting to skyrocket up to the to the I mean, we were in the you know, upper thousands, so it was just like, what? I all of a sudden, boom, you know, after Rockville, it was like just fucking somebody just hit us. And they were like, Oh, we'll give you everything. They actually did. They sent a thing, they were like, ransomware or whatever. We'll give you all your shit back if you give us money. And I was like, fuck that. As a hobby, no. Yeah. Your fucking page was ransomed. That's wild. Yeah, it was really ransomware because they did hit me up, and you know, that happened. It happened in my work too.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Mm-hmm. Well, it happened to a lot of businesses around our area. I'm sure it's happened to many, many more in bigger cities and things. It's crazy. Oh, pay attention to your securities. Like even our city works, like our utilities company was hit up because we got letters from that. Yeah. ATT had a data. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:00

It was rough. Yeah. It was rough. Yeah. It hit us in our in our local area, and I was part of it. It was around the same time. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

Well, we are going to wrap up this episode. We're gonna share our plugs really quick. So on Instagram, we are drinkabout something. On uh our main website is drinkaboutsomething.sight. On uh if you want to send us a gmail, if you want to share your story, if you know of a true crime story that you want to hear us talk about, or if you've been a part of one, send us an email at drinkaboutsomethingpod at gmail.com. And if you want to join in on our lives on TikTok, it's drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay. And on YouTube we are J-E-N-D-S-E-Y.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:48

You will find us. And I think on season three, I'm just gonna put this on an end roll, you know, where it just plays the shit. No, it's not, it's not because we do have we do have a trying to be repetitive, but we're doing it organically, and that's that's a real, right? I like that. I kind of like that. I'm I don't think I'm ever gonna put it on a reel, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:09

No, it only takes us a few couple minutes whatever to engage with our audience.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:15

Follow, like, subscribe, and share.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

Comment and rate us. That really helps us get into the algorithm of the true crime community. So that like when you're you like me, I'll put on my latest episode of my favorite podcast, you know, and then while I'm in the depths of cleaning or exercising or whatever, whatever comes next is something that's in my algorithm, and we want to be in yours.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:48

Just finish that cut water. And um, I was really liking my Farquad joke, man. I was liking that. Not trying to be selfish, but I uh I'm kind of gasp uh basking. I was finna say gasping. I'm gasping in the in the ambience.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:04

Lord Farquads and just y'all.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

I feel like I'm gasping over this fucking cutwater, anyhow.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

That'll be Jesse's last cut water. That's my last first and last.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:14

Done. Yeah. Damn it. That shit was strong. Don't you ever bring that shit to me. Don't you ever bring that shit to me. No, I want more. It's vacation, really. It's really good. Yeah. But um, yeah, that was that was a good uh horrifically good, I guess. I mean, you fucking killed me. Thank you, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

And um and again, shout out to Bailey. She brought this one to my attention. So I hope you guys enjoyed it. And Bailey, I hope you enjoy my coverage on it. I hope I lived up to your expectations.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:44

Shout out to Parish Nine. Shout out to all the fucking followers. God, we got some good ones left.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:49

Yes. Thank you guys so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:52

Our our um, this would be our like fourth. One, two, three. Yeah, this will be our fourth real follower that we're looking for. So hit us up, follow us, and we want to see you in all the algorithms and all the things just popping up, dude. I want to send you some merch. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

Oh, and one more thing. We need to, we for well, we didn't forget. We were in the throes of vacation when we recorded Ed Kemper. Yeah. But we wanted to make sure that we um gave uh Jason Chanel his location. So he's from Orlando, and that's where we were when we recorded that episode and featured him on that episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:30

So we're in the middle of doing that shit like at a table at some whatever resort we were at, and it was like we're going through the things. Didn't you find out he was in Orlando? We could have hung with him.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

Yeah, we could have partied with Jason. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

But we'll be back. We're gonna hit Jason up. Yeah. Next time we're in Orlando, we need to hit him up. Yeah. Tell me, tell me what you wick him with. Yeah. Yeah. That was a cool jam. I was jamming to it yesterday. Karen Shine was like a vibe, dude. I think I'm gonna put it on our sex tapes. You know, the ones we uh are our uh don't tell nobody. Our playlist. Yes, that's a good one. Yes, I like it. Well, we'll see you guys next Friday. Yeah, and check out all the like middle week stuff that we do, like on Wednesday, the recaps and all the shit, dude. We that's fun, right? I think uh we do. Jesse's gonna have a bonus episode next week. You're calling me out.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

I am calling you out.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

I'm not ready for that. Well, you gotta do it. You're we went to the place, dude, and I felt so shitty, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

Like it took me a whole giving you another week. Oh, it took me a whole day to get it. Get your shit together.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

Lindsay, it took me a whole day to get over that. I know it really did.

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SPEAKER_01 1:07:37

I couldn't even video or picture it or hey, you wanted me to do this, so you you decided to take this on.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

I know we're going longer, but like, okay, we pulled up to the spot to see where that house was. If we would have gone just a little further, that was actually the spot.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

Well, that was a private drive, and uh we had we already creepy felt the thick, horrible energy, and I don't even know anything about this.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:03

And I felt it was, wasn't it? And I didn't even I'm not trying, I didn't even portray anything on Lindsay. I just like told her a couple little things, little small things that didn't even it was not tangible by any means. It was not anything to build off from, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Basically, all I know it's a horrific cult.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:19

That's all I know, and that's coming up, so check out that shit. I guess I gotta do it one of these days. I'm gonna need I'm gonna need help. I'm gonna have a little help from me, friends, somehow. I don't know, but I don't know. I'm not ready, dude. Maybe I need some more of these modeling. Hold on, yeah. I need some liquid courage and cult water and can't do it. I don't know. Cold water just puts me in the dick in the dirt over here, Lindsay. I'm gonna get the fuck off of here. I love you so much, and Lindsay wants to say it. Bye.