Toasting Lost Icons

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Hey Chessie. Hello, Lindsay. We're gonna raise our glasses right now. Are we now? We are. Okay. Uh Dolly Parton. Upity up. Tim Curry. Oh shit. And Peter Cullen. Dude. All taken from us this week. Dolly Parton and Tim Curry on the same day. Do you know that his team didn't announce his death till the next day? But he died on the same day as Dolly. She took him with her.

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Everybody in the club is leaving the club. What the fuck? You didn't take a sip, Lindsay, out of your fucking drink.

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Okay.

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Are you having delusions? Delusions of grandeur.

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We are watching, we were watching Clue right before we started. We've paused it to finish it later.

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And then we did the time warp.

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Yeah.

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And I cried like a baby.

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Listening to Dolly.

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I did.

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And we watched nine to five that night when I got home on the 25th.

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If you want to cry with me, just go to Spotify and put on.

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Because we watch Still Magnolias all the time.

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Honky Tonk Angels. Just put that on Spotify and you can cry with me. Yeah. I was just like, what the fuck? Lindsay, it's been the shittiest week. I mean, the shittiest week.

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The weather has been suck, sucky. It's been my time of the month. We had a full moon. We lost icons. Like, I am over. This week, I'm ready to enter a new month. Happy September. Happy Friday. Let's go.

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Hey, Lindsay, I just don't want no more.

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No. Oh. Like, I'm obnoxious right now.

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But as of right now, though, as of right now, happy fucking Friday. Yes. We're in here. No more delusions of Gram Ju. Ah, so no matter what, we want you to tag your number one Dolly or Tim Curry movie. Do it right now.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

And then, of course, Peter Cullen, that's Optimus Prime. That's Eeyore. Like I mean, Eeyore is my favorite Pooh character of all time.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

So yeah, we're going to do that. Let's do that together. Yes. And if there's something that we don't know about, maybe let us know about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Well, I mean, it just didn't dawn on me till the next two days after Tim Curry's death day. He was Nigel Thornberry. And that's like one of my favorite cartoons of all fucking time. The Wild Thornberries. And I was an adult when that came out, but did it stop me from watching it? Absolutely not. Loved it. Couldn't wait for it to come on.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Like it's full on, dude. And in 20 years from now, Dolly Parton's gonna be releasing a song. So let's hang out for that.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Like you garden a little bit and watch wild thorn berries, and it is an absolute great time. Well, flea's in there. Oh, yeah. That's the badass. Donnie. Donnie. Oh. Oh my god. Like Eliza was supposed to be the main character, but she really wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

So Lindsay, this drink isn't hitting hard enough, but I mean it is crowned apple.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Okay, I was gonna say, what are you having to drink today?

SPEAKER_01 3:39

You gave me just some uh you gave me some pineapple something. What was it? Pineapple Vista Bay or no, white cloth. Pineapple white cloth.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

We're on white cloth this week.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

This is Walmart week. And I put a little bit of energy drink in there because I want to get geeky because I have been fucking, dude. As soon as I got home, I've been a mess. What are you drinking?

SPEAKER_00 3:57

He was great and cheese and crying. I was. So I'm having, I've got Peach Vista Bay is in my cup today. And I had a little bit of uh watermelon Celsius earlier to keep to keep my spirits up.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Yeah, we need all the uplifting stuff during this one. And I hope the Lindsay just obliviates me because the last couple, I feel like I'm completely saddled now or closing up season number two.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

I know. This is gonna be episode 90. Ah is it?

SPEAKER_01 4:30

How much is gonna be this hard ass that just takes all this bullshit now? Like just regular ass dude over here is like, oh, that ain't nothing.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Oh, this is gonna be episode 97. Oh, really? Yeah. So, um, first of all, welcome listeners. Uh, we are the Drink About Something podcast where we talk about true crime. We have a couple of drinks, and at the end of the episode, Jesse plugs an amazing up-and-coming band that we do have permission to play. No need to worry about lawsuits.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Well, we ain't getting no money out of this shitty anymore. So I see that you did bring out your Halloween Buckies type. Yeah, it's almost time for your cup.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

It's almost time. I'm in the couple. By the time this comes out, it will be, we will be in the Burr months. Yeah. But I'm already, right now it's like August 28.

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So I have traversed, though, myself. I've I went out of my Blackbeard cup.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

You're on the handmaid's tail, though.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

I'm on the handmaid's tale in Game of Thrones House Gen Z under his eye. Under his eye. That's right. Yeah. I designed it. It's got the Iron Throne and Blessed Be the Fruit on there. Yeah, so I I've traversed into that. I'm not ready

Feeling Old And Brain Freezes

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to go there yet. Maybe next week. But you know, we're here. We're here. You got stories to tell. God, what a week.

unknown 5:54

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

But first, I gotta ask you what made you feel old this week. Duh.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

All of that we just talked about. Damn it. All of every bit of all of that. I mean, I really felt like every bit of all that made me feel old because I mean icons passing, and it's just like so bad, dude.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Our our our fucking childhood, adulthood, everything. Like those three people have been a major part of. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

And if that doesn't make you feel like fulfilled as my ancient ass is, I guess, or whatever. Sometimes while I'm working or something, I'll be doing something and I just get stuck. Oh God, yeah. I don't know if it's ADD or if it's just me getting old because I don't remember it me ever just being in the middle of something, and then the brakes completely fucking went full emergency break. I am stuck for like a second, and I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? And then I go back at it.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Maybe that makes me feel better because maybe that isn't just perimenopause. Maybe that's just our age because that happens to me daily.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

In the fucking middle of everything. Bagada baggada bag, I'm clacking on my computer, ordering parts, whatever I'm doing, and just like brick. And now I'm back. What the fuck has that happened to anyone else? I mean, maybe me and Lindsay are the only two, but I don't know. Me every day.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

Every day. At least once.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

No, sometimes multiple. I've never experienced it enough to actually remember to speak on this. So now I'm here. Here we are. Are you perimenopausing with me? Fuck yeah, I am, dude. I feel like yeah, we're taking this shit on together, dude. You know we are. I am like full on support. We're doing it, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

It's rough out here, and he screets. But what made me feel old this week was so you know how there's like though, and I share them to you quite a few times. Uh, the nostalgic TikToks where it shows you like the snacks that didn't make it out of the 80s or the 90s. And I every time it's those fucking Keebler tato skin chips. And I, when I tell you, I loved those chips so much. And I had like a depression over the fact that those didn't exist anymore for quite some time. Like I would always ask, can you get tato skins? Can you get tato skins? And then later on, TGI Fridays tried to come out with their own version.

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That's what I was gonna say, because I love those.

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But there were nothing, they were nothing compared to Tato skins.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

I don't remember skin. I remember the the Fridays. You don't remember tato skins? They were that much better. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. That's it. We're calling fucking we're calling Marty.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

We're gonna get in the pizzeria chips. God damn it. Please, Keebler and whoever made the pizzeria chips, get your shit together and bring those back.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

We're getting in the DeLorean and we're going back to 1985.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

I think that's about the time. No, it had to have been a little bit later. 1995. No, so the pizzeria chips were probably like 91, and I want to say the Tato skins were like 88, 89. It was before I started school. We're going back to 1989. Yeah. Whatever. Well, I started in I started school in 88.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

On the dock. We're going, dude. Christopher Lloyd, where you at? Bring me those chips back. Dude, if that's both happens this year, I swear to God. God, I'm not speaking that into existence.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Well, they, I mean, the furthest year that they went to was 2015, and we're 10 years past that. We're 11 years past that. So just letting

Nostalgia Snacks And Listener Questions

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you know. Shit. Are you ready for this story?

SPEAKER_01 9:39

I guess so. I mean, you know, whatever, we'll do whatever. We're here. Yeah. Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

But real quick, I wanted to tell our listeners, uh, comment on any platform, whatever platform you listen to. Um, tell us what your favorite Dolly song, Dolly movie was, and your favorite Tim Curry movie. And what Tim Curry movie were you introduced to Tim Curry? Like for me, it was Annie. What was yours?

SPEAKER_01 10:04

It all day long.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Really? You saw it before Annie?

SPEAKER_01 10:08

It all day long. Seriously. I'm not that wholesome, dude. Sorry. I was raising.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

We both had very different backgrounds. But yeah, my.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

I don't remember Annie before it. If that counts. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, Annie was an obsession when I was a little girl. But and then for Dolly, for me, the first movie that I ever saw her in. I mean, of course, I already knew her music, but I want to say it was this um movie where she was in where she was like a performer and it was in Tennessee. I told you about it years ago and I found it on YouTube. It was like a Tennessee Christmas type movie. That was the first one I ever saw her in. Okay. But the main one that I remember, of course, was Still Magnolias. Number one.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Oh, for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

And I yeah, because I didn't see Nine to Five till or like a few years after. Right. Still Magnolias. What was your first dolly? Probably the little whorehouse one. I've never seen that. We need to watch that. I've never seen Little Horse Little Whore House in Texas. I've never seen that. That was Burt Reynolds and her. I've read about it my whole life and I've never watched it. So we need to do that.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Join us as we do our things. But yeah, that was probably the first one, I'm sure.

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But yeah, listeners, comment your favorites.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Like Smokey in the Bandit times and shit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yeah. Burt Reynolds was the douche at that time. The douche. The douche with his halatosins. Yeah. No, that was Clark Gable. Oh, was it? Clark Gable was the halitosis man.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Oh, but still, like, I mean, it's still iconic. Even my uncle was a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

I mean, Burt Reynolds might have been too, but I I I know for sure that Clark Gable from Gone with the Wind had the halitosis rumor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Y'all gotta put some mouthwash on. Come on, man. Yeah.

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Little altoid.

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Whatever. They do. Bring you some altoid. Back in them days.

Joanna Hunter’s Bright Early Life

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All right. So today we are drinking about Joanna Lynn Hunter. And she was born on October 27th, 1974, to Patricia and Joe Hunter Sr. in San Mateo County, California. She had a little brother named Joe Joe Jr. And Joanna was very close with him. And it's said by Joanna's mother that Joanna considered Joe her little gift. That was her baby.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Oh, yeah. She was at that age.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah, she was, yeah. And Joanna is described as loving and empathetic, always wanting to help someone in need, whoever needed it. She played piano, clarinet. She played in the jazz band. You know, that was something that I was so jealous of. I did not try out for the jazz band because my parents weren't like involved like that. They weren't up and up on the things because I played the clarinet. I was first chair, y'all. And I didn't get into the jazz band. That's my parents.

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Our town was like for sure, had the speakeasy and the hotel that brought jazz together.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Well, and when you were in the jazz band, you had to do extra performances and extra things, and you know.

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And had the drums with it, and it was cool. Like you're actually jamming. Yeah.

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Yes. And she was in the marching band too. Nah, I was in the marching band. Loved that shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

The craziest uh marching band experience I had was we went to St. Augustine to march in their parade, and they didn't tell us how long it was, and it felt like it was like a million miles. Like it was probably two, but it felt like a million.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

That's gotta be exciting because you're exciting in front of thousands of people that you're walking by.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Right. And it was like I didn't recognize my own talent at that time because only a few were chosen for that, you know? And we just got on the bus and we went, and I was like, oh, okay. There's there's not that many of us. And yeah, it was like uh 30 out of 150. Yeah. Wow. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Yeah, that's wild. And then like doing all that and the excitement, did you guys play like ump tempo? Was it hard to keep up tempo and everything? Because I know when I play on stage, I get excited and we speed shit up and everything. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

I don't remember all of it, but I just remember it being so exciting and exhausting all at the same time. Yeah, it was just a really cool experience.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

I've never experienced that rhythmically while walking in cadence, so that's a whole different thing.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Yeah, and we had the little we had the little thing on our instruments where our music was and all that. So yeah. That was really cool. That was a really cool time. Yeah. Well, she also was very athletic. She played softball, volleyball, ran track. I mean, she was that girl. And between her sophomore and junior year of high school, she was accepted into a summer gifted program at UC Berkeley, where she took a media class. And then later in her junior year, Joanna met and started dating Mark Lewis, who was the son of a preacher, man. Mark Lewis's dad was a preacher for a fire and brimstone type church called Fellowship Baptist, which was weird to me because the Baptist church that I attended with my granny and my aunt Sadie, it was very low-key. Like they sang the same shit every service. They said a little sermon. There was no fire and brimstone. So I was like, really? They were like charismatic. They were like a, you know, an evangelical type Baptist church. Like a freewheel person. Putin and Hollering.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

That's where I've been around. And yes, they do that.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Now Mark and Joanna, they went bowling for their first date. And then after that, his family wanted her to come over and play cards and meet her, get to know her. And a few days after that, Joanna came to her mom crying and said that Mark told her that his dad had read to him from the Bible saying that she wasn't meant to be born. That her parents were living in sin because they were a biracial couple. What? You don't remember that? You were never taught that? Like I grew up thinking that. I oh fuck no. Yeah. What? In my the churches that I attended, and that's why I say that's why I hate fucking religion. And that's why I will not go to a church. Because when I was growing up, I was taught that it was a sin for different races to date each other. I still remember my first experience of an interracial couple at Ebcot when I was five years old. And my I just thought that they were like at five years old. They're going to hell. They're going to hell. What? That is what I grew up thinking. And that is fucking horrible.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

It's horrible. So my experiences with church in Florida, of course, where I grew up in Appalachia, there was it was all the mountains of Caucasus.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

It's all Caucasus up there. Well, where he's from. From his part. Now we've went to Louisville. That's a whole different world.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah, yeah, that's college town.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

But you were you were from you were living in Paintsville, and that's a different atmosphere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

But when I when I moved to Florida, every church that I ever attended was everybody. So it was a little bit different.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

So there were no black folks, period, in any church I attended until I want to say ninth or tenth grade. And then there was maybe five. Yeah.

unknown 18:06

Really?

SPEAKER_00 18:06

And that was, and yeah, because I went to I attended Pentecostal or non-denominational churches. And yeah, there was nobody. And in fact, um, we went to my dad, he pr he preached, so we were like guests at a church. I want to say in High Springs, I'm not 100% sure. And there was one interracial couple there. And I remember asking my parents about it. I'm like, is that okay? And they kind of hemmed and hauled around it. You know what I mean? Yeah, that it was just a different.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Like, what? Yeah. Did they not read the fucking same book that I was reading? I mean, come on, dude. We're all part of a tribe. And don't they remember after the fall of Babylon that uh every tribe just all of God's people just went in different directions?

SPEAKER_00 18:57

What that's that was their thing. No. At the Tower of Babylon, they separated everybody. So that's where you were supposed to be with who you're like whoever you were separated with. Like I don't remember everything. I don't remember everything, you guys, but like I was raised in some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

So we could talk about this for hours, but yeah. Hours. Yeah, we're done.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Well, after his dad, you

Racism And A Controlling Church

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know, told him that shit. Like when I went, when I tell y'all that Joanna was, I mean, this is a gorgeous family. Period. I'm gonna post pictures in Instagram. Make sure y'all are following. It's in our stories every week. Beautiful woman, Joanna is like super talented. First of all, Mark, you are lucky you ever met her. But, anyways, after his dad said that shit to him, he called her and he was so upset. And he was contemplating suicide because of what his dad had said. His dad's family or Mark Lewis's family is fucking crazy. I'm just gonna go ahead and put that out there.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Everything human and free will and all your emotions and growing up and and having that attraction has just been destroyed. It's like this is what God gave me. And you're gonna destroy it.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

And they're in California, which we have always viewed over here in Florida as a way more liberal state. And y'all had a problem with that shit still then. You know what I mean? Garbage. Anyways, um, so you know, all this was after only one, basically one day and one visit to his family's house. Now Patricia told Joanna to tell Mark to come over to their house so she could talk to him, but she made sure Joanna stayed upstairs in her room. Now Patricia encouraged him to call the suicide hotline from their house, which was very small. So he did that. And when he went home, he told his family, you know, what he was going through. And they called Patricia, Joanna's mom, and yelled at her and said they don't receive help from outside of their church. Like basically telling her she was wrong for giving him that kind of advice. This kid is contemplating suicide because you just told him that his the lady that he loves is an abomination.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

So now you're just solidifying the whole choice for you to not go back to church.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Like I said, that's just that's how the Lewis family was. I mean, they're they're horrible fucking people. Just gonna go ahead and put that out there.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Yeah, we're not gonna think the way that God wants us to think. You're gonna think the way that we think that God wants you to think about it.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

And that's why I have a problem with religion, because over the years, they have just twisted and turned and perverted and just contradicted everything that you can possibly think of. From a man who says, Love thy neighbor, don't judge, lest you be judged. All the things. Yeah, we're all God's people, right? We're all, yeah. Do you know? Okay, real quick side note. I've even seen a fucking TikTok from some crazy ass bitch who has gotten absolutely just, I mean, thrown under over through and all under the four tires of a bus because she tried to say that Dolly Parton wasn't a real Christian because she was accept an accepting human being. Fuck you, you shrimy ass fucking clout chasing ass bitch for ever trying to put something bad on Dolly Parton's name.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Well, I mean, one of the most wonderful human beings. Yes. Than Jesus did. Oh, okay. Take it like that. Look up everything that she's done.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Dolly Parton was the national treasure that literally everybody in the entire world loved unanimously. And how dare you try to think that you're gonna change somebody's mind because she was accepting of all things gay, straight, trans, whatever. Like, fuck you, bitch. Dolly was the epitome of what you would think that a Christian should be. Exactly. Yes. And gave way more than any of them. Than anybody you could think of. She could do you, I mean, Dolly Parton could have been a billionaire many times, but was she? No. Because she gave that shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

She gave and gave and gave. Rebuilt whole communities and supported whole communities that was devastated uh throughout her whole career, dude. Like she has done so much for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

And if you consider miracles as something that just happens because and some dumb bitch sitting in a gym trying to record and actually feel like she can be validated, no, ma'am. Nah. No.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Nah.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

She's talking about she was worried about Dolly's soul. Ma'am, you need to worry about your own soul because Dolly's is just fine.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Yeah, you're gonna judge the person that judges. Right. In your own religion. That's not a yes, it is a sin. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

But Patricia and Joe Sr. did not want their daughter to continue to have a relationship with Mark. But unfortunately, she did. She would skip school to see Mark and would kind of hide their relationship. She would start falling behind in school. Like it was affecting everything in her life. And then Patricia went to a school counselor for guidance. Like, what can I do to help my daughter see past this blindness that she's having through love? And the school counselor was like, girl, it's just puppy love. It'll all work out.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

But how many guidance counselors in school are certified? There you go.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Now both of her parents would express their concern to her, but it kind of fell on deaf ears. Joanna

Abuse Escalates After Reuniting

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was indeed blinded by love. The relationship continued, and Mark and Joanna would move in together, and then the abuse started. Mark choked Joanna for the first time when she was just 21 years old. You fucking son of a preacher man, son of a bitch. And at 22, she ended up in the hospital because he had sprained her neck. And for that, he actually received 36 months in jail. She ended up getting an order of protection. She went back home to mom and dad. And she signed up for community college and even joined the track team. But just like all manipulators do, Mark convinces Joanna to visit him in jail and then promises that he'll never be again. He's like, girl, I'm born again. Jesus has delivered me. And they get back together when he gets out.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Just when I thought that this was gonna be an easy one. Like I thought that I was calloused. I thought that I could handle shit. Fuck you, Lindsay. No, you're telling this story right now. Why are you cussing at me? Because no. I mean, you built all this up to, and I thought I was gonna be like, okay, they solidified and it was gonna be beautiful. Maybe some shit happened to them, but he was the them. He was the fucker that was the fucker. Fucking hell, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Well, her parents and little Joe Jr. were devastated because the abuse doesn't stop. And Joe Jr., he actually gets old enough and he starts confronting Mark, but then he stops because he learns that when he does confront Mark, Mark takes it out on Joanna.

unknown 27:15

Shit.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

And Mark's family, they start referring to Joanna's family as like the devil, especially Patricia. Like they think that because they don't go to their church, that they're gonna go to hell. And this church actually is very culty. Like they preach sermons on how you're gonna get into heaven. And if you don't go to this church, you are gonna go to hell.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Yes, fear all fear-mongering. We're gonna pass the plate. And if you put more money in and you do exactly like I say, then you're good.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

And now, Mark, he's the leader.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

This is not gonna be good. I don't want to be here right now. I don't want to, but I don't want to participate, dude. So Mark's family on the offering plate. I'm not putting no money in.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

So Mark's family come down here to the south and they open up their own church and they give him the Fellowship Baptist. So now he's he's number one. He's number one.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

You think the salad behind all of this was his dad to begin with.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Oh, absolutely. His dad and his mom, uh two evils under a Christian guise for sure.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Under his eye.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Under his eye, 110%. Joanna and Mark, they will marry in 2000, and she doesn't tell her family right away. Patricia says that when her and Joe Sr. found out, they just held each other and sobbed. I'm just sorry. I'm just picturing Patricia right now. I listened to like two interviews with her, and Patricia talked to Mark after the fact, after they got married, and said, How do I know that you won't hurt her again? And he said something along the lines of, well, when she becomes a good Christian woman, you won't have to worry about that anymore. Fuck Mark Lewis. Like I am so mad right now. I hate this fucker. I've been mad all week on top of everything that's happened. Like, I know I've been angry about this. I hate him. I hate Mark Lewis so much. I hate his family. I hate all of them.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

I don't fucking feel like you're attacking me with this story right now. Like I haven't, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Well, not only was there not only was their daughter now married to this horrible, controlling, manipulating man, but she was also part of this very culty Baptist church. On October 5th,

A “Suicide” On Church Property

SPEAKER_00 29:55

2011, Joanna called her brother Joe. And Joe says that she was angry. She was ready to leave. And this time, Joe said that she had confidence in her voice. And they talked for a while, and he encouraged her to leave, hoping that she was finally done. The next day, October 6th, Mark was allegedly playing basketball and talking about Jesus for pretty much the entire day with one of his church deacons named Jacob and a few others, starting at 1 p.m. Now they lived on the church property, and the house was just yards away from the basketball court that belonged to the church. Later on that evening, after they had been playing basketball for allegedly six hours straight. Come on, dude. Without breaks. Here we go. Mark entered the residence and found Joanna hanging from a pole in the closet, and her bathrobe sash had been used as the noose.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Fucking hell, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Fuck. Now does he cut her down and attempt CPR? No. Does he call the police? Absolutely not. He has one of the guys, uh Andrew Alvarado, to be exact, he has him call the police. Now he is on the 911 call. I'll give him that. And he's just like, I don't want to talk about it. I don't you can look the 911 call up on YouTube. It's pathetic. Now the police arrive and they get Joanna down and immediately assume that this is a suicide because she had left a note saying, take care of the dogs.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Oh fuck, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

They handcuffed Mark briefly, spoke to him for a little bit, but no one suspected that this man with a history of domestic violence could have possibly killed his wife. He's a godly man. It took all of 29 minutes for the police to wrap up questioning and go on about their night. 29 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

And the fuck? Come on, dude. What really happened? Why did this transpire? Come on.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Now it will be way too late when it's discovered that Mark actually didn't go to the courts until 3 p.m. when he said he last saw Joanna at one. And his buddy had actually left for a while before coming back to play basketball again. Like there was a couple of students playing with them, like you know, youngsters, and he drove them home, got them food and everything, then came back. So there's all that time that's unaccounted for, but there's no questioning. There was no looking into Mark's domestic violence history or anything. Joanna's parents and her brother would not find out about her death until the next day. And Mark had sent Deacob Jacob, or Deacon Jacob, excuse me, to tell the horrific news. Like he's he didn't go. He sent somebody else. They were told that she committed suicide, but they knew better. She had never, ever spoke of suicide before. And when they asked what the note said, Patricia knew that that note was to Mark because she was leaving him. That was take care of the dogs because I'm out of here, motherfucker. And I can't take care of them.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

I'm just so fucking pissed right now. This is fucking Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

And it was discovered that there was a suitcase opened in the closet where Joanna was found. Like she was packing her shit and leaving him. And he wasn't gonna let her go. Because he couldn't be a pastor in his church if he was a divorced man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

I'm just fucking done with this already. This is you're just getting started.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

I'm taking a drink. I'm sorry, I gotta moisturize my pipes here. Fucking hell. Because we got somewhere to go. So an ongoing battle between the hunters and the police would rage on because they're like, Y'all didn't do your motherfucking jobs at all.

The Family Fights For Answers

unknown 34:46

No.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

And there was actually one of the cops was a member of that church, of course. And a couple of years later, so that happened in 2011, 2014, Patricia gets word that Mark Lewis has been arrested. And she's like, what? Because now he has been violent to another woman. Ooh. A woman from his church named Sarah Nottingham. He had called Sarah right after Joanna's death, like right after. And was crying, and he manipulated the whole situation. You know how these fuckers do. It's a salad buffet. Mm-hmm. And later on, they start dating. She said the relationship started out great because, you know, that's what they do. They manipulate, they love bomb, they do all the things. Oh my God, my wife. Oh, I can't believe she did this to me. Blah, blah, blah. And then he's feeling sorry. She's part of this culty ass fucking church, too. But then his true colors started to shine. He couldn't hide them for very long. He started shoving her. And there was a lot of mental abuse, gaslighting. And then Sarah finds that Mark had been inappropriately messaging an underaged girl. I did it in the name of Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I choked you in the name of Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Side note, there is a TikToker. I forgot to write down her handle. But she's out there doing the actual Lord's work, in my opinion. She is calling different churches. She's specifically calling pastors.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Have you seen it?

SPEAKER_01 36:37

I have. Talking about needing money for her child and no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

This is a whole different thing. Oh. She is calling to see if she and her husband, there's there is no husband, but she's saying, well, my husband has these charges against him. Oh. Would we be allowed to join your church? Because we have, you know what charges I'm talking about. And the pastors are like, yeah, I've had to face the same thing. Yeah, these little lion-manipulated bitches, and oh, it's terrible. I forgot her handle. I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk about it. I'll I'll remember to get the handle.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Lindsay, I have the whole story planned for you.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

She's making a point. She's calling churches and pretending like her husband is a pedophile and asking if they are okay to join their church. And most of the time the preacher is saying, Yeah, I've had to deal with the same shit. And that makes me want to find it.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yep. That's so fucking sick. And the churches will actually pay to get them out of jail during that. And I have done some research, season three. I have a story for you here in our own town.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Okay. Oh, I mean I'm not even surprised, but I'm ready for it. I mean, I'm not ready, but I'm ready. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 38:09

So that's coming out.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

Take the blindfolds off. And victims that I have personally been in contact with went to school with one of them.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Oh shit, Jesse. You've been all brewing a story.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

I have. Season three's coming. And I will dump that on you then because I just found out a way to get the actual records. You did criminals.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

You messaged me about that yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

We can get deep. We got it for days, dude.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

We need to get a better security system.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Ah, fuck it. Fuck it. It's uh it's out there now. So this is our letter that says feed the fucking dog.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Well, Sarah, she's got two children that she has to protect. Not with Mark. These are from you know a previous relationship. And she's done. And she goes to her parents' house. But guess who isn't done? Mark. He harasses

Sarah Nottingham And A New Pattern

SPEAKER_00 39:05

her, he assaults her, threatens her and her family, breaks her windshield, and she gets an order of protection. But unfortunately, that doesn't always stop motherfuckers like this guy because Jesse, I have, I have mutilated him uh the last few weeks. We've been watching on Netflix all the worst series. The worst ex ever, the worst neighbor, the worst, what was the other one? Roommates. It was so fucking bad. Orders of protection? Don't mean shit. Squatting, squatting laws, oh my God, make me want to fucking march the streets right now. Like I have never, ever really thought about being like a violent protester, but squatting laws and protection of order of protections make you want to be a criminal, don't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Yeah. Fuck. And fuck you, Marky Mark, and your Vingilanti.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

We don't want to say criminal, but Vingilanti.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Bastard bunch of fucking whatever dude. This fucking dude. And he's just using religion to be a horrific ass human being.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

And listeners, if y'all haven't watched those series, get on it because it will anger you. And we really need to come together as people who are good and who who follow the law and who are not horrible people.

unknown 40:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

We need these orders of protection and these things that are out there to help protect us in our own homes.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Here's the law. Here's the law. Here's what I think we need to pass. I think if you have a squatter in your home or somebody that you need to get out of your house, you should be able to go five houses in your community and get them to sign off for that person to be out of your community as well. And once everybody signs out, they're out.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Then what was sad is, I mean, this was years ago when Craigslist was more, you know, a thing. But now, more than ever in this day and age is where you need a roommate. But God damn it, like, and I was just saying, like, there was women who were getting male roommates that were just ruining their fucking lives. And I was telling Jesse, I was like, first of all, I don't, I would never get a male roommate that I did not know. Much maybe not even a female that I didn't know. Like, I mean, I would want to live with somebody that I had known for a long time. Yeah, because you know what kind of drama they could even bring in as well.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

But you can't even bring their self or somebody else with them.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

But I had to look at myself as being fortunate enough to be married to somebody who I'm, you know, we're a team and we get this shit paid. But there's a lot of people that can't afford housing without a roommate. And it's so sad. Yeah. Because they may be in a town where they don't know anybody and they have to, oh, this world is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

But I feel like, okay, now with the technologia that everybody has in their hand, you can video somebody in your house being whatever. And we have talked about so many people that have passed laws, and I think it should be a thing. I think that you should be able to show your neighbors, hey, there's somebody in my house, in your neighborhood also, that could commit crime. And if I do a restraining order or whatever, that this isn't going to protect me. Because there were people in some of those shows that we were watching, they got a restraining order, and the cops wouldn't even go inside to let her get her clothes. And you have to go in there with that human that you're trying to get safety from. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. That has provenly done danger and harm on somebody.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

And they just they just what 30 episodes that we watched where the cops just like eh.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

Damn near every one of them.

unknown 43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Yeah. There was very few. There was maybe, I think, maybe two where the police were like actually good and did their job. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

And if you know that right now, make the police sign something saying that they're not protecting you.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

And there was more than one of them where people did jail time for shit they didn't even do. Oh my god, we're gonna get angry. Okay. We're gonna get even more bad. So I'm gonna keep going. It is so thick because we're gonna get even madder.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

Using religion to do this kind of shit, right now. Yeah, I'm so we're getting fired up right now. This is a bonfire fucking episode right

Molotov Attack And Hired Helpers

SPEAKER_01 43:41

here.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

Speaking of which, on January 9th, 2014, at 3 a.m., the fire alarm is going off in Sarah's parents' home, and there is smoke everywhere. Someone had thrown a Molotov cocktail through her parents' Window. Yeah. They quickly put out the fire, thank God. And Sarah's dad's like, fuck this, puts on his bathroom, runs out to see if he can find who the fuck just tried to kill his entire family. And either mom or Sarah, they call the police. And the police find a suspicious U-Haul truck that's just riding around in the area. And there were three people inside that confessed immediately and said that they had been hired by Mark Lewis.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

With the fucking plate of offering as payment.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

He was later interviewed and said, I never gave them money to do anything bad. So you're saying you gave them money? Like, and Patricia says in her interview.

unknown 44:52

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Yeah. Fuck. So Patricia, in her one of the interviews that I listened to, that I'm gonna plug here in a minute, uh, she said that he was actually paying them with drugs. What the fuck? So these were drug addicts that he was paying to kill somebody's family, a preacher of a fucking church.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Brothers and sisters, we're a little short this week. My brother in Christ. Can we pass the plate twice? That way I can buy some cocaine to pay these people to try to murder somebody.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

In the name of Jesus. And it was probably meth, to be honest. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Yeah, they were geeked.

SPEAKER_00 45:27

Like who the fucking apported cocaine?

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Yeah, they ain't giving them, they ain't getting them a bag of weed and letting them fucking try to kill somebody.

SPEAKER_00 45:34

No, hell no. Because they're gonna be like, nah, dude, I'm gonna chill here and watch movies and eat snacks.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

I need shit.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

Oh man. I just need an eight ball. Two means mom cocktails, and we'll take care of this.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Oh, it's terrible. We're just finding the humor in this horrible situation. If y'all don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about Uncle Bill, Uncle Baby Billy from the Rights Gemstones, HBO Max. Go watch it as soon as this podcast is over because you'll have a great time.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

I might have said that, but I'm really not talking about that, Lindsay. I'm talking about them passing the plate and then people tiding.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Well, that's showing, tiding, talking about that show is a great reference to the corrupt fucking corporate church. Watch it.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Yeah. Right now. If you want to be awake a little bit, I mean, it's not that we're going against the Christianity, religion. No, yeah, we are. By any means. Well, the corporate, we're going against that.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Yeah, we're going against religion. We're going against religion 100% because the ideal and belief of having some higher being, I agree. There's just too much corruption. But commercialism in the middle of it, if you got a Starbucks in your church, fuck you. Fuck you. Jesus said Jesus said that.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

He flipped the tables. Yeah, Jesus said that's in the Bible. If you have a Starbucks in your fucking church, they were selling shit in the temple and Jesus flipped the fucking tables.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

We're gonna lose that is in the Bible. All five of our followers right now, Lindsay, over this one.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

No, we're not because listen, I have nothing against Jesus nor God whatsoever. But religion and mankind, absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Yeah, you're fucking up his divine fucking plan.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

I mean, he was just a man that walked all the time in sandals and tried to do good to people and said, Love thy neighbor and don't judge lest you be judged. So there,

Reopened Case And DNA Questions

SPEAKER_00 47:40

there you have it. Okay. So now Joanna's family is like, uh, now do you believe us? Can we please reopen our the Joanna's case? Please. Yeah. And the case is actually reopened. But it's like this police department did not want to admit that they were wrong. And where have we seen that before? West Memphis 3. Like it's still going on. Uh many, many, many years later.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

Vanity.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

They don't want to admit they're wrong. Anytime that they are wrong, they don't want to admit it. And it's fucked up. Like, why can't you just say, you know what? We were a little hasty. We closed this out too soon. We should have investigated. We should have seen that this man had gone to prison for 36 months for domestic violence, and he could have possibly murdered this woman.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

On the same woman that may or may not have hung herself. Right. That was trying to get out, and everybody is saying that she was.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Well, unfortunately, the evidence that they collected, uh, it still points to suicide. So the case is once again closed. And then in 2015, the DA at that time decides to do some DNA testing on the bathrobe. It shows Joanna's DNA and the DNA of an unidentified male. But like, Mark paid people to attack Sarah and her family. Who's to say he didn't do the same for Joanna? Yeah. He may not have done that himself. Now, an expert in strangulation named Dr. Smok, he comes in and he says that this he is absolutely sure that Joanna's death was a homicide. There was a rope in the scene that nobody even talked about. And it looks like to him, you know, this expert that Joanna was actually strangled and her quote unquote suicide was staged, which makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Right. While she was alive, the blood clotted in a rope type of thing. When they found her, and then she had a whole different method of her demise as shown. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

When they found her, she was completely stiff from rigor mortis. So, which suggests that she had been dead for many, many hours. Many. After two autopsies, it was shown that it was suicide. But Dr. Smock said, no, this was homicide. And unfortunately, his findings were overruled. Of course it was. And this pisses me off because the initial investigation was absolute shit. And they did not do a thorough job whatsoever. And they were just okay with letting this murderer get away with it because he was a pastor. Don't overlook the pastor. Never. I mean, if anything. Look there first. Look there first. It I mean, it is literally statistically proven.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

In the household.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

In the household. The spouse. The spouse is always supposed to be looked at first. Number one. Why, why didn't this happen? I mean, this man had strangled and abused Joanna on several occasions and went to jail for it and then attempted to kill another woman and her whole family. And they still wanted to act like that this was not a homicide. I don't understand.

unknown 51:10

I don't fucking understand.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Now, for what he did to Sarah and her family, Mark Lewis was sentenced to eight years. But he only served five. And he has never faced any charges for the death of Joanna. Oh. Never. And he lives in Arizona and is remarried. Now, the documentary that I watched is called Joe Hunter's Mission, which is her brother, Joe Hunter. He helped form this documentary. One of the reporters on that documentary is excellent. Go watch it. Go watch that first. Then watch whatever else I said to watch a few minutes ago. What did I say to watch? Righteous gemstones.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

So go watch Joe Hunter's mission. And one of the investigators or one of the reporters on there found Mark Lewis's house because he's out of prison. And he went up there. Now, this man is living with his wife and his father-in-law. And his father-in-law knows about the death of Joanna, knows about what he did to Sarah, and was actually a member of that church prior to. That was all the way over in Vocaville, California.

SPEAKER_01 52:34

So is he still holding ministry now?

SPEAKER_00 52:36

I'm not sure. Not sure. Now we need to know. But like shit. Now that man, he acted like he really didn't want to say anything bad about Mark, but is he living there? Because he knows what happened to these previous women and he wants to make sure his daughter's okay. Yeah. It's yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, I hate the whole story.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

I hate it all. The razor's edge of Jesus, if it be thy will.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

I'm telling you what, we don't have daughters, but we got granddaughters. And they will know all of these fucking stories. Yes, when they get of age.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

About about 14. I'm gonna start.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

We'll give it to them in a PG version.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

Bestowing upon such in the way that they understand.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

Yeah, this ain't gonna happen to them. No.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

Well, the best we can fucking do. I mean, that's what you can do, right? As parents or grandparents. I mean, we're gonna

Joanna’s Law And Why It Matters

SPEAKER_01 53:40

do our best, right?

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Now, the best part of this horrible situation is that on January 1st, 2025, Joanna's law was passed. And this law requires investigators that respond to suicides, drug overdoses, or any other fatal accidents to check for a history of domestic violence. And if there is, it is to be assumed that this is a suspicious death and to treat the crime scene like a homicide until proven otherwise. Which why did it take till 2025? Why? I'm glad I'm glad it's there now. I'm glad it's there now. But why does somebody have to die to make that a thing?

SPEAKER_01 54:26

And to have to pass a law over common ass fucking sense. Clause number two, squatter law on Joanna's law, Gen Z clause. If you have somebody in your house that you need out, all you have to do is prove to five people around you, and it should be a law that they have to be taken out immediately.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

We should get actually on this is okay, so this law was great, but it's only in California.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

So we're calling California. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're getting, we're getting on it, dude.

SPEAKER_00 54:59

That need that law needs to be passed state to state. Fuck yeah. I have not checked for every state's laws about this type of situation, but that should be uh, I mean, that's common sense to me. Common sense. I mean, duh. If you're already saying, like we already know that the spouse should always be looked at first, why isn't it already a thing that this checklist should happen and that this crime should be treated as a homicide until proven otherwise, period? Right.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

And with ring cameras and everything else now, oh yeah, let's pass the Gen Z law, clause two on Joanna's law. If you if you need somebody that's in your house, out, prove it to people in your neighborhood. And as long as that's truthfully so, they have to get out immediately. I think we should get on it, dude. I want to be an activist, dude. I want to make a law, dude. Let's do this. I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00 55:57

That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

Should we? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Now, Joe Hunter Jr., Joanna's little brother, he was on season 48 of Survivor, which was a show that Joanna loved. He was a contestant, like he did the thing. He was a survivor, and he talked about his sister's case, and that brought more recognition to this case. And like it's I watched the documentary. Um, it's like I said, it's called Joe Hunter's Mission. It's fucking amazing. It's a 48-hour documentary, season 38, episode 14 on Paramount Plus, is where you can watch the documentary that I watched on this. And then I listened to an interview with Patricia Hunter on another podcast that I listened to called True Crime Obsessed. Now you do have to be a Patreon member to listen to that interview. But there are, okay, so ABC 10 has another special on YouTube that you can watch where uh Joanna and Joe Jr. are both interviewed, and several of the other people involved in this case. So ABC 10, Paramount Plus, those are your two go-tos. 48 hours and ABC 10 special. I think the ABC 10 special was called Hidden Homicides. That's it. There we go. And it's like little mini episodes, they're like 15 minutes each. So it's very, it's easy to listen to, easy to watch, whatever you do. But yeah, that's that's the story of Joanna Hunter. And I just really couldn't find any other podcasts about this other than one, maybe two.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

So you done the work, you're deep diving, and it's something.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Because, like, there's another pastor that I'm gonna cover, and we'll talk about that later in the next season. But like, fuck this shit. I'm I'm I'm over it.

Church Money And Public Hypocrisy

SPEAKER_01 58:05

So, do you know what your offering is actually providing in a church?

SPEAKER_00 58:11

There's a new documentary out about the one that the next one I'm gonna cover. It just came out on Netflix too, but I'm not gonna cover it till next season. But it really pisses me off. And I watched that one unfold in real time, and it just it's really sad. It's really sad. Wouldn't that be fucked up to just to know that you help pay for something like that? Exactly. Yeah. The church dollars went to helping this fucker pay for some drug addicts drugs to help try and kill somebody's family, their entire family.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Yeah, now I have a little bit of access. I want to find out how much money in our county comes out of a church to bail people out that are pedophiles, just criminals, just whatever.

SPEAKER_00 58:55

Well, not too long ago, I want to say maybe a year or two ago, there was uh, so we had some old neighbors that were pastor, pastor's wife of a small community church who hired a ex-pedophile to lead their song service. And there was a whole I watched the whole huge debate going about it, and they were excusing it, saying it was 22 years ago, it was a mistake. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

Fuck no, it's not. And the money that came out of your pocket is supposed to port support that. I mean, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

And I was just flabbergassing. Flabbergassin.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

So we're gonna look into that. That is a mission of mine, season three. We're gonna like be like, here it is, this church spent or whatever, you know, just if we find out that it is a church entity that has helped bail out or spend the congregation's money for criminals, and then supported them and been like, oh no, it's all cool, it's all cool, right? They're good now, right? But we're gonna judge you, but we're gonna let them come back, right? That's the fucking problem. If you're not gonna judge, don't judge at all. That's the thing. And they're so judgmental.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

You know, many, many, many, many years ago, like nothing recent whatsoever. This was before I even met you. I was waiting on a couple. If you're new here, hey, I'm a server, but I was waiting on a couple, and they were rude to me like right off the rip. And I'm the type of person that I I can't even help it. I try to with every fiber of my being, but I match energy. So they came at me um sideways. So I more than likely responded sideways. And I only do that. Like I'm a happy, bubbly, Jesse knows anybody that knows me knows I am a very happy, go-lucky person. When you're sideways to me, I am like, it's to the where the point I'm like taken aback by it. Like, why, why are you being this way to me? I don't even know you, you know? And in my line of work, sometimes that is difficult to overcome when somebody comes at you like that. Well, I did everything that I was supposed to do. I did my job. I gave the service, I did the things. And they went to when they were cashing out, they told the cashier that they were gonna pray for me because they think that I was having a bad day when they were the ones that initially came at me sideways.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Set the mood, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:41

Set the mood. Like, I'm telling you, and and it's like it's I'm I've been working on it for very many years, but I do match energy. Like, and I can't even help it because when you're when you sit down and you know, I'm coming up to you, hey, how are you guys doing today? I'm Lindsay, I'm gonna be taking care of you. Can I get you guys started with a sweet tea, Coca-Cola?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Yeah, you start off with a star-studded service.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

I mean, I mean, my smile, y'all. I got a million-dollar smile. You know what I'm saying? And then when you come at me with just pure disgust, it throws me off a bit. And then you're gonna go up and say, You're gonna pray for me? Listen, I'll match you. I'll pray for you because why did you just come in here and sit down in my section acting like that? You know what I'm saying? And that is, and that is ruined me over the last 20 years. I've been in my restaurant for 20 years, but I've been in the service industry for almost 30. And I'm sorry to say it is the church crowd that is the worst, and every single server that has ever weighted tables will tell you the same. Like it's not even, it's not just me, it's not just my coworker, it's every restaurant across the United States. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:02

But the room just fucking tells you.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:05

The room tells the story.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

You'll have to read it. Yeah, it is like full-on gang signs.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

You're not even sign language, the rudest customers with the least amount of gratuity.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:19

Yeah, period. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

Always. Yeah, and it's just, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

Yeah, it is what it is. Find somewhere in the United States of America that doesn't agree. There you won't find one. You won't.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:33

You won't. You won't, especially in the South. I don't know about any other places, but especially in the South. I mean, this was in Vocaville, fucking California. You think Mark Lewis was being nice to servers and tipping 20%? Fucking. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

You get that fake $20 bill that has a scripture on the back of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

Yeah, we've been here.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:55

I still have one in my box right now. Well, fuck. What a story. So that is the coverage of Joanna Hunter, and God bless her, God bless her family. I hope that they can find peace and closure, and you can follow Joanna's voice on Facebook right now. That's your call to action to where their family posts updates and things because they are still trying to find justice for Joanna.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:25

For sure. I feel like a lawsuit needs to be involved.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:30

I mean, I'm sure, I mean, they have them. Pass the plate on the lawsuit. Yes. Let's collect an offering for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

Yeah, that would be uh a sure enough real one right there. We don't need Molotov cocktails and crackheads to do this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

I double checked. Yes, it is Joanna's voice. And I'm just gonna show Jesse a picture of Joanna. Look at her.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

She is so stunning, Lindsay. Why'd you gotta destroy me even more after destroying me? Shit. I didn't want to I didn't want to take this

Band Spotlight And Final CTAs

SPEAKER_01 1:05:00

ride. I didn't. But I want to play music though. Yes. This is Ruiness. This song is called The Decline.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:26

The decline.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:40

Oh yeah, Lindsay. Oh my God. That was an amazing female-fronted hard rock band from central Pennsylvania. Fuck yeah, Harrisburg, what's up? And you can find them on Instagram under official Ruiness Bands and uh Spotify Ruiness with all their catalog. And I enjoyed the shit out of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

They got a new album out, so check all that out. Follow them on all the awards.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:09

You can see that in their bio on Instagram. And we just want to say thank you for listening to our rants and raves this episode. We were just on fire. We feel the way that we feel about certain things. And we appreciate you guys listening to us. Make sure you like, subscribe, and follow all the things on Instagram. We are drink about something hot. On uh YouTube, where are we at, Jesse?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

Just type in Gen Z. And I just wanted to say real quick, Lindsay. Oh yeah. Fucking thank you so much for another horrific ass story.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:44

That one was really fucking bad. I'm so sorry, but I mean this is what we do.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

But Ruin S, check out their new stuff. Follow them if you're in the Pennsylvania area. Or any area. Yeah, go ahead. All over the globe. Thank you, global listeners. They would love to hear that we had sent you to them.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

And check out the whole catalog, dude. It's so amazing, dude. I love it. It is a lot like a lot of the Florida bands that I play with. And I love it, dude. It's so cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:18

Yes. And we got a show tomorrow. I mean, this will be a week past the show, but we shared in our stories. Hopefully, whoever wanted to come in the Jacksonville area, you come and hang out with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:28

Keep on following along because there's gonna be a lot more to come. We had a great time.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:32

Yeah. We had a great time. That's all that matters. But uh our main website is drinkaboutsomething.site. We do sporadic lives on TikTok under drinkaboutsomething. And yeah, you can just follow us and subscribe and like and share and comment and rate us on all the things. We love you so we will see you guys next Friday.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:57

We love you.