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A missing kid case is devastating on its own, but it hits differently when it starts with something painfully normal: a teenager heading out to get a haircut and buy Christmas gifts. We talk through the Daniel Morcombe case with the respect it deserves, including how a routine bus stop and a sudden change in plans can create the exact opening a predator looks for. 

Then we move from grief to action. We highlight the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, “Day for Daniel,” and why child safety education works best when it’s simple, repeated, and matched to a child’s age. We also share how we approach those conversations at home, because awareness is not just a headline, it’s a skill kids can practice. 

We also revisit the story of Dr. Jeni Haynes, a survivor whose life and advocacy have helped many people understand dissociative identity disorder (DID) without myths or sensationalism. We point you toward the documentary “We Are Jenny,” her book “Girl in the Green Dress,” and the hard truths about trauma, memory, and what it takes for someone to finally be believed. 

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Pride Vibes And Unedited Setup

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Hey. Hey, Lindsay. Hey, Jesse. Oh my gosh. Okay, I gotta get a little closer here. Hey. A little bit closer. There we go. I want everybody to see my Atlantis Moore set shirt.

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I want everybody to see my Tu Wong Fu.

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Thanks for everything. Julie Newmar. Yes. Happy Pride, everybody.

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What's up? What's up, everybody? And we're doing some recaps in here.

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Yeah, welcome to Drunk About Something where we are. Oh my God. Raw, uncut, and unedited. Are we now? Let me get this microphone this way. Raw, uncut, and unedited. And so this is our little. It's funny because it comes out before the episode that we record, but this is after we have recorded the episode and we've had our drinks.

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Yeah, we have to play the movie game.

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This is this is on re this is our refill. And uh today we are we apologize. Uh we haven't been able to do live or recaps in a little bit. We've just been really, really busy. Yeah. But we have covered two cases. Well, one it was a new case and one was a revisit. So we'll start with our most recent new case, uh, which was about a young man named Daniel Morcombe.

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Yeah, so grab your cups, put on a little something, rattle it around, and uh join the party. Yeah.

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Okay, so first of all, what are you having to drink?

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This is full-on Smoke Wagon right here.

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Smoke wagon.

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Yeah.

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And I've got my peach mango mixture with a peach vibe Celsius.

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Yeah.

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Let's keep the energy going.

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Nice. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna just hold this like we're sitting by a campfire.

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And tell them all terrible stories.

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The horrible stories.

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So, hold on, I have to check this message. This is from the mother of a child that is at our house. It's very important.

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This is what we do. Because I ain't editing shit on this one.

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No, it's unedited. Unedited, can't edit. Okay, so I gotta go tell Vaughn to go home. Hold on.

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So, anyhow, we're drink about something and we do true crime and all the stories. Lindsay likes to destroy me every week. Comes out every Friday, the actual story part. And the last one that's coming out, like this Friday, was horrific. Oh my goodness. Silas. Lindsay's yelling at kids, and I love it. Get, get, get to your house. Quit playing. But um, and that's what we do. We're just uh we keep the kids outside while we're doing all this stuff because we don't want them to know about all this stuff until they get old enough. We're in a cul-de-sac. Yeah, we got that little uh cul-de-sac type neighborhood. Yeah.

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Headphones are back on.

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Hey, Lindsay's back. I don't have to talk anymore. I can just be like over here, just you know, being me,

Daniel Morcombe Disappearance Recap

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right?

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So Daniel Morricombe and his family are from the Sun Coast in uh Queensland, Australia. And Daniel was a very good boy, he was a twin, and he wanted to go Christmas shopping. He was coming up on 14 years old. He and his twin. And uh his birthday was in December, Christmas was coming up. He wanted to go get a haircut and go Christmas shopping.

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This is the part that I don't know about recaps. Okay, so reliving it.

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Yeah. So Daniel goes to the bus stop that he has taken, I don't know how many times, and he is waiting for the bus. Now, his brother, who was gonna go with him, his twin, decided to stay home because it was raining a little bit. But Daniel was like, nope, the rain's not gonna stop me from getting my errands done. Let me go.

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It's so wholesome.

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Like the whole trip, everything they're doing, it makes it so much sadder. Yeah, so much sadder. Do I need to get this? Is that better on my sound? Yeah, do whatever it's cool. Well, we had sound issues last time, so I don't want it to be destroyed. Yeah. So Daniel's waiting for a bus, and the bus that was on the way was uh something happened and it would it broke down. And no, so they sent a backup bus to pick up the passengers that were on the broke down bus, and then another bus that was gonna pick up new passengers was on the way. Well, an evil vial disgusting predator um was waiting in the wings. He offered Daniel a ride, and Daniel was never heard from again, and it would take many, many, many years for this person to be caught. But he was, and uh I'm gonna I I really I don't want to cry. Just in the disgusting situations, I mean all of that was what's crazy is so Brett Peter Cowan was the predator, and there was another predator in the same area that was looked at. What was his name? Douglas Jackaway. Yeah, what the so he was looked at for years as well, and it took them a very long time.

The Foundation And Child Safety

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Took them a very long time, and what they did was um, so the parents, his uh Bruce and Denise, they really did the work in tr in in everything. They created the Daniel Morcomb Foundation. Check that out. Yes, and I've saved it in our calendar, the day for Daniel this year. So it's the last Friday in October every year, but this year is Friday, October 30th.

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Yeah, and in that podcast, I tagged all that. So you can go back and check out this whole story.

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And we donated to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, which is it's basically just a foundation that helps people in need, it helps youths in need, it helps them understand signs of predators, basically. It helps that it gives them awareness.

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So if you're a parent and you're just like, I'm really not sure on how to convey this, we can always use those platforms as well. And because you have different stages of conveying information. Like before she talked about this, she had a conversation with our son and was conveying all this information to him at his at his level. At his level, he's 12. Yeah. So but that's you gotta have that awareness. Daniel's age, yeah. And in turn of all the all the things that just completely just destroyed us in the middle of that podcast. Every everything that we talk about, we try to bring in something positive at the end of it where you can actually teach people around you, younger people, because you know, experience, period. We we grew up and we were completely oblivious a few times in life. Uh more than a few. Yeah, and you're just like stuck in weird situations where it could turn into something like this, especially if you're like a city kid where you're taking buses and had done it many, many, many times. You're doing something amazing. And you're just being a wholesome little kid.

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So he just wanted to buy things for his family.

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Yeah. It's so it's so sad.

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So everything that I mean I'll Hey Bailey girl, I don't think I see all your loves.

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I don't think Lindsay wants to get into all the outcome of all of that.

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Yeah, just go back and listen to the episode.

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You can go check it out. And she has another one she wants to recap as well because we're kind of just piling up some stuff right here.

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Well, I just I wanted I do want to plug the website. So it's Danielmorecombe.com.au, where you can donate. You can find resources, especially if you're in the Australia area. Um, this is something that Australia as a continent, they have a Daniel, they have a um Child Safety Week, and then they celebrate day for Daniel every year. In October, right? In October, last Friday of October, once again. Um, and this year, 2026, it will be Friday, October 30th. Mark that in your calendars.

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Yes.

Wage War Concert Detour

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Um, so the next case that we're gonna recap is a revisit because we did have a concert last weekend.

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And uh yeah, hashtag wage war. Wage war. Yeah, cheers to wage war. They put on the best show I think we've ever seen.

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This was our fifth time.

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Five. Yes, we got so many more to go. Yes.

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Oh, yeah.

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Alligators, the crowd surfers on the alligators.

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Yeah, check out my video. Um, yeah, check out my video if you're on TikTok right now, or if you're not on TikTok, follow me. Drink about something pod underscore Lindsay. Um, in my little yeah. I did I post so I've got many videos. I'm gonna post some more, but I had to post the alligators, man.

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Dude, that was so hot.

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Death song Death Roll. They threw out the blow up alligators, they're O'Cowboys. They know all about the swamp. And he's like, Yo, ride this shit. And I caught a crowd surfer on an alligator. Yeah. Oh, and on my comments, somebody said, Thank you for posting this. I'm gonna send it to the guy on the alligator. And then the guy from the alligator is like, Thank you, I'm the guy on the alligator. Full circle. Full circle. Yes, yes, yes. That's what I do it for.

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I do it for the metal community, it's just so cool, man. So cool. We had such the it was the greatest time. We had the best time. We met up the city. Because there was a dude that had his little daughter on his shoulders the whole time. And boom, there's a crowd surfer behind me, but a blockade in front of me. I didn't know what to do other than tote this dude. Just toss him. I mean, we didn't really toss him just kind of put him over the rail.

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I'm just like, I got this human all on me. Because we're on the rail, we're on, we're at the rail behind the rail. So the the little area in front of us was basically where the pit was. And due to Jesse's shoulder and Landon had his glasses on, we didn't really want a pit pit. And they opened up big ones like right in front of us. So we were in a perfect spot for us. I was on Cody's side. Love you, Cody. You sound like an angel. And guess what? Guess what? Later on that night, I'm listening when I'm posting my videos, and we're looking to him, and Cody's singing, and Jesse's like, he really does sound like an angel, doesn't he? And I'm like, Yes, bro, man.

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Well, at the end of every time he finishes up a song and he's the lead vocal at that time, I'm like, that's my man.

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That's my man.

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And I was like, no, that's my man. I kind of started that at Rockville, so I think I'm gonna do that this whole year. This is my 25th.

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This is my husband, but Cody's my boyfriend. Yeah.

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No, he was my man.

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So, anyways, love you, wage war. On to, so we have we did a revisit

Jenny Haynes And Understanding DID

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of the Jenny Haynes case. Not uh, like I said, because she's got things happening right now. She just came out, uh a documentary just came out about her case. So Jenny Haynes has NPD or what has been renamed is DID. So NPD is more multiple personality disorder, D.I.D. is disassociate disassociate. Disassociative identity disorder. Yep. And this is a real condition, it's not bullshit. Um, and her book, Girl in the Green Dress, just came out on audiobook. So I have been listening. I'm about halfway through. It's a rough listen. Um, because the things that happened to her, the abuse that happened to her from her own father, um, was never made public because it's so horrific. But she does go into great detail in the book, so it has been a very rough listen. And I I'm not even a person that is a victim of that crime. Thank everything, the universe, whatever. Um, but her story deserves to be heard. Um, and she is a full supporter of us sharing her story. Right. She has now shared our coverage of her story twice. And make sure you listen to her documentary, We Are Jenny. She has created over 2,500 altars to help her deal with the trauma that happened to her starting at four years old.

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Yeah, over 26 or 50 something. But like, okay, so if you're a true crime enthusiast and you're really not grasping the whole understanding of people with multiple person the idea or multiple personalities or whatever, they create how this actually transpires into everything. Go back and check out the podcast because she just shared it too. And and she shared it on her social. She supports us and she's blowing up right now. She's on she has our merch. All the yeah, she's on all the mo the major platforms, HBO Max, everything is on everything. And you can check out her documentary and our story, which is a little bit deeper dive, and Lindsay has been diving even deeper into this. And I I I don't feel like that this particular case will ever go away for us because of the understanding and sharing awareness that children can have over traumatic things where they create different people in their own minds, especially if you're as brilliant as as she is.

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Um it's just it's so sad. It's like so sad.

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And and that is a real understanding for the for the word they. Because like she has so many people in her own mind, and she has so many things.

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And this is something that I didn't talk about that I listened to in the book. So she also she had non-gender people in her head.

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Yeah. She had full armies of armies of people just that were taking on these traumatic things.

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It's I think she called them Oh my god. I can't remember the exact terminology.

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You gotta take another sip.

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But it was basically, you know, a they them. Um, I think she called them non-girls, is what I wanted to. No, that's not right. That is not right.

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Oh, we're gonna have to bring that back up later on. Yes. So yeah.

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So she she had male, female, all ages. Uh, most of them did stop in uh in the teenage year area, but the main one was Symphony. That was her very first altar that was created.

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The conductor of all of all of the people symphony uh is the trooper.

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Symphony is that girl um who endured the most. And the things that Jenny's father did to her, I'm gonna try to word this very carefully, um made her body a crime scene. And um that is how they were able to convict this man of the crimes decades later. Decades.

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Yeah, and poor sweep.

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Sweep was her little hand soccer.

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Her dad would take it and put it in the garage and be like, if you want sweep back, you have to come in the garage with me. So that's that kind of story, if you understand where we're going. And it's just check out all the deep dive that we do into that. Follow Jenny. If you really want a good understanding, she is a one of the most articulate, brilliant human. She's a doctor now, she's like Dr.

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Jenny and she has a PhD in psychology because she wanted to know what was wrong with her mentally.

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Yeah.

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Um, and it's really sad because the abuse that she started enduring at such a young age, she didn't understand anything that was happening to her whatsoever. So it doesn't, it takes her a very even she so the abuse was from ages four to eleven. Can you imagine? Oh, so we do talk about in the episode that we it because my research, there was no understanding of why her mother um wasn't aware of what was going on. So from the book, I found out that her mother was actually um on medication. Oh, so she was just kind of several different types of medication. She was like working home and just she was disassociating herself from pretty much everything. And which might be what where the traits come from. Well, when genetically stopped the medicine that she had been taking, it was like a light bulb went off. Like everything. And that is when her mother left her father, but her father kept Jenny's older sister.

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Yeah, and they actually excommunicated him from Australia, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I'm saying after Jenny and her brother and her mom moved away from her father, because they had they had lived in the UK, then they lived in Australia, they moved back to UK.

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This is new to me.

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Yeah. So they moved back to the UK, and then Jenny, her brother, and her mother left her father, but she had an older sister. So they all moved back to Australia. The older sister developed this very strange relationship with her father that nobody understood. And then later on it came out that he was again another with the older sister. Fuck evil, vile, disgusting man.

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And the thing about understanding D.I.D. is like she was setting aside so many horrific things that happened to so many parcels of her mind that she wouldn't actually take it into herself where she could actually function as a human.

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And hold on. Let me address this.

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What's this? What happened?

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Okay, so on this on this particular episode, we are this is the Drink About Something podcast where we have drinks, we talk about true crime, and uh we plug music at the end of the episode. And these this recap right here is about Daniel Morcombe and Jenny Haynes. Okay, so I'm sorry, I'm responding. If you're on YouTube, I'm responding to uh TikTok live. Yes.

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I'm glad you can see that because my old ass can't see that shit from here. I'm just saying I can't I see everybody coming in here and I I I

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appreciate it. Share and do all the things we want to build all this together, you know, because we're sharing a lot of awareness.

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And the uh the documentary about Jenny Haynes' case is called We Are Jenny.

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Yes, and you can always go back and you can you can read uh Girl in the Green Dress.

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And Girl in the Green Dress is the book that Jenny wrote on YouTube. Well, what's also amazing about that book is her her amazing psychiatrist that finally listened to her after many, many, many, many, many tries.

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Can you name?

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Um huh?

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Can you name the psychiatrist?

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Yes. Dr. George Blair West has been her her her guide her guide for many years after she went through a journey before she could get the right one to understand her, believe her, and not be horrified. Right. Because I do talk about in the episode in the original episode that there were times where she actually had to comfort her own psychiatrist.

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Really?

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You remember that, right? I told you that in the episode.

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Yeah, she was like trying to explain everything, and he was just he was distraught too about everything because snapping into different people at different ages a lot to grab.

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So our podcast is Drink About Something. Jenny's documentary is We Are Jenny. Sorry, I'm responding on TikTok if you were listening on YouTube right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, we're we we do we do multiple multitasking and uh drinkabout something.site. All the links are on there if you check out the 2500.

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And then Jenny Haynes, you can follow her on all her socials. It's Jenny with an I. Dr. Jenny Haynes. I'm so sorry. Doctor, yes, Dr. Jenny Haynes. And her documentary, once again, is We Are Ginny.

SPEAKER_02

And to break it down is like, where does it come into full on, like where your your humanity is? What if you just can tap into that side of your brain where you can be that articulately amazing to be able to hang on to every little aspect? And that that's what really breaks down Lindsay when she's going back and listening to all this stuff.

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You got a human that can remember something from the age of 10 down to the smells, the colors, the and she had altars that would block out the smells because the smell of her father grossed her out so much that another altar would come away and take away her smell.

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And you're assigning people in your own mind to be able to hang on to that to where it doesn't bother you as a as a as a functioning human being. Right. And that's where my understanding came into play. And Jenny actually said, Jesse, you get it. I was just like, She sure did.

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And I talked to her just the other day and we were sharing, and she shared our stuff, and I'm just like, Well, and she told us uh several months ago about the documentary coming up and said it would reveal more. More. But she couldn't talk about it at the time. And so we have been anticipating this documentary.

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So much.

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We have been anticipating this documentary. We watched it as soon as it became available on HBO Max, and we had time to actually watch it. And um, so yeah, just uh Google We Are Ginny, and you can find exactly wherever you're at in the world that you're able to watch it.

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Yeah, and the case subject matter, like really, she had disassociated so much that she even signed for her own father to come back and live with her later on in life. And guess what? Daddy tried to do that bullshit again. And then she was done. Scratch that bullshit off. Then there's her full realization.

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You want to yeah, because like I said, her altars would hold the memories of the abuse. Right. So when she was just Jenny, Jenny tried to let bygones be bygones because Jenny herself tried to forgive. She was tried to forgive and forget and had she was she lost time. And that's something that people with altars. Yeah. People with altars, they lose time.

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If you're stuck in so many different people that are all this is happening in your own mind, and you're just pushing this away in different lockers in your own mind, you don't even know where you're at in time. Yes, I get that, Lindsay. And we've been there, we we did another a couple, we've done two now with the DID stuff. And you can check out the horrific side where they're being criminals and using that, and and being in that aspect, and you can check out the victim side, which we completely support Jenny, and we're all about everything that she's done.

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100%.

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So 100%. Oh, what a recap. I mean, just being able to reshare this and then being able to convey this for y'all. You can go back and check out all of our episodes and really dive deep into some of this stuff on both both sides and the understanding of the world.

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It was a lot realistening to our original coverage on her case, and then watching her documentary, and then listening to her book. I don't want to take away at all from what she's been through. No, but just as a listener and a researcher, I'm telling you, it has been the roughest um content and story that I've ever taken in.

SPEAKER_02

Like it just it it's and you haven't you could not handle the book.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm telling you. I would be a puddle. Could not handle the book.

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A complete puddle. And you gotta you gotta you gotta imagine 2,500 different aspects of this that uh a human can can dive off into and and switch into. It's a whole lot. What are we looking at

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here?

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I'm not sure.

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Yeah, yeah. Keep following. We're kind of boomerish about all this. We're figuring it out as we go. We promise.

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Yeah, been off the hip, we're not ready to just join lives while we're actually recording two times simultaneously.

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Yeah, because we have uh TikTok live going and YouTube going. I'm so sorry.

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I mean, I love the aspect. I mean, we could get you on here and we could just talk for days. And we're recording like two different parts at the same time. But hit us up if you're interesting.

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Yeah, we would be more than happy to have y'all on. We'll answer questions, we'll do all the things. And we're just still learning as we go. Yeah.

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