Cold Open And Drink Check

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. What are you having to drink today?

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Like a little jack and some energy drink type thing going on. It's kind of cool. Like a cherry kind of cola with a jack of the Danielson has, you know, like wax on, wax off. Danielson. Danielson. Yeah, Jack, Danielson. Anyhow, what are you what are you drinking, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_00 0:26

I have my little uh white claw peach mango combination with a peach vibe Celsius.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Oh sounds festive. I think you should do a vod in the middle of this. You should do a fucking vod.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

I'm saving vods for tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow. Tomorrow's, you know, hang out on the back porch day. We're celebrating the nephew's 21st birthday.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Yeah, doing the whole. It's gonna be a good day. Doing the whole Huda Maruda Moro. Wuda Maruda Moro. I just want to get this fucking party started. Started. Right. Now, Lindsay. You know why? You want to know why. Why? Because it's a no bullshit ass fucking podcast right here, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

This right here is one of those podcasts that you can take fucking seriously, Lindsay. Okay. This is one of those podcasts you can take to the fucking bank. Dude, everything that comes out of this podcast is fucking gold, dude. I'm telling you, it's like a hundred percent genuine fucking bullshit. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

So when you take it to the bank, are we are we cashing a check? What are we doing? Are we depositing? Nothing in all. We withdrawing.

Feeling Old With Needle And Thread

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Whatever, dude. What made you feel old? No, shut up. Shut it up. Shut up. Shut your own up. What made you feel old this week?

SPEAKER_00 2:11

I had to thread a needle today to sew our son's shirt.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

So this needle small I know. Oh god, it was so bad. My eyes are just so goddamn old and I can't see the fucking hole and I. I'm sewing to the mattress.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Right? Is that what happened?

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Why did you sing my whole story there? So side story. Silas is obsessed with Tom Morello right now. And uh he had us order him some uh what is it, Boy Scout style button-ups?

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah, I got him some that looked Tom Morello-esque.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Yeah. So we got him two of those. For some reason, well, like we got him a bunch of them for Christmas, different ones. Like we got him like garage style mechanic shirts, then the boy, the Boy Scout style shirts. So two of them, one of them he ripped. I don't even know how that happened. So I whip stitched that together. And while I was whip stitching it, I did literally sew it into the comforter. Um, but threading the needle, I mean, listen, all the old people things that you can think of, I did. Like I stood back and did the whole squint. Like sew. Yeah, I did the long arm.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

That's cute. Did you lick it?

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Yes, I did. Of course, you have to lick the thread.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

You gotta lick it before you stick it. Oh my god. I mean, what? You're so dirty. I'm talking about sewing, Lindsay. Okay, because you know, I know about sewing.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Yeah, and then I had to sew buttons.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Yeah. I know about some buttons.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah. So I had to whip stitch a rip, and I had to sew some buttons. And I've been putting that off for a while. You know why? Because I knew I was gonna struggle threading that needle. You gotta get the threader thing, dude. You pull it through. You know what? After I did it, I looked down and looked in the sewing kit and I seen it.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

It's right there the whole time. Oh I'm kicking my own ass.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

I did it and I I got the project done. We just have to order one extra button for the tan.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Oh my god, Lindsay. Why do you make me want to have a video camera while you're goof booting around trying to do it?

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Oh, you can make a whole oh, God, my Saturdays alone would be great content. Not my Saturdays, my Fridays.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Oh, your Fridays, yeah, pure ass entertainment.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

While I'm walking around the house scrubbing it clean, ADHD style, with hair dye in my hair in clips with a shower cap on top. It's a sight to be seen.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Well, the thing is the whole time you're doing all that shit, you're like 99 miles an hour, and the circus music is playing in the background. And she's vacuuming, like pushing that shit like she's on cocaine and shit. This is fucking wide the fuck meffed open. I mean, like she uh finds herself out in the middle of the cul-de-sac just you know with the vacuum cleaner.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Yeah, we don't have neighbors cool enough to be nose to to to to vacuum my grass, you know, to listen to their drama. Have you seen those videos?

SPEAKER_02 5:13

I'm glad we don't have the drama.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

I know me too. Yeah, I'm glad we have drama-free neighbors.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

I need to use your phone.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Unfortunately, we've been the drama neighbors, but you know, we've chilled out over the years.

SPEAKER_02 5:29

We haven't been that drama, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

No, not us personally. So we've had parties at this house.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Oh, yeah, yeah. Reflecting that have had drama involved. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

I mean, we would we would shut it down and kick it out quick.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Because if you're gonna party at our house, you gotta be cool, you gotta be chill. Take that drama to your mama.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Yeah, it's the back porch. Everything's ump to five. But we're we're unfortunately all the drama would happen in the cul de sac.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

We're like, you gotta fucking go. Yeah, you can't be doing that here, man.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

They're like looking at each other, having some beef at the fire that we don't know about. Meet me in the sack, and they're fucking out there beating the shit out of each other.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

We have no idea because we're vibing on the back porch. The cops are out there? What the hell? Some kid got ran over in the median. What? What somebody threw a beer can at a car? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

So I ran ahead of the class and I am excited for you to say what made you feel old.

Saturday Morning Cartoons And Nostalgia

SPEAKER_02 6:23

You did? I mean, I already knew your thing, too. So I mean it's Saturday morning cartoons, man. The fucking best. That makes me feel old because I probably haven't had a Saturday morning cartoon sitting in front of the TV. You get up, you get your damn cereal in your Ninja Turtle bowl, right? Remember the Ninja Turtle bowl?

SPEAKER_00 6:45

My parents weren't that cool.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Oh, fuck, Lindsay. We didn't have a rape. You know what? Last time I was at a thrift store, I think I seen a ninja turtle bowl. I'm getting you a ninja turtle bowl for Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

I would rather have a rainbow bright. That was who I was in time.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

You're trying to make it hard, isn't it? Rainbow bright.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

I did love, now don't get me wrong. I loved fucking Ninja Turtles. Teenage mutant, ninja turtles, turtles in a half shell, turtle power.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

I can sing the whole song, but we're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Yeah. Um but they are the the world's most Phantom fighting tea.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Okay, stop.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Um, so I would have that was my I wanted to have either a My Little Pony or a Rainbow Bright or even a strawberry shortcake cereal bowl.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

It was cereal and it had the turtle bonnet.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Kid cereal, Jesse.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Shrink wrap to the Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

I never had kid cereal as a child my whole life. Well, don't go break it, my heart. I had grape nuts and mucineks. And honey bunches of oats was the sweetest cereal allowed in my house.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

What the fuck? You got insure. Here, here you go. Here's your some milk. Uh, this is in mucinex.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

What metamucil? Metamusile. Metamucil. Sorry, I said it wrong. Yeah. Meta musile. Whatever that fucking high fiber cereal was, my parents wanted to make sure I was fucking regular, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

But you gotta understand, like, I was the very young child of people in their mid-30s, in the 90s, where everybody was diet and health conscious. We were just talking about this, where um, you know, there was there was no real butter. It was, I can't believe it's not butter or country croc. Fuck both of them motherfuckers. Give me some real salted sweet cream butter at this table.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Something really in the butter dish. Organic. Something real, yeah. And I mean, I really do feel like I need a ninja turtle bowl and maybe some He-Man, dude. I think we need to do this, man.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Now I didn't know He-Man wasn't a Saturday morning thing for me. That was before school. He-Man and She-Royan 30, something like that. I don't know. No, He-Man and She-Ra, okay, on my TV. Where they stations after lunch? No, I just said it was before school. Before school. He-Man and She-Ra. They were back to back before school. Now, this was when I still lived in Lakeland. When I came up here, there wasn't shit. Uh, it was get ready for school and because I had to walk and cross the busy highway to school.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

I'm thinking around nine-ish on Saturday, I think I caught He-Man some somehow.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

My lineup that I remember, like from an early age, as it was Pee-wee, Garfield. Um shit, that's all I can remember.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Well, Garfield and Friends. Yeah, Garfield and Friends. And then Well, you didn't catch any of the Animaniacs. That was later on, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:38

That was Nickelodeon. Yeah. That wasn't on ABC, which is the only channel I got.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Oh, Lindsay, you're making me cry all my cries, right now, dude. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

But we're gonna have to move on from this. And remember, I mean, it's crazy that you brought up Saturday morning cartoons because we're gonna mention a person that was part of that lineup. Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_02 9:56

I didn't know this. What?

SPEAKER_00 9:58

I know you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Why does all this fucking thing tie together? Why are we on algorithms of algorithms that don't even so virtual raise your hands? Virtually raise your hand and send us a comment when's the last time you had a Saturday morning cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Now, when I got a little bit older and ABC really fucking had the good shit, like recess and um Pepper Ann. Comment immediately if you knew Pepper Ann. Like I I loved Pepper Ann so much because it came out when I because so it's a little girl, it's about a little girl in the seventh grade, and it came out I think when I was in the sixth grade, so I like related. I loved that show.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

I don't remember it. I don't remember that one.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Yeah. Okay, but it was an older kids' cartoon, but not it was it was a preteen type cartoon.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

So, like a Pippi Longstock and knockoff thing, or no, Pippi was great.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

It came on right after recess. So I can't believe you don't remember because you liked recess.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Yeah, I do. Um, anyhow, Lizzie, you got stories. We can go on for days on this.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

I do, I do. So you ready to get started?

SPEAKER_02 11:07

I'm not ready, but I mean you're gonna fucking you're gonna put it on me anyhow, because uh, you know, that's what you do.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

All right, so today we are drinking about Phil Hartman. Phil Hartman was a national treasure who, in my opinion, could unite boomers, Gen X, and elder millennials in saying that this guy was something special when it came to comedy. And most would know him from Saturday Night Live, but he did so much more, and we're gonna dive into that. So Philip Edward Hartman was born September 24th, 1948, to Doris and Rupert Hartman in Brantford. No, yeah, Brantford, like Brantford, not Brantford, right down the road from us, but Brantford, Brantford, Ontario. Hey Canada. Hell yeah, Kanada. Yes. Canadian comedians are really something special. I love all of you so much.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

And we love British comedy too, but oh god, British comedy is great too. Yeah, but sometimes it's at a different level. We just we haven't been yet.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Like, I mean, honestly, like Jim Carrey, fucking shits Creek. Um oh my god, why can't I think of the other letter Kenny?

SPEAKER_02 12:26

I was fixing to say I was gonna punch you in the face if you do not remember.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

That's I mean, that's my shit right there. I look hello, Canada. I love you so much. I don't know why I'm talking British, but you're British Canadian. So Phil was the fourth of eight kids. So he was kind of the middle child, and we know how those middle kids are always in a fight for attention. The Hartmans moved to the U.S. when Phil was 10, and they first lived in Maine, then moved to Connecticut, and then ended up in California. California. No, listen though, for real, because we're gonna talk about SNL quite a bit. And I just want to say that the Californian skit from SNL with Bill Hayter and Kristen Wig and Fred Almasat. Oh my god. What are you doing here? Yes. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. What are you doing? Okay. Anyway, so Phil, he would fit in with, or first, he attended Westchester High School, where as you can guess, he was the class clown. He fit in with any crowd, the jocks, the hippies, everyone. And he was actually friends with You're Gonna Shit Your Pants. Lynette From.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

Lynette From?

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Do you know who that is?

SPEAKER_02 13:55

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

So she would be later known as Squeaky From.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Squeaky From? I'm still not shitting, Lindsay. Why?

SPEAKER_00 14:02

So Squeaky From was part of the Manson family.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Now I'm shitting. Just a little, nobody makes me prove it.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Yeah, he was just friends with her in high school, like, and then Squeaky went on to do squeaky things. But so then he attended Santa Monica City College for a while, and he made some friends, and he loved to surf and sail and was very adventurous. He was really amazing at doing impressions, and that will be the talent that would later make him super famous. Superstar. Yes. But at this time, he was just living. Now his friends, uh his friend, I think his name was Wink. Oh my god, give me just a second. I gotta look up Wink's last name because he's very important. So it's Wink Roberts. Wink Roberts. Yes, and Wink uh remembered an instance where they were at one of those cool hot springs around Mammoth Mountain, and the steam was so thick that you really couldn't see anyone. But there was like a hundred people in the spring, okay? So it was dark, it was hot, it was steamy.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Are you sure we're doing this kind of podcast right now?

Early Life Impressions And Roadie Days

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Well, no, okay, so it's gonna turn fun. So his friend was like, Phil, do some of your impressions, man, because you know they're hippies, bruh. So he was doing like John Wayne and Sinatra and Jack Benny, and he went on for like two hours. So he was just like this voice in the night, in the steam, in the fog, echoing through the whole pool, yeah. And he had this whole crowd captivated. And then when he finished, his friend or Wink was like, ladies and gentlemen, that was Phil Hartman, and he's gonna be very famous someday. Called it. And Wink fucking called it, yeah. So in 1969, his older brother, John, is the manager of a rock band called The Rockin' Foo. I had never heard of them, but I mean, they were kind of the big deal. I mean, they were on the same circuit as like Jimi Hendrix and shit, okay? Holy shit. So he asked Phil to come hang out with him and be a roadie for the band. And Phil's like, hell yeah. He drops out of school to go do this gig. And he got to meet Janice Joplin and Jimmy and even assist Jimmy's drummer on stage one time because the the kick, look, I'm tapping my foot. What's it called? The kickstands for his drum wasn't working correctly. So Phil just goes up and holds this drum.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

So okay, okay. So the so the the pegs wasn't holding the whole drum.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Right. If something was malfunctioning, yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

It happened a lot, yeah. Cause like they would get loose and then the whole the whole bass drum would go sliding forward. So he's out there holding the bass drum so he can still be playing. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

I was gonna say you, I and that's why I was like vague, because I knew you could fill the blanks there. Yeah, yeah. In 1970, he married a woman named Gretchen Lewis, and at first everything is amazing. I mean, like, Phil is deep, deep in love, okay. And then he starts to pull away, and this will be a pattern for him in relationships down the road. That he is all he's very into the new. The new is his favorite part, and when that wears off, he's kind of done, you know?

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Yeah, all the uh the the glamours.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

The honeymoon fans, yeah. So he and Gretchen they divorce in 1972, and he goes back to school around this time to study graphic arts. Um, I think this was in Santa Monica. Oh my god, I forgot to list the uh fucking college. Anyways, so he goes back to school, he studies graphic arts, and his brother John, who had managed the Rockin' Foo, now has his own management company and is over several bands. So he hires his bro to do album covers for a lot of these bands, including America. Remember that song? I'm going through the desert on a horse with no name. That was called America. Yeah, that's the name of the band.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Oh, the band. Okay, the saying went through the desert. Yeah, the band was called America. No name.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Going through the desert and a horse with no name. I don't know. It's not rednecky, but it's like it's it's they had a very weird sound.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Who's that that was singing in that band, though? Wasn't it somebody else that got famous?

SPEAKER_00 18:35

You want to give it a quick goose? Yeah. Because I did not research that. Give me just a second.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

No, the guy that was the lead singer for that was somebody else, right? I'm trying to think of who the hell it was right now. Right now.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Oh, there's no tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Oh, sorry, I'm going all over the place.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Okay, so their members were Jerry Beckley, Dan Peak, Dewey Benell, Winnie Leacox, and Richard Campbell. Nobody that you and I are familiar with. What the fuck, dude? Yeah, I could have swore that. So and they also did that other song, um, Ventura Highway. That is the name of that song. No, Horse with No Name.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Horse with No Name.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

And then Ventura Highway. I think I know that song. That sounds familiar. And then Tin Man. I know those.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

I don't know why I'm thinking that's somebody else. Anyhow.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Anyhow. Anywho. So he also did album covers for Crosby Steels and Nash. Phil was very talented. But he really wanted to be a performer of some sort. He really didn't know how or really what he wanted to do, like entertainment wise. He knew he was good. He didn't know what to do entertainment wise.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah, he wanted to entertain, but he was like, What do I really want to do as an entertainer?

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Exactly. So he was single now and he goes on the dating game show. And I didn't realize this, but so many people that were trying to make it in in NLA, they would go on uh the dating game show. Like this was like uh like a rite of passage almost, like Steve Martin went on there and everything.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

No, no, no, no, it's Hollywood 101. So you're getting actual uh film footage that's publicized and professional, and now you've added that to your portfolio. Now you can show up with something for free. Yeah, I've been taught this because I went through the whole thing with Silas about that.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

True, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do the free stuff and join and do all the free stuff that you can, and they're building your portfolio for you, and you don't have to pay for it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Well, there was even uh a psycho killer that went on that game, but we're gonna talk about him later. Did we already? Or we haven't yet.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

We haven't yet.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

No, but I made you watch the movie. But I'm gonna wait until you forget about it before I talk about him.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Yeah, season four. Season four, we'll hit that one.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

And Phil was actually he won that episode that he was on. Oh, but he was set up. Poor Phil.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Uh uh. Yeah. I took the money and ran. Do they just give him both money or not?

SPEAKER_00 21:10

You know, I really am not sure how it goes. I mean, you and I watched the movie about the psycho killer that was on there, and you actually are supposed to go on the date, I think, before you can. I don't know. I don't know how it works. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Anyhow, he's got his free publicity, anyhow.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

I mean, your date is paid for by the studio, I do believe. Yeah. But um, I'm glad that that girl got out of that. But like I said, we're gonna talk about that way way on down the road. I gotta wait for Jesse to forget it.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

I don't remember that one. I don't want yeah, I thought we actually talked about it on here. No, not yet. No.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

So in 1975, there was an improv group starting up called The Groundlings. Do you know what the groundlings are, Jesse?

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Um, no.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Oh my god. This man has no clue when it comes to comedy. I am a complete nerd.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Sound like some shit and some Harry Potter shit or something.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

The Groundlings uh would become the start of many comedians' careers like Paul Rubens, John Lovitz, Conan O'Brien, Lisa Coudreau, Maya Rudolph, Will Farrell, Chris Kristen Wigg, Melissa McCarthy, and that's just to name a few. That's just, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

So it's like behind the scenes. Yeah, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

And there were several throughout the country, but this one was like That's the number one one, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Not the I wouldn't say the number one, but they were they were number one for most of the comedians that I like. I'm just gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

The OGs of whose line is it anyway? Like type of.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

I'm not sure if they started there or not, but we'll get into that later. So I got a story to tell.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

Not that much.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Okay, so Phil was there in the beginning, and he went in as just part of the audience. And they asked an audience member to come up and be a part of the show. And Phil is chosen and does his amazing impressions and captivates the crowd once again. And then he is asked to join the troupe. Now, one of his more famous characters was Chick Hazard, private investigator. And it was genius. Later on, I'm taking Jesse down a whole Phil Hartman road because he's very clueless right now. But oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Let's go right now. I love Phil Hartman. Let's just end this and go.

Groundlings Breakthrough And Pee-wee Success

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Now, while he was in the groundlings, uh, so was, like I said, Paul Rubens. And you know who Paul Rubens is, right? Pee-wee Herman. Yes. Who later went on to star in his show, his own show, Pee Wee's Playhouse. And Phil would be Captain Carl. Do you remember Captain Carl? Now I think, okay, I don't know if he was actually part of the show we watched on Saturday morning, but I do know that he was part of the groundlings improv group, Captain Carl. I can't remember 100%. It's been a long time. It was the 80s. Okay. He also co-wrote with Paul Rubin's Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, which is a movie that you and I love very much.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And yes. Did the guy that played La Bomba or some shit was in Pee-Wee's Playhouse?

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Jesse, are you talking about the Richie Vallins? Or are you talking about the actor that played?

SPEAKER_02 24:23

The actor that played Richie Vallins.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Hold on. Do you want me to give that a goog too?

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Yeah, well, you got me scattered. I'm I'm over here. I'm I'm I'm doing my Jack Jacqueline Onassis Daniels over here.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Jacqueline Onassis Daniels. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

I should I should wear a pair of dark sunglasses.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Okay, what did you say he was in?

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Okay, in Pee-Wee's Playhouse, the guy's Playhouse. The guy that played La Bamba. What was his name? Why don't we remember his name?

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Oh, okay. Hold on. Let me look up La Bamba. Yes. I believe it was um uh what's his name? Uh Lou Diamond Phillips.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Lou Diamond Phillips.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Now, what did you think that he played?

SPEAKER_02 24:56

In Pee-Wee's Playhouse, he was the cowboy guy, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Lou Diamond Phillips is like our age, Jesse.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Yeah. We must watch it. Yeah, you can look it up, Diamond.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Okay, I'm gonna look it up. Oh no, he's 64. Oh, but uh Okay, so I think I have one of those.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Hang on. I do.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Hold on. I'm looking. I'll see you. So I'm just gonna look up Pee-wee's Playhouse.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Cast. I swear, dude. It was something like that. Is my brain not branding?

SPEAKER_00 25:31

No, his name was No, hold on. Give me a sec. No, it was four. Oh my god. I'm about to jump around and do cartwheels and fucking handstands. It was Lawrence Fishburn. Fucking the Matrix.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

The Matrix. That's right. Yeah. That's right. There it is now. Whoa. I'm way off, but I'm way cool. Either way. Holy.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

How did we get that wrong? Lawrence fucking Fishburn there.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Fishburn. Yeah. That's who that was. Never mind. Why is my mind just so twisted like this?

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Because we've had we've gone through a lot, Jesse. Oh, yeah. We have gone through a lot.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Morpheus.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

In fact, yes, Morpheus. So in fact, I saved this little meme earlier.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

We are sorry, everyone. If you hate this, skip past it. But still, we had to have usness. This is our usness time. Damn, dude. That's a cool combo right there, though.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Really quick. So for millennials, the fact that in one lifetime I recorded music onto a cassette, burned music onto a CD, clicked and dragged it onto an MP3 player, and streamed it from a smartphone is crazy. Because that's us.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Yes. We've done it all. But Gen X took that shit from the eight track all the time.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

I was about to say, Gen X started it. We're elder millennials. We're on the cusp. It's whatever. So, anywho, Phil's love life, like I said, was pretty crazy because he liked he only really liked that new new, you know. Now he dated every woman at least once that came through the groundlings. Actually, it was like only once. Like he really never took a second date. But then in 1982, the year of my birth, uh, he meets Lisa Strain. And it started out very intense, true to Phil Hartman's style. And they marry. And then Phil starts to pull away again. And he because he would never really fully let anyone in. And even though he's a comedic genius, he was actually quite reclusive when offstage or off-camera. That was just his, that was the stage character.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

His only way to be an extrovert is to have comedic protection. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Now, Phil, uh, Phil, he starts to get more roles in commercials and movies, and he's even in Cheech and Chong's next movie. Oh. That's the movie that we couldn't think of. We talked about Cheech and Chong a few episodes back, the movies that we liked, and that was never mentioned that one.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Couldn't bring it up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

That's the one that I like. Well, too many talks over the line. Yeah. So he's married to Lisa, and uh he tells her that she's just she's a little too clingy, that she needed to have her own life and friends. And uh they go to Santa Barbara for their first anniversary, and she gets this sexy lingerie, and Phil rejects her. No! Yeah, year one. Yeah, yeah. Year one. Oh done. Come on, Phil. What's what's wrong with you, bud? So after I think it was a total of three years, I'm not sure if they spent all those three years together, but the marriage status was three years, then they went their separate ways. But they did remain friends for forever.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

I don't know if I would, dude, on my honeymoon. I'd be like, dude, I've done dressed all up for nothing. I know. Dude, what am I gonna do with this?

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Well, we aren't there, we don't know the dynamic, but they remain friends. And then a couple of years later, he meets Brynn Omdale, whose like birth given name, her government name was Vicki Joe. But she changed it to Bryn. That's weird because it sounds nothing like Vicki Joe, but you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Yeah, creative, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

So Bryn was the tall, blonde model type who had come to Hollywood looking to become famous, but it hadn't really worked out for her yet. She was 10 years younger than Phil, but saw that he was going places and she wanted to go there with him, sort of, you know, kind of like I'm gonna ride the coat.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Now it's speculated that Phil had maybe been initially attracted to Bryn because she had previously dated Rob Reiner, who we recently lost.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Oh, yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Now we're gonna cover that story in the future as we get all the information for that. But I mean, at that time and for up until he passed away, Rob Reiner was a big deal. Yeah, and Bryn had dated him. So Phil was in, and like his previous patterns, he fell head over heels in love right off the rip. Now, Bryn, she loved to party. And this was the 80s. So when I say she loved a party, she loved, can you guess it? Cocaine.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Weed like, we like to party. We like, we like to party.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Now, Phil, he liked weed occasionally, but that was it. You know, he was a little, he was a hippie soul. And in fact, when they met, she had just come out of rehab. And also around this time, Phil is asked to audition for Saturday Night Live.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

The big move.

Relationships And A Pattern Of Distance

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Now, listen, when I tell y'all I am one of the biggest Saturday Night Live nerds of all time, I'm not lying to you. Like I have spent hours watching that show. Now, my cast, okay, so they say statistically, because SNL has been around that long that there are statistics. They say statistically, your cast that you really fall in love with is the one that you watch when you're in your teen years. And that is 100% true with me. But when Netflix started streaming, and I could watch every episode all the way back to the beginning in 1975. That's all I watched for like a year.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

The old school, gold school.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

You know, and I loved all that stuff too. Yes. You know, I love uh, I mean, I actually I cannot, I can't differentiate. I mean, we love the Adam Sandler years and the um all those, you know, so amazing.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

My cast was Will Farrell, Sherry O'Terry, um, Jimmy Fallon, um Horatio Sands. That that I mean, that's like off the top of my dome right now as a person who's quite buzzed because this is Drink About Something. But like that cast uh Molly Shannon, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 32:04

But so the next gener just past Adam. Just past Adam Sailors.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Because you know, they they went through some trauma, you know, they all got let go, like that whole because they had bad ratings.

SPEAKER_02 32:16

But but that was, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

I know, but Phil, okay, Phil had already turned down an opportunity once before, but he wasn't gonna do that again. And this uh was in the show's 12th season, and this is also what made me feel old this week because this was in the late 80s, and SNL was only in their 12th season, and they just celebrated their what?

SPEAKER_02 32:43

50th.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Yeah. Now, also in this cast was John Lovitz, who we fucking love, Dana Carvey, who we fucking love. Okay, Lorraine Newman, who I'm sure you're not familiar with, but I am. And this cast had to do the damn thing because SNL was in danger of being canceled. They were actually like there was headlines calling it Saturday night dead at this time. Yeah, it was in oh, it was in danger of being completely canceled. So this cast that Phil Hartman was now a part of had to step up the fucking game. But we like I said, we all know that it wasn't part in thanks to Phil Hartman and his characters on the show would include Eugene, the Anna Retentive Chef, and guys, guys, look up every skit that you can find of Anna Retentive Chef, especially if you're Jesse and I's age in your 40s or even a little younger, even a little older. Y'all will know because this shit was it was gold, it was golden. Like he's trying to organize his shit. Like he's like, do I want it alphabetical or do I want it by color? Like it was it was crazy. And I watched one um skit where he did with John Goodman, where John Goodman was kind of impersonating the Cajun chef that you and I grew up watching on PBS. No, not the Swedish chef, the Cajun guy, Gerald. You know, that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. Just look it up right now. So then he was the unfrozen caveman lawyer. And a lot of his impressions would include, like I said before, Frank Sinatra. Then he would have Ronald Reagan, Ed McMahon, Barbara Bush, Charlton Heston, Kelsey Grammer, Michael Cain, Phil Donahue, Kirk Douglas, Johnny Cash, Jim Baker, and Bill Clinton. He even played Jesus on a few sketches, and those are amazing. I watched one where he played Jesus and Sally Field. This is when she was, I think it was like right post like um Steel Magnolias.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

You got me geeking right now.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

I know. So she's so he's playing Jesus, and Sally Field is playing the woman that prays too much.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

And Jesus appears and he's like, do you really have to pray that like the water won't boil too hard, that your rice won't burn to the bottom? Oh my God, it's great. I'm gonna show it to you later. Because Sally Field's acting is like impeccable in this skit. And then Phil Hartman's just like this. Jesus is like, do you really have to pray? You know, it's it's really funny. And then she starts breaking down, crying, and he's like, never mind, never mind, let's just forget this ever happened. And she's like, How am I gonna forget this ever happened? And it's it's great. It's great. So he was so important to this cast that later Adam Sandler or either Jan Hooks, I've heard both, because Jan Hooks was on the cast with him, they would start calling him the glue. And actually, Chris Farley is also seen like on video. They called him the glue.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

I know. And everybody would agree, and that would become his nickname. Now, Phil would also be a writer for the show as well, and won awards for both. Like he won Emmys for his skits, he won Emmys for the writing, he was doing it all. Phil was the tits. I mean, you said, look at me. Look at my face because I'm getting to talk about stuff.

SPEAKER_02 36:32

I'm just over here trying to figure out how we're gonna twist a true crime into this. What? No, this is gonna be devastating for me. You have built a whole beautiful ass painting with all the pretty little pictures and all the pretty little clouds and the happy little rainbows.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Well, I'm trying to keep it happy and sweet as long as I can.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Oh fuck, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Okay, so Phil married Bryn in 1987, and they would have two kids who do maintain a private life. So if you want to look up your their names, you can. I'm gonna keep it just they had one boy and they had one girl, okay? And their relationship had already been rocky before they met, or before they married, excuse me. And most of Phil's friends weren't thrilled when they found out that he was gonna propose. Even Elvira, who he had been in the groundlings with, and she was just like, Don't do it, Phil. Just don't do it. Elvira. I know my heart's on fire.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

Was in the groundlings, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

I mean, there's no giddy up a um bafa mow mow about it.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

No, but he did. And uh they have the children and he loves being a father, but it seems he is always trying to get away from Bryn. So they're like bicostal for a while because they're their main home is in LA.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

Yeah, he's in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

He's doing uh, you know, he's doing SNL. Yeah, and she was always coming to the SNL set and just always hanging around, which wasn't really conventional, it was kind of unorthodox. Like nobody else's spouses really did that, but no one really kicked her out. And she would become very emotionally and physically abusive to Phil. She was, like I said, she was trying really hard to write on his coattails to fame, and it seemed like she was just like kind of like a brat, like pitching a fit because she couldn't be famous, but her husband was, you know. That's just how I see this woman.

SNL Turnaround And Iconic Characters

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Very didn't have the talent, but thought she had the talent. She, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

I mean, he did try to get her roles, but was unsuccessful because I I just don't think she was that good. Now, even in, I didn't write this in my script, but I'm going off the dome here. So, you know how in Saturday Night Live, when they do the opening credits of all the cast members, and they all have their their little spot that they videotape in the city. Well, Phil's is at a diner, and Bren's face is this way. She was trying so hard to show her own face, and the director's like, no. So he's like, just look at Phil and act like you're talking to Phil because Phil's over here, he's gonna show his face. He's like, ah, you know, I'm Phil Hartman. And so what she had just flipped her face. So in his in the opening sequence to SNL, when it gets to Phil Hartman, Phil Hartman. Yeah, exactly. You see her earring dangling because she had literally flipped her head that way. Flipped her head that way. But that's her in the opening.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

She was gassed up too much. Everybody kept saying she's probably beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

She's like, I'm beautiful and I'm blonde and pantygenic.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

She's gonna be on here with you, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Yeah. And she she was always struggling with addiction to alcohol, cocaine, and narcotics. He would even have to take the kids out of the house sometimes because she would go into drug-fueled rages, but he would never divorce her. And I honestly think because his his two previous marriages had failed, and he probably like looked inside himself and he's like, you know what? Maybe I'm the problem. Yeah. And he's like, so I'm gonna make this work. No matter what. Yeah. Now he was encouraged by many to leave her, but he wouldn't do it. So he instead would buy boats and toys and gadgets and even a plane. And he loved to go to Catalina Island. And that was his favorite place to go selling. And I saw videos, and it is gorgeous. But do you remember? We talked about Catalina Island in a previous episode.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

Yeah, me and you had a wine mixer there one time on this podcast. Yeah. It wasn't really a good one.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

No, no, that was where Natalie Wood died.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Yeah, they had them a wine mixer, and she just got dumped off the side of that son of a bitch. Check that podcast. Yeah, go back.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

That was uh a Thanksgiving episode.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Oh back and quit bringing back stuff that I actually do remember.

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Sorry, Christopher Walkins part of that and Robert Wagner. So go back. Oh now he would go there so much with his friend Britt that Brynn was convinced he was gay with Brit and they were having an affair. But they weren't, they were just getting away from her. That's how toxic she was. Wow. Yeah. Now Phil gains even more fame. When did Bill Clinton get voted in? So 93-ish? I think so. 94? I think so. So when he became president, Phil did an impeccable, I mean, the best impression of him. And Phil is all over the late night shows for interviews, and he becomes even more popular, which Bryn hated. Now, after he graduates from SNL, and his farewell is Jesse so amazing. They did the whole sound of music type skit with the so long farewell of you don't say goodbye. Uh uh. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

That's hot. They don't want to watch this.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

Yes. He graduates from SNL, and NBC is going to give him his own show. I think it was either the Phil show or the Phil Hartman show, just something, you know, basic like that. But it never really took off. And that pissed Brent off even more because she had really wanted to be part of that show.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

Yeah, she thought she'd for sure get her foot for sure be in there in the Rockefeller Center. Yeah.

The Simpsons NewsRadio And Peak Fame

SPEAKER_00 42:39

So the trouble at home continues. But then he goes on to voice Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure on The Simpsons. Do you remember those characters? Ooh. Okay. Yes. Lionel.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

Lionel.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

And he plays in House Guest, Sergeant Bilko, Jingle All the Way, and Small Soldiers, but Jesse. My absolute favorite role that Phil Hartman played of all time was Bill McNeil on news radio.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Really?

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Yes. So he had, so this was a show about a radio show.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

So Lindsay, you mean like almost like W-A-R-P in Sansa Nanny.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

I think it was WKRP.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Oh, I haven't said that little jingle in 30 years. Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

I know. Hold on. I'm popping up in a new drink.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Do it.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

To finish this out.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

Do that a WKRP right there, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

So Phil Hartman's character in this show, like I said, was Bill McNeil. And his segment on the show was called The Real Deal with Bill McNeil. And it had a little jingle behind it. I don't know if I can sing it. The Real Deal with Bill McNeil. I don't know. You'll have just Google it, okay? I loved this show so. So fucking much, you guys have no idea. It had Andy Dick, Dave Foley, Vicky Lewis, Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

This is gonna take me a month to catch up on all this fucking shit you're talking about here.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

It's crazy because Jesse grew up with cable. I did not, but I know more about everything cinematic and Hollywood than he does. It's crazy. I think it was because TV and movies were my solace, other than books. Like if I wasn't reading, I was watching a program. Yeah. And even if I had to hold the bunny ears with my own hands to watch a show.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Just to make it happen.

SPEAKER_00 44:45

Oh, I did. Absolutely. Because my my home life sucks. I mean, I was the only child of conservative Christian parents who all they did was pray and read the Bible. That was just that was my getaway.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Yeah, I was out playing in the woods and you're out talking to cows.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

I was talking to cows. Yes. I was talking to cows. Or watching TV.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Or a book.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Or a book. I mean, but I was left at home a lot because, like, during holidays and stuff, that's just where I hung out at the house. So I was watching at our boys' age, I was watching soap opera. Shit, I shouldn't have been watching. Okay, we'll just say that.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

But you were watching that with your granny sometimes. Let's watch our stories.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

Yes. I did watch the stories with granny. But I also remember in daycare, like when everybody was supposed to be napping, they were watching Young and Restless and shit. And I didn't nap because ADHDers do not nap when they're children at all.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Wait, something there's motion foaming. Slow motion foaming.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

I nap now, but I did not nap back then. Like na what is a nap? And I would be watching the stories right along with them, okay? So, anyways, he's on news radio. Brynn doesn't get to be a part of it. So things at home continue to be very tumultuous. Fuck. Tumultu I can't say it. I'm too drunk to say this word.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Tumultuous?

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Tumultuous. Tumultuous. There we go. I said it. Tumultuous. And Bryn is still abusive, battling addiction. She goes to rehab a couple of more times, but she never stays. Now Joe Rogan even says that he tried to convince Phil to divorce Bryn at least five times. Yeah, she's turned rehab into rebound. Really, literally. Like she would go for a couple of days.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

That way this shit hits harder when I come back.

The Night Of May 27 1998

SPEAKER_00 46:38

But it Phil would always say that he was staying for the kids. Now everything comes to a head the night of May 27th, 1998. I gotta take a deep breath because I've had so much fun talking about Phil Hartman. No, yeah, like this roller coaster's been fucking fire, dude.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

Now you're fixing to fire the roller coaster. Fuck. Let me turn this way because I mean really. Yeah, go to Robert. Go to Robert. Great time here on this podcast. And now Lindsay's gonna destroy it right here and now. There's no tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

So Bren went out with her friend Christine Xander to an Italian restaurant called Buga de Beppo in Encino, which I said was their main home. That's where their main house was.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

I used to go there. That was a chain thing, dude. I used to love going there.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Where was it at? Around here. They had one in this was in Encino, California. We weren't there.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

Near Jacksonville. I used to go there all the time. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Was it good shit?

SPEAKER_02 47:36

Yeah, because you they they when you go in, you go through their kitchen and they have like the kitchen table there. And you can actually share.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

It was it like a fancy kitchen. I want to work in one of those just for like a week.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Very, very streamlined, full on it. Yes. Yes, chef. Yes. Oh my god. And they had the best bruchetta there. Oh man, so I love bruchetta. Oh, memories.

unknown 47:57

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

So they also, like I said earlier, they had a place in New York during the SNL years, but Encino was home. So the ladies go out and have some drinks and cocaine. Now I don't know if Christine used, but Bren definitely did. And Bryn was also prescribed Zoloft. And so she had quite the cocktail in her system. Now, after she leaves Christine, Bren goes to her friend Ron Douglas' house, who she used to date. And I have a real big problem with this because remember when I said uh Phil divorced Lisa, they remained friends. Well, after Bren and Phil's boy was born, Lisa sent them a congratulatory card and offered to babysit anytime, you know, yada yada, Aunt Lisa's here for you, blah, blah, blah. Well, Bryn writes her back this horrible, life-threatening letter and says to stay away from her family. And here she was at her ex's house. Double standard much. So she's at Ron's and he can clearly see that she is fucked up. And he he just really wanted to go to bed. But he let there, he let her sit there and ramble on about Phil and how Phil does this and Phil doesn't do that, and blah blah blah. And then she finally leaves. She goes home to Phil and fights with him for a while, and he he just goes to bed. That's how he handled the fights. After, you know, he let her go on for probably an insane amount of time. He would just go to bed, go to sleep, sleep at all. So sometime after 3 a.m., she returned to Ron's house, Hyazakite, and says to him, I've just killed Phil, and I don't know why. And she's like screaming at the top of her lungs. Now Ron didn't believe her until she dropped her purse and a 38 fell out.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

So now Ron is like, oh my god, and they drive back to the house where Ron can see a bullet hole between Phil's eyes.

SPEAKER_02 50:20

You just fucking killed an icon.

SPEAKER_00 50:23

And she had also shot him in the throat and in the chest.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

No, not more.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

I know. I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

I don't want no more, man. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

We just lost. And I I mean, like Phil. I wish you got to know Phil the way that I did. Because I was, like I said, I'm such a comedic nerd. Like you are a Star Wars nerd. I'm a comedic nerd. I'm a little later in life to the Star Wars nerdum, nerdum. But I've been a comedic nerd for a very long time.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

So everybody that's 10 years older than you are right now, this is huge.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

This was fucking heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

Gigantic iconic.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

I mean, I would even say five to ten years older than me because news radio, like, I was listening to a person cover this years ago who was born in 86, and they loved news radio. They watched it with their mom, you know what I mean? So it's news radio, even if you didn't catch him on SNL, news radio, Beal McNeil was the fucking GOAT.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Like the deal.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

He was the real deal, yes. Okay, so let me get there. Okay. Now Ron immediately called 911, and then Bryn locked herself in the room with Phil. Now, by the way, their kids have been in the house the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

No.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

Yes. As far as I have researched, neither one of them witnessed anything, but they sensed the drama. Like the little girl was found hiding under a table. You know, you know when something's awry in your house, no matter what age you are. So I'm not sure their exact ages at this time. They were both under 10.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

Yeah, but they've heard they heard yelling for an hour before all that happened.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

They had to hear three fucking gunshots.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

And then they heard three shots.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

And their mom left. Like she's what she's left twice now. Yeah. So the LAPD arrive and they get Ron and the kids out of the house. And not long after, there was another gunshot.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

The police break into the rim and find Bryn slumped over Phil. She had shot herself. Now, after finding out everything that was in Bryn's system at the time that all this went down, her brother filed a wrongful death suit against Pfizer for the Zoloft. Now it was settled out of court, but how could they be blamed? They didn't make her snort cocaine and drink the alcohol. And she was just a vile person to begin with.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

I wouldn't have given her shit.

SPEAKER_00 53:13

She's been in rehab more times than I've been to Taco Bell. Zoloft is I I I have I did not Google it. I'm so sorry, guys. And I'm not gonna Google again while we're on this episode because I've already gone there like five times, but I believe it's an antidepressant. Is that right?

SPEAKER_02 53:26

Yeah, Zoloft, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Yeah. Mixing all that, like I'm sure there was a warning label on this prescription that says Do not take cocaine with this shit because it's gonna make you feel uppity and happy, and you're not wanting to kill your fucking husband and yourself. So don't take cocaine with this because it will fucking happen. Oh, by the way, shots, shots, shots, shots, shots, shots. I'm gonna take a drink.

Aftermath Tributes And Hard Questions

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Oh my god, Jesse, that was very fucking brutal. But I'm sure it said, do not mix with alcohol. And do not mix with cocaine is just like the unspoken rule, okay? Like, don't do it. So, anyways, John Lovitt's this was Phil's, they were best friends, okay. Like Paul Rubens and John Lovitt were Phil's homies, homies. Yeah, like he had Wink and he had Brit, but Hollywood actor friends, it was John and it was Paul. But John would go on to blame Andy Dick, and I think he still does to this day because Andy had sold cocaine to Bryn at a Christmas party for a news radio cast, not knowing that she had a problem. And apparently this caused her, this sale that Andy made her caused her to relapse. And like I said, they were best friends, and I think John blaming Andy was just how he deals with the grief.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

Yeah, but where she was, she probably could have got that shit five feet away from Andy. You know, I mean somebody else. Oh, you don't have it, Andy? Okay, let me walk three steps and I'll get it from this guy.

SPEAKER_00 55:06

Now Andy is problematic and all and has been for a very long time, but you can't blame him for Bren's actions.

SPEAKER_02 55:15

No, I mean shouldn't have been a drug dealer still, but I mean Absolutely not. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Now, Phil and Bryn's children were raised by Bryn's sister and brother-in-law and have been reported to have very good lives to be thriving. Um, on news radio. And I remember this episode, like it was yesterday. Uh, they had an episode where Bill McNeil dies from a heart attack. And this episode actually aired on what would have been uh Phil's 50th birthday. Oh fuck. Yeah. Now John Lovett's he would join the show for its last season. And of course, SNL had a tribute episode commemorating all of his amazing characters and impressions because Phil Hartman was the tent. And I need everybody, right now, your assignment, your homework, go to YouTube and look everything Phil Hartman up that you can. I promise you it will make your day. Everything, especially anal retentive chef. But everything. Oh, he even played, I forgot to even write this down. So you remember um Sam Walton, the guy that like fucking invented Walmart? Okay, he would do a Sam Walton impression too.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

So I need to get my little SNL panties on so I can watch all of this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

Oh God. And so on the episode where uh, like I said, they did the whole so long, farewell of Edus and good night. The last part where it says, good blood. It's it's it's Chris Farley curled up to him, who we lost literally a year later.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Yeah, we did. Oh my gosh. I mean, I'm just trying to be like a little hard on this because I'm not putting it all together in my mind, but I guarantee when we watch this shit, I want to be a puddle of goo, dude.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

I know, and then when Gilda passed away years later, I know you don't know who that is, but some of our listeners may. Um, they did like a video of her and Phil dancing together. Oh god, I sobbed my fucking eyes out. Because like I said, y'all, I am an SNL fucking dork nerd.

SPEAKER_02 57:39

And I know when we rewatch all this stuff here this weekend, I'm gonna take Robert Plant with me. Yeah, bud. He's coming with me.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

Like, I just I love Phil Hartman's voice. It was just so I don't, I can't even, I can't do any. I'm really good at impressions, but I can't mimic his voice at ever. It's just it's just one of those things you have to witness for yourself.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

We want to hear it, Lindsay. Right now. We we want to hear it. We want to hear your impersonation right now.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

I can't, I I literally can't do Phil Hartman. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

We're not going any further. I'm just trying to pressure you and make you feel uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

I can't do Phil Hartman. So all of our listeners go to after this episode is over completely, go to YouTube and or or on your TV, on your phone, wherever you want to watch, and just look up all of Phil Hartman's stuff. Like, you'll love it so much. I promise.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

Check out an icon. But Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay, I know this is going to be bad watching it all with you, but anyhow, I just wanted to say uh thank you.

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Because you are greatly missed, and I'm sure millions, if not a billion, other people because he was an icon.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

And big shout out to Chris. Yes, Farley.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

Fucking Chris, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

And uh, yeah, cocaine is bad. It's a hell of a drug.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

It is a hell of a drug.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

And do not mix it with Zoloft and alcohol for the case. Rick James made it out.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

Rick James said, fuck your couch.

SPEAKER_00 59:26

Oh, and rest in peace, Charlie Murphy, who gave us Fucking A. Okay, so we gotta watch Chappelle's show too. Okay, we're gonna be all over the place. Charlie Murphy stories and Phil Hartman. Oh.

Music Break Run Little Rabbit Run

SPEAKER_02 59:38

Yes, we all need hee hee, ha ha, kikis and chuckle chuckles and all that stuff. But I want to play a band, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

Yes, please cleanse my palate.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

I am very much so allowed to play a band, and I want to bestow upon all of our listeners and Lindsay because she hasn't heard this shit yet. So it's uh it's DJ Roller, okay? He's a world famous DJ Roller. Yeah, world famous, world famous. DJ? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Sweet. I'm excited for this.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

And I don't even want to talk about what he actually does, but I found him on TikTok, okay? So uh we're gonna check this stuff out. This song is called Run Little Rabbit Run. Strap your fucking dancing shoes on the money.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:58

Get away, rabbit, get away, please run, run it a rabbit, run, sit around, run it a rabbit, run, run, rap, and run, run, here comes a man, shot, run, run it a rabbit, run Will Rabbit jumped up, looking by the ground, he said, yes sir, can I run a hound? Run, run a little rabbit, run, out there, run, run a little rabbit, run, will run the rabbit, run, run, here comes a mountain, run, run, little, rabbit, run. Will the rabbit don't took a look at my wild piece to yesterday? Run for I'll run, run little rabbit, run. I said run, run a little rabbit, run, will run the rabbit, run, run, here comes a man with a big shot, run, run little rabbit, run Well the rabbit, jump to look at my cold heat, yes, sir. I'm headed for my hole. Run, run little rabbit, run. Run little rabbit, run, Well, run little rabbit, run, run, here comes a man with a big shotgun, run, run little rabbit, run. We run little rabbit run run. Here comes a man with the big shotgun. Run, run little rabbit, run. I see the run, run little rabbit, run.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

Lindsay, what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

Oh my god. So, number one, I just got up and did a whole little jig as a stretch because we've been sitting for a minute. But I don't know why. But I just picture fucking Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

And they're getting after it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Or was it Elmer Fudd? Elmer Fudd.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:56

Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd. Getting after it, dude. Wide open, playing in fast forward.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

So I have gone ahead and did my admin work as well. I followed them on Spotify, and they are on Instagram. So the handle is DJS Mandolin on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Yeah, DJ's Mandolin.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:18

Yep. Yeah, DJ's Mandolin. Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. And uh they're from Richmond, Virginia.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

Dude, that shit hits so close to home for me. I grew up in Appalachia and love all of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:31

It's bluegrassy as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

Love it. Dude is just world renowned like for playing them fucking that little ass fucking thing, that little mandolin dude is rocking it, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

I mean, they're they're a group of musicians, like fucking straight up. I mean, great guests.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

Run, rabbit, run, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

Oh, and the the the huge contrast of the musicians that he's played with, it it'll blow your mind. So check out all the stuff that he's done. If you want to get a little jig on, play some DJ roller. I was jigging. Jigging, dude. Jigging.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

I mean, I had to stand up.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

I wanted to throw down some sawdust on this son of a bitch, dude. It was so good. Thank you so much. For I mean, it probably has hundreds of songs, I'm sure. And this was like a cover song. So, like this song goes back, you know. So a lot of bluegrass players play this song, and they all share and play a lot of songs, and they have originals or whatever. Iconic song, right here. Iconic bluegrass song. Iconic. Iclonic. This is almost like Rocky Top almost. I mean, it's one of them really sure enough, deep-seated songs.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:38

Loved it so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

Great job. So thank you so much. And thank you, Lindsay, and thank you, everybody. And uh man, I just hate that we lose icons sometimes, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

Senseless, senseless fucking cocaine, Zoloft, alcohol fueled murder. Just she was just fucking a hater. Yeah, Brynn was a fucking hater. Garbage actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

Yeah. Sometimes you just don't need to latch on to your decisions of staying with because he was trying to run Little Rabbit Run and she got gone.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

Phil had his relationship issues. We're not going to deny that, but he didn't deserve any of what he got from Brent.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

No, he was boosting her up the whole time, trying to keep her fucking mellow jello dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:24

I mean, and it's like he used to just boast about her so much, too, being like, look at this beautiful woman next to me.

Where To Find Us And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

Yeah, my 10-year younger arm candy, and he's just over there just living it up, and she couldn't hear no different. She just thought she was God's gift to entertainment, and she was didn't have the talent. So I could get it. Just do not feed into that. Bust the bubble. Sometimes people need to know the word no. Yeah. And that's what it boils down to. So if anybody likes our little story over here and all of our banter and all of our bullshitting and you know, the music and the the music and the the cocktails and whatever else we do, check us out. Lindsay's gonna tell you some things.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

All right. So our main website is drinkaboutsomething.site and on Instagram, we are drinkabout something. If you want to send us an email, we are drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. If you want to check out our lives that we do once a week, this week we're gonna be on Friday. So you just have to you just have to follow me to ch to to to see when we're gonna be live. Um so that's drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay and Jesse, where are we on YouTube?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:33

Just check out Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y, and you can see us traveling and doing our own little thing, and we do the lives and uh goof boot all the day long.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Yeah, we're pretty adventurous um for you know small town small town hick Fluridians. Hee-haw.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

We deserve the bluegrass. We this we haven't really gotten off into the bluegrass so much until now, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

That just reminded me. So Bryn had um, I think I don't know if she was actually she had auditioned to be a hee-haw girl. Remember the girls that popped up in the cornfield? Remember hee-haw?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:07

Yee-haw or hee-haw? Heehaw. Hee Haw! Ye-haw. It was Yeehaw, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

God, I love that fucking show, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:13

At the barn and Roy Clark and his fucking banjo.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:16

God damn it, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

Minnie Pearl with all of her tags still hanging off.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:20

That was the highlight of my week in my youth, was Yeehaw, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Yeah. Loved it, loved it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:27

Yeehaw and Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:29

You know what I found out for next season? We may be hooking up with a record label that has some music. That would be cool. That would be uh we did some stuff with Curtain Call when we first started up and supported them. And and so you can go back in our first season and check out Curtin Call Records, and I might be hooking up with a record label for season three. So that'll be fun. And I might even be having maybe a folk singer actually on our podcast here in a little while. Yeah, have him call in and talk about how they hooked up and did their little folk music, and it's really cool. Like, I love you know, a lot of rock and rollers and stuff. They all will play all the heavy music, and then you got people like Tom Rello that rock the stage for so many years, and he's like, you know what the real heavy shit is? Folk music. And I'm like, what he you know, and then in the interview that I watched, I but I didn't actually talk to him.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:17

Oh, folk music is metal as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:18

Folk music is metal as fuck because it's so deep, you know, and it just all portrays out of a person and a guitar, and it's just so just raw, stripped down, just fucking it's really in your face. I don't know why. The older that you get though, the more that that that style of music can hit home. So that'll be fun. Anyhow, Lindsay, I want to get the hell out of here. We're gonna watch some SNL and we're gonna hang out. I hope you guys have a great Friday.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:45

The best.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

And all the great of all the greats, and we'll see you guys on the next one. We love you. Bye.