Drinks, Catching Up, Friday Vibes

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Hey Jesse.

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Hello, Lindsay.

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What are you having to drink today?

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I got uh apple white claw and pineapple. Put it together.

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Okay. The green apple white claw. Yeah. And pineapple vista bay.

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Yeah. Right? Apple apple. What are you having to drink over there?

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I have a blood orange white claw, a lime vista bay, and the retro vibe Celsius.

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Oh.

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In the cup.

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The Geekville cup. All right. Hell yeah.

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Hell yeah, you want to get that intro going?

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Yeah. Um, let's get started. All right now, right off rip.

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Woo! Woo! Woo!

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Happy Friday, everybody. Yeah.

Feeling Old And Fashion Cycles

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I had a discovery though.

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What?

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Just seconds ago.

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What?

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I'm sitting over here. Well, we're both sitting over here, like at the kitchen table, right? And I found raisins that used to be grapes. Yeah. And the table. It was like, okay, we had the kids over last night.

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And they love grapes.

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Apparently they had left a grape in the crack of the seat. And then I found two of them. I was like, what? What are these?

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Yeah.

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They're grapes.

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They're almost raisins.

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Yeah. Grandparents. What made you feel old today? Type thing, right? For sure.

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So speaking of which, what made you feel old this week? Oh, I gotta hand them the notes.

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Oh, how many times have you watched fashion come in and out? Like on commercials and things. It's like, dude, like our fashion has come in and out like three times.

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Well, I remember my parents telling me that when I was younger. And you know, I wasn't listening. I was like, whatever, you old farts. Um, but they were like, yeah, like some of the stuff y'all are wearing, we wore it. Cause I just pictured them wearing like prairie dresses and shit, which have come back around.

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Yeah, they did.

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No, so your parents are 70s, so it was like well, they were born in the 50s, so yeah, they were grown-ish in the 70s, yeah.

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Yeah, early adulthood in the 70s.

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So I mean, they graduated in 72. There you go.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. Like, their high school graduation years was in the 70s, so it was like discounted came back three times.

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Fashion, man. Oh my god.

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Yeah. So we kind of skipped the 80s for us, but it was still cool. You know, we grew up in the 80s, but we weren't adults like high school.

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We had the weird child version of 80s, though.

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Yeah, like, what is this? Mom, why can't I listen to Motley Crue? Yeah, you turn that stuff off. That's nasty.

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Oh my god, listen, Motley Crue would have just been straight up like Satan entered the room, and we listened to shit way heavier than Motley Crue could ever even dream of being.

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But that was the only time that my mom ever got onto me was like I had a fucking Motley Crue tape.

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But your mom listens to all kinds of shit.

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I don't know. That's the only time she ever got onto me about music in my whole life. Motley Crue. Motley Crue? I swear to God.

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Girls, girls, girls. That Motley Crue?

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That exact one. Yes. That exact one.

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I mean, yeah, their lifestyle was insane, but their music wasn't that big of a deal. I guess because they had that song that was really controversial, shout at the devil, but they were shouting at the devil. Like they were at shouting at him, right?

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Yeah, I guess.

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Or to the devil. I don't know. I'm really not a fan of Molly Cruz.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I'm more of a methods of mayhem kind of fan if it comes to Tommy Lee. So just saying.

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Yeah, Tommy Lee's gross.

Loud Cars And Calling The Cops

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But what made me feel old this week? Um, so I was walking the other day, and we were, I was almost done with my route. I was back on our little side street here before we get into the neighborhood, which is a connector road. You know, you're not supposed to drive very fast down it. And there was this guy in this like wannabe, like a little like a project type race car. And so he goes, he flies down the street, uh, going one way really, really fast. And he's it's loud. So I'm I'm irritated already because you know this is what makes me feel old. So then he goes again, and now I'm even a little more irritated. I'm like, what the fuck? Then he goes by two more times louder and faster. Like uh the road guys had just done the little median, so like there was and like shit's flying in my face, and I'm hot and I'm sweaty. It's Florida. I've been walking for 45 minutes already. I'm fucking pissed. I was ready to call the cops. I'm gonna call the HOA on you, sons of bitches. Well, we don't have that, but I was ready to call the cops. We live in a school district, sir. Yes, school's out, but fucking hell, the speed limit is 30. He was going 50 at least. Now, when I was telling a coworker about it, they were like, Did it ever dawn on you that maybe they just thought you were hot? And I'm like, ew, no, because I'm sweaty, I'm gross, and I'm got a weighted vest on, arm weights on, and no, they were just being a fucking douchebag. And then come to find out they live in our neighborhood.

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I just heard them rev up, literally.

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No, that's not them. That's not them. No, they live, uh yeah, y'all don't see our hands, but they live in the opposite direction.

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I'm pointing over there behind us because there is a like a race car type sounding car over there all the time. I don't mind it. I like that. I'm curious. I hate it. I love the gear. I fucking hate it.

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Yeah, I hate any loud vehicles.

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But five minutes, literally, not even five. Another minute to the left of us when you come out of the neighborhood. You can go down this long ass country road where nobody's really at. So why don't you do that, right?

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Where? Sisters Welcome. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's called Sisters Welcome, yeah.

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Yeah, that one. Just do that one.

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But yeah, that made me feel old because I was ready to call the fucking cops.

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Yeah, I went straight to carry area with a bunch of kids. So yeah, concerned parents type situation. I get it.

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Well, not only that, people are out walking their dogs and kids. I mean, we have we have a nephew that rides his bike. Uh, you know, in this, I mean, we you know, our kid rides his bike.

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Yeah. Well, dogs are kids.

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They are, yeah. Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, there's animals and children alike, and I did not appreciate the fucking freshly mowed grass flung in my face because they were going that fast.

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They were blowing up all the shit on the city.

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It's the city, sir. But yeah, that's what made me feel old this week.

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Okay.

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I was ready to call the cops.

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I get it. At our age, I get it. Like, you know, get off my lawn, you sons of bitches.

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Well, I'm I'm just not down with the loud cars. I just I never really have been. And then when you fly by me four different times, no. I like it. There's nothing cute about that. But I'm I'm telling you right now, there's very few females our age, maybe younger, I don't know. But there's very few females our age that think that that's cute.

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I'm like the chick in Talladega Nights up in the booth.

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Molly Shannon?

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Yeah.

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I can feel it. Oh, running up my leg.

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She was like, huh, huh?

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No. I've not I've never been about that life. Um, but like even back in the day, like in our day when bass was a huge deal, I never really liked it.

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No, I mean, I liked it. I like I like the loud.

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I pretended like I did to fit in, but I never but not really so much of the bass.

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I mean, I was playing metal music, so I wanted to hear some cool ass shit.

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I mean, to be fair, like corn and and lump biscuit and shit like that, you know. But I mean, like it that you don't have to hear it around the corner, and your car sounds like shit.

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Yeah, and you pull up to the gas station and blare that shit.

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Now, there was this one uh vehicle when I worked at McDonald's way back in the day, they they were they drove a hearse. Yes, I remember that. You remember the hearse? Okay. When they would come through drive-thru, like all of our windows would rattle. It was just it was not a good time for anybody.

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You're like just take your fucking McNuggets and go, dude. Come on.

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And what's crazy is like I love hearing bass at a festival. I I mean, like, when Cypress Hill, god damn, you know.

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Yeah, DJ Lorde.

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All the bass drops at a festival setting. I'm all I don't know why. I just don't really like I don't I don't think it's cute in a car. Yeah, I don't I don't know.

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All the DJs, that's number one for me.

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DJ Lord is. DJ Lord is the Lord of DJs. That is really good.

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Yes, good stuff.

Who Sarah Everard Was

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I'm sorry, we are stalling because Jesse doesn't know. So he drew this name out of a bag. And uh today we're drinking about Sarah Everard, and it's not a good time. We had a good time last week. This is not a good time.

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Not good times? Not a good time.

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You're gonna you're gonna want to fucking rage against the machine. But here we go. Okay, you ready? No, okay. So Sarah Everard was born in Surrey, England. We're over in the UK this week in June of 1987 to Sue and Jeremy Everard, and she was the youngest of three. Her older sister and brother are Katie and James, and the family actually moved to York sometime in her years before school started. Her family was very tight-knit. Uh, Jeremy was a university professor, and Sue worked for a charity organization like salt of the earth type people. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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She attended Fulford School in her youth and then went on to study human geography at St. Cuthbert Society at uh Durham University.

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You're nailing it, dude. You put all that together just perfectly. Look at that. Ball gown, dude. Ballgown.

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She graduated from university in 2008 and moved to London to work in marketing and became an accounts manager at a digital media agency. This was like her dream job. She was living her British dream.

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Yeah.

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I can't say the American dream. She was living the British dream, okay? So she started dating a guy named Josh Loth, and he was also in marketing. So, you know, just compatible on every level. Sarah was sweet and smart, creative. She loved to sew, she loved to cook, she loved to travel. She had been on extensive trips to South America, South Africa, Southeast Asia, and had plans for more travel in the future. But as we all know, in 2020, the world shut down due to COVID-19.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. What were we doing that weekend?

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That exact weekend, I'm sure we're hanging out on the back porch goof booting. I think.

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Are you kidding me right now? You don't remember. I'm so pissed.

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What? What were we doing?

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We went on our anniversary trip to Universal.

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Oh, yes, right.

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So, right. So, our plans was we went Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, and we were and to come home on Sunday, and everything was shutting down that Sunday.

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That's right. And I couldn't taste the fucking butterbeer. Fuck.

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Yeah, he didn't know why. He had no idea why. He's like, Lindsay, I can't taste this. Like we went and ate jerk chicken and Jamaican food. And he was like, I'm really concerned because I can't taste this food. And I was like, What? Like, I thought you were crazy. I was like, what do you mean you don't taste it?

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I fucking thought I was crazy too, dude. I've never not tasted anything. And no matter if I was sick or whatever, cold, whatever, I could still taste it, you know? Never have not tasted it. Well, yeah.

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And I mean, to be fair, this was before we knew anything. Like we weren't even masked up yet at this point. This was just, they were just gonna shut down for a little bit to flatten that curve. But uh, like I said, so Sarah's plans for more travel were on hold for a while. Now in the UK, things were a lot different than our restrictions here in the US, especially here in Florida. Like down here in Florida, in Florida, especially, I mean, even in Lake City, we opened most shit back up at 25% after just six weeks of shutdown. And it wasn't much longer for most to be open at 75%. And at the end of 2020, start of 2021, most things are at full capacity. That's here in our state, especially in our city. Now, Gainesville was restricted a little bit longer because we would go over there. Yeah, and a lot of the restaurants that we normally eat at would have only have like outdoor seating, things like that, or you had to, you know, may wear a mask. It was, you know, y'all remember, y'all remember. Well, on March 3rd of 2021, London was on its third lockdown. Third. And the rules were up in the air, like nobody really knew what was going on. Uh, there was some curfews in place, and you really weren't supposed to be out unless it was deemed absolutely necessary. A lot of shit was just not clear. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just very strange, very strange rules. Now, Sarah was 33 at this time. She had gone to her friend Rose's house, and this was about two and a half miles from her flat, and was heading home around 9 p.m. Her route home was a very well-lit, well-traveled route by locals. There was CCTV everywhere. At 9 13, she calls her boyfriend Josh on her way home, and they talk for around 14 minutes. She was wearing a green rain jacket, navy pants, they had like a diamond pattern on them, and a white beanie, green earphones, and of course, a COVID mask. The last time she is seen on surveillance is 9 28 p.m.

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Hold up, Lindsay.

British Chinese Food Detour

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Real quick. Before we get off into this, because I know you're fixing to drop the fucking shit already, and I wasn't ready. What about the Chinese food? Oh God. What about the Chinese food? Come on, tell us about it.

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So last night I was we had the grandbabies and we had just gotten them to sleep. It was like a really early night. So I was like, I picked up my phone and started scrolling while they were resting and shit. And I came upon a British Chinese food TikTok. And I didn't like it never has dawned on me that Chinese food is different. I mean, I know it's different in China, but it's never dawned on me that the the production and the plate presentation and the items are different in other countries. And Jesus. Britain's are y'all okay? Because y'all need to come over here or to Mexico because I looked up Mexican Chinese food after that, and theirs is very similar to ours.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Um, I y'all, y'all ain't had it yet. I'm sorry.

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I mean, I can't help it, but it just came to my head. I was like, I have to talk a little bit about British Chinese. Yeah, oh so bland looking. Oh, and I I get it, like your palate's kind of used to whatever you got going on, but we're way versatile over here. Cultured even when it comes to like food.

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We have a lot more of their culture in our country, I do believe, living in our country. I do know that the most most Chinese places here are different versions or a completely different version of what they actually eat in China.

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Yeah. Um Asian period. I mean, it might be like, you know.

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Well, each country over there has different style food. Obviously, yeah. Because they do over here where we buy it, you can consume it, because we're not traveling over there just yet.

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Vietnamese is my favorite, really, but it's really good.

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Korean is mine. Yeah, well, because it's spicy.

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I like when we went when we went to Chinatown, so that's like the second biggest population of Asian people.

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Now I'm gonna say the Chinese food in New York was worth the trip alone.

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Yeah. Now everything that we're not like worlds different than what we have here. It was just better, you know what I'm saying? Like so good.

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Like, I mean, like we weren't even that hungry when we went in there and we devoured every bite because they served everything that we ordered, they served it to us sharing style. And I we there was no leftovers. Like we ate it all. It was good. It was so damn good. It was so fucking good.

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But it wasn't like leaps and bounds, it wasn't like completely years difference, like a whole different cultural difference of the version of Chinese food compared to what they do in Great Britain. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it's like you're looking at what they have and what's the first one.

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They had these fried chicharrons that were like prawn flavored. I don't know. It was it was it's just exactly what you would imagine British version of Chinese food would be.

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Yeah, and I love a lot of British food too, though.

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I mean, so But you guys gotta follow uh follow uh what's his name? Mullet Review on TikTok.

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Okay, yeah, it goes to the buffet.

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So he is where where do we leave him at? Day 25. He is going to every Asian style buffet until he gets food poisoning, yeah. And he hasn't done it yet.

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Then why do you go there, dude, and you get pizza?

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But yeah, like it's not even fair, mullet, because you are eating pizza and french fries. What did I say? And pigs in a blanket.

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He's sitting there eating a piece of pizza, and he I'm like, that's why your dad calls you Joe Dirt instead of Nunamaker, right there, because he's got his mullet shining. Oh, it is so amazing. Anyhow, Lindsay, we had to go off on that. I'm sorry.

Disappearance And CCTV Timeline

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All right, so yeah, we're about it's about to get really, really dark, you guys. So we had to get out our laughs. Okay. So, like I said, the last time she had been seen on surveillance was at 9.28 p.m. The next day, Sarah fails to show up for work and no one could get her on the phone. Like she had a meeting, she was all about her job. That's what people don't realize when they go and do these crimes, they don't understand. The disruption are going to be missed.

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Yeah.

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You fucking idiots. Okay. So nobody could get her on the phone, and around 8 p.m., her boyfriend Josh reports her missing to the police and calls her family. Now, posters went up immediately, and police were actually on the job. Like, you know, they in a lot of cases that I've listened to, and even ones that we have covered, sometimes the police just don't do what they gotta do, but they did uh in this situation. So they were on the job taking tips and collecting camera footage from CCTV, ring cameras, and dash cameras. Like they were collecting everything that they could find. Her name was trending on social media quickly, and the footage that had been collected was released to the media by March 6th. So this happened on March 3rd. By March 6th, it's it's everywhere.

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They're doing the work.

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They're doing the work.

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Yeah.

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Now, a public transportation bus actually caught footage of her talking to a man on the side of the road, and that man's car had its hazard lights on, and this was around 9:38 p.m. She would have almost been home. So she leaves her friend's Rose house at nine o'clock. It's a 50-minute walk.

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That's a lot of damn walking.

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Was two and a half miles. I mean, she could have took, I don't know. So I I'm a walker. I I like walking. Uh so some people just want to walk.

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Yeah, I get it. I mean, yeah. There, I mean, it's a good thing.

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And if you've got good music in your head and good fucking podcast, that 50 minutes ain't shit. Like literally.

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And you are saying 50, 5'0, right?

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5'0, 50 minutes.

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A lot of damn walking for me.

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Yeah, because you don't get it. 50 minutes ain't shit for me. That's what I do every day.

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Wow.

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I do 40.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't notice it too. You're right.

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40 minutes to an hour is what I do in my walking journey every day.

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Yeah, when we go together, it's not bad. Yeah. No, no, no. I get it.

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But that's what I'm saying. Like, she was almost home. She was 30 main 30 minutes, 38 minutes into her journey, 12 minutes later, she would have been home. And this just really pisses me off.

Wayne Couzens And The Arrest

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So the police got the tag number from the car seen in the uh dash cam footage and traced it to a rental car company. Or in the UK, they call it car for hire. It was actually an enterprise. They're I guess they're global. I didn't know that. So on March 9th, police arrested a man and his wife on suspicion. The man was Wayne Cousins, and he was a metropolitan police officer from Kent, and his wife was just kind of caught in the crossfire. She actually had no idea what was going on. She did not have any apart of this. So Wayne was also the father of two.

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That they had together, right?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So this is a police officer with kids married with children. Right. Now Wayne was arrested on charges of kidnapping and indecent exposure because he had gone through a fucking McDonald's drive-thru without wearing any pants twice. Twice.

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The fuck?

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That they knew about.

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He wasn't driving a hearse, though, was he?

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But he was exposing himself to minors. That is disgusting.

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Disgusting.

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Yeah.

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I was just going back to your McDonald's experience with the Oh yeah.

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Gotcha. But fuck Wayne Cousins, okay?

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Fuck Wayne Cousins. Why does he sound familiar to me?

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I don't know. Why does he?

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Why does that sound familiar to me?

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Well, I mean, this is a recent case. Maybe you caught wind of it on social media, because, you know, I mean, everything can't escape you, Jesse. Can it?

SPEAKER_02 23:15

I guess not. Yeah. Maybe I've maybe I've heard something about this. I don't know.

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So Wayne Cousins was born December 20th, 1972, and lived in Dover, Kent, which is about 70 or 80 miles from where Sarah lived.

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Come on, dude. That is so disgustingly pervy.

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So he had served in the territorial army and later became an authorized firearms officer. Like over there, you can't, everybody can't just be toting guns. You gotta be authorized. And the civil nuclear, he was part of the civil nuclear constability. Did I say that right? Constable. Yes.

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Responsible, but not him.

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No. Now he was transferred to the Metropolitan Police Service in 2008. And in 2020, he was assigned to Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Branch. This all sounds a whole lot fancier than it was. I just want everybody to know. Um, uh, I think that the uh the constable, the civil nuclear constable thing was like voluntary. I don't even think he got paid for that shit.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Um, but he could protect some hierarchy and political people, too. Right.

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His titles just sound a lot more fancier. Wayne Cousins was not that great. Uh so Wayne was definitely not a well person, and he was quite the fucking pervert at work, earning the nickname The Rapist.

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And he walks around with that also on his little badge, don't he? Like, you know, look at me. Yeah, okay, that's me.

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That is unacceptable. No. How are you in the fucking London? London is huge. London Metro Police Department with the nickname the fucking rapist.

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Yeah, when he shows up to all the guys in there getting coffee in the morning, hey, how's it going, rapist?

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Well, that's what I'm going on to say.

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How's it going? I'm going Australian. My best.

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He had also shown co-workers the torture porn that he was into and had sent indecent photos of himself to people online. That's who Wayne Cousins was, yes. Great job, London.

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Yeah.

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Taking a drink on that. I'm sorry.

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No, you're no, you're flipping me enough to where he should not have this fucking career and stature of being a constable. Come on, dude. There's a lot of crooked ass fucking Bobbies.

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And one of the ones that is authorized to carry firearms because it's not like it is over here where they all do. Okay, let me take a breath.

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No, you're I mean, I get it. You should be fucking uprising right now. I feel like I'm just like this guy. Fuck him. Fuck.

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Now it is clear that he had planned on doing what he goes on to do, but with no particular victim in sight. Just whoever he seen along his route.

Abuse Of Power And Kidnapping

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Now he is in London in his rental car and spots Sarah walking alone. He stops her and he tells her that he is a cop, shows her identification, and says that she is being arrested for violating COVID restrictions.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

He had a fucking plan.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

I just got chills all over again. This has made me so mad. Seeking out. Dude was just seeking it out, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Weak. This fucking disgusting human.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Because she's a good girl, she complies, and he handcuffs her and puts her in the back of his rental car. Now she thinks that she's just going to a local station and she's like, you know, okay, I'll pay the fine, I'll go on about my life. So imagine the horror when he drives 80 miles back to Kent.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Yeah, we just passed the station right here, bro. What the hell? Right?

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah. So when the police figure out that it was Wayne and go to his house to make the arrest.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Don't you fucking go here. Come on. I'm fucking just terrified of what this guy is. No, I told you the police do the work. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

I was just saying. No, the police do the good work. Okay. Fuck. So he is asked if he knew Sarah and he denies everything. He denies ever even talking to her or having any interaction with her. The only thing he knew was that she was missing because of the news.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

He didn't know that there's cameras every freaking few hundreds of things. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

This is fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

And he also, before he, before the police came to the house, like right after he commits the crime that I'm gonna tell you that he commits, he wiped the data off of his phone. Doesn't he know that that can be easily fucking retrieved? Right. Fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

And then the buildup between his coworkers and other people around him, just calling him casual.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Did you not have a fucking good reputation, bro?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

No, but they're casually calling him that, and he's feeding off of that too at the same time. He's like, oh well, I can get away with whatever I want. They think I'm cool, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And also, right after he commits the crime that I'm about to tell you that he committed, he took time off of work because of quote unquote stress, personal stress. And he even turned in his weapons.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Unbeknownst by his wife, I'm sure. Yeah. She thought he was a child. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

She are she, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You are exactly right. So police are like, dude, uh, we have you on camera talking to her beside your rental car. And this was like, from what I could tell from the camera footage, because I watched a lot of it, it was a yellow ass fucking car.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

And that is just so not legit. I mean, it's just you're just showing up in this shady ass car, so shady. The whole day.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Well, he showed her identification. Yeah, because he was indeed a cop. Like, so he fucking thought all this out.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

I'm gonna be like, no, I'm waiting on somebody else to come here in an official vehicle, you know? I can wait.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Right. So then he's like, okay, here's the deal. Um, I'm in financial trouble because I didn't pay my sex worker bill. And the people that I'm in trouble with, which are identified as Eastern Europeans, they're involved in human trafficking. So they made me kidnap a woman to turn over to them, or they were going to kill my family. So that's the story that Wayne Cousins now has for the police.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Which might be some kind of a tie-in to some bullshit that he got into, but it still sounds like a bunch of fucking bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Well, the police are like, who are these people? We need to find them so we can find Sarah. How do you communicate them? Like, what's the whole deal here? And he says everything is in person. So he has no receipts to show any type of communication with this supposed gang.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Yeah, I don't believe you. I think that now you would be seeking for safety and trying to get out of the whole situation, honestly, if you were in that situation. But yeah, he yeah, he already has a past, fucking dirty ass McDonald's dude.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Now, at this point, the police know that he's full of shit, and they arrest him and they arrest his wife, thinking that maybe she was an accomplice. Now the wife is cleared, but Wayne remains in custody as the investigation continues. Well, they found that his cell phone had pinged off towers in the area of Hode's Woods.

Evidence, Discovery, And The Horror

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Now that pisses me off just like Ruth's Chris, but it is what it is. It's it's Hode's Woods. It had pinged several times the night of Sarah's disappearance. Now, uh, Wayne owned a plot of land in this area. And after an extensive search, they found a severely burned body in a pond on Hode's Woods.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

It took dental records to identify her body. Now, what Wayne had done was falsely arrested Sarah, raped her, strangled her, and murdered her, burned her body inside of an old refrigerator, and put her body in building builders' bags and disposed it in the pond where she was found.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

This picture sucks, Lindsay, that you're painting here.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

I know, I'm so sorry. I told you this one was a little sad.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

At the sheer imagination that I have of the pleasure that he got out of doing this shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Right. He was just literally living out a fantasy from the fucking torture porn that he had been consuming, and it was consuming his mind. And he's already a sick person who had actually just in my mind and several others' opinions as well, he had just slipped through the cracks to get in the positions that he was in to have this authority that he had. I mean, the Met, the Metropolitan Police Department in London, that's fucking huge.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

Yeah. And the echoes of assurance from everybody around him, they weren't shutting him down, which they should have.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Yeah, no arrests were made on his indecent exposure. And in fact, one of the minors that he exposed himself to, their parents, her parents were fucking fighting him and fighting him and fighting him, and it was just kept getting shut down and shut down and shut down. They were trying to get charges pressed against this man.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

Like some bullshit like that is laughable. Like you can just brush that off and be like, oh, that's just him.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

You know, that's just how we're and if it had been shut down, Sarah would still be with us.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

That's why I'm so fucking on that hill right now. I don't build it bigger because this is fucking garbage. His whole fantasy vacation just came to light and it got caught. You piece of fucking oh.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

I don't even want to say dog shit because I don't want to insult dogs. Yeah. So the outrage, especially from women that came out of this was astronomical. Like astronomical is actually an understatement. No, I mean like a police officer did this. Yeah. You know, how are women to ever, ever feel safe?

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Yeah, have you ever seen like the you know, the hippo when he stands up and poops and his tail goes around? That's what, yeah.

Public Outrage And Failed Police Advice

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Well, let me tell you about the diabolical answers that women were given from this police department in several areas surrounding London. Oh, he was running amok to what so no, this is just what the men thought that women should do.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

What?

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Okay, so one police chief actually spoke out from the Yorkshire area and said that women should just they should just know when they should and shouldn't be arrested. They should just know that.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

E by gum.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

E by fucking gum. And then there was, okay, so why don't you call 999, which is their 911, uh, and verify that it's legit? Or call over a passerby to witness the interaction, or even run to the closest residence and stay there until things are verified. What?

SPEAKER_02 34:48

The fucking arrogance. What are they walking around that arrogant? Who's they? I don't know, but still, are humans walking around that arrogant like, hey, you're supposed to know. Don't you know?

SPEAKER_01 35:01

I mean, wouldn't you then be charged with arrest uh resisting arrest? Fuck yeah, you would. Like there was just no. I mean, and there was a couple more of these stupid fucking answers, but they were just as shitty as the rest. So there were vigils held, but kind of like protest vigils. And one was called Reclaim These Streets, and that happened like almost immediately after Sarah was reported missing. And uh the another one was I'm sorry, I'm scrolling because I did not type these.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Oh but they're protect yourself enough to wait for a qualified real vehicle to show up. If something shady shows up and somebody has a little badge, yeah, I'll wait for a certified vehicle to show up here.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

And there was another one called Clapham Common Visual, um, which was for, you know, just basically this was like 10 days after everything was caught brought in. 10 days after her disappearance, everything has been brought into the light. They know now that it was a fucking police officer that did this, and the women are fucking outrageous. They should be, and people are still trying to shut it down, saving, oh, you're in fucking COVID violation. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Seriously, uh disrespectfully, fuck you. Like, yeah, we just lost a human being who falsely claimed to be a police officer telling her that she had violated COVID restrictions.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

In fear of not obeying the law and then went along with a shady situation, and they're just like, oh, you were supposed to know that this was a shady situation.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Exactly. No, you're not.

Guilty Plea, Sentencing, And Impact

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Well, on June 8th, 2021, this was a couple months later, a few months later, Wayne submitted a guilty plea and admitted to everything and was charged with four indecent exposure counts as well. So there was just more than just the initial two that people knew about.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

And he was sentenced to life in September of 2021. Now there is a documentary called Sarah Everard: The Search for Justice, but that one is only on Apple TV. Now, I found several really good ones on YouTube that were in very informative, helped me get what I needed to write this out. And one on Amazon Prime called The Murder of Sarah Everard, a faking it special. Fuck. All right, so I'm gonna read you guys a little bit of uh Susan Everard's victim impact statement that she read in open court, basically to Wayne Cousins, because fuck him. So she says, I read that you shouldn't let a tragedy define you, but I feel that Sarah's death is such a big part of me that I am surprised there is no outer sign of it, no obvious mark of grief. I have been changed by it, but there is nothing to see outwardly. We live our normal lives, but there is an inner sadness. People who do know are unfailingly kind and have helped more than they will ever know. We are not the only ones to lose a child, of course, and we form a sad bond with other beraved parents. After four years, the shock of Sarah's death has diminished, but we are left with an overwhelming sense of loss and what might have been. All the happy ordinary things in life have been stolen from Sarah and from us. There will be no wedding, no grandchildren, no family celebrations with everyone there. Sarah will always be missing, and I will always long for her. I go through a turmoil of emotions, sadness, rage, panic, guilt, and numbness. They used to come all in one day, but as time goes by, they are more widely spaced, and to some extent, time blunts the edges. I am not yet at the point where happy memories of Sarah come to the fore. When I think of her, I can't get past the horror of her last hours. I'm still tormented by the thought of what she endured. We find we still appreciate the lovely things of life, but without Sarah, there is no unbridled joy. And grief is unpredictable. It sits there quietly, only to rear up suddenly and pierce our hearts. They say the last stage of grief is acceptance. I am not sure what that means. I am accustomed to Sarah no longer being with us, but I rage against it. And I'm gonna cry now.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

Yeah. For her believing in the system, because fuck the system. That's where you start saying fuck the system right there. When the system fucking. They beat you that bad. And how do you get that back? You don't get that back.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

You don't. But that is the conclusion of our story on Sarah Everard. And like I said, it was not as fun as last week's episode, but it is. We're here. We're always here for awareness. We are going to share the good, the bad, the ugly. And this one just really bothered me. Really, really bothered me because why?

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Why?

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Good people just fucking taken out because for uh nothing.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Lindsay. I don't want to. I know. Thank you though. The thing is. Wait. If something like that goes down, don't trust it.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

And this motherfucker had the audacity to take his family to that area. Because I told you he owned a plot of land. He took them there on holiday.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

This is so fucking arrogant.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

He made doctor's appointments. He made vet appointments. He just went on about his fucking life.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Yeah, nothing.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

I'm good. While this poor, innocent girl who did nothing wrong and was living her best fucking life was sitting in a pond. Yeah. Burned. But that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Palette Cleanser Band Pick

SPEAKER_01 41:56

Jesse, what band do you have for us this week? Because we absolutely need a palette cleanser. Help me. Help me Jesus, help me Tom Cruise.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

Lindsay, this band is called Capture This. They're so amazing. And the song is called It's About Money. So here we go. Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay. I gotta love them so much.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

So much. And I've already followed them on Instagram, on Spotify, and guess who else they are followed by? It's all just a circle. Another band that we have featured, which is actually local to our area, Reckless Giants. Okay, okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

They uh capture this is from Denver, Colorado. On Instagram, you can find them under capturethis dot bands. And you guys go follow them.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

That's what's up. That's amazing. Love it. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Yes. And go follow us on everything.

Where To Follow And Listener Milestones

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Yeah. If we just popped up in your algorithm and you're new here, what we do is I tell Jesse a true crime story, and we have a couple of drinks, and Jesse plugs an amazing band like this one at the end. Yeah. And we're just, we're just in our kitchen. We're just doing doing things. So we need you to like, share, subscribe, do all the things. So on Instagram, we are drinkabout something. On uh if you want to send us an email, we are drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. We do spontaneous lives on TikTok, drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay. And where Jesse, where are we on YouTube?

SPEAKER_02 46:11

You just go to Gen Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y, and you can find us and come and hang out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Oh, and our main website, drinkabout something.site.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

I got some stats though, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

You got some stats. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

Yeah. So we're going to start this off kind of like this. So this whole time, I'm just going to play that in the background. Because we just had 5,000 downloads, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Yeah. Thank you guys so much. So much.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

It is so amazing to be able to keep doing this and seeing everybody else participate and join along and check it out and the all the reactions and responses and the messages and all the cool stuff. We're just building this stuff together and it's so amazing. So our second biggest country area is the United Kingdom.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

Thank you, United Kingdom, that we just talked about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

In this case.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Which was leading for we don't like your police department.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

Which was leading forever. Singapore actually is our third. And Panama is our fourth. And then Australia is number five. I'm going to leave the top five right there. Thank you guys so much. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

We are, I mean, we are so geeked out about this. We have people all around the world listening to us, and we don't really know what to think about that, but we love it.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Yeah, no, I'm being able to project this, and the whole awareness behind this is just it's not that you're supposed to know. If you're in that shady situation, wait for the respectful situation. If it comes up and you something's not right, and some police officer does show up and they're just like, here's my badge, do what I say. Yeah. Wait for like a real vehicle or somebody else to show up.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

Still, like, how do you go about that though?

Safety Talk And COVID Reflections

SPEAKER_01 48:01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 48:01

Like, okay, even respectfully so, just offset the situation enough to where you do feel safe. How's that?

SPEAKER_01 48:09

Well, you know, I've I heard I first heard this case from the red-handed ladies, uh, Hannah and Sarudi, which are in the UK. Hannah has now moved to South Africa. Jesse and I went on a whole map quest. Oh, yeah. Checking out the bottom horn. Looking at South uh Cape Town, South Africa, because red-handed ladies are two of my favorite podcasters. I love them so much. And they said that like in the UK, you can't even carry mace as a woman. You know, you have to have special like license just to carry some mace.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

Fuck no, I'll carry mace in my goddamn my weighted vest every day.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Out of the crazy history that we have in the United States of America, there is just some. I mean, we're a problem child, too. There is some crazy shit in other places too. Just like that, I mean, that's just some closed-minded shit for dudes just to show up and be like, oh, you're supposed to know better. You know, it's like, wait a minute, dude. People are in fear. They're like, hang on, I'm just trying to be a good person, you know? Uh, but yeah, definitely at least offset the situations if you're uncomfortable and wait a minute, you know, back up. Hang on. Let me back up a minute. I'm waving at the camera over here, you know, like I see it, you know. There's there's things like it's out there, like the chat GBT, and all this, all the stuff is out there now.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

So And that's what I'm saying. Like, how did this guy feel that he was gonna? I don't think he that he planned on getting away with it. No, I I don't think so. I mean, he couldn't have. Yeah, he's a police officer, he knows that everywhere, everywhere in London is on surveillance.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Don't they have a room that he passes by when he's going to the coffee fucking machine and talking bullshit about all the disgusting human that he is? Isn't there a room right there that people monitor that? Yeah, I mean, ugh.

SPEAKER_01 50:01

And he was 48 years old.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Like, yeah, bro. Still, it's disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

But I just feel I feel bad for Sarah's family, for Josh, for and even for Wayne's family, because they didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

They were just innocent, like they had no clue.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Yeah, and this part is like a whole nother conversation that you have to tell somebody. That's the only thing productive. That's what I was saying. That's the only thing productive that I can actually say, do have a five-minute conversation about this one too. You know, hey, you got a young daughter, whatever, she's wanting to go and out and doing her things and do, you know, being herself. Have that conversation as well. Hey, if you're in this situation, you might have restrictions, man. Oh, yeah, that's that was a scary time, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

And I swear to God, we did a time warp during that time too, because it just it was here and then it was gone. And like, and so much bad shit happened. There's I've got other cases in my roster about shit that happened during COVID. Women were unsafe, children were unsafe. It just and there was men too, but mostly women and children. There was a lot of unsafe people during that time, and it's just really fucking terrible. And then you got celebrities all like in their fucking mansions with pools and shit and plenty to do talking about just stay indoors, just stay indoors. Fuck no, dude. And then a few weeks later, go outdoors, go outdoors, go ride your bike, go share it, yeah. But then go back indoors, go back indoors now. Hurry up, get back in, get back in.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

They didn't know what they were doing. Yeah, it was all one mess. Big fucking farce to me. You know, it's like people get sick all the time. We have to just, you know, everybody's gonna get this. It's spreading like wildfire.

SPEAKER_01 51:46

So man, I'll tell you what, this stomach bug that I had this past weekend, Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ, if you know that reference, comment. Um but I mean, I understand uh a pandemic. I understand that you've got to do certain things to lower everything. But like uh what I was hearing, okay. So I listened to a few other UK reporters and and and podcasters and things like that of what that time was like for them. And it was literally like after the first lockdown, they were encouraged to go out and eat to save the economy. And then they're like, oh, oh, oh, never mind, never mind, never mind. We're we're getting we're getting sick. Hurry, get back in, get back in.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

That's why I was like, It was the weirdest thing back, go out and get back in the so bad. I feel like I'm getting my full head on right here about all this experimentation.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Well, then I told you about the lady that I waited on. Um so there were two stories that I had being here in Florida as a server. Uh, one couple was from California, and they said that Florida was their conjugal visit during the COVID times. And then another lady.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

She's like, I'm gonna come down here and live.

SPEAKER_00 53:01

I wanna live.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

She was from New York, and she was like, they're just out here shitting in the street, and she was so loud, and I'm like everything I had not to bust out laughing, but I was like, I felt the passion in her voice at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

It was really a huge nest for people that had idle time, and especially if you got a criminal mind, there was probably a lot of fucked up shit that really happened in households and in neighborhoods, and people that were held back from being able to like uh work that out and just be regular in somewhat way. And there was a lot of crazy shit that people just blew up because they're just held back in their homes, you know, they're just idled hands and just create a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Yeah, I was gonna say I had the I I mean, I read I read a lot of books, and but I was depressed. I mean, I was still working two days a week um because we had our to-go to goes were available. So they picked like the top staff members to run the that station, but it was like management and one of us. Yeah, it was very eerie, like driving our roads was crazy, like sad. And like I would get the boys, we would get up and get dressed every day because the um our youngest school was providing like snacks, you could and books, and it's literally right around the corner. So we would drive there and get it. We would drive to my work, yeah. So we would drive to my work and get our free meal because they were providing a free meal for us every day. So we would have our little outing and then we would come home and we would just be like, what do we do now?

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Yeah, what do we do now?

SPEAKER_01 54:38

But we were all watching Tiger King, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Yeah, sure was.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

Yeah, I re-watched all the Star Wars trilogy, or not trilogy, it's not a fucking trivia, the Star Wars universe and the Marvel universe during that time in chronological order, and it was a great journey. The whole world of amazingness, yes, and became a complete Star Wars nerd after that.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Welcome to the world, Lindsay.

Final Thoughts And Sign Off

SPEAKER_01 55:01

But we are going to sign off on that note, and like I said, make sure you guys like and follow and subscribe to us. Like, follow, and subscribe to the bands that we play on here. And please just be safe out there. Oh my god. This one has just made me so angry. Rage Against the Machine. Fuck the system, all the things that Rage Against the Machine and System of the Down have said.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Yes, yes, yes. We will see you guys next Friday, though.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Bye!