Summer Drinks And Quick Hello

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hey Jesse. Hey Lindsay. What's up? What do you wear?

SPEAKER_00 0:10

I want to go to the river, dude, or the beach or something, or a cruise or something. Shit. Jesse is wearing my waterlogged river hat. Love it so much.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Dude, like I just want to look like this forever.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

It's amazing. I want you to wear that all summer.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Can I?

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

All summer long?

SPEAKER_00 0:29

All summer. But what are you drinking right now?

SPEAKER_02 0:31

I'm drinking some some Captain Jacqueline Onassus III with the dark sunglasses. Have you heard? What are you drinking over there, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

I got a blackberry white claw. It's very good, very crisp. Very crisp. Yeah. Yes. So hello and welcome to Drunk About Something, where we are raw, uncut, and unedited. We're gonna recap um our last two episodes for you really quick.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

Let me have to talk about the thing that I did.

House Of Prayer Cult Recap

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Yeah, so Jesse's gonna recap his bonus episode. Bonus episode first. Now, if you guys listened and enjoyed that, leave us a comment because I, re-listening to it, enjoyed it. Was broken again. That was a rough one.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

If you haven't listened to it, if you haven't listened to the one that I did, don't stop. Doesn't do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

No, 100% do listen to it because it is great. It is a cult that happened right down the road from us. You said our biggest town is Jacksonville that listens to us, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Our biggest city.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

Biggest city.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

So I mean, they can go and I mean I don't I don't recommend going to check this place out, but you can do it. It's right down the road.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Yeah. I mean, never go there. Don't. And never listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Listen. Stop it. Recap it. Stop being judgmental of yourself.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Like, I hate you because you hate you. No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Stop talking about my husband like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Lizzie, but you know, uh just I don't know, man. I don't I don't I don't I don't know. So the House of Prayers was what we were talking about, a religious cult in Mikinope, Florida. And um a lady came down there and her husband started this whole cult, which was also like it, it it doubled as a boarding school. And Mama Anna.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

I'm giving I'm giving looks to YouTube and TikTok at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Mama Anna did some very horrific things.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Horrific.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

And I just um I know that I did my research on it and didn't tell Lindsay about it. And she's like, No, you're gonna do this podcast. You're gonna do the you're gonna do this one, you're gonna be the fucking leader for this one, bud. And I was like, dude, I'm not ready. I'm not ready.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

I love how you do it again.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

You know what I'm saying? But I I wasn't ready, and I did it anyhow, and I wasn't ready for like three weeks, dude. I really w it was wearing on me. It was heavyweight.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

We got the work done in a week, which is about, you know, like I start my research usually on the Friday before, and I will sometimes it takes me all the way to the next Friday to finish my scripts. Sometimes I'm done by Tuesday. It just depends on the subject.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Yeah, I was fully involved. I really was, you know, and I couldn't help it, but I was, you know. So this House of Prayer got started in the 80s, and she had a congregation that came in there and she was fucking mortally abusing people while it was going on. Morbidly. I do recommend checking it out if you're fans of true crime. This is very horrific to me. It was really it was a hard one for me to actually speak into words that I had written on that paper.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

And there's a documentary on YouTube that we did watch. Because we recorded back to back last week, and in between, while we were letting things charge, we watched that documentary, and god damn it, like that shit was rough. And I but I mean I can't I can't even be mad at him because I do it to him all the time.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Yeah, the blood of Jesus, just so many times that you pass out have the seizure.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Like I said, and I'll say it again, I don't think Jesus would approve.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Oh no. Yeah, she was two years old, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

I don't think he would co-sign to any of this bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

So I'm thinking victims here, okay. Let me uh let me go over victims because there's one that I didn't even mention in this pod in that podcast.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I did not mention one. Going in an Easter egg, got it. And happy post-Easter, folks.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah, so Emmin Harton, little baby Moses, right? Uh victim. Uh Katonia Jackson. She was uh three-year-old, actually, um, victim. Um Catherine Davison. Victim. That was the one at the beach, right? That we talked about.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

That was the stepdaughter.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Missing stepdaughter. Talked about her.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

Ugh, I got chills. I'm glad when I will be glad when we are completely done with this shit.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

And your Easter egg is very heavy. Is Marcos C R U Z. Cruz. Cruz. Yeah. Marcos Cruz, right? Easter egg victim. He was loving on his mom too much while he was in the cult, and they excommunicated him.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

I'm reading Jesse's notes and I'm fucking horrified right now.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

In 1984, they excommunicated him because they said he was full of the devil because he was wanting to love on his mom and it was unnatural. This is a child, Lindsay. Dumped him off in Puerto Rico, never was found again.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Well, you know, OG Mormons uh were like that in the beginning. Like you couldn't have any compassion or love for your children.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

Yeah, I don't understand it. Like Joseph Smith, like As we watched in the documentary, I don't know if you caught that Easter egg that I just dumped on you, but literally the mom was like, I'm allowed to have hugs and love on my child. And they were like, No, he's the devil. We need to dump him off in Puerto Rico. Never was found.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah. So I I watched that documentary like with full frame of mind, and the trapdoors and the hidden little compartments in that house just absolutely gave me all the nausea that I did not want.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Yeah. And there's so much more, but those are missing or deceased humans that were part of this. And I think her husband, dude, I think her husband, Jonah.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Well, we've already we've already come to that conclusion in the episode. Go back and listen to it. Yeah. What did you call it?

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Uh, Jesse, Jesse has a cult story.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Jesse has a cult story. That's the episode. Um, for those of us just joining on, or those of you, not us, those of you that are just joining on TikTok. So we are a true crime podcast where we also we have a couple of drinks and we plug bands at the end of the episode. Yeah. So today we're recapping the um House of Prayer cult in Mikinope, Florida. And we're also gonna rec recap one more episode, but I'm gonna let Jesse finish up.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Well, I mean, that's the long and the short that I want to share because, you know, go check it out. You know, it was really hard for me to put that one out. It was really a tough one for me to do this. You're a strong ass woman to do all these 73 other ones that we've done here.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

It's rough.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Yeah.

Susan Cox Powell Story Starts

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Um, make sure you check out the one that comes out Friday because I geek the fuck out because it is about a subject that I love very much, but it is a heartbreaking story. But we're here to recap last week's episode. So on Friday, so that uh Jesse's episode came out on Thursday, my episode came out on Friday. We are recapping the horrific, unsolved um murder of Susan Cox Powell. Or, I mean, I guess we have to technically call it a disappearance because there's nobody, there's no proof. So Susan Cox Powell grew up in the LDS community. She had really good parents, she had a really amazing dream to open up a cosmetology shop that connected with a little doggy grooming shop. And I think that is an amazing concept.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Yeah, because while you're getting your dog done up over there, you can go get done up over there.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The dogs come first. I mean, they're just like the children. So anyway, she had that dream, but she also wanted a family, a husband and a family. So at 19 years old, she meets who is described as let me re let me word this correctly. So he is legendary for his controlling personality. That guy. That guy. So she meets Josh Powell and for and he's throwing a party for single Mormons. He had already been in a relationship prior to Susan, who fortunately she got the fuck out before things went sour. So Susan and Josh meet, and they are married within six months. Don't do it, guys. Don't do it. Now, and I can't even say that because it depends on the circumstance. My parents were married after three months, and they've been together for like 40 fucking years. It's it's it's crazy. But I do, but they were in their early 30s when they married. So you lot you know a lot more about life. When you're 19 years old, don't marry a guy that you've known for six months. Don't do it. And and vice versa, don't marry a girl that you've only known for six months because you just you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

You don't know. Yeah, watch for uh whatever's circumstantially correct and make sure you're protecting yourself while you're going in off into that endeavor. Yeah, I would say that much of it.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

And and honestly, don't marry anybody in your late teens or 20s. Go live life, travel, do the thing, because statistically, you're gonna be divorced.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

It's a hard time for relationships, really. And I I do I agree, I agree 100%. 25 is a good, a good year. And don't have kids until you're about 30. 30. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

30 is a good year to marry and have kids. Yeah, finish growing up, right? Yeah. Do your do your thing, live your life. So, anyway, so Susan and Josh, they marry, like I said, after six months, and then Josh's true colors shine bright like a diamond. No, I'm going the other way. Shine bright like coal. No, I was I was you're true. They they shine dark. Shining through. No, I don't even want to tie Phil Collins to that shit. So Oh, hey on the lives. Hey Live. Hey, TikTok, and of course, hey, YouTube. Yes, yes, are here for us every week. Um they meet, they get married six months. She's 19, he's 23. He requires her to have a full fucking spreadsheet of her expenses and everything that she spends. But guess who isn't required to have that? Oh, it's Josh. And she has to ask permission to drive the car. He wants her to knit her own socks, which, hey, dumbass, that's actually more expensive than just going to buy them.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

What did I say on that? You said that, and I was like, my fingers hurt.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Oh, yeah, we we reference uh Happy Gilmore. Yeah. I had to think really quick.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

I had to do it, dude. Yes. I was just picturing her in there, like, you know, hook, swoop, stab it in the guts, pull it through. And she's all like doing like the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Who the fuck wants a knitted ass, hot ass? Well, I guess it is Utah. Maybe they need it.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

They so they were between Utah and Washington, okay? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

30 degrees in the morning and 99 by lunchtime.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

So, like I said, she's gotta have this full spreadsheet of um expense expenditures, expenses. Josh ain't gotta have shit, and guess what? He puts them in a deep cesspool of debt to the point where after eight months of marriage, they have to go live with his father. And his father is Steven, Stephen Powell, he's a huge part of this fucking story. He's disgusting, he's a creep. He's got a uh he's got a camera. Where's where's a something? Yeah, yeah, there you go. Jesse. So what we're so it's not a phone.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Hey, it's hey Lindsay. How you doing, Lindsay? Hey, I like your smile, Lindsay. Uh can I can I rub your head?

SPEAKER_00 13:43

But you gotta make it look like a brick.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Oh. I love I love your um I love your eyelashes today, Lindsay. Can I rub your feet, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_00 13:55

No, creep, which is what Susan should have said.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

I love your headphones.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Why are we rest okay? I don't remind if we're restricted for some audiences. TikTok is sickle.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

I wasn't done filming you with my my Jack Daniel.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

So anyway, so Steven, let me let me go into it. So Steven is Cam, he is, he's got a camcorder in his hand at all times. And look, this is the this is the motion that I'm using.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

It's a big brick with the VHS tape stapled into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

So Steven is videoing Susan all the time. And most of the time, without her even knowing that he's doing it, he's videoing her shaving and I don't which I don't know how. I mean, I mean, I do know how. I watched the documentary.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

They have like a peephole or something he's poking it through.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Like this family had no fucking boundaries because guess what? Steven raised all of his boys, just his boys.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Um, he ra he introduced them to I don't I don't I don't want to be restricted here again, but he subjected them to corn. Yeah, if you get my drift. From a very not the Jonathan Davis type, not the Jonathan Davis corn, because he Jonathan Davis is a legend. Yeah. Steve Powell is not.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

A little bit harder than Hugh Heff would have. Hard corn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

So anyway, uh, hardcore corn. There we go. At a very young age, let his boys get away with everything. And so there was so Josh had two brothers and two sisters. And Steven, uh like a Josh's family was big into the LDS church as well. Steven pulled away, he got divorced, and what's that?

SPEAKER_02 15:48

I'm alive. Steven. Ooh, Steven.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

That's for Roger. Love you, Laura. Thank you. Thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

Y'all need to come over and do the Pamela Pumpkin this Halloween with us, man.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

I'll Pamela Pumpkin. But okay, so Stephen Powell, he's disgusting. He is convinced that he has this relationship with Susan that's not there. It's all in his head. Josh is like, whatever, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

And how do you let your fucking dad run around going at your wife like this? God, this is so. Oh, it's the cringiest of cringe you ever. It's so cringe. It's a whole tree full of like cringe sickles. Yeah, that's what it is, dude. It's a holiday season of all the cringe.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

It is kind of the holiday season. We're in Easter.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Oh, well yeah. Peter, you know, Peter Crotchingtail over here with his video camera fucking videoing my wife, and I don't care. Whatever, dude.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

So Steven, he he is delusional. And he just he really feels like that him and Susan have this connection. And he professes his love for Susan, and she's like, she tells her husband, we gotta get the fuck out of here. She tells Steven, I'm married to your son. This is not gonna happen. I don't know what you got going on in your head, but this is not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yeah, and he was even like portraying it like she was trying to lead him on, and she's just stuck in this religion. Stuck in a religion in a household with a bunch of people that are so overly religious that she was just trying to go along with like anything just to let it fucking be cool at the household. Go along to get along. And uh there wasn't enough nose, and she didn't have anybody to help back her, and it was really horrific, dude. I mean it was terrible. You gotta find a way out if they're if you're looking and needing to get out, find a way.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

I mean, fight for your life because it just but she was in it, she was in it to win it because LDS, okay, and I'm not trying to hate on Morbins, but you guys are pretty yeah, y'all are pretty hardcore, man. Like I would have been gone, but Susan, she hung out. So she does bring this to uh to Josh's attention, and they they do move away. They go to they go from Washington to West Valley, Utah. They have two boys, uh, Charlie and Braden. And uh instead of being the cosmetologist that she wanted to be, she ends up getting a job for uh with a what did I say? A stockbroker. Excuse me. Um I don't have my notes. Jesse was prepared and has his notes, but mine's in the bedroom. So I'm going off the dome because I do know this story.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Like I mean, this was number two on when she decided to be a podcaster type story, is what this is. So yeah, check it out.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

So she gets a job uh being a stockbroker. She's she's bringing home the bacon, uh, but she's she's got to do everything else too. Because Josh, I mean, by God, he's you know, he's too good to lift a finger in the house. She does all the things, you know, she takes care of the home. She's she's the breadwinner of the household. And Josh also feels that uh, you know, as the kids get a little older and they go to daycare, that they only need one meal. They only need one meal a day at daycare.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

Yeah, he's trying to control the money that he spends on his own children because he's like, they're just gonna poop it out anyhow. Why do I need to feed these kids? Don't they get fed whenever they're in daycare? What do you get? Like an apple, a milk drink, and a pack of cookies? You know, what do you get there? I mean, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Like I do say in the full episode, go back and listen to that. Daycare and school meals are mediocre at best. You want you the exciting part of the day is coming home to fucking mom spaghetti. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Palms are sweaty. Yeah, I do know what you're saying, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

We watched Eight Mile last weekend, and I'm so excited that we finally, I've been wanting to watch it for two years, and we finally watched it last weekend. I was so happy. Look at my face. Like, I'm like, I was so happy. But yeah, so but honestly, that was what you look forward to. You can't you wanted to come home to mom's cooking. You didn't like what you ate during the day wasn't shit. What you ate when you got home, that was the nourishment, that was the excitement, that was the best part of your day.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Yeah, something wholesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

For most families, I I do understand that some kids, what you eat at school is what you eat for the day.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Yeah, unfortunately. And you know, structure and family in these day and age, things shift, you know, people shift in their their work schedules, and you know, if you have a healthy househome type situation, it is good to have that meal at least a couple times a week for sure, you know.

The Day Susan Disappears

SPEAKER_00 20:53

But my point is, this family, they could afford a good meal for their kids if it hadn't been for Josh. Racking up$200,000 worth of debt. Susan's gonna account for every expenditure or every expense. Josh, he ain't gotta account for shit, and he he just buries them. He's running amuck. Running amok, getting all the uh everything that he can possibly get that made no sense, that did not benefit the family, um, to the point where Susan's gotta call her friends and say, Hey, can I borrow some hot dogs to feed my kids because they're crying, they're so hungry. Not acceptable, not cool whatsoever. So then one day, after you know, they've been married about eight years, and Josh, like I said, has has gotten legendary controlling status, and Steve Steven has sexually harassed. Susan for years. Um one day when Susan and the boys come home from church, their friend Giovanna or her friend Giovanna comes over. And Josh, he's all of a sudden, he's husband of the year. He's making pancakes. He's tucking Susan into a blanket. And he's like, Oh baby, are you okay? You sit here and get comfy. Let me make you some pancakes. And all of a sudden, when Susan eats those pancakes, she don't feel good. This is five o'clock in the afternoon. Susan goes, you know what, Giovanna, I just I don't feel good. I gotta go, I gotta go lay down. Then Josh tells Giovanna, you gotta get the fuck out. Cause I want to take the boys sledding. Even though it's winter in Utah and there's a snowstorm coming, I'm gonna take the boys sledding.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

On a Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

On a Sunday. Yeah. The next day, Susan nor Josh show up for work and the boys don't show up for daycare. And when people start calling around and asking, so it everything started from uh the nanny. So the nanny's like, these the boys haven't been dropped off. What the fuck? Susan always brings these boys on time. So she calls Josh's mom. Josh's mom calls the police. The police, you know, they uh at by this time, I think it was like 10 a.m. People have gathered around the home. They're trying, they're knocking, they're trying to get somebody to come to the door. Josh's sister Jennifer, who is on the good side. We'll put that there. She and Josh's mom, Tarika, they tell they give the police permission to break in. When they break into the house, there's two box fans. I'm knocking your mic. There's two box fans drying out a freshly washed sofa. Okay. But nobody can get a hold of Susan. Her purse, her keys, all the things that she would have with her normally are still at the house. Then Giovanna, the last person to see everybody, she shows up. Oh, by the way, the police are like, okay, this is beyond our pay grade. We're gonna call an investigator. They call an investigator. He shows up. Ellis Maxwell. I'm doing good. I'm doing good off the top of the table.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

You are. I'm letting you roll, dude. You I mean, I'm like, I don't even need to plug in here. You got it.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

So Ellis shows up, then Giovanna shows up. She's like, hey, I just spoke to Josh on the phone. He says that Susan's at work. I don't know. Do you want to talk to him? So Ellis says, Yes, I want to talk to him. What the fuck? She's not at work. She is definitely missing. Where's your wife, bruh? He's like, Well, I've got the boys, but let me drive 20, let me backtrack 20 minutes to go back to where I was.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Oh, and make a phone call.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

And make a phone call to make sure it pings off that that tower.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

To a phone that's in his pocket.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

That he has with him.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Yeah, he drives, he backtracks 20 minutes to call Susan, whose phone is in his van.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Yeah, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

Then he makes another phone call later on that I didn't tell you in the episode. Easter egg! Easter egg. So he makes a phone. He goes to her job that he knows she's not at and says, Hey, I'm here. I'm waiting for you. Because he's lame. And um What the fuck? Literally. Yeah, so all those, you can look up all those phone calls on YouTube. All everything. Everything that has to do with this case, the phone calls, the later 911 calls, everything is there. But go and listen to our coverage on it because Jesse knew nothing about it. And hearing his organic reactions is always fun.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah. I'm not bored. I'm just wore out. It's been a long ass week over here, Lindsay. And uh, you know, uh Yeah, we're gonna wrap this up soon. Something's kicking over here. I think it's the uh Jacqueline Daniel Onessis over here. Cheers, everybody. Drinkaboutsomething.side. Come check us out. Every week we have new episodes. And um, thank you guys for joining in all the stuff. Lindsay's telling uh recap.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Oh, thank you, Laura. So Laura says, How are you doing this without a script? Girl, I don't know. I'm just like we're recapping. Recapping. I know this story, though, so through and through that the next one that she that we tell, she won't have a script. I'm never gonna do a script again.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Ever. Ever. We're never reading the words. We're just we we already know things.

Evidence, Phone Pings, And Pressure

SPEAKER_00 26:40

So Susan is missing. Josh is acting like he don't know anything. Um he and Steven, creepy steps, creepy father, creepy father-in-law, he and Josh go off the grid at the same time. Then Michael, Josh's brother, he uh makes sure that he has his car crushed, but things don't go according to plan. And awesome detective Ellis Maxwell, he gets wind of this and he brings out um the sniffing dogs.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

The sniffing dogs. They ran right to the trunk, but they didn't do any real DNA testing, though, right there. They should have done something a little deeper because they it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

So whatever they found that day was not enough to make an arrest. But so a couple, I mean, unfortunately, a couple of years go by, and so Susan's parents, Judy and Chuck, they are trying their hardest to keep her name relevant. And also, Jennifer, Josh's sister, forgot this part. She gets involved, she tries to get a confession, it doesn't work out, but she tries. She's she's there, she's on the right side, she's on Susan's side, she's our girl.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Everybody in the family knows something isn't fucking right. She didn't just go missing for no fucking reason.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

And they're all trying to get it all uncovered. I mean, they're doing like what the honking waves and all that stuff. Yeah, so that was my next individuals and they're doing community things and they're putting out all this stuff for awareness for somebody to come forward. And then during the honking wave, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

So they're trying the whole time they're they know Steve and Josh know something, and they're trying to agitate them or rattle the cage or whatever you want to call it. Um Steve finally takes the bait when Chuck does a honk and wave where they're holding up pictures of Susan, honk if you miss Susan, okay? Honk wave if you miss Susan. This is two years later. Josh has had their children at Steve's house, creepy Steve's house, the whole time. So anyway, Steve takes the bait, he gets out of the car. This is all televised, by the way. And Steve reveals that Susan's journals are in Josh's possession. This gives police everything they need to get a search of Steven's house. They find you gotta go to listen to the full episode to get all the details, but they find a lot of nasty shit that Steve has kept of Susan's and of other children, and of other people, of other yeah, neighborhood women, neighborhood children things. And then they also find uh anime uh corn on Josh's computer.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Yeah, but remember he was wiping his computer before all that wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

He was just backing it up.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Oh, he was wiping that son of a bitch. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why he was backing it up. He was cleaning it out because he had so much more dirt on that computer. I guarantee it, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Oh like father, like son.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

This gets the kids taken from Josh. So Chuck and Judy have the kids now, and for some reason that reasons that I will never ever, ever, ever understand. Like I said, this case haunts me and bothers me at least once a week. So Josh is first uh granted supervised visits in a government facility, then he is granted them in the home.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

Yeah, it should have stopped at the government facility. Should have stopped there, bro. You're not allowed to bring the kids back home and let them give them any more influence other than full public supervision.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Right, because these kids, Chuck and Chuck and Judy haven't seen them in two years at this point, and they are absolutely wild and have no structure whatsoever because Josh and Steven did not care. So little Burt, raw, uncut, unedited, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

So can I fart and say that? I was just don't do it. A little love.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

It was just a little No, I love that.

Supervised Visit Turns Catastrophic

SPEAKER_02 31:34

I love that. Like it's it's it's your um it's your safety net, Lindsay. It's your raw, uncut, and unedited safety net right here.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

We're getting to the dark part.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

So home visits are approved. A social worker brings the children to a home visit with Josh. Is where I got pissed way all the way off. The 911 call. Okay, so the social worker, Elizabeth, she brings the kids to the house.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

Yeah, they get out of the car and they're walking up to go see their day.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

They run, they run to go see Josh.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

She's gathering all of her paperwork and trying to come on in the house. He slams the door at her face, locks her out. So she's like, What do I do? Let me call the cops.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

She smells gas. Yeah. Gasoline in the home when he shuts the door.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

So she goes to her car, gets her cell phone, calls 911, the 911 caller. That 911 call will piss you off. I can't even tell me your thoughts, because I've heard it so much that it I don't even want to think about it.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

It made me want to slap something. I don't know what. But I just was very viscerally appalled. I mean, she's she's trying to talk to this dude, and he's all like, oh yeah. Oh, so where are you at? Oh, you're the you you're supposed to be supervising? Who are you supervising? Oh, you're supervising yourself. How do you supervise yourself?

SPEAKER_00 33:14

I'm getting I'm angry.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

This is a dispatcher for 911. She's like, I'm I'm uh a contracted social worker to come and supervise kids or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

And she's like almost 70 years old.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

She's all distraught, so she's like fumbling with the address a little bit. But she's telling it to him in time enough to where he should have been like, Yes, man, we're gonna get somebody right there right now because she has told the whole story within five seconds. But he dragged it.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

It's a 10 it's a 10-minute call to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

It's it's a whole but she told him everything he needed to know to go ahead and hit go.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

It was an emergency, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

And he treated it as though it was not, and he literally told her drug it out to the point where uh all the events took place. It may have stopped something from happening. I'm I'm thinking if they were close enough, it could have stopped.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

She asked, Are you are you sending somebody? And he said, They have the police have to answer life-threatening emergencies first. This was a life-threatening emergency because guess what? Josh did a I'm sorry, I have to be a little sensitive with TikTok here. So it was a unalive double. I don't even know the words to say it because I keep getting restricted.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

He brought the kids in there and he did something with a hatchet.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Nobody made it.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Nobody made it. Then the whole house went ablaze. Nobody made it. They um they perished with the kids.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Did not make it. Josh planned this out. He had sent out emails and voice messages to family members prior to that nobody got until after this was over, until after the 911 dispatcher failed this fucking whole situation.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

Yeah. Could have been changed if they were close enough. I feel like they probably because the the place went ablaze like within 15 minutes. So uh I Josh Time-wise, I don't know, but still the dude on the phone really pissed me off.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Oh, it's it's one of the and I've listened to a lot of 911 calls over the years. It's the worst one I've ever heard of. And that one is I'm gonna say the worst.

Aftermath, Sentences, And Unanswered Questions

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

That I can that I can recall right now, period. So Josh and the boys are gone. Susan's still missing. Nobody knows what happened to Susan. Stephen gets sentenced to 10 years for his crimes. He's out in five. And he is uh he leaves this world by heart attack. Then before that, though, Michael, Josh's brother, the one that wanted the car crushed, he unalives himself almost a year to the day after Josh did what he did.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Yeah, holding on to it. Just would not let it out be out in public because a lot of people knew some things. That's what I'm thinking. Well, okay, three or four. Still, that's a lot whenever you're trying to gather something. I think there was three or four people that really knew something.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:32

Enough.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Now, Stephen, uh, after you know, police had confiscated everything from the home, Stephen had written things down in his own journal. What's up with I have I ain't kept a diary since I was 10, but these folks, they all they kept documents of everything. Stephen had written in his journal basically saying Josh took Susan out. But we will never ever know because nobody is with us anymore. Nobody's here.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Somebody knows.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

And I really like my heart goes out to Chuck and Judy and Susan's family, and even Jennifer, Joshua's sister, who tried really hard to do the right thing. I really hope that that fam that all those all of those folks can, I hope they sleep good at night and have some kind of peace because they don't deserve. I mean, that's just gotta be really hard. That's gotta be really hard to go through, to deal with, to have on your mind every day of your life.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Yeah. And with both recaps, if you're living under a tyrant in a family, in a household, with both cases that we're talking about right here. Get out, find a way out, find a safe spot. People will protect you, dude. If they're it especially in these days and ages, I mean, it's not like, well, you probably deserved it. That was that was back then. The then is gone. If you need help, I can go to my next door neighbor and they'll they'll lock me up in there until we, you know, and get it figured out.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

So no religion, no religion is ever worth what Susan went through. No, what Terrica went through, who was Steven's wife, you know. No, no religion is worth that.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

Or any of them kids of the house of prayer and adults that they did so many horrific things to. So if you're under the tyrant oppression, just run, dude, and find you a spot. Go to a gas station, go anywhere, dude. Be like, no way am I leaving here right now. I have somebody with me. Everybody has documentation in their hand, the chip is in your hand, and turn it on.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Even if you deleted it, they'll find it.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Yeah. No, uh, just get away and and let it all be known.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Find safety, find solace. Somebody out there will believe you. And hopefully, that guy that answered that 911 call is the guy that, like, for training purposes, that they they use him. Don't don't be this guy.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Oh, if you find out anything about that dude, do some deep diving and let us know. I'll send you a free t-shirt. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

We love you, Laura. Thank you so much. Thank you for watching.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

Yes, yes, yes. I'll send you a free t-shirt if you find out some garbage on that dude.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

On the 911 t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Yeah, the dispatcher. We have all respect for 99%. But this dude here, that guy, that was the guy. That guy. What the hell? Yeah, find out and send it to us. And uh send your address too. I'm gonna give you a DAS shirt so you can uh you know support.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Well, honestly, that's about that's what haunts me the most about this case is that guy. That 911 call.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Yeah, because you're the impending doom is happening, and there is no resolve toward positive on that conversation.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

You're just like everything is bad. You feel like everything is bad.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

All this is running a hundred miles an hour now, and the kids are involved, and and now they're in the house, and there's gasoline, and and the it just goes in slow motion, especially when you hear that conversation. Everything is just a slow drive drug through the mud that we're sitting there listening to, wishing we could fight our way. It's like a dream fighting in your dream and you can't win or something, you know. That's what it felt like listening to that. So check it out.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

I had a dream uh about two weeks ago where I couldn't I was trying to talk.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

And in my dream, things were not like I don't remember a lot of dreams nowadays for some reason, but like those want, won't, want when you're just trying to, and people were looking at you like, what the hell are you doing? And I was trying to- So they just keep walking by and you're just like trying to tell them you're screaming, and they just keep moving and you can't get their attention. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

I woke up in a hot flash or a night sweat, is what they call, yeah. I'm in my 40s. Um, so yeah, it was a night sweat, and I was so stressed out. So I can, and you know, that lady. I doubt that she's I don't know. I don't know if she could she she would be in her 90s now. I think.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Either way, having to go through that is just too traumatic.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

I mean I don't even want to think about it. But hopefully, now that I have put the story of Susan Cox Powell out in the world, and it's it's a popular one.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Yeah.

Get Safe And Final Sign-Off

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Um, and you can find, like I said, all of the 911 calls, the calls that Josh, you know, his his phone calls, trying to trying to make an alibi for himself.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

It was garbage, complete garbage.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

Everything was garbage.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

We even put a clip in there where Susan's like trying to like document a way out. She's like, if anything ever happens, we've documented this. We're going through so much stuff. I mean, check check out the podcast. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Check out our full episode. Laura, you look so good. I love you.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

And if you ever wake up in the night sweats, you know what you what?

SPEAKER_00 42:28

She said the homeless guy looks great too.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Oh, thank you. We need river time. Look how pale I am, dude, over here. Um I was saying though, like, if you ever wake up in the with the night sweats, you gotta go, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Whoa! Oh, oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Son of a bitch. Yes. Bob for the drink. Happy Friday, everybody. Happy Wednesday, everybody. Happy whatever day of the week it is.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

On TikTok, it's Friday. Hey guys, and on YouTube, it's Wednesday.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

Yeah, we're gonna get the hell off of the YouTube stuff because uh Lindsay, we got stuff to do, bro. I know, we do. Yeah, I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00 43:07

But so we're signing off YouTube. We love you so much. We'll see you on Friday. Bye.