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EPISODE 105: Madame Delphine LaLaurie And The Dark History Of New Orleans
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A beautiful city can hide an ugly secret and New Orleans has one that still echoes down Royal Street. We start with a quick Cajun vs Creole reset, because Louisiana’s culture and class lines shape everything that comes next, then we jump into our own memories of wandering the city as travelers, not tourists. That Garden District walk, the cemeteries, the heat, the music, and the sense of history stacked on top of itself all lead to one address that refuses to fade: 1140 Royal Street.
We tell the documented true crime history of Madame Delphine LaLaurie, a wealthy Creole socialite whose public image masked cruelty on a scale that shocked even other enslavers of the era. We trace her family power, marriages, and the construction of what people now call the LaLaurie Mansion, along with the complaints neighbors raised and the legal loopholes that let her keep control. The turning point is the 1834 house fire, set by an enslaved cook, and the firsthand accounts of what authorities and bystanders found when they finally forced their way in.
From there, we follow the aftermath: public outrage, the destruction of the home, LaLaurie’s escape, and how the site evolved into one of the most infamous haunted house legends in America. We also dig into the later layers of lore, including the Nicolas Cage connection, and why the real history is far more terrifying than the exaggerations. If you’re drawn to New Orleans true crime, haunted history, and the question of how monsters are protected by status, this story stays with you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves dark history, and leave a review. What part of the LaLaurie story do you think people still get wrong?
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Cajun Vs Creole Explained
SPEAKER_04Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. Did you know or do you know the difference between Cajun and Creole?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I think uh Creole is like the upper classman version of the people from the Louisiana area, right? South Louisiana kind of, I don't know, whatever, dude. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04So Cajun is uh French-speaking Acadians who were exiled by the British from Acadia, which is uh in the Nova Scotia area. And this was in the 17th and 18th century, and they settled in the rural, swampy, and prairie regions of southwest Louisiana. And then the Creole was anyone born in the colony of Louisiana during the uh French and Spanish rule, and is a blend of French, Spanish, African, Caribbean, Native American, German, and Italian heritage. And they lived in the urban areas like New Orleans and port cities, and were more on, you were right, the high class side.
SPEAKER_00And they believed like they were the originators of that area because it was before the Louisiana Purchase, right? Is that what I'm thinking? Yeah. Holy shit, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_03I think I got it all in fucking shit, budget. Yeah. Let's roll, y'all.
Show Intro Drinks And Local Music
SPEAKER_04A little bit of jazz. Hello, listeners, and welcome to the Drink About Something podcast, where we talk about true crime. We have a couple of drinks, and at the end of the episode, Jesse plugs an amazing band like every week. Man, you have been kicking ass for the last two years on finding talent to put on this pod. And I am so I was listening. So when I was re-listening to our episode today and the band that we had last week, like that song was just fucking kicking. I know.
SPEAKER_00I mean, just so great. So fortunate to find all this, these amaz the talent is just out there. We just need support, you know? You know, find your talent in your areas. If you like music, support local first.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay, because that's what we're here for. We support the local talent, and that's what we want to plug, and that's what we want to support. But speaking of drinks, what you got over there in your cup?
SPEAKER_00So uh on this one, on this one, had a little Jim Jones in there.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00And that was like a lemon lime type packet that I put in there with it. And I put some white call pineapple, and then I mixed some of the doll in there with it. A little bit of the lungren.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Which is uh hard cut vodka. So good. And that's what I have in my thrifted martini glass.
SPEAKER_03I gotta you.
SPEAKER_04I made myself a very dirty dry martini with the hard-cut vodka, which is Dolph Longgren's vodka. And it's uh with like some vermouth and some olive brine, and I got like 10 olives in there. It is dirty. I think that's the first time I've had a martini on this pod, and I'm excited for it. Ooh, Liz. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Are you allowed to? Is it one of these? I am. Are we getting little bourgeois of them?
SPEAKER_04Bougeois. Well, I was excited. I wanted to use my fucking thrifted martini glass, mate. Fuck yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_00And I'm gonna sip. When we go thrifting, we find such great deals. It's very nice. Cheers, everyone.
SPEAKER_04I made like I like my martinis really dirty. And when you order them out, uh, nobody gets them as dirty as I like them. Like, I like a lot of olive brine, I like a lot of olives in it, and I kind of want it to marinate because I just want it's a sipping drink. A martini is a sipping drink. Because I love me an uh espresso martini too. Absolutely yum.
SPEAKER_00But every time you've ever ordered it out, you're like, give me 19 fucking olives right now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I have like I said, I have 10 in there right now, so yeah. And they're the Lindsay brand olives. But they just spell it a little differently than I do. They spell it with an A Y and I'm I'm EY. My name is actually the boy version of Lindsay, like Lindsay Buckingham. Oh, yeah. From Fleetwood Mac. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right.
Feeling Old Halloween Candy And Time
SPEAKER_00We've been on some Fleetwood shit all month.
SPEAKER_04We have the witchy poo shit. First, I gotta ask you before we dive more into Fleetwood Mac. Uh, what made you feel old this week, sir?
SPEAKER_00Me, myself, and all of I start looking at some of the dates. Whenever I was a kid, I thought that 2030, I would be ancient. Like when I was young, young, I was thinking ahead. I was like, I'm doing the math, and I'm like, 2030, I'm gonna be old as fuck. Right? I mean, I didn't it's literally right around the corner, and I'm seeing it on like driver's licenses. You gotta renew it by 2030.
SPEAKER_04Like we're literally planning a vacation for 2030.
SPEAKER_00I know, like in the middle of it right now, and and credit cards and everything, it's like 2030's fucking coming, dude. And I I I felt ancient at that moment, and I don't feel ancient now.
SPEAKER_04No, it just when you when we thought about that year when we were younger, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's that blew my mind, dude, and it's coming up faster than you think. What made you feel old, Miss Lindsay?
SPEAKER_04So I actually wrote it down this week. Are you proud of me? Fuck yeah, huh? For sure. So I got two. So number one, because we're we're in October and Halloween's coming. Um, it's actually gonna be a week from when this podcast comes out. Halloween candy don't mean shit to me anymore. What? No.
SPEAKER_00No, there's nothing that you can pick out of all of that that you really look forward to.
SPEAKER_04No, don't give a fuck about all that sugar because it makes me feel like shit now. The Halloween candy for me can fuck off. What? I mean, you know, I had I had all my older boys young, and when they were young and and trick-or-treating, like I would I would dump all their buckets out, like in this big pile, and I would pick out the Snickers, the Kit Kats, and the uh the three musketeers. That was that was that was my tax.
SPEAKER_00I agree with the Snickers.
SPEAKER_04That was my tax. They could have everything else. But now I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_00You would Debo their Snickers, they didn't care.
SPEAKER_04They knew. They knew. They knew their tax. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They knew their tax. Because I would be like, make sure y'all get some Snickers.
SPEAKER_00Tootsie for me. Ew. And I look forward to that waxy ass fucking candy corn.
SPEAKER_04Candy corn. Jesse's a candy corn freak. I make sure I keep a little bucket of it for him. The candy corns and the mouse.
SPEAKER_00I've never had pumpkins before you. Never had the candy corn pumpkin.
SPEAKER_04It's the same, it's the same recipe.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's the same shit. It's just in a pumpkin form. Pumpkin form. Yeah. Never had it. So, like, but that honestly, like, November 1st, I'm done. Yeah, but I do keep geeking because you got me a bowl of that shit over there. So I, you know, keep going back, you know.
SPEAKER_04But my part two of feeling old is this year is the 20-year anniversary of a movie that you and I and our whole family quotes on the regular, which is Talladega Nights. 20 year anniversary this year.
SPEAKER_0020 already? Yes. It seems like we watched that shit for the first time five years ago.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Does that seem correct? That seems accurate, right?
SPEAKER_04It does. It came out in 2006. My third child, who is now 21, was only one year old when that movie came out, and he can quote you that whole movie word for word.
SPEAKER_00It's a whole mindset, Lindsay, because like if you're not first, you're last. Yeah. That's it. That's all it boils down to. Yeah, I'm excited because you talked about Louisiana.
SPEAKER_04I know. Why am I excited? We're going there. It's day.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we're going. We're going back.
SPEAKER_04We're heading on down to Nall Orleans. Oh, that part. Oh, shit.
New Orleans As Travelers Not Tourists
SPEAKER_04So back in 2014, Jesse and I stopped off in New Orleans for the day and night. We did spend the night on our way to a powwow in Alabama. Was that Mount Vernon? Was that the powwow we were headed to? Was that correct? Yeah. I didn't put it in my notes because I wanted to make sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, shout out to the uh Moa Choctaw tribe area there in Mount Vernon. Yeah, that was a really cool spot. I felt like a turd in a punch bowl because I'm so Scandinavian.
SPEAKER_04But they thought that I was they thought I was they thought I fit in. They thought I was one.
SPEAKER_00You definitely fit in.
SPEAKER_04And I'm like, absolutely not, but thank you.
SPEAKER_00I was honored. Yeah, and they didn't know. Like, I I got there and and I hooked up with Otter Trail, which we had played it in it in a previous podcast. You know, I talked with the city.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we have featured Alfantos and uh Grammy Award winning. Almost a year ago.
SPEAKER_00Almost a year ago. Can you believe that? That was really cool. And he's like, wait a minute, we need to talk more about the M MMIW stuff. And I just wanted to bring that up again. That that story, you can you can check that that one out in uh season two.
SPEAKER_04We may re-release that one story because we are gonna uh we are gonna absolutely talk it about missing and endangered indigenous women next month. We're gonna we're actually dedicating pretty much the whole month to a case that does involve rightfully so. Missing and endangered indigenous women.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean fuck Columbus Day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what I call it now. That's what I call it now. I call it fuck Columbus Day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I think you should just call it, you know, Indigenous Day.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, but I mean if you but like when you're saying because it it's no longer Columbus Day, so fuck Columbus Day, I think is a good name for it.
SPEAKER_00I feel like that. I mean, what Leaf Erickson Day, if you want to call somebody that came here first from Europe, but it doesn't matter because it was this was their fucking spot, you know? So anyhow, we're going to New Orleans.
SPEAKER_04Well, why m while most folks who read VC Andrews' books were obsessed with the Dollinger family, I was obsessed with the Landry family or the uh the Ruby series in particular, who was a Cajun girl who lived in the swamp and then went to find her father in New Orleans who lived in the garden district. So while we were in New Orleans, of course, we had to find a tour of the garden district. And we literally happened upon a walking tour that was just about to start, right? I mean, like at the perfect moment. Like we went to the Lafayette number one cemetery and we were going to tour that, but it was ending. And this woman was like, Well, hey, I'm about to start my garden district tour, and I literally about passed out. I was like, absolutely, what do we owe you? Take all of our money right now.
SPEAKER_00You know, Lindsay, like, that's the difference between being a tourist and a traveler. And we showed up in New Orleans as travelers. Yes. We were not had we had no plans. No, we just went out walking. That was cool, but we didn't even get the room on Bourbon Street. We were across the road. We were right across the street. We could see it. Actually, it was a cool view. We could actually look down Bourbon Street. That was really fun. And Silas was a baby, baby, baby. And he turned 10 months old while we were in New Orleans. I know. And we were just like, okay, let's just just float around. And we and we stumbled upon that, and we looking across, we're like, okay, she looks like she just did some kind of tour or something.
SPEAKER_04She did. She had just done the graveyard tour of Lafayette Cemetery number one.
SPEAKER_00We were looking at a restaurant right there, too, and she gave us all the knowledge, started off for free, and then we were like, no, we want to pay you for, you know, she's like, cool, I just got finished with this. Hooked up with her, and we got like a personal tour with her. That was cool.
SPEAKER_04The knowledge that that woman had for every single house in the garden district is something that I will never forget. Like, her knowledge lives with me to this day, and that's been that's almost 12 years ago.
SPEAKER_00It was perfect. It was. And she's pointing out like Anne Rice's house and people's.
SPEAKER_04It was 12 years ago this month. We were there in October.
SPEAKER_00That's right. That's right. Yeah. That was a good idea.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's what I was about to say next. So during this tour, we happen upon a house that Nicolas Cage owned, which was previously owned by the author of one of our favorite books that was adapted into a movie, which is the interview with the vampire. But there was another famous house that he owned. A house located at 1140 Royal Street in the French Quarter, that just happens to be the legend of being one of the most haunted houses in America. And its original owner, Madame Delphine Lallerie, is considered an absolute monster. And that is who we are drinking about today.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit.
Madame Delphine LaLaurie Introduced
SPEAKER_04Let me take a sip of my Bartina because that's so good.
SPEAKER_00Dirty ass Lita Bita Boda butt fucking drink right there. I love it.
SPEAKER_04It's so good. So Marie Delphine McCarty was born in New Orleans, which was still Spanish New Orleans, on March 19th, 1787, Jesse. We going way back.
SPEAKER_00Back in a Diz A.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Her mother and father were Louis Bartholomew and Marie Jean McCarty or Jeanne. I don't know. It's spelled like Jean, but it may be Jeanne.
SPEAKER_00Sounds Creole to me.
SPEAKER_04And yes, they were very Creole. And they were a very wealthy, prominent Creole family with a total of five children. Like they were fucking royalty in pre-USA.
SPEAKER_00They're big pimping.
SPEAKER_04New Orleans. Yeah. They were a big pimpin' spin and cheese. Okay. Delphine's uncle, Esteban Rodriguez Miro, was governor of the Spanish American provinces and Florida. Both.
SPEAKER_00Both of them? Both them. Well, back then, like Florida actually went all the way to Louisiana. Right. The panhandle actually went all the way. So did.
SPEAKER_04From 1785 to 1791. And her cousin would later be mayor of New Orleans. And his name was Augustine D. McCarty. This was the age of the rich-owning enslaved people. Antebellum America. Oh. And some of these enslaved people would start to revolt during this time period, okay? Now I believe most of the enslaved people that were uh owned by this family were Haitian. And one of Delphine's uncles were actually killed by the people that he owned. And a lot of this revolting would result in the owners actually treating their enslaved people more harshly out of fear. Which actually makes no sense to me. I mean, wouldn't you want to treat them better so they would not want to revolt against you and kill you? I mean, that's just my opinion.
SPEAKER_00Or just not fucking have slaves at all. Period. Period.
SPEAKER_04Now, like a lot of women during this time period, Delphine was married at just 14 years old to a man over twice her age. And this was on June 11th, 1800. She was first married to Don Ramon de Lopez e.g., who was a high-ranking Spanish royal officer. Now he would die in Havana before Delphine actually gave birth to their daughter, Marie Borgia Bagora Delphine e Englo di La Candelaria.
SPEAKER_00I just wanted to say real quick, you're fucking nailing them, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_04Who was nicknamed Borquita. So that was her name, Borquita.
SPEAKER_00You're nailing them. I know.
SPEAKER_04Like I listen, I had to listen and re-listen the pronunciations. Okay.
SPEAKER_00You got them.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Now Delphine's second marriage was to Jean Blanc in June of 1808. Every marriage that this woman has occurs in June. And to this day, June weddings are still like the most popular. And next episode, I'm going to deep dive why, like, that's gonna be the cold open, you guys, why June weddings are a thing. Because it's hot as fuck. We live in the South. Why do you want to be getting married?
SPEAKER_00Don't be so passionate, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_04In June. Jesse and I got married in March because we wanted to keep our original dating anniversary date. So we got married on March 9th. And that was the perfect, like that girl that talks about the perfect day on misconductor, which was like April 15th or something. The perfect day in Florida is in March. Like it's not too hot, it's not too cold. Just enough for a light jacket.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you bring everybody together and everybody dies because you want a summer wedding. June?
SPEAKER_04Like and I don't okay. So Jesse and I have been to New Orleans, like I said at the top of the episode, and New Orleans is hotter than Florida.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes, yeah. No, not sometimes. I get it.
SPEAKER_04We went in October where it was nice and cool in Florida, and we went over to New Orleans and sweat our fucking ass off. There wasn't a dry piece of material on our clothing. It wasn't when we got done. Yeah. When we got done with that garden district tour, there was nothing left on us that was dry. Like we were sweaty. Jesse has a picture of me. I put a flower in my hair, and you can see the beads of sweat all over me. Because I not only were we walking for miles, but I was also carrying Silas in the front carrier. And he was a big baby. He was 10 months old.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And I was carrying him.
SPEAKER_00He was a gigantruan baby, actually. I mean, but he was almost a year old. Fix those, right? You can't. You can't.
SPEAKER_04There's too many hurricanes.
SPEAKER_00Either way. God bless you. Something. Yeah. Jesus.
SPEAKER_04Delphine was around 21 at this time, and Jean Blanc was a prominent banker, merchant, lawyer, and legislator. Like Jean Blanc was doing the damn thing, okay? And they lived at 409 Royal Street, and they would have four children together, and Jesse didn't pay attention. Their names were oh shit. Marie Louise Pauline. Louise Marie Larry. What the fuck? Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Did you go to night school just to fucking say all these names, Lindsay? I think you did.
SPEAKER_04That shit was like, how do you know the difference?
SPEAKER_00You uh you literally did spend more time on the research for this pot for this fucking story right here than people do to get their GED. I swear to God.
SPEAKER_04That's wild. Nailing it. Now Jean Blanc, her second husband, he died in 1816. When I say died, that is a a strong word because he might have actually just disappeared. Jean Blanc left her with a large debt to take care of. He was friends with pirates. Like he was he was something else. He was he was kind of swindly. You know what I mean? He was he was friends with a couple of famous ones. I did not write them down and I apologize. Um, but he was friends with a couple of very famous pirates, and he was, you know, he was shifty. I don't know, I don't know if he died or if he disappeared, but he left her with a large debt. But unfortunately, but fortunately for her, her parents passed away at this time and she had inherited a lot of shit, a lot of land, a lot of money, all the things, okay? Now on June 25th, 1825. This was uh when Delphine was around 37 or 38. And to be honest, she actually could have been older, but I just did a little bit of math, and I think that that's the age that she was. She could have been in her 40s. I apologize, my math is rusty at this point in my life. So she married Leonard Louis Nicholas. Lollerie. And he was 15 years younger than her. Ooh. And he was a physician. And he had actually, she had actually found him because he corrected hunchbacks. And one of her daughters was in danger of becoming a hunchback. So he had the gift of straightening that shit out. Okay. In 1831, the property at 1140 Royal Street was bought, and the Lollerie Mansion was built, and it was in Delphine's name. Like Leonard really didn't have shit to do with that.
SPEAKER_00I'm kind of slow right now, but did she wear like the braces like Forrest Gump?
SPEAKER_04I'm not really sure. I'm not 100% sure. And from what I heard about politicians in this in that time, I mean, it ain't really changed. Honestly. No. It hasn't really changed. Fuck go. But they were a
Marriages Wealth And Building The Mansion
SPEAKER_04little bit more crooked.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they had that shame. We didn't have that shit really figured out, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I mean, Louisiana wasn't but like a fresh state to the United States at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Very fresh. Very fresh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Right. Well, Delphine and Leonard, they really uh they weren't very compatible. Because in 1832, Delphine filed for separation from Leonard and claimed that he treated her. This is a quote. He treated her in such a manner as to render their living together unsupportable. Unquote. That was, you know, she did it very legally. But he would still be seen at the house from time to time by the neighbors. He wasn't completely gone, just partially. What neighbors also noticed uh was that Delphine often mistreated her enslaved people. Um and that's actually a kind word would be mistreated. She was treating them horrifically bad, unimaginably bad. But how bad she was treating her enslaved people would not get discovered for a while. Now, even though most of the rich owned enslaved people, there was still a code of ethics.
SPEAKER_00And what I'm looking at you because I have to take a second real quick. Hang on. Quit laughing. Shh, the mics are hot, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_04Well, I've looked over at you and you had this look on your face.
SPEAKER_00Lindsay doesn't partake in liquor too much.
SPEAKER_04No, I don't.
SPEAKER_00And how you're slurring and coming across this, and you're doing an amazing job. Actually, you're perfect. Actually, you nailed like 19,000 names that I could never even fucking fathom of pronunciating.
SPEAKER_04You mean Marie Louise, Louise, Marie? Yeah. And Jean.
SPEAKER_00All the Marie's and all the Laveaux and all the yeah, all the oh yeah. But like, okay, so you're drinking liquor now. And you're you're killing it, and I love it. You're on a whole different level. I'm looking across over here, ladies.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there's no cut in that glass right there. That is all liquor. And I've already downed half of it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I love this. We need to do more of this drunken history type shit like this, dude.
SPEAKER_04This is this is history.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, everything we do is history.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I think it is going to. There's hints out there right now, but I think drunken history is going to make a revival.
SPEAKER_00Well, they need to get us on there. We can do a podcast with the show.
SPEAKER_04I want him to do a tent revival with snakes and shit because I'm going to pump to it. I wouldn't.
SPEAKER_00Lindsay, you would be the perfect drunken history chick up there just slurring and fucking doing her thing, wanting to dance to fucking TV Nicks and shit. Where's my shawl? Where's my shawl?
SPEAKER_04By the way, you guys, we are. It's so crazy because Delphine Lollerie has been on my list since the dawn of this podcast. And I wanted to do it in October of 2026, okay? We just happened to start our journey on American Horror Story, and we are in the middle of Coven, which, if you know, you know, Delphine LaLerie is right in the middle of that shit. Played by I mean, it's not historically accurate, but Ryan Murphy throws you a bone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, a little bit. I mean, but I'm okay. So yeah, I'm indirectly re-ricocheting off of that because I recognize a lot of this, and I'm not supposed to, but like at the same time, I'm I'm this is different because you're going back.
SPEAKER_04And then last night's episode was when Stevie Nick showed the fuck up, and we were like, I slapped the shit out of Josie, and he's like, She almost hit my nuts.
SPEAKER_00She almost hit me in the nuts, dude. I was like, what the hell you doing, dude? I'm about half ass asleep just trying to get through this. And because I'm I'm I'm I am very interested. I love it, and I'm a little slurry too myself. Shit. But like it is really uh if you haven't checked that out, check out all that American Horror Stories yet, is really cool.
SPEAKER_04Well, Jesse, I'm sure they have. We are so behind.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Well, I'm acting like I'm new. I don't know. Shit. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04There's 13 seasons out, and we're in season three. So really, yeah.
SPEAKER_00There's 13?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Holy shit, bloodshot style.
SPEAKER_04I know. So, like I said, uh, there was a code of ethics, and if you didn't follow that code, you could actually get your enslaved people repossessed. Yeah. Uh-uh. And it said that Delphine owned over 56 enslaved people, and 20 of them had either died or gone missing under her ownership. And there are records of the people that she owned because unfortunately, enslavement was a documented trade in this time period. When after quite a few reports were made about Delphine, an investor came in and actually repossessed her enslaved people.
SPEAKER_00So, like an investigator came in? Yeah, because there were laws. I mean, you know, like I said, there was a code of ethics, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And this, okay, so she owned men, women, and children. Now, Delphine, she found a way around this. She found a loophole. She got friends and family to repurchase her repossessed enslaved people, and they just gave them back to her. Most of the enslaved people in her household seemed to be overworked and malnourished. Like she was just giving them enough food to survive. The only one that was treated well was Bastien, her coach driver. He was well taken care of and was very close with Delphine. Like it said that it's it's recorded as they were familiar.
SPEAKER_00What a fucking disgusting human being.
SPEAKER_04Oh, she's horrible. She's fucking horrible.
SPEAKER_00Shit.
SPEAKER_04One of the most famous incidents that occurred in her household was that she chased one of the young enslaved girls named Leah. She's famous in like the ghost tours to this day, okay? So she chased Leah up to the roof of the mansion with a whip. And this 12-year-old girl, she was 12 years old, fell to her death and was either buried in a shallow grave on the property or hidden in one of the wells.
SPEAKER_00Fucking hell, man. So this is became a tourist attraction.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm gonna talk more about it later on. Fuck. It's even said that if her own children would help any of the enslaved people in her house, she would beat them as well. And Ryan Murphy puts a little bit of that into Coven. You've seen where like she entrapped her daughters. Like, you know, that was that's the Hollywood part, but she literally beat the shit out of her own kids if they would help any of her enslaved people. I don't even want to call them employees because they're not really. An employee is paid.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they treated them like furniture.
SPEAKER_04Right, right, right, right. On April 10th, 1934, Delphine's 70-year-old cook, who was chained to the stove, decided that this was the day her people would be set free. And Delphine would be exposed for the monster that she was. She set a fire when the house became ablaze. The LaLoris, they got the fuck out. Or the excuse me, the La Lorese. They got the fuck out, but the neighbors they started coming out and they're like, what's going on? And uh, we gotta get your workers, your enslaved people, out of that house. And Delphine and Leonard, who was there, even though they had filed for separation, Leonard was there. They didn't
Abuse Allegations And A Legal Loophole
SPEAKER_04want anyone to get into the house. And it said that bystanders and a judge who he lived on Royal Street as well and came out and was like, There's a fire. This judge he made sure that they got in to the fucking house. They beat the doors down and they went into the Lolllery home. They went straight to where the enslaved people were kept, and seven were all in horrific conditions. They were mutilated, suspended by the neck with spiked collars. Fuck. Their limbs were stretched and torn, and one person had a head wound that was filled with maggots.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_04This is okay. So there's there's legendary, there is lore about this story, but this is what what I'm telling you is the actual first hand account. First hand account, okay? Some had been flayed with whips that had their like flesh was exposed, okay. And the whip was actually found with dried blood on it. Another, another one uh one of the enslaved people, her bones had been broken and reset so many times that she resembled a crab.
SPEAKER_00Lindsay. This is some HH home shit right here.
SPEAKER_04All of them had been starved, and they were so weak that they could barely walk. And this bitch, Delphine, she had a stool that she would stand on to look down upon her enslaved people, and she would whip these poor people to make the lashes from the whip go deeper into their flesh. And this was her morning routine before she got ready for her day of being a socialite. When you look up Madame Delphine Lollerie, that is literally listed as her occupation as a socialite.
SPEAKER_00This is a late Victorian era, right?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, and and the antebellum area.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like she's just like, oh, I'm gonna do this shit and then go out and be like all prim and proper. Fuck you, Lollerie. Fucking what the fuck ever, dude?
SPEAKER_04Like this is fucking horrible. Delphine. Well, her her her name is Maria Delphine, but yeah. So yeah, fuck. All of the surviving enslaved people were taken to the mayor's office for medical care, and the public was allowed to view their conditions, and they so they were viewed by about 4,000 people, which is pretty much the population of New Orleans at that time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, everybody wanted to come see the freak show that she's created. Well, and also like they were probably putting that out there.
SPEAKER_04They were enraged. So yeah, this this outraged the masses so much that they the people of New Orleans looted the fuck out of the Lollerie mansion. Like they were going, they were they weren't taking her shit, they were breaking her shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you get no possessions left. Nothing. We don't even want it. We're just gonna fucking.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they were trash, they trashed that shit. They weren't stealing shit that she had, they were destroying it.
SPEAKER_00Rightfully so, because this is fucked up to begin with.
SPEAKER_04They it was horrifying. Yeah. But the Lollaries, they got away. They were driven off in their carriage by Bastien, and this was not a clean getaway. Like Bastien had to whip people to get through. Like he was beating the shit out of people to let them through. I don't know if if y'all have listened to any previous episodes, y'all know that I am a big fan of the last podcast on the left podcast. And they describe him as Samuel L. Jackson's character in um in Django Until Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained, they said that that was what Bastien was like. Like he was the snitch of all the unruly enslaved people, and he was he was making sure the Lollarese guy.
SPEAKER_00He was their ride or die. He was their ride or die. They should have worked the fucking roots on her fucking ass to begin with.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Burnt that motherfucker down, like interview with a vampire.
SPEAKER_04They're going to. So uh the anger and the carnage of the New Orleans people, they it lasted for a few days. And then the Lollary carriage, it came back, but it was empty. And the townspeople destroyed this carriage, like they were still fucking mad. So the carriage itself came back just came back with the horses, with the empty, and they fucking they killed the horses.
SPEAKER_00How mad yeah, exactly. The people were so if you can imagine that's how angry the white folk were. Right.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like not the oppressed, the white enslaved other people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the people that actually owned other enslaved people. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00This is a huge fucking eye-opening fucking experience because this is just one little part of this is documented. There's so much fucking horrific.
SPEAKER_04Well, she's, I mean, literally recorded as one of the most evil people on the earth. Yeah. On the planet.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's been everywhere, though. I mean, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_04Now, there is a lot of there's a lot more that has been exaggerated over the years. Like, it's even been said that there were people buried under her floorboards that were that like the the law enforcement didn't know were there until later on. I don't know if all of that's true, but what I've just said to you right now is you know, no, it is true.
The Fire That Exposed The Attic
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm just saying, like, so these were things that were documented by the judge and things like that. Yeah. It's terrible. Well, Delphine, uh, she got away and fucked off to Paris. Now the mob was finally broken up by the police in New Orleans, but the house was torn to pieces. And the original, the original structure did not survive. Now, Jesse and I saw the surviving structure, but I looked back in all of our pictures from New Orleans, and I didn't take a picture of it, but we walked down the entirety of Royal Street.
SPEAKER_00I know for a fact you did take pictures of it. I know.
SPEAKER_04But I can't find them.
SPEAKER_00It's like the fucking ghost buggy and horse, man. It just came, it just left. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Well, the structure of the the mansion was later rebuilt by Pierre Tractor in 1980. Or I want to say, is it tractor? Something like that. So it was rebuilt in 1838, and that structure is the building that still stands today.
SPEAKER_00As resemblance of, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Right. Now it has been a public high school. It has been used as a music conservatory, it has been a refuge for young delinquents, it has been apartments, a furniture store, and then a luxury apartment building before it became a privately owned residence by Nicolas Cage. And after it was foreclosed because of Nick's poor, or not poor, but Nick's uh shitty manager that got his shit for I mean all his shit foreclosed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It was purchased by its current owner, which is Michael Whalen. Now, let's go back just a little bit. When it was a furniture store, it was said that some of the furniture, like they would get the furniture in, right? And get it on the floor, get it ready to resale, that it would be destroyed the next day. Like pissed on, scratched up by otherworldly people from the early 1800s. Yes. When it was a bar, it was actually called the haunted saloon. Like the guy that owned that owned the building when it was a saloon, when it was a bar, he leaned into the haunted factor of it, and it was successful for a while. Okay. Now, when Nick Cage owned it, he never slept over in this building, okay? Because he owned three uh, I'm sorry. So he owned a total of three houses in New Orleans, the Lollarie Mansion being one of them, Ann Rice's house being one of them, and I'm not sure about the other one. I think it was a church, it was an old abandoned church. I'm not 100% sure on that. Simple Google research.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was appropriating like historical buildings.
SPEAKER_04Yes, he had always been a big fan of shit in New Orleans, okay? But when he owned the Lollerie mansion, he would have nightmares. Shit like that would happen to him. And when he spoke to a medium about this, the medium told him that he needed to purchase a grave site near I'm I'm looking at you because I want you to answer this.
SPEAKER_00The cemetery that we went to?
SPEAKER_04No, not the cemetery that we went to, but where Marie Laveau is buried, which is St. Louis number one. Um, so he did. To this day, Nicolas Cage owns a prepaid grave site, which is a pyramid, and it's as close to Marie Laveau's grave as he could get.
SPEAKER_00What the fuck? Working some fucking roots type shit.
SPEAKER_04The IRS couldn't repossess that because it's a grave site.
SPEAKER_00So it's there forever.
SPEAKER_04He owns and it wasn't even his fault. He got a shitty manager, and I really feel bad for him because he didn't plan on any of that happening. Like he loved New Orleans, he owned three properties there, and we passed by one, which is Ann Rice's house, like fucking hell.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. There was just so much, just so much history that's piled into one little area that I was just like, fuck, dude. Left, right, whatever houses you want to look at, there's history. It's it's wild.
SPEAKER_04Right. Well, I mean, he got, I mean, all of them are repossessed. And one of the schools was actually only for black girls, black females. It was an all black female school. And like when they some of the girls would go to their, you know, their superiors or whatever, or the schoolmasters or whatever, and say they were being like scratched up and shit, and they would say, that woman did it. Okay. Fuck. But here's where that's weird, okay. The legend of Delphine LaLerie's torture to her enslaved people has grown and been exaggerated over the years, but the true story is horrific enough. And of course, the mansion is part of the many ghost horrors that you can be a part of in New Orleans because it is said to be severely haunted by the enslaved people who perished under Delphine's ownership and Delphine herself. Even though it is most likely that she died in Paris at the age of 62. But now here's what's weird her body is said to be in the St. Louis Cemetery, number one.
SPEAKER_00Like they never left.
SPEAKER_04Well, no, she definitely left. But her body, but she may have come back.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Yes. So they moved in her desk. Maybe.
SPEAKER_04Right. Wow. And like I said, who else is there but Marie Laveau? And that I think that's why Ryan Murphy like put the both of them together in that series. Yeah. Because it is. Yeah, I get it. What I've what I have okay, so after okay, so we have literally talked about many of the actual. True crimes that Ryan Murphy has made into a series, okay. What I have noticed that he does is he takes the rumors and the legends and builds off the stories of that, which I can appreciate because that's Hollywood. Right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I can appreciate that. And like and and and meshing Marie Laveau and Delphine Lallerie together in one
Mob Justice And The Escape To Paris
SPEAKER_04story because fuck yeah. They're literally in the same graveyard.
SPEAKER_00He's covering more ground that way. Right. He's just like, I want to wrap up some history, even if it's not correct, but it's still history.
SPEAKER_04Right, right, right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00The uh identity of history and his own twist into it is his creativity. And I get it, you know? There is a lot. Like, I feel like New Orleans is way farther beyond that we do in St. Augustine, because we do like the ghost engraved the Ghost Engravestones tour and stuff where we go to the old jail and we go around St. Augustine. We need to do one of those in New Orleans because like that would be fun.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but I love how organic our little venture was when we went to New Orleans.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like we literally just walked out of our hotel room. That was the difference right there.
SPEAKER_04And we just started walking.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And we found this woman who was coming out of a graveyard tour and was going into a garden district tour, which is all I really wanted to do. Was it not? No, and it was just like that was all I wanted to do and see in New Orleans was the garden district.
SPEAKER_00And we look over, and there's where they made banana fosters. Bananas fosters. Yeah. And I was like, what is this building?
SPEAKER_04And she's It's my favorite dessert on this fucking planet.
SPEAKER_00And she told us it was just like there it's it was created right fucking there. And that's that's real.
SPEAKER_04That's I mean, she showed us she showed us Sandra Bullock's house, the properties owned by Nick Cage. She showed us Trent Reznor's old house, which was owned by John Goodman. Goodman. Yes. Oh my god. I blinked out. I'm drinking liquor instead of you guys.
SPEAKER_00But you know, so I watched being linked to it.
SPEAKER_04I watched an interview with him. He has now sold that property as well. So we don't know who it's owned.
SPEAKER_00I think that a lot of people that actually come into New Orleans and think that it's attractive always have to dip the fuck out because there is some creepy ass shit, dude.
SPEAKER_04But guess who fucking vibed in New Orleans?
unknownMe.
SPEAKER_00So Yeah, but we're ain't owning shit there.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so it if this is your first time listening, if you don't know me personally, I am an anxiety-ridden motherfucker, okay? But if you take me to a haunted ass town, I am absolutely comfortable and at home. And I can't, I cannot understand it for the life of me. Cannot understand it.
SPEAKER_00Sigh from Gettysburg.
SPEAKER_04No, I was I still live in Gettysburg.
SPEAKER_00Walking on the battlefield was like, we are fucking feeling this right now.
SPEAKER_04Jesse and I frequent St. Augustine all the time.
SPEAKER_00All the time.
SPEAKER_04Loved Key West, fucking cried entering the bridge in New Orleans because I felt like I was coming home. And I I didn't even know half of this shit when we got there. No. I didn't. All I knew was the fucking VC Andrew series about Ruby. Like, but I had always I had uh going to New Orleans was a bucket list item for me, and now
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SPEAKER_04that was 12 years ago.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it's calling you still.
SPEAKER_04It is still calling me. Like I I literally want to go back to tomorrow. And I loved, I mean, we didn't stay in Boston, but we drove through it and then Fall River.
SPEAKER_00Boston calls me, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm Fall River. I felt like I was at home.
SPEAKER_00Philly kind of calls me, and I'm like, fuck off, Philly, because we just talked about a fucked up podcast.
SPEAKER_04The police department in Philly can fuck off, okay?
SPEAKER_00But Philly itself is something, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But what I'm saying is like these haunted ass towns that we go to, I fucking love them. This shit though, right here, Delphine La Lerie is a fucking piece of shit. And I actually have about three, I want to say three more stories for New Orleans that are fucking horrific, and one as recent as Katrina for this season. So we're we'll be coming back.
SPEAKER_00But a lot of like the backstory and what people create and actually.
SPEAKER_04But I love New Orleans and I can't wait to go back.
SPEAKER_00You know, behind all of this is is not a drop in the bucket, honestly, compared to the full spectrum of what really fucking happened. You know, the the things that we don't know. Like this is I mean, and then putting people in this situation and her having her dominance over like human beings and then controlling them and then getting off on that is fucking deeply horrific.
SPEAKER_04A lot of people want to know why the fuck Delphine was the way she was. Okay, so first of all, she was raised by people who were enslaved people owners, okay? So she was raised already, seeing her family treat these people like they were not people. And then she sees her uncle be killed by the by the enslaved people because they were revolting, because absolutely they were just trying to be let go of this horrific torture that they were going through in life. Then she also witnessed several family members, male family members, have children with in female enslaved people. And that angered her because now this was a mixed race. Like this, this is I mean, it it kind of started around that time period.
SPEAKER_00And they would use religion against that. Oh, yeah. They would think it was unproof and the false imprisonment of like.
SPEAKER_04Well, that went on until I was a child. Like I was raised, like I said in a few podcasts back, like I was raised thinking that it was sin.
SPEAKER_00We're all part of the same tribe. Exactly. You got it twisted, like I can't.
SPEAKER_04And I'm not making excuses for Delphine whatsoever. There is no excuse. But this was the environment that she was raised in, and this infuriated her that these men, you know, they were committing adultery with the women that they were married to, with enslaved women and having children with them. And these children were uh endangering their bloodline and the bloodline. And yeah, so this created this monster within her.
SPEAKER_00It's super fun. To where she was, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So, you know, like I said, the cook started this fire, and when they came in, the fire marshal or uh the the fire department. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00The chief, the chief.
SPEAKER_04So when they come in and they ask this cook what's going on, she literally pointed to upstairs, and that was where she knew that the enslaved people that she was no longer seeing anymore, that's where they were going and she never saw them again because those were the ones that Delphine was up there, was keeping up there and torturing in her fucking little playhouse. In her little playhouse. And they say that the roof of this mansion is the most haunted part of this mansion. Because you can't just go in, it's not part, okay. So you drive by this mansion and they tell you the story, but you can't go in because it is a private residence. But the owner has had parties, and the people that have attended these parties have went to parts of this house, and the energy, the thick energy, is on the roof of this house.
SPEAKER_00That has been re-restructured.
SPEAKER_04I mean, there's still like in the haunted energy of this house. Because not only did Leah die, but she, you know, she fell to her death up there, but that is the closest part to where the enslaved people that were tortured, that's where they were kept. So that is the most haunted part of that mansion.
SPEAKER_00Right. So is the roof in a spectral type fucking situation where like something's still hanging on to unfinished business. Maybe it's just a geographical.
SPEAKER_04The unfinished business is they want to fucking murder Delphine. Exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And fuck up the furniture from the bigger.
SPEAKER_04Because that bitch got away with it.
SPEAKER_00Fuck.
SPEAKER_04She got away with it. So she was actually brought in. She was brought in after Leah died, and she was only fined, Jesse. She was fined. That was it. She was given a fine. And then, you know, the more reports she got, she got those people repossessed. She found she got family and friends to to repurchase these enslaved people, bring them back to her home so she could turn torture them further. And Delphine, La Lerie, is one of the biggest monsters that has ever roamed this earth. Yeah. She was still one of the most beautiful people in town. In New Orleans.
SPEAKER_00That don't matter.
SPEAKER_04That's just don't matter.
SPEAKER_00Evil in a pretty ass fucking outfit.
SPEAKER_04Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you have an ugly soul, you're not gonna be beautiful on the outside.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, not by any means. It's like mermayman and barnacle boy. There's fucking evil afoot.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, there is evil afoot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. My fucking, where is my invisible boatmobile? Dude.
SPEAKER_04I am almost done with my second martini.
SPEAKER_00So it really all boils down to like we needed SpongeBob and fucking Patrick and Mermayman and Barnacle Boy to come fucking see what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it was a port town. They could be Bikini Bottom could be right outside of New Orleans.
SPEAKER_00They just pulled right the fuck up and be like, Where the fuck were they at? Yes. Yes. We're gonna make this shit happen, dude. If we would have had fucking SpongeBob out there fucking jellyfishing, this shit wouldn't have happened, dude. Wouldn't have happened. And Sandy Cheeks.
SPEAKER_04But fuck Delphine Delallerie.
SPEAKER_00Fuck that bitch.
SPEAKER_04And actually fuck all of her husbands because they were all evil in their own way as well. Her ch her surviving children, most of them had to change their name and live in hiding. And uh the ones
Why She Became A Monster
SPEAKER_04that could not escape her name, they weren't shit later on.
SPEAKER_00You know, but um just we're having fun here.
SPEAKER_04This is the game of the mornings, you guys. The food is excellent, the music is excellent, the art is excellent. Find this lady that does the garden district tour because she's awesome.
SPEAKER_00Don't be a tourist, be a traveler.
SPEAKER_04Be a traveler. Just just go out and find this woman. Oh, it's great to be able to do that. So it was Lafayette Cemetery number one about five o'clock, and she's gonna start the garden district tour. But Jesse, I'm so done with this fucking bitch. Can you please play us an amazing band?
SPEAKER_00Please. Yes, I am going to my motherland of Norway. The motherlands. This band is called Glasgow Kiss, and they're from Eclipse Records. This song is called Down in Flames.
SPEAKER_04You know, I find it so crazy.
Band Spotlight And How To Support
SPEAKER_04I want to say ninety seven percent of the time, your songs really resonate with what we're talking about because that cook set that fire.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I didn't know, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Saved the lives of her people.
SPEAKER_00They all went down in flames in that house.
SPEAKER_04And if it hadn't been put out, they would have all gone down in flames. That's just fucking crazy to me. I got chills, and that band is awesome. And so they Glasgow Kiss is a female-fronted alternative metal band from Norway. Their new bo new album is Down in Flames. And it is, of course, via Eclipse Records. And you can follow them at Glasgow Kiss on Instagram. So good. So good. I know it's just so crazy to me how sometimes your band just lines up with what I've got to tell because we do not share each other's information whatsoever.
SPEAKER_00No, that's the fucking fun part of all this. It is.
SPEAKER_04It is really crazy how it just lines up. But while you're following Glasgow Kiss, if you're new here, follow us. Uh our main website is drinkaboutsomething.sight. We're on Instagram at drinkabout something. You can send us an email at drinkaboutsomethingpod at gmail.com. Where are we on YouTube? Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00I keep saying that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00I want to get the fuck off here. Lindsay is sloshed, and I'm fucking loving it. I'm gonna have a great day.
SPEAKER_04We're gonna go watch some horror movies. Uh we're in our we're in October, and we're gonna go to our die hard October month, which is pretty much Stephen King movies.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And we're also, like I said, we're on our American horror story journey. And listen, you guys, next week we got a really good Halloween story for you guys. It's not really good, it's really fucking horrible, but it'll set the tone for Halloween.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what's up. And I got something new that's coming up, too, on our way down to uh an amazing adventure that is just fabulous. Actually, we just did the adventure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we did the adventure, so yeah, we're in the past, present, and future all at the same time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Marty McFly and the whole flying fucking Tesla car and all the bullshit that just happened this week. Fuck. It's wild. Billionaires and their toys, right? Yes. Shit. I just want to look back and just be like, I wish I could afford that, but I'll never be able to, you know.
SPEAKER_04But Jesse and I's cups are empty. We got a refill. We're gonna watch the shiny, or we're gonna finish Christine and then we're gonna watch the shiny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Christine is right at the spot where the shitters are coming out.
SPEAKER_04Yes, and we've got an adventure coming up, and then we're coming up on Halloween, you guys. Halloween will be one week from this episode's debut.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And we're excited because we fucking love Halloween. This is our time.
SPEAKER_03And we're living it up at the very good talk show. Talking about Halloween. Talking about true crime. Um all of our obsessions. I can't even say that on here.
SPEAKER_04Oh God, we have been we're fucking stupid. We're childless tonight, and we don't know what to do with ourselves. So we've just been drinking.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's what we do on the weekends. Hope you guys are having a fabulous weekend. I want to say we love you so much. Bye.
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